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post #6361 of 16411
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Originally Posted by billymerritt View Post

Anyone have any problem with the Eagles farewell BD disk that came out yesterday?
Here is what I sent to Oppo support to see if they have suggestion for me:

I have had very positive results with my BDP-103 until yesterday. I received the new Blu-ray of The Eagles farewell tour Melbourne and when I try to access the disk pop-up menu it is very erratic and sometimes skips from point to point, and makes it hard to navigate to different songs and features via the menu. I also tried the same disk in my BDP-93 & PS3, and they do not exhibit this problem. This is first disk with problem for me on the 103 and wonder if any of you folks at Oppo have any suggestions for a fix?

I am having the exact same problem with the Blu-rays of They Live and Halloween II. Both are Shout Factory releases which I believe is the parent company of Rhino Records which released your Eagles Blu ray. My titles work fine in my PS3 but not my OPPO. My OPPO is having lots of problems with Blu ray disc menus.
Edited by cdittmer - 3/6/13 at 11:27pm
post #6362 of 16411
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Do either of the Disney or THX Optimizer menus have a sharpness pattern?

Also are you using Source Direct? In that case the picture controls should be bypassed and won't have an effect.

I am gonna check out the Disney test and others people have mentioned here. I have tried Source Direct and 1080p and can't see a difference between the 2. I'm not complaining here, I just do not see a difference and the PQ is great.

Maybe I'll get it when I see the test patterns. Thanks.

JJ
post #6363 of 16411
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Originally Posted by B 26354 View Post

Originally Posted by JJMONIE:

"I do not have a calibration disc. I was waiting for the new Spears and Munsil to come out. Unless there is something better that will do the trick."


Originally Posted by AVfile"

"Do either of the Disney or THX Optimizer menus have a sharpness pattern?"


The Disney WOW disc has some great sharpness patterns and tests.

If you want to see what that disc is all about, before you buy it, go to Disney's WOW webpage:

http://disneydvd.disney.go.com/disney-wow-world-of-wonder.html

Near the bottom of the page, there's a "Games & Downloads" box that provides a "GET IT NOW" button, to download the free 53-page WOW Technical Manual PDF file -- it's the only format in which the manual is available. I'm basically nuts... so I had PIP Printers make a full-color printout of it.

The manual thoroughly explains every aspect of the disc's tests, and has full-color illustrations of all of its tests and test-patterns.

I used the WOW disc to calibrate my 58" Samsung PN58B860 to my Oppo 103, and while I'm still tweaking the brightness/contrast settings a bit... I'm quite happy with the overall results.


Thanks for the advice! This is great forum for help.

JJ
post #6364 of 16411
I just picked up this player from amazon @499.
its a wow.only complaint i have and please don't laugh.
The display is so much on to the left and all my other equipment displays is centered.
post #6365 of 16411
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

How could you have a '103 last May when it was announced in September?
Did you compare directly with the '83?
Without the Darblet?
May have mixed up the time frame but I've had the 103 since it became available. Had the 83 in my HT setup for over two years so when I switched players PQ still looked very, very good to my eyes with sharpness at 0 (both players)'even though I didn't A/B them at the same time. I'm so used to the setup in my HT I trust my eyes 100 percent . Didn't have the Darblet with the 83 but when I added it to the 103 I definitely noticed the additional clarity in the image but didn't see any adverse effects. Several people who are frequent guests said the same thing. Haven't tried it without the Darblet because I really like how it looks. Probably why everyone sees what they see in their own setups.biggrin.gif
post #6366 of 16411
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Originally Posted by billymerritt View Post

Anyone have any problem with the Eagles farewell BD disk that came out yesterday?
Here is what I sent to Oppo support to see if they have suggestion for me:

I have had very positive results with my BDP-103 until yesterday. I received the new Blu-ray of The Eagles farewell tour Melbourne and when I try to access the disk pop-up menu it is very erratic and sometimes skips from point to point, and makes it hard to navigate to different songs and features via the menu. I also tried the same disk in my BDP-93 & PS3, and they do not exhibit this problem. This is first disk with problem for me on the 103 and wonder if any of you folks at Oppo have any suggestions for a fix?
I've had pretty much the same experience, except that my own experience with my BDP-93 vs. my BDP-103 is only somewhat improved.

