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post #7891 of 16416
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

I thought I might have a brighter side of the day but that fell apart too. I followed the threads here and ordered a Roku Stick on Monday and it got here today! I wanted particularly to get a shot at Amazon Prime videos. So far it is the worst $50 I have ever spent.

Netflix, on my Oppo, works great and I have no complaints about either video or sound. Amazon, on the Roku, takes forever to download anything and, when it finally does, it is never above two-dot (out of four) quality. Forget HD and 5.1! The movies look like a home video with an out-of-focus camera. Then it goes into buffering about every 30 seconds: LONG buffering. My router, Oppo WiFi attachment and the Roku are all within a foot of each other. I started checking for the Internet evaluations and found a sizable crowd all complaining about Amazon's quality. But even Netflix looks fuzzy on the Roku while it is sharp on the Oppo. Am I doing something obviously wrong?

I'm about to find a new hobby!

I spent about two hours in three sessions with Roku today and, through the melodies of various English dialects, finally was directed to change my Wi-Fi channel and, after several resets and re-pluggings everything got to where I think it should be. The previous channel just wasn't up to the challenge. Amazon looks pretty good: HD and 5.1 both work. I looked at Netflix and the picture was great but the advertised 5.1, which works fine directly from Oppo-Netflix, was missing. I'll play some more.

BTW, there might be a small penalty to pay in not having the Roku remote. I was directed to do a choreographed button push on it by the Roku guy and it didn't appear that the Oppo remote was doing the same thing he wanted to see. It involved:

Push Home 5 times
Push FF 1 time
Push Play 1 time
Push RW 1 time
Push Play 1 time
Push FF 1 time

He didn't tell me exactly what was supposed to happen but I'll tell you it didn't.
post #7892 of 16416
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

Hello,
Thanks for the reply. The oShare works great with my Jriver media player! My Anthem doesn't decode DSD so it is not a problem.

Curious if you tried any other DLNA servers, like Plex for example. Its also free.
I've been using it, and generally happy, but always looking to tweak something and squeeze out some added performance.
post #7893 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Actually Sony *IS* doing a recall of the new "Total Recall". I don't know if they've started shipping the replacement discs yet, but the end of this article will tell you what you need to do to get in the queue for a replacement:

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/010713_1200

Spread the word, as Sony really SHOULD have to pay the cost of their poor disc-authoring quality control.
--Bob

hello,
Has anyone tried Total Recall in bitstream with the new beta firmware to see if the audio sync problems are solved?
In the link from Bob, it was said that Sony is working with player manufacturers so that firmware updates would solve the problem.
post #7894 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Magkin View Post

Hi What is more interesting is that the issue is GONE when changing to HDMI 2, but this is not the solution as Qdeo processor is then not in use... frown.gif


Does HDMI 1 use the HDMI transmitter circuit integrated in to the Marvell chip itself or is the HDMI transmitter solution common to both Mediatek and Marvell chips ?
post #7895 of 16416
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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

Does HDMI 1 use the HDMI transmitter circuit integrated in to the Marvell chip itself or is the HDMI transmitter solution common to both Mediatek and Marvell chips ?

Dunno, is there two HDMI transmitters in the Oppo, for the dual display feature?

I got the recommendation from the shop there I bought the unit to try the latest beta firmware...
post #7896 of 16416
Good day!
I have a processor Onkyo PR-SC5509 and amplifier NAD M25
The processor have XLR inputs, but no outputs, the amplifier have not XSL inputs, to make direct from OPPO via XLR.
What is preferable to buy 105 ор 103 in these case? Is the sound quality difference on analog RCA between 103 and 105.
I listen SACD stereo, HD music, and films.
Thanks for advice.
post #7897 of 16416
I hoop it doesn't come over as unkind, but there is quite easily a lot of information about this to find in the 103 and the 105 threads and in the reviews which are mentioned at the beginning of the threads.
post #7898 of 16416
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Originally Posted by shedlerman View Post

Good day!
I have a processor Onkyo PR-SC5509 and amplifier NAD M25
The processor have XLR inputs, but no outputs, the amplifier have not XSL inputs, to make direct from OPPO via XLR.
What is preferable to buy 105 ор 103 in these case? Is the sound quality difference on analog RCA between 103 and 105.
I listen SACD stereo, HD music, and films.
Thanks for advice.
Did you really need to crosspost this in THREE threads? rolleyes.gif Next time, give people a chance to answer your question first. Many of us monitor all 3 threads and it's wasteful / annoying / inefficient to have the same conversation split across all 3.

