Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 203

Originally Posted by moonhawk 

Are you set to bitstream, or LPCM? I have very little success with bitstream, and occasional delays --Handshaking?--with LPCM into my Bryston SP3.

Originally Posted by Maestro J 

Quick question regarding the 103...
I was an initial purchaser of an 83 which is slowly dying

so I'd like to purchase the 103. I like that it has 4k pass-thru for future proofing.

Originally Posted by Willie 

I am getting drop outs and some stuttering when playing 3D ISOs from my Synology Rackstation. I was able to watch the first 25 minutes of Avengers just fine, then the stuttering kicked in. Subsequent to that any 3D title stutters and drops the audio. I have the audio set to LPCM. FWIW, 2D mkv plays perfectly. Video chain is Oppo>Denon 4311ci>Lumagen>Projector. Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,

Willie

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

I haven't paid much attention to 4k but I thought this was for upscaling only by the player, that is does not read 4k content. Would that apply to the HDMI inputs as well?
-Bill

Originally Posted by darkphader 

The manual lists no such capability to accept nor pass-thru 4k. It is only an HDMI output option.

Originally Posted by Bob Fosse 

I just ordered the 103 to replace my 83 and bring down the 83 to our vacation home. I read the reivews and I came to the conclusion that the 103 would be at least as good as my 83 with DVDs. I did not check the 103 owner's thread or see your post before ordering.

Since DVD PQ is still important to me I am now wondering if I should cancel my order for the 103 before it ships? I am not into streaming video and have a dedicated 2 Chanel system for music so the 83 serves me well on both DVD and BD with my 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite plasma TV.

I have not had time to check out all the comments and findings here on AVS regarding DVD PQ regarding these two players. Any input would be most appreciated by anyone that have owned both of them with regards to DVD PQ.

Thanks and appreciated.
Bob

Originally Posted by Frenshprince 

I'm glad to finally read that.

I've always been bothered with 93 and 103 sharpness details.
No matter what, with sharpness at 0 (or source direct), picture was always less sharp than my other bluray players, and masters.

I managed a studio mastering for Bluray and TV, so my eyes are quite hypercritical.
I've made a lot of comparisons A/B/X with other players, and the Oppo 93 and 103 were always the less accurate (for sharpness).

So now there is an explanation.
Thanks for that

Originally Posted by turboman123 

AV Receiver to match BDP-103

I got a BDP-103 since about a month ago. Since then I have been looking for an AV Receiver to match the BDP-103.

So I considered an AV Receiver to be in the same price range as the BDP-103.
A visual match was also important, and due to space constraint, I definitively wanted a slimline receiver. And that is where the problem starts, because there are not that many slimline receivers around.
I considered the Pioneer VSX-S300/500, but I was told by shops in Hong Kong (where I live) that these models were discontinued. They are still available in Europe and North America.
l considered a Cambridge Audio Azur 551R , but dropped the idea due to price.
Then I looked at Marantz NR1403/1603, but visually they don't match the Oppo that well.

By accident, I saw a new entry model from Cambridge Audio, the Azur 351R. And that was a perfect match for the Oppo BDP-103. Or the Oppo a match for the Azur. Whatever.
I bought the Azur and I am now installing it.

Judge for yourself:
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Higher resolution picture:
Oppo BDP-103 & Azur351R.JPG 1440k .JPG file

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

I agree that the 83 and old 983 DVD players, which had the ABT chip handled upscaling SD-DVDs better. I did side by side tests on DVDs I had been involved
in mastering, and the ABT based players produced an image that was closer to the original master than the 103, using either HDMI 1 with the QEDO chip, or
the HDMI 2, which bypasses it..

Originally Posted by giedrys 

To me it's not just DVDs. Same can be said signal processing from HD cable box via HDMI input. If my 3 years old Denon 3310ci receiver with ABT 2010 chip can produce same results, why are they bragging so much about 103's video processing powers?

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

I've had both and the DVD image on the -103 looks fine to me. With HDMI1 & 2 you have your choice of QDEO vs Mediatek processing.

That said, I still have an old 983H DVD player and I still appreciate its DVD quality above all.

Calibration of your display is going to matter more than these input choices.

-Bill

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

I agree that the 83 and old 983 DVD players, which had the ABT chip handled upscaling SD-DVDs better. I did side by side tests on DVDs I had been involved
in mastering, and the ABT based players produced an image that was closer to the original master than the 103, using either HDMI 1 with the QEDO chip, or
the HDMI 2, which bypasses it.

That said, it was not a dramatic difference, And it wasn't that the images on the 103 weren't pleasing. But it was enough that I've kept my older Oppos for all my SD-DVD watching.
(I also have a 60" Kuro)

As far as BR the 83 and 103 are indeed very similar. I haven't had the time to do the same kind of testing, but I think I slightly prefer the BR PQ on the 83. To my
eye (and there are some others here who decidedly don't see the same thing) the HDMI 1 out on the 103 currently has an oddness where the sharpness set at 0 produces
an image that seems the tiniest bit soft, but raising the setting to sharpness +1 produces an image that looks a tiny bit processed. Using HDMI 2 seems to split the
difference, but there are subtle color shifts.

