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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post


The masking around movie theatre screens is to neatly box in the light, not cover up what may be displayed in that area. (Wasn’t sure if this also is what you were meaning, but thought I’d throw in a bit extra for AVSF viewing pleasure...)
Yes it was.
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The only time I would use the OPPO for zoom is just to compensate for non-widescreen enhanced DVDs (which really should all have been recalled by now, right?) biggrin.gif
We run into them once in a great while. I just leave the black bars all around on our 60" screen. When we had a 50" screen I would zoom.

"The King and I" knocked my socks off with the opening credits way back long ago. That was like the opening to Star Wars when we took our little boy all the way to San Francisco to see it. Now he is 42 and very hard to impress. smile.gif
post #6182 of 16387
I finally installed the OPPO BD Android app on my phone. I'm really impressed. Not sure how practical it is to use in combination with the Harmony, but it's a heck of a lot of fun. The response time/accuracy is spot-on. Anyone see an advantage to using the app other than it being pretty and entertaining?
post #6183 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

I finally installed the OPPO BD Android app on my phone. I'm really impressed. Not sure how practical it is to use in combination with the Harmony, but it's a heck of a lot of fun. The response time/accuracy is spot-on. Anyone see an advantage to using the app other than it being pretty and entertaining?

I was actually a little disappointed with the app when it turned out to be nothing more than a digital recreation of the remote. As an app, it opens up the possibilities of having predefined and user-defined macros and viewing menus on the phone without having to view it on the device. It would be much easier to see changes in PQ by changing color options and depth through an app rather than jumping between set-up screen and the movie - you can see the change immediately. Also, while I know you can pair your phone to YouTube, I think they should have included an actual keyboard in the app for typing in user details for SMB shares, YouTube, Netflix, and Vudu (though I don't use the latter two as I live outside the US, so maybe they already have an equivalent form of pairing).

 

I know that OPPO is working on the media player app, which I'm super excited for, but I hope they'll return to the BD app and consider some of these options (or maybe open up their API for other programmers to make their own remote control apps).

post #6184 of 16387
I have had such a problem keeping a decent blu-ray player! I bought 3 consecutive PS3s over the last 6 years, all of which failed (#1 YLOD, #2 YLOD, and #3 just refuses to boot blu-ray discs any more.) Six weeks ago, I bought a Sony BDP S-590, and it is suddenly refusing to play half of my blu-ray collection. It's been too long to return the unit to the store, and the shipping cost if I want to do the warranty is half the cost of the player...and with the awesome quality already demonstrated, how long until it breaks down again? frown.gif


Happy to say that I am putting that all behind me now, as I just bought a BDP-103 on Amazon. I will never use anything other than the blu-ray and DVD playback, but if you look at the money I spent on the past 4 players, it adds up to $1600, and right now I STILL have no working player to show for it. Kind of puts the $499 price of the Oppo in perspective. What sold me on this unit more than anything else were the build quality and the reputation of Oppo's customer service. It's highly unlikely that my unit will crap out anytime soon, but if it does, I will actually be dealing with a company that gives a crap. All the great reviews about the excellent PQ and how well it upscales DVDs are just icing on the cake to me. I have already removed the broken S-590 and I await the arrival of the Oppo on Tuesday.


Please work, please work, please work...

Edited by Nicodimus22 - 3/2/13 at 12:52am
post #6185 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Nicodimus22 View Post

I have had such a problem keeping a decent blu-ray player! I bought 3 consecutive PS3s over the last 6 years, all of which failed (#1 YLOD, #2 YLOD, and #3 just refuses to boot blu-ray discs any more.) Six weeks ago, I bought a Sony BDP S-590, and it is suddenly refusing to play half of my blu-ray collection. It's been too long to return the unit to the store, and the shipping cost if I want to do the warranty is half the cost of the player...and with the awesome quality already demonstrated, how long until it breaks down again? frown.gif


Happy to say that I am putting that all behind me now, as I just bought a BDP-103 on Amazon. I will never use anything other than the blu-ray and DVD playback, but if you look at the money I spent on the past 4 players, it adds up to $1600, and right now I STILL have no working player to show for it. Kind of puts the $499 price of the Oppo in perspective. What sold me on this unit more than anything else were the build quality and the reputation of Oppo's customer service. It's highly unlikely that my unit will crap out anytime soon, but if it does, I will actually be dealing with a company that gives a crap. All the great reviews about the excellent PQ and how well it upscales DVDs are just icing on the cake to me. I have already removed the broken S-590 and I await the arrival of the Oppo on Tuesday.