You don't need XLR inputs and outputs to get full advantage of analog audio outputs. You haven't provided nearly enough info for people to give you useful answers, such as what brand/model of processor, amp, and speakers you have. In general, if the DAC implementation in the processor is better, then use HDMI, if the DAC implementation in the source is better use analog. If the rest of your gear isn't excellent (especially the speakers), spending extra money on the 105 probably doesn't make sense.
post #7899 of 16416
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Did you really need to crosspost this in THREE threads? rolleyes.gif Next time, give people a chance to answer your question first. Many of us monitor all 3 threads and it's wasteful / annoying / inefficient to have the same conversation split across all 3.

You don't need XLR inputs and outputs to get full advantage of analog audio outputs. You haven't provided nearly enough info for people to give you useful answers, such as what brand/model of processor, amp, and speakers you have. In general, if the DAC implementation in the processor is better, then use HDMI, if the DAC implementation in the source is better use analog. If the rest of your gear isn't excellent (especially the speakers), spending extra money on the 105 probably doesn't make sense.

Sorry for crossposts.
I have Focal-Mblad Pprofile 928 Diamond.
As can I see from your post, if DAC in Onkyo better than DAC in Oppo, i need 103, if no 105.
Than question wich DAC is better for my setup and speakers?
Thanks.
post #7900 of 16416
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Originally Posted by shedlerman View Post

Sorry for crossposts.
I have Focal-Mblad Pprofile 928 Diamond.
As can I see from your post, if DAC in Onkyo better than DAC in Oppo, i need 103, if no 105.
Than question wich DAC is better for my setup and speakers?
Thanks.

So it's a comparison of the Onkyo's Burr Brown DACs versus the ESS Sabre DACs in the 105.

It is also a consideration of whether you are willing to bypass the room correction that the Onkyo gives you (Audissey XT32) by doing the HDMI connection versus doing the room settings manually on the Oppo by doing the analog connection .

You have a very good system, so it would go well with either. Look at what answers you might get in the other threads, but ultimately it comes down to individual preference, unless you also use headphones and can benefit from the headphone amp that the 105 provides.

You might be best off by ordering a 105, using the one month return period, and trying both approaches. The 103 and 105 have the same HDMI innards, so testing the Onkyo through HDMI is equivalent. Then test the 105's analog inputs to the Onkyo and set the Onkyo to do no processing.

If you're happy with the HDMI approach, then you can return the 105 and get a 103. It will be the same. If you find that you want the analog processing that the ESS Sabres give you, then keep the 105.
post #7901 of 16416
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Originally Posted by shedlerman View Post

Sorry for crossposts.
I have Focal-Mblad Pprofile 928 Diamond.
As can I see from your post, if DAC in Onkyo better than DAC in Oppo, i need 103, if no 105.
Than question wich DAC is better for my setup and speakers?
Thanks.

I'm a big proponent of calling Oppo for questions like this. Call them and give them the lowdown of your system, and they will give you answer on what you need. Given the DAC quality in your Onkyo, and listening habits, they will render their verdict. Most 95/105 owners fall into the "analog for music, HDMI for movie" camp. I never listen to music outside of occasional Airplay, and wanted Audyssey, so their recommendation to go with the 103 was no surprise at all. As it would eventually turn out, I have the multichannel analog connected on the 103, and haven't even configured it yet. The 105 DACs would be sitting unused in my case. Asking Oppo's opinion saved me from spending an extra $700 for the 105, so I couldn't be happier.

Like I said, it really all depends on your listening habits, and your gear. I would completely recommend the 105 without hesitation to anyone that loves music, and/or with a non-HDMI processor.
post #7902 of 16416
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Originally Posted by shedlerman View Post

Good day!
I have a processor Onkyo PR-SC5509 and amplifier NAD M25
The processor have XLR inputs, but no outputs, the amplifier have not XSL inputs, to make direct from OPPO via XLR.
What is preferable to buy 105 ор 103 in these case? Is the sound quality difference on analog RCA between 103 and 105.
I listen SACD stereo, HD music, and films.
Thanks for advice.

