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post #8311 of 16439
K i have got my wife picking this up as we speak it is a display model for 499 is it worth it? He stated it has a small scratch other than that great condition and everything that is suppose to be in the box is. Would you all get this? Also if i have this and the 103 how would i run wiring from the 80" to get best picture with direct tv and from the player?
post #8312 of 16439
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Originally Posted by jboileau View Post

Did you warn your wife of your forthcoming sleep deprivation? biggrin.gif

Hahah yeah she knows, good thing it's the weekend ! biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR View Post

Congrats!

Thx man !

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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

Congratulations! I know I'm loving mine and learning more about it all the time. Tonight I'm going to try my first USB MKV movie to see how it works...

Thx, that's one of the main reason I got the 103 - I wanna rip all my BDs into MKV, retaining the BD quality, and transfer it all to a 4TB USB hard drive to connect to the Oppo. That's my next project, I've never ripped any movies before so I need to look into things first. My main concern is retaining the BD quality, I don't care how much space it takes..

Enjoy your movie tonight ! Can't wait to install mine, probably after the hockey game tonight so a late night is in order I think !

! GO SENS !
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post #8313 of 16439
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Originally Posted by RON82ND View Post

K i have got my wife picking this up as we speak it is a display model for 499 is it worth it? He stated it has a small scratch other than that great condition and everything that is suppose to be in the box is. Would you all get this? Also if i have this and the 103 how would i run wiring from the 80" to get best picture with direct tv and from the player?
Picking what up? An AVR? Which one? I alway buy last years model, after the current model reaches the market. If you're talking about an AVR, if it has a normal warranty, you should be fine.

I don't ever think of running wiring from a display to anything. wink.gif

I would, depending on the unknown AVR, run high speed HDMI from the OPPO (set to output 1080p 60 Hrz) to the AVR. I would do the same for cable or satellite (set to output native), and let the AVR convert your TV signal to 1080p 60Hrz. With the OPPO you can try running your cable/satellite box (set to output native) through the OPPO's HDMI inputs if you think it's going to do the conversion to 1080p better than the AVR. There are many other options, but that's where I would start. Then use another high speed HDMI cable to connect your AVR to the TV.

Eventually you should use the setup that looks the best to you.
Edited by htwaits - 5/3/13 at 3:25pm
post #8314 of 16439
All of a sudden I am having problems with wireless. Was working flawlessly last few months. Now it does't want to connect (sometimes it does after a very long time). I have changed nothing (Same router, same router firmware , same 103 firmware). Every other device on my network (phones, computers and even my TV) connect perfectly to my router. This has been very furstating as I play network media files heavily. Could this be a problem with wireless stick? Any ideas on how to identify where the problem is?

Thanks,
MSR
post #8315 of 16439
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Originally Posted by RON82ND View Post

OK I have got my wife picking this up as we speak. It is a display model for $499. Is it worth it? He stated it has a small scratch. Other than that great condition and everything that is supposed to be in the box is. Would you all get this?

Yes, I would get it. Amazon is selling them for over $1200! I'd look out one thing: it is either the store demo (as your post seems to say) or a return. Some folks have had a problem with the Pioneer making a "buzzing" sound (transformer buzz) and a few have been returned. Be aware that it has a fan in it and some slight noise could be normal. But remember; it is COSTCO. If anything is wrong, or even if not, just bring it back and look for another store. Go on the Pioneer thread I told you about and talk to the folks there. This isn't the best place, You found me here just by luck. This will be a great match for your new Oppo! I've had more problem with the Oppo than the Pioneer.
post #8316 of 16439
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Originally Posted by biliam1982 View Post

Can anyone comment on the 103's Audio/Video streaming quality?
The quality is fine, but the execution is suspect. There have been too many times to count, that I've tried to connect, and the 103 couldn't. I'd then try my Panny BDT220 and it would connect fine. I now have a Roku 3, and it's better than the 103, and the Panny. Hopefully the new software will fix the problem.
Edited by Hi Deaf - 5/3/13 at 4:57pm
post #8317 of 16439
Thread Starter 
Release date: May 3, 2013
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP10X-50-0422
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B1000 (BDP-103), 7B1000 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-01113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

This release is for the OPPO BDP-103 and BDP-105 Blu-ray Disc players.

