Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 223

Thanks. I found a quick info guide for it on the 93 wiki as well. Ill throw in Spears later and check out Source Direct HDMI 444 and see how the results are. Im kinda a fan of just outputting whats on the disc, not sure the need for sharpening on noise reduction on a Blu-ray is anyways. Granted like you said, the effect is probably small.

I had sent a PM to AB previously when he posted his problem, as I experience the same issues. Running the 103 directly to a high quality separate amp, the clicks and pops are quite annoying. Even playing a usb flac file results in the click between tracks. I also run Direct TV through the 103 for the improved video quality, the ability to have the 103 decode through the analog outs, create the 5.1 in the various formats. Having the excellent remote control on the volume is also appreciated as I used a separate preamp for my two channel audiophile listening before with my 83se without level control. And, as AB noted, the audio quality of the 103 into great equipment is, as I previously posted, stellar,

Unfortunately, the Direct TV source ends up with even louder pops and clicks. It also, as they already know, does not play back premium recorded shows without coming up with a message about your "TV not being able to handle the program, switch to component cables" or some nonsense. The trick is to leave the HBO or whatever show playing from your source, turn off the 103, and then back on, choose your hdmi source again, and the movie then is playing without issue. If you change to another movie, you have to go through the off and back on process again. I want to "y" the hdmi coming out of Direct TV with one hdmi to the TV, and one going through the 103 as I now have. I tried a passive hdmi splitter, and an amplified one and neither passed the signal. I wrote and OPPO said to get the 105 because I guess that has the capability of that which I hadn't read. I sent back a note saying I didn't wish to spend another $600 and could they just tell me that it was possible to split the hdmi and get the signal through. They said it was, but not how. I have ordered a more powerful splitter, as I want to watch bastketball games while listening to a CD or USB flac file. I sense, after having a 971, an 83, the upgrade to SE, that the problems being discussed are taking their toll on the engineers. Seems there are quite a few problems in quite a few areas beyond just the normal firmware upgrades of previous units. I sold my SE to get the capabilities of the 103 I listed, but it seems the list of issues is growing.

Have always been impressed with their attention and improvements, and hope they can resolve all these things because in my case, the audio quality direct to my beloved Apogee Duettas is, as AB mentioned, making me re-listen to my collection of audiophile discs of all formats. I, probably as some, run dual hdmi's from the 103 so I have a choice of inputs for the two processors on my LG, and am not as discerning about contrast and love the snap to the better chip, especially on the improvement from the Direct TV HDVR.

Since you'll be 'throwing in S&M', would you be so kind to check up on this issue I mentioned earlier - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1311806/official-oppo-bdp-95-owners-thread/10260#post_23074846
Thanks!

No problem. Mines tough to get at, and runs thru a Denon AVR on pass through. Ill check HDMI 1080p and 1080i for you shortly, as well as Source Direct for the 103.

I have the "pops" too. At first I thought I was imagining them because they sounded like the pops on vinyl. I'm just going to ignore them. I agree that my CDs and SACDs are sounding much better. I wish I had spent the extra money for the 105

Which input connection are you using. Analogue (RCA) or HDMI?

OK.

Oppo to Denon 3313 to VT50 65"
VT50 is running in THX Cinema

I checked Source Direct, 1080i and 1080p settings for Oppo resolution, with the VT50 in HD Size 2 (pixel for pixel), Deep Color OFF, ycbcr 4:4:4, 24p on and the VT50 in 96hz mode.

Coming out of HDMI 1, all three resolution settings passed all overscan, scaling, luma/chroma and vertical/horizontal tests on both Spears and Munsil and WOW. I really cant see where I can test anything else.

Im gonna run with HDMI 1, Source Direct, 4:4:4 and 24p on, not looking back. Audio delay was also spot on using DVE and WOW.

gadgtfreak, thanks for your info.

Well, that's another positive feedback (so it's a double '+' for 10x) 'bout no scaling/cropping issues with bdp-10x series. Great to hear, actually. Since I'll be upgrading soon. Hope this issue is only regarding the previous 9x series and the older MTK8530.

You should try d-nice's settings and see how you like 'em. Are you running your cable or sat box through it?

I realize that it wasn't really designed for this, but has anyone tried running a Wii through the 103's HDMI input to see if it looks any sharper?

Before I get flooded with "but Wii doesn't have HDMI out!" comments, here:

http://www.amazon.com/Hight-Quality-Convertor-Nintendo-Headphone/dp/B0065BB7M8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I was, but it had some weird lip sync issues.