Please work, please work, please work...

I went through a few players as well before getting the oppo 83 and then the 93. I sold the 83 and kept the 93. been working like a champ.

Jacob
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Since I purchased my 103 a month ago,I've doubled my Blu-ray collection to 750 of them,and stopped doing Torrents of movies.Though the media player on the Oppo 103 is one of the best for playing back "ANY" type of movie files,I've gone 98% legit eek.gif…Amazon and my local pawnshops have been seeing me almost every day biggrin.gif to buy 15-20 Blu-rays.I have to say I've had "ZERO"problems with my 103 connected to my Denon 4311CI,then to my VT50…THIS IS THE BEST BLU-RAY PLAYER I"VE EVER PURCHASED……sorry for screaming ,I'm just so happy smile.gif
Edited by Ricker62 - 3/2/13 at 1:43am
post #6187 of 16387
Hooked up my player and in short I am impressed. Well worth the money for what you get. See my full review at http://audiophile-musings.blogspot.com

Now a word about the BlackArmor NAS 220: it has the same issue as do other folks. This combination just does not work (ie, Seagate's implementation of miniDLNA). I have been staring at the "loading" icon now for about 10 minutes and the only way out of this is to power down the OPPO.

A good addition to this thread (or a new thread) would be this:
What NAS works with your OPPO?

Having a proven list of working solutions is valuable information for all OPPO owners and removes the doubt from manufacturer's claims.
post #6188 of 16387
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Originally Posted by inline_phil View Post

A good addition to this thread (or a new thread) would be this:
What NAS works with your OPPO?

Having a proven list of working solutions is valuable information for all OPPO owners and removes the doubt from manufacturer's claims.

Welcome to AVSForum.

The FAQ section on DLNA servers people have reported using includes NAS: What are some DLNA servers?

-Bill
post #6189 of 16387
What exactly will the media player app do? iPhone and iPad user here.
post #6190 of 16387
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Originally Posted by inline_phil View Post

A good addition to this thread (or a new thread) would be this:
What NAS works with your OPPO?

Having a proven list of working solutions is valuable information for all OPPO owners and removes the doubt from manufacturer's claims.
I'm currently running a Synology DS212+ NAS with DSM (DiskStation Manager) 4.1-2668 with 1No 1TB (EXT4 formatted) internal HDD and 1No 1TB (NTFS formatted) external USB3 HDD.

I can confirm that the Oppo can access both HDD's perfectly via SMB and UPnP wink.gif
post #6191 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

I was a head projectionist (back when those prominently existed still) and manager for a couple Regal Cinemas in the mid-90s. For all of my theatres the screen masking was moveable and mechanical, with the cue to open or close the masking being a metal tape that was placed onto the sprocket holes on one side of the 35mm film. When that part of the film would hit a particular section of the projector, the lens would automagically be switched from 1.85 (FLAT) to 2.35 (SCOPE), and the masking opened to match. This really only needed to be done when all you had to splice on the head were FLAT trailers (as opposed to SCOPE). But at any time, FLAT or SCOPE, if a projector was off-quilter, or there was simply bleed-over into the masking area, there would be very noticeable light over the top of the masking.

The masking around movie theatre screens is to neatly box in the light, not cover up what may be displayed in that area. (Wasn’t sure if this also is what you were meaning, but thought I’d throw in a bit extra for AVSF viewing pleasure...)

