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post #6421 of 16420
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Originally Posted by videopotus View Post

I have the BDP-103 and love it. I got it for the video processing power it has and am very happy with the PQ it produces. That said, I've been looking at getting the Darblet but am not sure if I will see any PQ benefit given the abilities of the 103 that are currently enabled. Do any of you 103 owners also use the Darblet? If so, do you recommend it?

What the Darblet does is very different than any of the features in the 103. The 103 has traditional edge sharpening and contrast boosting options. You should turn those off. The Darblet uses proprietary technology to enhance detail without artifacts. The two products are complimentary.

There's a lengthy thread about the Darblet in the Video Processors forum with more information on what it does.
post #6422 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

What the Darblet does is very different than any of the features in the 103. The 103 has traditional edge sharpening and contrast boosting options. You should turn those off. The Darblet uses proprietary technology to enhance detail without artifacts. The two products are complimentary.

There's a lengthy thread about the Darblet in the Video Processors forum with more information on what it does.

With HD content the QDEO can employ a type of boundary luminance enhancement that alters pixel luminance to exaggerate the difference between areas without creating traditional halo type artefact associated with sharpening routines. This is similar to the process DVP uses except it's applied uniformly whereas DVP is selective based on frame content and the amount can be adjusted. The Oppo sharpening process is different for SD and will typically introduce artefacts.

On the previous generation setting the Oppo sharpness control to +1 on HDMI 1 wouldn't have an effect on assessment material i.e. Spears & Munsil luma/chroma tests but did have a visible affect on real world content.
post #6423 of 16420
I have switched off the secure negotiation feature on my server and could access the whole directory structure on the server.

The funny thing is, that e.g. my music folders are empty now, except for the jpegs of the album art, which are not shown in DLNA mode. The SMB/ CIFS mode doesn't show .flac or .wav files. But it works. I know it's experimental. In other words, I can access music files only via DLNA and play them, but not via SMB/CIFS. This is not as I thought the function would work. In the manual it is written on page 42: "Accessing a SMB/CIFS client...as if accessing an external USB hard drive."

Well, OK, it is experimental.

What you have to do is start the PowerShell in administrator mode on the Windows 8 PC - right click on the PowerShell, chose 'Run as Administrator'. Then type in the PowerShell window:

Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters" RequireSecureNegotiate -Value 0 -Force

That's it. To turn secure negotiate back on, change '-Value 0' to '-Value 1' and the same whole string.
post #6424 of 16420
I would like to know what will I gain by getting the 103. I have a Samsung BD-D5500 and thought about upgrading up to the oppo 103 because I hear what a great player oppo is. Now on the flip side I hear from some people I will see no difference in sound or picture over my current blu ray player, at least nothing I will notice anyway I am told. Can anyone tell what I can or cannot gain by laying down the cash for a new oppo 103. I lean more towards sound than picture and I have been told anything my blu player does not have, my AVR will reproduce it. I have a Denon AVR 3312ci.

Thank you in advance for any help.
post #6425 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I would like to know what will I gain by getting the 103. I have a Samsung BD-D5500 and thought about upgrading up to the oppo 103 because I hear what a great player oppo is. Now on the flip side I hear from some people I will see no difference in sound or picture over my current blu ray player, at least nothing I will notice anyway I am told. Can anyone tell what I can or cannot gain by laying down the cash for a new oppo 103. I lean more towards sound than picture and I have been told anything my blu player does not have, my AVR will reproduce it. I have a Denon AVR 3312ci.

Thank you in advance for any help.

You will not notice a huge difference in sound or picture quality over HDMI. I have a Denon 2311CI and noticed just a slight difference in PQ. I shut off all video processing on the Denon. Not $500 worth that's for sure.

The great thing about the Oppo is all the features it has to offer and they do have a great track record on firmware releases and customer service.

I have had the player just over 2 months and love it. The load times are super duper fast, great menu's and set up features. It also plays almost anything you can throw at it and has 2 HDMI in's that you can hook up other devices to take advantage of the players video processing or use it to extend the number of HDMI inputs your systems has.