Special Notice:
  1. Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
  2. Due to the extensive changes in this major firmware update, it is required that the user performs a "Reset Factory Defaults" operation after the firmware is installed. Please write down your special settings before doing this, and remember to re-apply your settings and adjust the proper volume level (if applicable) before you play any content. You may experience stability issues if this step is not performed.
  3. The new decoder firmware supplied by our chip vendor tightens the validation check for the AVCHD file format. If the files in the BDMV folder do not fully comply with the AVCHD specification, the folder will not play. (For example, if the files are from a disc backup instead of an original AVCHD recording, the player will reject it.)

This version is based on the latest Public Beta release version BDP10X-50-0323B. Comparing to the previous Official release version BDP10X-38-1220, the major changes included in this version are:


1. Added support for Direct Stream Digital (DSD) file playback from local storage. The DSD files can be either stereo or multi-channel. Both the DFF and the DSF formats are supported. (The channel mapping error reported in the beta firmware that affects PCM conversion of multi-channel DSD file has been corrected in this official release.)
2. Added support for CUE file playback. This function can be applied to music files on local storage and supported audio formats include FLAC, WAV, APE and MP3.
3. Added a feature that allows the creation of playlists while accessing music files from local USB storage. When navigating these music files, pressing the OPTION button will bring up a menu with a prompt to either "Add to playlist" or "Goto playlist". The created playlist file is stored within the local USB storage, inside "OPPO_Media_Info/playlist".
4. Added support for the AIFF audio format. (Standard AIFF files are supported. AIFF files with AIFF-C/sowt encoding generated by Mac OS X are not supported.)
5. Added support for the ExFAT file system.
6. Added additional Crossover Frequency selections (50, 70, 130, 140 and 160Hz) in "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing"->"Crossover".
7. Added a feature that allows the user to decide which mode (Auto, Film and Video) to use when performing video de-interlacing. This can be set in "Setup Menu"->"Video Setup" -> "HDMI Options"->"De-interlacing Mode".
8. Added DMR Seek capability, so the user can drag the progress bar on the DMC side and adjust the media file playback progress on the player.
9. Resolved the HDMI high bit-rate (HBR) audio loss issue with Yamaha RX-V673, V773, A820 and A1020 AV Receivers. Customers have reported that when sending DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD signals in "Bitstream" mode through HDMI to these Yamaha receivers, any signal interruption (resolution change, source selection, etc.) will cause Yamaha to display "Audio Decoder OFF" on the front panel and produce no sound from the speakers. This issue has been resolved.
10. Resolved a recently reported FLAC file playback issue. Some FLAC files made from the latest version of the EAC (Exact Audio Copy) software tool could not be played on the BDP-103/105 players. This issue has been resolved.
11. Improved the down-mixing algorithm for the BDP-105's headphone output. This results in better volume and sound staging when playing certain multi-channel audio sources.
  • This change takes advantage of the main audio DSP (digital signal processor) that is normally assigned to the multi-channel analog output. When headphones are connected, the multi-channel analog output is muted and the DSP is temporarily reconfigured for stereo down-mixing, and its output is routed to the headphone amplifier. Please do not try to adjust the player's audio processing settings while the headphones are plugged in, as these settings are only temporarily used and will be restored to the user's original settings when the headphones are removed.
12. Added a feature that allows the adjustment of the audio delay time within the range of -100ms to +100ms. This can be set in "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing" -> "A/V Sync", and the delayed time will be applied to all output terminals including HDMI 1 and 2, Coaxial, Optical, and 7.1 outputs (including the Stereo outputs of the BDP-105).
  • The actual audio delay effect might be different for each of the output terminals due to the different audio process algorithms and signal paths used for each output. Please adjust this setting based on the actual output terminal in use.
  • The negative adjustment values are for cancelling out the audio delay that the player automatically applies. Depending on the video source and the time it takes to process the video, the main decoder chip automatically applies an audio delay in order to optimize audio video synchronization. The negative manual settings reduce the automatic audio delay, while the positive manual settings apply additional delay. Any negative value setting beyond the player's automatic delay will be treated as completely cancelling the automatic delay. For example, if the "A/V Sync" value is manually set to -100ms and for the current video source the player applies a 70ms automatic audio delay, the final result is that the 70ms audio delay gets cancelled and the audio is not delayed at all. It is not possible to put audio ahead of video using this setting.
  • For content sent through HDMI IN, the "A/V Sync" adjustment only works with positive values.
13. Resolved the brief audio pop issue found on the 7.1 and Stereo audio outputs. This popping noise could happen when the player is processing content from a television cable box (through the HDMI inputs), and when channels are switched on the cable box. This issue has been resolved.
14. Added basic support for a USB keyboard. Some of the supported keys and their functions are:
  • Numerical keyboard: if Num Lock is turned on, functions as Numerical buttons; if Num Lock is turned off, functions as navigation buttons ("2", "4", "6", "8").
  • ARROW buttons (UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT): functions as navigation buttons.
  • HOME button: functions as HOME button.
  • END button: functions as STOP button.
  • Page Up/Down buttons: functions as PAGE UP/DOWN buttons.
  • ESC button: functions as RETURN button.
  • ENTER button: functions as ENTER button.
  • SPACE button: insert a space between characters on the soft keyboard.
15. Improved compatibility with some cable TV boxes, especially from Motorola. Customers have reported that HDMI handshake failures (such as blank green screens, flickering images, and frequent audio drops) could happen when these TV boxes were connected to the HDMI IN port (Front and Back). This issue has been significantly improved in this firmware. (We are aware of an occasional frame drop and audio/video synchronization issue that may still happen when accepting 480i, 576i or 1080i signals from certain cable boxes, and are working to resolve it in a future firmware version.)
16. Improved the support for large capacity external hard drives. The maximum size for a single partition can be up to 16 TB when using GPT partition table and NTFS or ExFAT file system.
17. Improved the digital audio compatibility with the Apple Airport Express (2nd Generation). Customers have reported that frequent audio dropouts were heard on BDP-105's analog audio outputs (both 7.1 and Stereo) when accepting a digital audio signal from the Airport Express 2's optical audio out. With this firmware, the audio dropouts have been eliminated or significantly reduced.
18. Removed a limitation in "Audio Processing"->"Speaker Configuration", that turns off the SBL and SBR speakers automatically when the Center speaker is set to "Off". However, if the SL and the SR speakers are set to "Off", the SBL and the SBR speakers will still be muted.
19. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.[/list]