NAD M25 3,000.00 wow!
does it rock
post #7903 of 16416
I suspect that 103 HDMI to your Onkyo will serve you very well.
post #7904 of 16416
About to pull the trigger on the BDP-103. If I buy direct from OPPO, I pay an additional $17 for shipping. If I buy thru Amazon, shipping is FREE. Will I still be just as covered - warranty wise - with a purchase thru Amazon as I would OPPO direct??? This seems like a no-brainer IMO...

Thanks in advance...

Toby
post #7905 of 16416
Unless you live in one of those states where Amazon is now charging sales tax. Then, Amazon might be more expensive.

The warranty is the same, regardless of whether it is Amazon or Oppo as the source since the warranty is provided by Oppo.
post #7906 of 16416
Been trying to watch Hemlock Grove o Netflix, after stopping each episode, I just get a black screen and the Oppo says "Netflix". Takes a power cycle to fix, pretty stupid...
post #7907 of 16416
I just took the plunge on the 103. This will be my first Oppo and the most expensive blu-ray player since the first Samsung BD player that came out where I believe I paid $579.00 (down from $999.00)? I bought it mainly for Source Direct and I hope I don't regret it?
post #7908 of 16416
^ One of the lasers on my Samsung bluray player crapped out, so a few discs are unreadable. You will love the 103.
post #7909 of 16416
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Originally Posted by AnnapolisSony View Post

About to pull the trigger on the BDP-103. If I buy direct from OPPO, I pay an additional $17 for shipping. If I buy thru Amazon, shipping is FREE. Will I still be just as covered - warranty wise - with a purchase thru Amazon as I would OPPO direct??? This seems like a no-brainer IMO...

Thanks in advance...

Toby

Only difference is if you buy direct from Oppo you will be registered as an owner, but you can do that on your own too. Oppo honors warranty regardless of where you buy it.
post #7910 of 16416
Would love some help with my Oppo 103 set up.

I am using the split hdmi configuration. Hdmi One is going to my Epson 8350. Got picture, no problem.
Set up with Split Av on the Oppo.

Hdmi two is going to my AVR (Yamaha RXA-800, XPA-5 amp). No sound at all.

Does in plug into Hdmi 1,2,3,4,5? Tried all of them, no sound.

I have 2 Hdmi out, plugged it in, no sound.

How does this work? The manual is shockingly bad, no description or anything. It does not make any sense how plugging into HDMI 1 or the other 4 will get sound from my PVR, Xbox, etc.

Would love an explanation. Thanks
post #7911 of 16416
Got sound working, changed to to LPCM. Plugged in to HDMI #4 on the back of my receiver. Works with Netflix/Bluray. Nothing shows up on the screen when I change to my PVR, but I hear the sound.
post #7912 of 16416
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Would love some help with my Oppo 103 set up.

I am using the split hdmi configuration. Hdmi One is going to my Epson 8350. Got picture, no problem.
Set up with Split Av on the Oppo.

Hdmi two is going to my AVR (Yamaha RXA-800, XPA-5 amp). No sound at all.

Does in plug into Hdmi 1,2,3,4,5? Tried all of them, no sound.

I have 2 Hdmi out, plugged it in, no sound.

How does this work? The manual is shockingly bad, no description or anything. It does not make any sense how plugging into HDMI 1 or the other 4 will get sound from my PVR, Xbox, etc.

Would love an explanation. Thanks

Are you new to your Yamaha AVR? It sounds like you have things configured properly on the 103. Just make sure you didn't accidentally use the 103s HDMI "input" as an "output".

Have you configured each of your AVRs HDMI inputs "1, 2, 3, 4, 5" etc to their respective component selections? I'm not claiming to know anything about your specific AVR yet that could be required. As you're probably thinking, this should not be too difficult.

As for your no picture from your "PVR": do you also have an HDMI cable from your AVRs monitor out or HDMI out going to your Epson as well?
post #7913 of 16416
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Got sound working, changed to to LPCM. Plugged in to HDMI #4 on the back of my receiver. Works with Netflix/Bluray. Nothing shows up on the screen when I change to my PVR, but I hear the sound.
You are expecting something on the screen when you "change to your PVR"? What are you saying... that you have your PVR routed through the HDMI input of the 103?

If so, in order to actually use your PVR as input you must push the INPUT button on the 103's remote (second button from the top-right) and then navigate down to "HDMI on back" and push OK. Otherwise, the default state of the 103 is for simple use as a BluRay player, using its own transport.