I heartily agree ...best to re-link at http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-thread/6540#post_23074642

RCA

Because you're subconsciously expecting to hear a difference?
It's not all that interesting unless all the variables that muddy the subjective results can be isolated via an aforementioned double-blind listening test (this would require you being able to repeatedly successfully distinguish between the 2 players on a given sample to the point that the result is statistically significant, and preferably with multiple audio passages).

In addition to what vinnie97 wrote, you have to insure that the volume produced by both players is measurably identical, or they will sound different. Usually the higher volume will sound better.

Never underestimate the power of the mind to fool us. Just look at the money that's made with exotic wall sockets, power cords, fuses, and speaker wire.

Mine would come and go, sometimes quite bad. Too much annoyance for something not overly important.

I was having problems with audio sync as well until I hit FFWD on the cable box controller, synced right up.

Regards,
Will

Is this as good as the ROKU 3? 

I considered the Roku stick but all my equipment is hardwire ethernet and not wireless which is what was required for the stick. If that has changed then I would get the stick.

No, the Roku stick requires it's own wireless connection; it doesn't even use the player's wireless.

Other Roku products have ethernet. You can connect directly to the AVR or display, or try it into the OPPO HDMI inputs.

-Bill

I don't know. Depends on your needs and network I guess. The more I use the stick the more I like it and the more likely I am to get the ROKU 3.

Three questions:

Any clue when we might see a Firmware update? I am hoping since it has been a while, this one will be a big one and will at least resolve some of the feedback related to HDMI 1 or HDMI 2 as representing a true reference video source.

I know that picking "Auto" for color space is generally not recomended, but what color space does Vudu broadcast in? I assume it is 444 since that is at least what my Cisco Cable box is using.

Finally, is it my imagination or does Deep Color on actually have an affect on either HDMI 1 and 2? To my eyes, (And this could be me tricking myself), colors seem more intense or more contrast but somewhat fake looking.


Thoughts on any of the three items asked above?

We've heard nothing definite. OPPO hardly ever gives advance notice. Some people report getting experimental firmware updates from Support, indicating that something is cooking.


That may depend more on how your display responds to the different input signal.

-Bill

I didn't expect a difference and that was so surprising for me! This is the point, that I could clearly hear a difference, where I didn't expect one. Before that, I used my Audyssey Pro-Kit for measuring on 12 positions before and was very happy with the sound. Then came the Oppo and somehow destroyed it a bit, due to the 'thickened' bass. However, I am still experimenting with it and I am testing.
I also recognized to my surprise, that I used HDMI 2 as output and changed to HDMI 1 which I like better picture-wise. Now I have to compare again the sound.

My opinion about blind tests is not this high. There are discussions against and for it. For somebody with limited time, it is nearly impossible to do this.

What I can tell you is, there is a difference - for me - and I didn't expect it at all.

I also hear sonic differences in my gear..all digital does not sound the same!..even swapping out hi quality HDMI cables,I'm getting slighty different sound,using audioquest carbon,and straight wire super silver HDMI..music thru my oppo sounds a lot different than the same CD in my CD/DAC combo all running thru a anthem Mrx pre and parasound halo amps,everything level matched..using the same HDMI cables and everything using shuyanta venom power cords..big differences.. My CD/DAC with upgraded pangae power supply trumps all else..my oppo 103 sounds a close second..the CD/DAC had much more depth,almost 3- dimensional sound..the oppo definitely sounds great..just a different sound,same goes for Sirius radio into my Mrx,
And yes..good power cords and cables do make a difference, and its not a slight one!

This week or next week is what I heard

I think this discussion is better suited to audio theory forums.

I had my second run in with lip sync issues last night. It was within the first 2-3 chapters of Gran Torino on BD. Surprised me also how fast it worsened; even my 9 year old noticed it. I quit playback and once restarted, it played just fine straight through/no issues??!!??

Kinda a head scratcher...

On another note, I was also surprised at how AWFUL Unforgiven DVD looked coming through the 103. Is this disc notorious for being rough? Just curious as I didn't expect it to be so poor, or maybe I have the Oppo set incorrectly (or there's something I can do in settings?)?

B

I remember that disc being very poor. The Warner Eastwood DVDs tended to be bottom of the barrel.

That said: you are using 1080p output, not Source Direct? Done any calibration of the display?

-Bill

Is there any way to delete a file on the network from the Oppo after I'm done watching it? Or do I have to do that from my computer (which as far as I can tell is the case, unless I'm missing something, which I hope)?