There's something odd about this disk's navigation and preparation. For example, I have no sound from the main title after inserting the disc. Sound only appears once you begin playing the movie (or navigate to a specific song and start playing).

It's also a bit strange navigating through the popup menu with the keyboard using CyberLink PowerDVD12 on my PC. You kind of want it to respond and close when you push the ENTER key on a selection (e.g. audio mode selection) , but it doesn't. After you push ENTER you still need to continue to use the arrow key to navigate down until you get past the last item on the popup list and then the popup list disappears and the selected main sub-menu item is highlighted on the popup menu bar, and only now can you use left/right arrow to navigate on those sub-menu categories on the popu menu bar.

But I would have to point the source of the problem at the disc itself, with both of my Oppo players falling victim to it. And PowerDVD is only a bit easier to work with, but also I (as human) find the disc's user interface as implemented more than bothersome, as you do.

No question, however, that the 103 seems to be the most troubled of all of these alternatives for me, and does seem at times to "get stuck" and be unresponsive.

You're not alone.


More importantly to me, however, on an artistic level this is the BluRay of the HDTV show of that same tour-closing 2004 Melbourne concert (edited down to just 1 hour I think, can't recall exactly) they had on NBC back a few years ago. That's why it is 1080p/30, and certainly looks great.

Also, the sound of course is stunning, being DTS-HD MA.

However I actually saw this same concert (at Staples Center, where the sound quality is JUST AWFUL, HORRIBLE, AND ATROCIOUS!!... can't imagine they still hold the Grammy's there all these years rather than at the Nokia next door where the acoustics are superior, but I guess it's an audience capacity issue) when they came through LA earlier that year. Being a longtime Eagles lover (I saw them from the first row back at Irvine Meadows in 1994 during "Hell Freezes Over") I was extremely disappointed with their "updated" musical styling for 100% of their classics during this 2004 tour.

In 1994, what made that 30-song set so remarkable was that their onstage performance of these memorable songs was IDENTICAL to the studio/recorded versions we'd all grown to know and love. They were IDENTICAL live, as our minds remembered them, and it was like being in heaven. Of course in 1994 they still had Don Felder with them. But the live performance was musically identical to their pre-tour "dress rehearsal" which was indoors and onstage at an MTV studio concert, while they each sat on stools. That indoor MTV concert made it to the "Hell Freezes Over" DVD, which also had astounding DTS sound, although it was only shot in 4:3 non-HD. And all of these musical versions were IDENTICAL to the studio/recorded versions our minds wanted to hear performed live by them.

And that's why the 1994 concert was so memorable.

In contrast, 10 years later, these guys decided it was time to (a) go on tour again... even though Don Felder had long-since split. They used one of the studio guitarists/arrangers they'd worked with for years (forget his name, but I saw it on the recent Showtime 3-hour 2-part documentary on The Eagles) who simply was not Don Felder. Yes, he tried to mimic the licks Don Felder famously created (e.g. "Hotel California") but it was like the whole group was just TIRED, TIRED, TIRED!!! They seemed to have no energy, and their musical work reflected that attitude. "Give us the money already, and take these songs any way we now give them to you" they seemed to be saying.

So every single classic (e.g. "New Kid In Town") was "dumbed down" and "simplified" and "tweaked just to be different, I suppose", as if that was "good". Well in my mind, it was NOT GOOD. That isn't what I wanted to see or hear.

Now comes this 1080p/30 BluRay with DTS-HD MA audio which is technically wonderful. However this is the same exactly concert from 2004 that I was so heartbroken about after I left Staples that night. Not only was the audio TERRIBLE (so much overdone bass and audio echo in the arena you couldn't clearly hear the music or singing) that night, but I once again was reminded of my exact subjective reaction to their awful musical re-arrangements and stylings that night, and how much I didn't like the new 5th onstage guitarist they'd gone on the road with to replace Felder.