Each time you power on the 103, if you want to view external input through the 103's HDMI inputs you need to use the INPUT button on the remote to select front or back HDMI inputs.
post #7914 of 16416
Thanks DSperber:
Did the input as suggest, nothing on screen, audio only. (No input signal)

Something is not being communicated, maybe I do not understand.

Video connected to HDMI one.

For HDMI 2, what am I connecting to on my AVR?

I have my PVR, Xbox, and AppleTV connected to my AVR as well. How do I make this all work?
With my Oppo on, I can view Netflix, Bluray. I cannot get the PVR etc to show anything.

I can move the video Hdmi back to the video out on the AVR, and everything works as it normally did, but I am not using the video processor on the Oppo.
Changing input on Oppo does not do anything.
I thought when doing the split Hdmi, I was passing the audio through my AVR, and can use the other things connected to it as well.
What am I missing?

Thanks
post #7915 of 16416
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Thanks DSperber:
Did the input as suggest, nothing on screen, audio only. (No input signal)

Something is not being communicated, maybe I do not understand.

Video connected to HDMI one.

For HDMI 2, what am I connecting to on my AVR?

I have my PVR, Xbox, and AppleTV connected to my AVR as well. How do I make this all work?
With my Oppo on, I can view Netflix, Bluray. I cannot get the PVR etc to show anything.

I can move the video Hdmi back to the video out on the AVR, and everything works as it normally did, but I am not using the video processor on the Oppo.
Changing input on Oppo does not do anything.
I thought when doing the split Hdmi, I was passing the audio through my AVR, and can use the other things connected to it as well.
What am I missing?

Thanks

Did you connect your AVR to your PJ via HDMI?? You mention your OPPO is connected to your PJ and you get video yet have you connected your AVR to the PJ as well via HDMI??? - That way the components connected via HDMI to your AVR can be displayed through the AVR to the PJ....
post #7916 of 16416
KJSmitty, I have one hdmi going from my projector. Do I need to running 2 hdmi? One going to hdmi one on the Oppo, and the other one to the hdmi out on my AVR?
Thanks
post #7917 of 16416
EDIT: The below fixed itself somehow after some restarts etc, but only setting i changed was split A/v and it wasn't the problem cause i changed it back and the dish box is still working thru the 103.

Maybe i am crazy but I thought I had my dish 722 satellite box hooked up to to HDMI/ML on the front of the 103 and working to the TV. I was playing around about 2 weeks ago and hooked the dish box up straight to the tv instead of thru the 103.
Sometime after I updated to the beta firmware and probably changed a bunch of settings.

Now i have hooked the Dish box back up to the 103 and only the oppo home screen shows on the tv when I am expecting to see my Dish box feed.
To troubleshoot i have tried three different hdmi cables to both 103 inputs and made very sure i had the 103 input source correct, turned on and off both the dish box and 103 numerous times.
Any trouble shooting ideas?
Edited by winston99 - 4/19/13 at 11:06pm
post #7918 of 16416
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Thanks DSperber:
Did the input as suggest, nothing on screen, audio only. (No input signal)

I have my PVR, Xbox, and AppleTV connected to my AVR as well.
You hadn't clearly described your setup, and in particular the words "input" and "output" are very helpful in describing interconnects from one device to another.

If you didn't connect your PVR's HDMI output to the external HDMI input on the 103, then there is obviously no purpose to using the 103's input selector button to select either its front or back external HDMI input.

You've now explained that you have your other source devices connected through your AVR (not to the 103), which is the normal way to do things.

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Something is not being communicated, maybe I do not understand.
It's pretty straightforward. If you want to feed the HDMI output from your AVR to one HDMI input of your HDTV, that's fine. Whatever HDMI source devices you have going into inputs on your AVR will be processed by your AVR for both sound and video. Sound will come out your speakers managed by the AVR, and video will be sent on to that HDMI input on your HDTV. And your HDTV must have its input selector set to that HDMI input which receives the HDMI video output coming from your AVR for these other HDMI audio/video sources going directly into your AVR.

Now if you also want to feed the 103 directly to your HDTV, you're obviously going to have to use a second HDMI input on the HDTV. And in order to see the video coming from the 103 on that second HDMI input you'll have to use the input selector on the HDTV to select that second HDMI input, when you want to watch anything coming from the 103... i.e. BluRay movies, or Netflix etc. That's for video, coming out of the HDMI-1 output on the 103 and going to that second HDMI input on the HDTV, for video-only out of the 103.