My old player was a Panny BDP100 and like I said have noticed a small difference in PQ/AQ but the 103 blows it away in speed, ease of use and networking capabilities. If these extra's mean nothing to you, then keep what you have and enjoy.

JJ
post #6426 of 16420
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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

With HD content the QDEO can employ a type of boundary luminance enhancement that alters pixel luminance to exaggerate the difference between areas without creating traditional halo type artefact associated with sharpening routines. This is similar to the process DVP uses except it's applied uniformly whereas DVP is selective based on frame content and the amount can be adjusted. The Oppo sharpening process is different for SD and will typically introduce artefacts.

On the previous generation setting the Oppo sharpness control to +1 on HDMI 1 wouldn't have an effect on assessment material i.e. Spears & Munsil luma/chroma tests but did have a visible affect on real world content.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

What the Darblet does is very different than any of the features in the 103. The 103 has traditional edge sharpening and contrast boosting options. You should turn those off. The Darblet uses proprietary technology to enhance detail without artifacts. The two products are complimentary.

There's a lengthy thread about the Darblet in the Video Processors forum with more information on what it does.

Thank you, both. I had looked at the Darblet thread, and found it to be helpful, but was hoping to see some 103 owner's experiences as to the effect. Sounds like it might be worth it?
post #6427 of 16420
Review: OPPO BDP-103 Universal 3D Blu-ray Disc Player - Tell Technology - Dennis Burger - March 8, 2013
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As odd as it might be to call a $499 Blu-ray player a value, especially in the face of wonderfully performing players costing a third as much, I really do feel like the BDP-103 hits an economic sweet spot, given everything it offers. It’s a marvelously future-ready device that should maintain its value for a long, long time.

Until, that is, OPPO cooks up an even more-feature-packed model for exactly the same price. At this point, though, I’m really not sure what the company could add.
post #6428 of 16420
Been using my 103 to stream Netflix. Yes, the onscreen guide is pretty bad, but it beats buying an additional box to stream. Will Oppo be getting an Amazon app to stream their shows too?
post #6429 of 16420
Unless it has already been reported before, I think I may have found a pretty serious video bug with the current firmware (10XEU-38-1220) that I'd like some of you guys to confirm...

First you need to directly connect the Oppo to a full HD (1920x1080) display via HDMI.
Then you need to set the Oppo's 'Output Resolution' to 'Source Direct'.

Now here's what I've noticed: -
When you play 'standard-def' 720x480 progressive MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part-2 (SP/ASP), MPEG-4 Part-10 (AVC) and VC-1 video sources placed within either the AVI, M2TS, MP4, MPG, and MKV containers. All the sources are output as interlaced not progressive.

Also, when you play 'standard-def' 720x576 progressive MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part-2 (SP/ASP), MPEG-4 Part-10 (AVC) and VC-1 video sources placed within either the AVI, M2TS, MP4, MPG, and MKV containers. All the sources are output as interlaced not progressive. And more alarmingly, some of the .MP4 and .MKV contained sources are output at 480i not 576.

If this issue can be confirmed, it might explain why some people are complaining about poor quality/soft 'up-scaled' images. As 50% of the source images detail has been removed...


Cheers all
post #6430 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Will Oppo be getting an Amazon app to stream their shows too?

No one knows; it's up to Amazon.

The Roku Streaming Stick has Amazon.

-Bill
post #6431 of 16420
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Unless it has already been reported before, I think I may have found a pretty serious video bug with the current firmware (10XEU-38-1220) that I'd like some of you guys to confirm...

First you need to directly connect the Oppo to a full HD (1920x1080) display via HDMI.
Then you need to set the Oppo's 'Output Resolution' to 'Source Direct'.

Now here's what I've noticed: -
When you play 'standard-def' 720x480 progressive MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part-2 (SP/ASP), MPEG-4 Part-10 (AVC) and VC-1 video sources placed within either the AVI, M2TS, MP4, MPG, and MKV containers. All the sources are output as interlaced not progressive.