And missing from the new 30-song set? "Pretty Maids All In A Row", so memorably done by Joe Walsh back in 1994 where even he had to cry out as they started the intro "this song is SOOO BEAUTIFUL!". It is, and it was, and thankfully I have it on the 1994 "Hell Freezes Over" SD-DVD in glorious DTS audio.

I would rate this 2004 concert tour "terribly unsatisfying for me artistically and subjectively", although technically this BluRay may be excellent.

I probably will NOT be playing it ever again, so its navigation issues on the Oppo are probably behind me.
post #6367 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Nicodimus22 View Post

After another round of testing, I have overcome some issues, and I also found a new one. I think I will e-mail this list to Oppo:

Firmware wishlist:

-Correct the color issue on HDMI2 so we can have a truly accurate output option.

-Make it so that you can completely turn off the front display. Right now when it's set to Off, it still comes on for 10-15 seconds every time you press a button on the remote. It's obnoxious in a dark room. Off should mean...off.

-During the playback of mp3s from an external drive, the 103 often chops off the first second or so of the song. This may be related to seek times on the hard drive, but other devices manage not to do it somehow. It would be preferable to wait a second or two to start the track from the beginning rather than starting instantly, but chopping off the start of the song.

Regarding the mp3 cut off issue...

Is this just off the first sone or all songs?

Is the sound going directly from the player to a AVR?

I have only been playing flac audio and haven't noticed a delay with that format. Then again, so far it has only be a few songs while I was testing the audio of the unit and maybe they all happened to have gradual audio build up to begin with and so I didn't notice a cut off.
post #6368 of 16411
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Originally Posted by rexdragon View Post

Do you have gracenote activated in the oppo's settings? I suspect the "endlessly loading" is somehow connected to gracenote accessing the internet and downloading metadata(including thumbnail artwork) pertinent to each media file contained in the usb drive. Depending on your internet bandwidth, this process may take a couple minutes or more. I suggest deactivating gracenote in the oppo's settings and see if your accessing/loading problem remains.

Had the problem despite Gracenote being deactivated.
post #6369 of 16411
+1 on the weird menus etc on the Eagles blu ray disc. Like has been mentioned, no music in menu mode which seems a little odd. And "button to response" time is extremely slow. What makes it appear erratic I think, is our (my) impatience with no response after hitting a remote button and so I hit it again. But for the record, this is not the only disc I have that does this (and across players like my Sony and Samsung as well as the Oppo) one of the two David Foster blu rays (not sure which one right now) is a bad actor with response time as well. Good thing about the Eagles disc is that once you start it up, it's absolutely awesome.
Edited by Tornado Red - 3/7/13 at 9:06am
post #6370 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Nicodimus22 View Post

With HDMI 1 or HDMI 2?

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post #6371 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

... It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals...

...It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals...


Once the player has decoded these formats, can it output to both HDMI and the analog output terminals at the same time?
post #6372 of 16411
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

... It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals...

...It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals...


Once the player has decoded these formats, can it output to both HDMI and the analog output terminals at the same time?

Yes.

-Bill
post #6373 of 16411
Just got my 103. Using it only on stereo with sub for now with 5.1 Onkyo and Polks Ls50's...Not using Music Optimizer on Onkyo but would like to hear your audio settings for the Oppo...Cable box is running into Onkyo.
Just want to be certain on any tweaks I can add.....Or safety on speaker overload. 😉
post #6374 of 16411
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes.

-Bill

That was the answer I was looking for. Now comes the crazy idea I had.

I currently have a 7.2 receiver. I would like to add front height speakers, but receivers that can output to 9 speakers in the same zone are very expensive. What if I ran HDMI from the oppo to the receiver for the 7.2 output, and also run analog out for the l/r mains to an outboard amp connected to height speakers.

Any idea if this might be a good and/or workable idea?
post #6375 of 16411
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

That was the answer I was looking for. Now comes the crazy idea I had.