At the same time, HDMI-2 output from the 103 goes to another HDMI input on your AVR, specifically for sound-only sent from the 103 to the AVR for feeding to your speakers. So in order to hear sound from the 103 through the AVR and to the speakers, whenever you're using the 103 as a source device (with video-only going from the 103 out HDMI-1 and to that second HDMI input on your HDTV, which has its input selector set to that second HDMI input), you then set your AVR to pick up that [fourth] HDMI input (from HDMI-2 audio-only out of the 103, to HDMI-4 into your AVR).

So your AVR is getting audio-only from HDMI-2 out of the 103 on the AVR's HDMI-4 input, to feed the speakers when using the 103 as source for BluRay movies or Netflix. And at the same time, HDMI-1 out 103 is delivering video-only directly to the second input on your HDTV which has its input selector set to display that second HDMI input.
post #7919 of 16416
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Originally Posted by anthonywoy View Post

Got sound working, changed to to LPCM. Plugged in to HDMI #4 on the back of my receiver. Works with Netflix/Bluray. Nothing shows up on the screen when I change to my PVR, but I hear the sound.
See my post above, to clarify things for you hopefully.

But setting the audio output from the 103 to LPCM shouldn't have made any difference since your Yamaha AVR will accept either bitstream (i.e. still encoded DD5.1 sound) or LPCM (i.e. decoded discrete channel PCM) as audio input.

I believe this is what your "topology" should look like, assuming (a) your 103 is set up for "Split A/V" which is designed to deliver video-only out HDMI-1 and audio-only out HDMI-2, and (b) you are NOT currently using the external HDMI inputs on the 103 for feeding any of your other source devices through the 103 to take advantage of its video processing. Instead, your other source devices (e.g. PVR) are still going directly into the HDMI inputs on your AVR just as they always were.

103: HDMI-1 out -> HDMI input 2 on your HDTV, so that 103 delivers its video-only (from BluRay or Netflix) directly to this second HDMI input on your HDTV; HDMI-2 (for audio-only) out -> HDMI input 4 on your AVR, to deliver audio from the 103 to the AVR for sound and speakers managed by the AVR.

AVR: HDMI-1 input, HDMI-2 input, HDMI-3 input, from your existing three HDMI source devices (i.e. no change here). HDMI-4 input now is fed from HDMI-2 output from the 103. HDMI output from your AVR -> HDMI input 1 on your HDTV.

When you want to watch one of the other three source devices fed directly through the the AVR, you set the HDTV to have its HDMI input 1 selected (being fed from HDMI output from the AVR). Sound comes from the three source devices through the AVR and to the speakers.

When you want to watch BluRay movies or Netflix (both coming from the 103 for video), you set the HDTV to have its HDMI input 2 selected (being fed from HDMI-1 output from the 103). Sound goes from the 103's HDMI-2 output to HDMI 4 input into the AVR, for processing and feeding to the speakers. Doesn't matter if the 103 delivers LPCM (which means the 103 does the DD5.1 decoding) or bitrstream (which means the AVR does the DD5.1 decoding). And naturally in order to hear sound you'll have to set the AVR to have its HDMI 4 input selected (i.e. for the audio-only feed coming from HDMI-2 out of the 103).
post #7920 of 16416
Thanks, I think I understand. I will need to get a second HDMI to run from my Epson 8350.
According to what you are saying, my PVR is running from my receiver as it always did, but I was looking to use the Oppo is upscale my TV material, as I have read it is able to. I am only getting the Qdeo upscaler from the Bluray or streamed material. This is where my confusion is.

From Home Theater review

"One of the things Oppo has been known for over the years is its outstanding implementation of various video processing solutions. Oppo uses its expertise in this area and those HDMI inputs to differentiate itself from the masses and allow users to connect other source components such as a TV set-top box, mobile phone, or camcorder to the player in order to utilize its superior video processing."

This is one reason I bought the Oppo, was to use the Qdeo to upscale TV from my PVR. I do not see this in what you are said.

Researching some info, do I need to connect my PVR to the Oppo HDMI input at the back? I thought I could upconvert any video, but it seems in will do only one source? How do I get sound if I connect my PVR to the input at the back of the Oppo?

Manual has no info that I could see on any this, nothing on their website.
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