Special Note: This firmware will fix issues related to Netflix streaming in the previous 50-0323B Firmware and will also make it more stable in general. Highly recommend using this firmware if you are a heavy Netflix user.
Edited by Neuromancer - 5/3/13 at 5:03pm
post #8318 of 16439
I have strange problem with .dsf files playback. When I use HDMI 1 output, the center channel definitelly plays in SL channel, I'm not sure about other. When I play same file through HDMI 2 output, channels played in correct order. Both output connected to same Pioneer VSX-1020 receiver, so when I switch inputs on Pioneer from HDMI 2 to HDMI 1, the voice moves from center speaker to SL speaker. This happens only for rips from Phantom of the Opera original Soundtrack SACD and all tracks have same problem. The player is Oppo BDP-103 with latest beta firmware, I did Factory reset after installing firmware. Other settings are: SACD playback - multichannel, SACD output format - DSD, HDMI sound format - bitstream, Dual HDMI - duplicate video. The Pioneer receiver is capable to decode DSD signal, but this signal arrives only from HDMI 2 Oppo output, from HDMI 1 output Receiver shows PCM signal, as supposed to be. If somebody interested to test, I can upload .dsf file somewhere, hovewever, this will be 436 MB.
post #8319 of 16439
K so i got home and have direct tv ran to rear hd input and hd 2 to old reciever and hd 1 to tv and it is causing stuttering what do I do here fellas? I have native set on direct.
post #8320 of 16439
Downloaded and will test tonight.
post #8321 of 16439
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Originally Posted by pav56 View Post

I have strange problem with .dsf files playback. When I use HDMI 1 output, the center channel definitelly plays in SL channel, I'm not sure about other. When I play same file through HDMI 2 output, channels played in correct order. Both output connected to same Pioneer VSX-1020 receiver, so when I switch inputs on Pioneer from HDMI 2 to HDMI 1, the voice moves from center speaker to SL speaker. This happens only for rips from Phantom of the Opera original Soundtrack SACD and all tracks have same problem. The player is Oppo BDP-103 with latest beta firmware, I did Factory reset after installing firmware. Other settings are: SACD playback - multichannel, SACD output format - DSD, HDMI sound format - bitstream, Dual HDMI - duplicate video. The Pioneer receiver is capable to decode DSD signal, but this signal arrives only from HDMI 2 Oppo output, from HDMI 1 output Receiver shows PCM signal, as supposed to be. If somebody interested to test, I can upload .dsf file somewhere, hovewever, this will be 436 MB.