Me personally, I've watched Jaws letterboxed on an old 13" b&w TV. I much prefer ME to suffer then the movie, so I can completely agree with your points in regards to widescreen. The only time I would use the OPPO for zoom is just to compensate for non-widescreen enhanced DVDs (which really should all have been recalled by now, right?) biggrin.gif

Too bad there aren't consummate professionals like yourself still working. I have one Regal Theater that shows ALL their films letter boxed (even flat films had black bars.). I asked the manager (a young women who obviously had no clue) and she said they had to mask the films by hand after setting them up and since she didn't have enough help they don't take the time to do. Besides, she said the majority of people don't even notice. Told her I can just stay home and watch a blu-ray with black bars on scope films. Sent an email to their corporate headquarters and did get four free passes and about a month later to a chance and lo and behold the masking problem had been fixed. Sorry to be off topic a bit but times like that make me appreciate my 103 and home theater experience even more.
post #6192 of 16387
Hi there,

After a lot of test, I found two issues on this player.

1) 720p24 files are not played at their framerate, but are converted to 720p60, or 1080p60.
Disapointing, since it works perfectly on the bdp93 (1080p24).
Oppo is aware of that, and could fix this with a firmware, but no promise.

2) HDMI inputs doesnt play correctly 23.976 source.
Signal is played at 24hz, wich bring some judder.
I sent a mail about this to oppo yesterday.
post #6193 of 16387
I currenty am running my direct tv dvr, blue ray, pc , and xbox to my onkyo reciever then one hdmi to my benq w1070. I am in the market for a 3d blu ray player and i am wondering if i put the oppo 103 between the onkyo and the w1070 will the oppo convert 2d to 3d for all sources?
Thanks in advance
post #6194 of 16387
Is anyone else like me anxiously awaiting a Firmware update? I don't even know what I expect. Here is a wishlist:


Sharpness at 0 = Current sharpness at 0.5 or even 0.25
HDMI Input Stability increase
Allow navigation of music folders with WAV files to read jpg image within folder as opposed to what Gracenote decides
Ability to edit Gracenote results and/or embed text files in folders with Genre/Year etc (Yes, I use Wav........No I don't want to use Flac)
YouTube app improvements
Lip Synch improvements


Finally, has anyone else noticed (I just did), that the player will eventually stop playing songs from a folder (Attached USB) sequentially? I don't mean shuffling I mean, it plays one track only then will not just start playing the next track in the folder without manually selecting. I turned off/on, did not fix it.......I unplugged the unit, that DID fix it......Anyone else see this one?
post #6195 of 16387
Trying to balance convenience, picture quality and a little spouse friendly thoughtfulness with my OPPO 103 and other video sources, running through an Onkyo 709 AVR. I currently have the OPPO running HDMI 1 out to the TV and HDMI 2 running to the receiver to process the audio.

I recently hooked up my cablebox (SciAtl 8300HD) into the OPPO input, and I do like the resulting PQ quite a bit, but having to switch inputs on the OPPO remote isn't exactly considerate when the GF just wants to sit down and watch TV.

The receiver has a Marvell Qdeo processor, but I'm unclear about the differences between it and the Marvell Kyoto-G2H video processor in the OPPO 103. From a simplicity sake, would it be easier to simply let the Onkyo's QDEO handle the video and noise reduction from the cable box, HTPC, and other video sources?

Conversely, I could turn off all the video processing from the receiver, and let the OPPO handle it. Would it make sense to have all of the video inputs running into the receiver, and run the receiver's video out into the OPPO's in, and then going direct to the TV?

I guess what I'm after is a "his" and "hers" settings that allow me to get the best possible picture out of the Oppo while anyone else can just sit down, turn on the system, and have it work in the streamlined manner they'd expect. (ie - I don't mind changing video inputs on the TV as well as inputs on the receiver).

Sorry for mumble of a question, but I've got more options to test than I've got time in the day.
post #6196 of 16387
What about an HDMI splitter between your cable box and 103? This would allow you to run cable box through splitter direct to say HDMI 1 input on the TV. That would allow easy TV watching without the 103 or AVR. You then would use cable box through splitter to 103 to say HDMI 2 input on the TV - you then have all the manly processing and audio desires covered. :-)

Just a thought.
post #6197 of 16387
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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

Is anyone else like me anxiously awaiting a Firmware update? I don't even know what I expect. Here is a wishlist:


Sharpness at 0 = Current sharpness at 0.5 or even 0.25


That one fix would be good enough for me.
Although +1 looks just fine and i can live with it.
(0 is without a doubt soft- Oppo should see this if we do. But didn't they indicated it has something to do with the way the chip works and they can't really do much to change it? It's one or the other?)
post #6198 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

What exactly will the media player app do? iPhone and iPad user here.