I currently have a 7.2 receiver. I would like to add front height speakers, but receivers that can output to 9 speakers in the same zone are very expensive. What if I ran HDMI from the oppo to the receiver for the 7.2 output, and also run analog out for the l/r mains to an outboard amp connected to height speakers.

Any idea if this might be a good and/or workable idea?

Well, then you have stereo for heights. This is not Dolby IIz or DTS Neo:X but it surely will work. But don't expect, that this will be the same as a Neo:X optimized soundtrack.
But IMO, it should work.
post #6376 of 16411
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

That was the answer I was looking for. Now comes the crazy idea I had.

I currently have a 7.2 receiver. I would like to add front height speakers, but receivers that can output to 9 speakers in the same zone are very expensive. What if I ran HDMI from the oppo to the receiver for the 7.2 output, and also run analog out for the l/r mains to an outboard amp connected to height speakers.

Any idea if this might be a good and/or workable idea?
Well, you'll get sound out of the extra 2 speakers. But you'll need to control volume on both the Oppo and your receiver and the sound coming out of the extra 2 channels won't be "height" content, but duplication of the front left/right content minus any processing your receiver is doing (room correction, etc.). IMO, it really isn't a good idea.
post #6377 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Ganymed4 View Post

Can't you use DLNA? This works flawless with my Windows Server 2012 Essentials. Haven't tried it with a Windows 8 PC yet, but can do this for you if necessary.
And Twonky maybe also a choice. My Oppo also sees the Twonky server on my Win Server 2012.

Hope it helps.

Yeah i could but... i wanted the pure solution hmpf...
I asked oppo service and got this answer:

For Windows 8 you will need to change the SMB sharing from SMB 3.0 to SMB 2.0 (which our player supports). We are not able to use the SMB 3.0 specifications, so we are not compatible with Windows 8 and Mac OSX Lion by their defaults.
Alternatively, you can use a DLNA server such as oShare to share your files over the network.


i dont think there is a way to revert smb sharing from 3.0 back to 2.0 on win 8 ?
post #6378 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Tal L View Post

Regarding the mp3 cut off issue...

Is this just off the first sone or all songs?

Is the sound going directly from the player to a AVR?

I have only been playing flac audio and haven't noticed a delay with that format. Then again, so far it has only be a few songs while I was testing the audio of the unit and maybe they all happened to have gradual audio build up to begin with and so I didn't notice a cut off.

It seems to happen intermittently. It's not just the first song I go to play.

I have HDMI1 running directly into my AVR.
post #6379 of 16411
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

... But you'll need to control volume on both the Oppo and your receiver and the sound coming out of the extra 2 channels won't be "height" content...

Separate volume control doesn't bother me. Volume on the subwoofers is the same way.

I am curious about what exactly "height content" is. I had thought height speakers increased the front sound stage by reflecting the same information as the mains. Is it only certain frequencies that should get sent to the height channels? Does center channel content get sent there also? Certainly side and rear surround information shouldn't be sent there, should it?
post #6380 of 16411
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

I am curious about what exactly "height content" is. I had thought height speakers increased the front sound stage by reflecting the same information as the mains. Is it only certain frequencies that should get sent to the height channels? Does center channel content get sent there also? Certainly side and rear surround information shouldn't be sent there, should it?

Dolby ProLogic IIz, DTS Neo:X and Audyssey DSX processing will extract audio cues from the other channels and redirect them to the height speakers, much like how traditional ProLogic extracts a center channel from 2-channel sources. Ideally, the only audio coming from the height speakers should be ambient effects such as wind and rain, or the occasional discrete sound like a helicopter passing overhead. You don't want dialogue coming from the ceiling.
post #6381 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Elmar View Post

Yeah i could but... i wanted the pure solution hmpf...
I asked oppo service and got this answer:

For Windows 8 you will need to change the SMB sharing from SMB 3.0 to SMB 2.0 (which our player supports). We are not able to use the SMB 3.0 specifications, so we are not compatible with Windows 8 and Mac OSX Lion by their defaults.
Alternatively, you can use a DLNA server such as oShare to share your files over the network.


i dont think there is a way to revert smb sharing from 3.0 back to 2.0 on win 8 ?