However, unlike the SD-DVD difference, it is so subtle that I fully enjoy watching BR on the 103, and have kept it for that purpose, as well as for the streaming and
other features. But I find that if I'm going to closely watch a favorite film, I find myself putting it in the 83.

Just one opinion, but I hope that helps.

Originally Posted by KJSmitty 

Most definitely. Via analog or digital out.

I utilize HDMI 2 for audio on my 93 but went analog out for my 103 instal due to using an older yet great sounding Yamaha flagship receiver. No complaints.!

Have you owned any OPPOs previously?

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

Are you using the latest firmware? Check Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information. Your "Main" firmware version number should end 1211.

For the issue with 3D and audio try setting Blank HDMI 2 in the 3D Settings (latest firmware).
--Bob

Originally Posted by Bob Fosse 

. . . .

One more question. Is the MHL input on the 103 compatible with Apple iPhones and iPads? It does not appear so from what I have read.

Thanks,

Bob

Originally Posted by Dick Laurent 

Just to update on my audio sync issue, OPPO has again proven their stellar customer service, even via email. They sent quite a bit of detailed info and links to help out. I finally decided to just go ahead and adjust the sync for the OPPO source into my Onkyo. I had to get it all the way up to 165ms to see the best results with my test material, but it seems to be working just fine like that. As long as this is a relatively normal setting to adjust the sync on a single device, then I will call it good. Just seems odd as I've never had to do that before.

I could have sworn that everything I played up until noticing the issue was not out of sync. But I suppose I was paying closer attention to color and black levels than the actual dialogue. I can admit I was wrong in my assumption.

Thanks again for all the help.

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau 

Yes and No. If you use Apple's HDMI video output adapter cable for the iPhone or iPad you can send audio and video from them into the 103/105. This works on both the Front and Rear HDMI Inputs. (I've been testing this using an iPhone 5 and Apple's Lightning to HDMI cable. You can get up to 1080p YCbCr 4:4:4 and up to DD 5.1 audio.)

However, the adapter will not take power from the MHL portion of the Front HDMI Input to charge the iPhone/iPad. (The Apple adapter does have a 2nd port you can use to attach Apple's USB to Lighting charger cable to keep the unit charged while in use this way. Use an external power source -- i.e., not the USB socket on the player.)

The HDMI/MHL input also can NOT be used to access files on the iPhone/iPad as if it were a hard drive.
--Bob

Originally Posted by kamiraa 

For those who have come from the BDP-93, I have looked at the differences and have a real question. Was it worth the upgrade (hdmi only, no analog).

I bought a BDP-93 about a month back (last one they had on the shelf new). I didn't realize the BDP-103 was out.

I can still return it basically, and upgrade a few dollars difference in price to the 103. But wanted to see what AVS folks thought.

I have 4k upscaling in my Denon AVR-4520ci.

I noticed they dropped the memory for streaming (1GB to 512MB), and I do a lot of MKV streaming from my NAS, so that feature is important.

So what advice can people give me

Originally Posted by ss3740 

Last night we watched Blu Ray of Argo. Both the top and bottom are Blacked out .You can not adjust it to full screen. The aspect/Full/Just ect is void from being used. Why??? I have it run thru a 4520 and a Panny VT55.If it is the disc being made that way, again I ask Why?

Originally Posted by ss3740 

Last night we watched Blu Ray of Argo. Both the top and bottom are Blacked out .You can not adjust it to full screen. The aspect/Full/Just ect is void from being used. Why??? I have it run thru a 4520 and a Panny VT55.If it is the disc being made that way, again I ask Why?

Originally Posted by KJSmitty 

The 93 "does not" implement Cinavia code/detection thus any/all MKV structures will play. The 103 "does" implement Cinavia.

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

ARGO is scope aspect ratio: 2.35:1. Why? The director wanted it that way.

Your screen is 1.77:1 (=16.9). When displaying the first on the second you will have black bars. It could not be otherwise.

The ZOOM control on the player might be useful in stretching or trimming the image the eliminate the bars, but it does not work on all Blu-ray titles at this time.

Does your TV have some sort of zoom control?

Else: watch the movie as it was intended.

-Bill

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

Oppo is acknowledging there is some NR on at all times with HDMI 1, and that in turn means the signal is at least slightly processed. Whether you like it, or it bothers you is more an 'art' decision than a 'science' one. Their feeling is that it should be so minor you won't notice it on shiny discs, but I'm not sure my eyes agree.

The way I read it, they're saying 'this level of NR looks the way we want it to'. But whether you agree with their taste or prefer the slightly different unprocessed look of HDMI 2, or even the somewhat artificially sharpened look of +1 is personal, not right and wrong.

To my eye, certainly, for example on SD-DVD discs, there is a notable difference between HDMI 1 and 2 with both at 0. It affects both sharpness and contrast. On discs I've helped master, HDMI 2 actually looks closer to the master, while HDMI 1 has slightly more 'pop', but slightly less fine detail. HDMI 1 is a more eye catching picture, but a less 'accurate' one. (And ironically, on SD-DVD, to me both options trail the old ABT chip results on the 83 and 983.)

But it does sound clear that the way oppo has implemented the QEDO chip is intentional and not a bug.

Originally Posted by AndrewFG 

=> Can I suggest (request) that Oppo should modify their menu structure