I am hoping there is a way to play audio files without a TV connected to the Oppo. If I have to use an iPod app so be it, but the stock remote + front panel display would be cool. Then I won't need to buy the $2k Bryston player wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Mojogypson View Post

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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

Is anyone else like me anxiously awaiting a Firmware update? I don't even know what I expect. Here is a wishlist:


Sharpness at 0 = Current sharpness at 0.5 or even 0.25


That one fix would be good enough for me.
Although +1 looks just fine and i can live with it.
(0 is without a doubt soft- Oppo should see this if we do. But didn't they indicated it has something to do with the way the chip works and they can't really do much to change it? It's one or the other?)

That was Oppo's explanation in an email exchange had with them. I asked if it was possible to make the sharpness control more gentle in it's changes.
They responded that sharpness with the chip was either off, low, medium or high - the only options with the chip -
which is why there's such a big jump between 0 and +1.

Going from 0 to +1, you're going from no extra sharpening (and, I feel some softening from NR - which in the same exchange they explained was always on
in the QEDO chip, even set to 0 NR. Although they said it should be so low as to not damage image quality), to 'low' on the chip, which still looks
like a lot to some of us. Any extra sharpening beyond those 4 steps, per their email, were by changing other parameters (contrast,
etc.)

Edited by Sidetracked - 3/2/13 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

What exactly will the media player app do? iPhone and iPad user here.

Can't speak specifically to the iPad app, but the Android app for the BDP-93 essentially functions as a media browser, much the same as the OSD browser on the player. It doesn't offer video playback or the like, just a file browser. But used together with the remote app, yes it eliminates any need for a video display when browsing and playing files.
post #6201 of 16387
I always basically use the AVR, even for basic TV. Sort of the default. And I have the receiver to pass the TV HDMI even in standby mode, so the TV pretty much just works across the board.

Another straightforward way to do what you suggest would just be to run component video and a coax audio straight to the TV as well, and not worry about the splitter. She'd never know the difference if it was the digital or analog signal.

My (glorious) problem is that I've got way too many options and just want to make sure I'm getting the best picture while everyone else gets simplicity. TV has 4 HDMI in, plus 2 component, so I've got options.

Also, just curious, but when I run the HDMI outputs as A/V split, I'm still getting video sent via HDMI 2 to my AVR, even though in the manual it says "dedicated audio." Not really a problem, but not what I expected. Is something not right?
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

What about an HDMI splitter between your cable box and 103? This would allow you to run cable box through splitter direct to say HDMI 1 input on the TV. That would allow easy TV watching without the 103 or AVR. You then would use cable box through splitter to 103 to say HDMI 2 input on the TV - you then have all the manly processing and audio desires covered. :-)

Just a thought.
post #6202 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Frenshprince View Post

Hi there,

2) HDMI inputs doesnt play correctly 23.976 source.
Signal is played at 24hz, wich bring some judder.
I sent a mail about this to oppo yesterday.

I just ordered one from Amazon for this reason, to play back 23.976 bluray content smoothly, as the PC is unable to do this. I was hoping to play the iso's from the PC and pass it through the Oppo.
post #6203 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

That was Oppo's explanation in an email exchange had with them. I asked if it was possible to make the sharpness control more gentle in it's changes.
They responded that sharpness with the chip was either off, low, medium or high - the only options with the chip -
which is why there's such a big jump between 0 and +1.

Going from 0 to +1, you're going from no extra sharpening (and, I feel some softening from NR - which in the same exchange they explained was always on
in the QEDO chip, even set to 0 NR. Although they said it should be so low as to not damage image quality), to 'low' on the chip, which still looks
like a lot to some of us. Any extra sharpening beyond those 4 steps, per their email, were by changing other parameters (contrast,
etc.)