Also, when you play 'standard-def' 720x576 progressive MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part-2 (SP/ASP), MPEG-4 Part-10 (AVC) and VC-1 video sources placed within either the AVI, M2TS, MP4, MPG, and MKV containers. All the sources are output as interlaced not progressive. And more alarmingly, some of the .MP4 and .MKV contained sources are output at 480i not 576.

If this issue can be confirmed, it might explain why some people are complaining about poor quality/soft 'up-scaled' images. As 50% of the source images detail has been removed...


Cheers all

What is your source of progressive standard definition video?

Does switching between NTSC and PAL output change the 576i/480i issue?

Does explicit 480p/576p output resolution produce the correct signal?

-Bill
post #6432 of 16420
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No one knows; it's up to Amazon.

The Roku Streaming Stick has Amazon.

-Bill

I read awhile back there were some issues (bugs) with the stick. Have they worked it out? Wonder if I can still buy it for half off?
post #6433 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Wonder if I can still buy it for half off?

http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RokuSSB

-Bill
post #6434 of 16420
perhaps a strange question because i overlooked something, but since when the 103 can stretch java authored 3d blu-ray discs ??? i already gave up for this but out of curiosity i threw in Tintin in 3d today which didn't worked at all to stretch on the 93 for my isco and with the 103, it did ! eek.gif
post #6435 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Elmar View Post

perhaps a strange question because i overlooked something, but since when the 103 can stretch java authored 3d blu-ray discs ??? i already gave up for this but out of curiosity i threw in Tintin in 3d today which didn't worked at all to stretch on the 93 for my isco and with the 103, it did ! eek.gif

I believe certain types still won't. Those with the Picture-in-Picture feature? My test disc is SERENITY which is still not zoomable. I haven't tested any 3D.

I thought the -83 and -93 handled zoom on all java discs? Not true? Probably doesn't work with Source Direct.

-Bill
post #6436 of 16420
I have a request I was planning to submit to Oppo for possible future upgrades, but, thought I would run by here to get some feedback first.

What I would like to see, on the larger front display, is a description of what format the current disc is paying. ie., DTS Master HD, Dolby TruHD, etc. I realize it is shown in small characters on the top of the display, and that you can have it show on the video screen by pressing the info button, but I would like to see an option to have it displayed on the main part of the display.
post #6437 of 16420
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

What is your source of progressive standard definition video?
Original sources have been extracted from PAL progressive DVD sources (with Frame Coding/Sequence Extension corrected where necessary) and NTSC DVD source (with Pull-down flagging removed).
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Does switching between NTSC and PAL output change the 576i/480i issue?
No
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Does explicit 480p/576p output resolution produce the correct signal?
In the case of 720x576p25 MPEG-2 sources in .M2TS, I can say yes, the full image detail is restored. I have not had chance to test other formats in other containers yet though...


Cheers
post #6438 of 16420
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I believe certain types still won't. Those with the Picture-in-Picture feature? My test disc is SERENITY which is still not zoomable. I haven't tested any 3D.

I thought the -83 and -93 handled zoom on all java discs? Not true? Probably doesn't work with Source Direct.

-Bill

no, the 93 couldnt handle java 3D at all (2D he could of course). I dont have any PiP discs but Tintin definitely was affected and now works without problems, great, it solves some headache for my setup now
post #6439 of 16420
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Originally Posted by videopotus View Post

I have the BDP-103 and love it. I got it for the video processing power it has and am very happy with the PQ it produces. That said, I've been looking at getting the Darblet but am not sure if I will see any PQ benefit given the abilities of the 103 that are currently enabled. Do any of you 103 owners also use the Darblet? If so, do you recommend it?

 

I've had the Darblet for 6 months or so and find it excellent. It works the best on high quality images from DVDs and Blurays and other high quality image sources. But images with lots of compression artifacts or other forms of noise will not benefit at all from the Darblet. The reason, i believe, i;ve not been bothered much by the inherent softness of images on HDMI1 produced by my 105 is due to the Darblet. Its form of processing is NOT like the standard sharpness filters found in the Oppo and other image processors. The explanation is rather complex and would direct you to their website www.darbeevision.com . They have exaggerated the effect of the darbee for effect, but the unit has 3 modes namely HQ mode, Games Mode and Pop Mode. Each mode has an intensity factor from 0(off) to 100%(fully on). I use the HQ mode at 50% using my 60" plasma sitting 12-feet away and the BD images are amazing. Turning it off makes you hate your TV for all things seem blurry and soft.