I did some research for you and found this:

http://www.thomasmaurer.ch/2012/04/windows-8-consumer-preview-cannot-acces-netapp-cifs-share/

and this

http://techdom.nl/microsoft/managing-windows-server-2012-smb-version-3-protocol/


The problem seems to be the so called secure negotiation, which is not supported by SMB 2.0. However, the last link above tells you, you can not switch off SMB 3.0 on Windows 8.0 but you can switch off secure negotiate, which might cause the actual problem.

Microsoft proposes to you to do the following:

Write to Oppo and tell them you must obey the Microsoft rule!!! biggrin.gif See below:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2686098

'Contact the third-party file server vendor and request an update that will allow the file server to support Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 clients.'

But Microsoft is nice and gives us...

'Workarounds' cool.gif

Enable signing on the third-party file server.

Require signing on the SMB client or the SMB server by turning on the "RequireSecuritySignature" setting. See your vendor’s documentation for instructions on setting signing to "required" on the vendor’s SMB server.

You can enable signing using PowerShell on a Windows Server 2012 or Windows 8 client with this command:

Set-SmbClientConfiguration -RequireSecuritySignature $true
Disable "Secure Negotiate" on the client.
You can do this using PowerShell on a Windows Server 2012 or Windows 8 client, using the command:
Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters" RequireSecureNegotiate -Value 0 -Force


You can use regedit or copy the above command into the power shell. Value 0 turns off Secure Negotiate. Do it on your own risk. I haven't tried it yet, because I don't need it.
Hope it helps but may be not in this case... We'll see-
Edited by Ganymed4 - 3/7/13 at 10:44am
post #6382 of 16411
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

Separate volume control doesn't bother me. Volume on the subwoofers is the same way.
confused.gif Other than calibrating your volume levels manually or using Audyssey, volume on the subwoofers should be controlled by the master volume on your receiver. Yes, there's a volume control on your subwoofers used for calibration purposes, but you shouldn't be routinely adjusting that along with the main volume control on the receiver. If you do what you're suggesting, you'll need to turn the volume up and down on the Oppo to keep in sync with the main volume on your receiver. At best, it's a nuisance and at worst it'll be a PITA to keep the relative volume levels matched so that the "height" speakers aren't louder or quieter than they should be compared to the channels you're using in your receiver. It's your system, so do what you want, but you asked for opinions and mine is that it's a bad idea. Especially if you don't already have an extra amp and pair of speakers lying around, I think the money would be MUCH better spent on other upgrades to your system or put aside towards an eventual upgrade to a new receiver.
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I am curious about what exactly "height content" is. I had thought height speakers increased the front sound stage by reflecting the same information as the mains. Is it only certain frequencies that should get sent to the height channels? Does center channel content get sent there also? Certainly side and rear surround information shouldn't be sent there, should it?
This is really a topic for another thread, but height and width channels are derived from the existing discrete channels, as Josh Z explained. They aren't just copies of existing channels.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Dolby ProLogic IIz, DTS Neo:X and Audyssey DSX processing will extract audio cues from the other channels and redirect them to the height speakers, much like how traditional ProLogic extracts a center channel from 2-channel sources. Ideally, the only audio coming from the height speakers should be ambient effects such as wind and rain, or the occasional discrete sound like a helicopter passing overhead. You don't want dialogue coming from the ceiling.
Unless there's actually someone up on the ceiling talking biggrin.gif.
post #6383 of 16411
If the 103 can't do CIH for the HDMI inputs, doesn't that make the CIH feature rather useless? I'd wager most have more than just blue ray players in their theaters.
post #6384 of 16411
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Originally Posted by Phil Olson View Post

If the 103 can't do CIH for the HDMI inputs, doesn't that make the CIH feature rather useless? I'd wager most have more than just blue ray players in their theaters.