I'm betting it is the NR that is always on in the QEDO chip which is creating the image softness. Per an earlier post on here Oppo indicated they can control the amount of NR applied via firmware but they chose to leave it on due to Netflix image considerations(?). It would be interesting to see if the QEDO NR setting was tweaked what the image would look like. I'm betting that this may solve the issue and that the sharpness setting is a bit of a red herring. Is it possible that the changing of the sharpness level (even to +1) impacts the QEDO NR processing (or circumvents it altogether) such that there is such a jarring change in image? To me, further proof of the QEDO NR being the culprit is the difference in the image between HDMI 1 and HDMI 2. Even Oppo admits that the image on HDMI 2 may appear slightly sharper. There is no QEDO NR being processed through HDMI 2. I really hope Oppo revisits the always on QEDO NR setting as there is clearly something not right with the HDMI 1 image as it currently stands.
post #6204 of 16387
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Originally Posted by ckronengold View Post


Another straightforward way to do what you suggest would just be to run component video and a coax audio straight to the TV as well, and not worry about the splitter. She'd never know the difference if it was the digital or analog signal.

If you have the legacy component on both that's a good idea. No handshake issues there. The only thing I wouldn't like is the additional cables. Short HDMI runs are so much cleaner. smile.gif
Definitely many ways to skin this animal. If like most, just start trying until you find the one that works the smoothest
post #6205 of 16387
ORemote will run onkyo receivers and also the 103/105 from iPhone/ipad.
post #6206 of 16387
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Originally Posted by cdittmer View Post

I'm betting it is the NR that is always on in the QEDO chip which is creating the image softness. Per an earlier post on here Oppo indicated they can control the amount of NR applied via firmware but they chose to leave it on due to Netflix image considerations(?). It would be interesting to see if the QEDO NR setting was tweaked what the image would look like. I'm betting that this may solve the issue and that the sharpness setting is a bit of a red herring. Is it possible that the changing of the sharpness level (even to +1) impacts the QEDO NR processing (or circumvents it altogether) such that there is such a jarring change in image? To me, further proof of the QEDO NR being the culprit is the difference in the image between HDMI 1 and HDMI 2. Even Oppo admits that the image on HDMI 2 may appear slightly sharper. There is no QEDO NR being processed through HDMI 2. I really hope Oppo revisits the always on QEDO NR setting as there is clearly something not right with the HDMI 1 image as it currently stands.

I completely agree with your assessment and would urge you to email or call Oppo's customer service department. They are a
very customer friendly company, and the more owners they hear this directly from the more likely they may reconsider their stance
and readjust HDMI 1 so NR isn't always on (or they may solve the softness issue some other way).

As it is, right now I have been using my old 83 more than my 103 for blu-rays, which is a little frustrating...
post #6207 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

I completely agree with your assessment and would urge you to email or call Oppo's customer service department. They are a
very customer friendly company, and the more owners they hear this directly from the more likely they may reconsider their stance
and readjust HDMI 1 so NR isn't always on (or they may solve the softness issue some other way).

As it is, right now I have been using my old 83 more than my 103 for blu-rays, which is a little frustrating...

I also expressed my interested with this matter with oppo about the 93. it seems that sharpness +1 makes it look better.
hopefully they can fix the matter.
Jacob
post #6208 of 16387
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

I completely agree with your assessment and would urge you to email or call Oppo's customer service department. They are a
very customer friendly company, and the more owners they hear this directly from the more likely they may reconsider their stance
and readjust HDMI 1 so NR isn't always on (or they may solve the softness issue some other way).

As it is, right now I have been using my old 83 more than my 103 for blu-rays, which is a little frustrating...

I have been dealing with Oppo on another matter and in my last e-mail mentioned that I would like to see something done about the image being output out of HDMI1.
post #6209 of 16387
using my network thru the oppo 103. i use the AVCHD shared virtual drive. works very nice to play blu ray iso. I launch movie with front end xlobby program to mount iso onto demeon tools drive.

It would be nice to have a shortcut on oppos home page of AVCHD drive.
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running htpc thru oppo. most works except windows media center to watch over the air brodcast.
ANybody get WMC TO WORK?
post #6210 of 16387
I had posted that my oppo was fixed and sent back recently. A faulty decoder board caused it to freeze on the oppo logo and it wouldn't go to the home screen. FYI
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