 

They have a 30 day evaluation policy so you should try it for yourself. Most people keep their units for Darbee images are extremely addictive. It is HDMI1.4 compliant as well, so it can handle 3D images as well.

 

- David

post #6440 of 16420
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RokuSSB

-Bill

Is the Oppo site down? I can't get on? I still have their email offering the Roku stick for $50 buried in my inbox. Wonder if it's still good?
post #6441 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Is the Oppo site down? I can't get on? I still have their email offering the Roku stick for $50 buried in my inbox. Wonder if it's still good?
Its down just tried it .
post #6442 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RokuSSB

-Bill

Is the Oppo site down? I can't get on? I still have their email offering the Roku stick for $50 buried in my inbox. Wonder if it's still good?

It was up when I posted the link; down now.

Yes, the Roku stick is still $50.

-Bill
post #6443 of 16420
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

What is your source of progressive standard definition video?
Original sources have been extracted from PAL progressive DVD sources (with Frame Coding/Sequence Extension corrected where necessary) and NTSC DVD source (with Pull-down flagging removed).
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Does switching between NTSC and PAL output change the 576i/480i issue?
No
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Does explicit 480p/576p output resolution produce the correct signal?
In the case of 720x576p25 MPEG-2 sources in .M2TS, I can say yes, the full image detail is restored. I have not had chance to test other formats in other containers yet though...


Cheers

 

Please inform Oppo of your findings ... if proven, this would be great oversight on their part indeed. Do you see the same problem on 1080i/p sources?

post #6444 of 16420
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

Its down just tried it .
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It was up when I posted the link; down now.

Yes, the Roku stick is still $50.

-Bill

Looks like it's back up. Thanks.

Now to get the stick or Roku 3? Decisions, decisions.
post #6445 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post


Looks like it's back up. Thanks.

Now to get the stick or Roku 3? Decisions, decisions.

I would get the Roku 3 over the stick. I'm probably going to sell my 2 XS to get the 3.
post #6446 of 16420
Is there any way to get the 103 to consistently put out a signal that is on the network as a DNLA device?

I use JRiver Media Center as my access point between the Oppo, my computer and the network.

Oppo never shows instantly with JRiver (everything else on the network is visible), sometimes I only have to wait a few moments and other times in never shows and I have to cycle the 103 on and off to get it to show up, sometimes I have to go in the network settings area of the 103, sometimes I have to shut down Media Center (Only 1 time for this).

Oppo says it is JRiver and JRiver says its Oppo...great frown.gif
post #6447 of 16420
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

If this issue can be confirmed, it might explain why some people are complaining about poor quality/soft 'up-scaled' images. As 50% of the source images detail has been removed...

Does that follow? If it is interlacing progressive input there should be no loss of detail. 480i and 576i have the same resolution as 480p and 576p.

This also can't apply to the original DVDs, which are always interlaced.

-Bill
post #6448 of 16420
What brand region kit Ito play 2 's on do you use? Discovered that Universal is not what I thought.😔
post #6449 of 16420
I am loving oppo 103 it is great addition. not having a receiver for over 3 years and now I have a way to input 2 devices, that is very nice.

the main problem i have is that silly pop when changing inputs (analog outs). I have done a mute home mute command to elimate that pop. A quick discrete command for input change with mute will work until a firmare is released.



is there discrete codes for all apps and inputs? what does discrete on and off due from the download ir codes from oppo?

with inputs i can set up a macro of commands but with lets say pandora app it would be harder to get a good working macro.

thank you
larry
post #6450 of 16420
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Originally Posted by jerrygene View Post

Duplicate entry

You can delete your posts you know, just click on the x next to the pencil.

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Originally Posted by jerrygene View Post

What brand region kit Ito play 2 's on do you use? Discovered that Universal is not what I thought.😔

I play region 2 DVDs using the software hack on the 83. Is there anything like that for the 103?
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