It's currently limited; that doesn't make it useless.

-Bill
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SACD audio set up question.
BDP-103 via HDMI to Pioneer Elite SC-67.
SACD Output.
PCM to the Pioneer or DSD to the Pioneer?
Which option will provide (theoretically) the best sound?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by TracerJohn View Post

SACD audio set up question.
BDP-103 via HDMI to Pioneer Elite SC-67.
SACD Output.
PCM to the Pioneer or DSD to the Pioneer?
Which option will provide (theoretically) the best sound?

Thanks
Theoretically they are identical. Many listeners prefer to stuff theory, and make up their own minds.

If your Pioneer actually accepts HDMI DSD input, and actually has the special DACs to enable DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion, be aware that actually DOING that in the AVR likely means you are also bypassing any audio processing in the AVR. For example, no bass management (Crossover processing) or speaker distance adjustment. That sort of processing is done digitally and requires LPCM audio streams. So if the Pioneer is doing that despite being sent DSD that means the Pioneer is itself converting DSD to LPCM on input. Which means you might as well let the OPPO do it.

Typically you will have to make a setting in your AVR to enable its DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion, since that disables other audio processing.
--Bob
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Is it worth spending the cash on a high end BD player like the 103, if you only have a low-mid range sound set up? I need a new BD player and am considering the 103, mainly because of the great things I'm hearing about the sound reproduction, but my sound set up is currently an Onkyo SR508 (http://*******.com/c868frr) with Boston Acoustics Soundware 5.1 SE package (http://*******.com/cmyjtc8)

Am I going to hear much difference between the Oppo and my current player (Panny BDT110) using this set up?
post #6388 of 16411
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

... It's your system, so do what you want, but you asked for opinions and mine is that it's a bad idea.

I do want opinions. Sorry if my response seemed argumentative.

I have no strong feelings either way about trying this type of setup. It is really more of an intellectual curiosity driving my inquiry. I sensed that such a setup wouldn't be recommended (I knew it had to be a "crazy" idea), but was curious as to why.

I wasn't thinking about the receiver's role in regards to subwoofer levels. Thanks for pointing that out. Although for me, it would be a minor annoyance. I watch discs at the same sound level setting 95% of the time.

As recommended I will try the "height content" discussion in another thread.
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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin View Post

Is it worth spending the cash on a high end BD player like the 103, if you only have a low-mid range sound set up? I need a new BD player and am considering the 103, mainly because of the great things I'm hearing about the sound reproduction, but my sound set up is currently an Onkyo SR508 (http://*******.com/c868frr) with Boston Acoustics Soundware 5.1 SE package (http://*******.com/cmyjtc8)

Am I going to hear much difference between the Oppo and my current player (Panny BDT110) using this set up?

The easiest answer is to try it yourself, with your equipment, and see. For example, if you buy direct from the OPPO Digital web site, they offer an easy, 30 day return period. You only risk the shipping cost.

However, when you use HDMI audio, the primary factors for sound quality are things going on in your HDMI-equipped AVR, etc. That's where the sound is being processed. People using HDMI audio primarily buy the 103 for OTHER reasons, such as the range of things it can play, its speed and flexibility, and video capabilities. As well as secondary factors such as OPPO's highly regarded customer service.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin View Post

Is it worth spending the cash on a high end BD player like the 103, if you only have a low-mid range sound set up? I need a new BD player and am considering the 103, mainly because of the great things I'm hearing about the sound reproduction, but my sound set up is currently an Onkyo SR508 (http://*******.com/c868frr) with Boston Acoustics Soundware 5.1 SE package (http://*******.com/cmyjtc8)

Am I going to hear much difference between the Oppo and my current player (Panny BDT110) using this set up?

Assuming you connect with HDMI and the AVR decodes the audio, it makes no difference what player you use - in terms of "audio quality" they are all the same. This is true regardless of what type system you connect the player to.

Buy the Oppo for its universal disc and media compatibility or other features. Digital audio is all the same regardless of the player.
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