Just found, "The channel mapping error reported in the beta firmware that affects PCM conversion of multi-channel DSD file has been corrected in this official release."
post #8322 of 16439
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Originally Posted by RON82ND View Post

K so i got home and have direct tv ran to rear hd input and hd 2 to old reciever and hd 1 to tv and it is causing stuttering what do I do here fellas? I have native set on direct.

Is this a new problem in your setup?

This update has actually made using the HDMI inputs worse for me. Prior to the update(using the beta) I could switch to PCM on my Tivo 4 and have zero video problems. Which told me the issue was tied to Dolby Digital as others have reported. Now after watching 720p I get video stuttering and what looks to be deinterlacing issues on the scrolling ESPN bar even on PCM. I haven't tried 1080i yet but it doesn't look promising. Strange this about this is that it takes at least 15 minutes of watching the same resolution for the issue to appear. Back with my previous Motorola it appeared right sway and was more drastic. I will report the issues to Oppo again.
post #8323 of 16439
I just got this plugged it in and updated watching first movie as we speak no issues in picture stuttering for blu ray however it still does it for direct tv box. Also I have a cheap htib by lg and when I try to use the surround all I hear is the background no speech weird. What is up with this?
post #8324 of 16439
The issue with 1080i cable to the hdmi input annd claymation issues occurring when the audio switches from 5.1 to 2.0 back to 5.1, has that been resolved in the recent firmware?
post #8325 of 16439
Thread Starter 
Not fixed. OPPO has isolated the error but it is NOT fixed in this firmware.
post #8326 of 16439
Thank you. I am currently using beta and using the lpcm 2.0 workaround. Should I just go ahead and upgrade to the official?
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

Thank you. I am currently using beta and using the lpcm 2.0 workaround. Should I just go ahead and upgrade to the official?

I would say no. You might end up with new issues like I did. Although mine could be a new 720p thing as I have to do more testing
post #8328 of 16439
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

Is this a new problem in your setup?

This update has actually made using the HDMI inputs worse for me. Prior to the update(using the beta) I could switch to PCM on my Tivo 4 and have zero video problems. Which told me the issue was tied to Dolby Digital as others have reported. Now after watching 720p I get video stuttering and what looks to be deinterlacing issues on the scrolling ESPN bar even on PCM. I haven't tried 1080i yet but it doesn't look promising. Strange this about this is that it takes at least 15 minutes of watching the same resolution for the issue to appear. Back with my previous Motorola it appeared right sway and was more drastic. I will report the issues to Oppo again.

Ouch...appears I should just stick with beta and stay with the PCM 2.0 trick. Thanks for your report, appreciate you helping me save another round of headaches.
post #8329 of 16439
Where is the removal of the ability to play BDMV folders? I don't see it listed there anymore in the beta or the new release.
post #8330 of 16439
^ Special Notice #3.
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

^ Special Notice #3.

Thanks. I am officially done with firmware updates then.
post #8332 of 16439
Man I just got my Oppo 103 today, haven't opened the box yet.. I wonder what version FW I'll have on it
post #8333 of 16439
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR View Post

I was watching Avatar 2D Bluray on my 103 with the latest available official software last night, and around 3/4's the way through on a chapter I believe called "I see you" I lost audio. I've never had that happen, and the only way I could get it back was to stop the movie and restart/resume it. Not sure what the issue is, but I've watched this movie before on the PS3 and I know I didn't see it then. Guess I'll just have to watch it again sometime and see if the same thing occurs.
I've had this happen twice. Can't remember the movie I was watching the first time (about a month ago) but two days ago was about three quarters through The Boat when audio disappeared. I hit the fast forward button and hit play after a few seconds and the audio was back and was fine the rest of the way. Some sort of gremlin perhaps (though I am using the Onkyo 5507 pre/pro). Only two times it's happened since I got the 103.
post #8334 of 16439
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

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I would say no. You might end up with new issues like I did. Although mine could be a new 720p thing as I have to do more testing

Arghhh. 1080i also has the same video playback issues after staying on a 1080i channel. 1 step forward 2 steps back. Please Oppo contact a Marvell, DVDO or Lumagen engineer to see how to properly display an image from a source input. The main reason I bought this player was for that function. I have my computer connected to my system so I wasn't interested in all of the audio functions that most discuss here. I sold my DVDO Edge to fund the purchase of the 103 and boy do I miss it right now. Yes I do believe Oppo will fix this it is just a matter of when.
post #8335 of 16439
For anybody, who interested, there is a simple program which makes BDMV (not 3D) playable by BDP-103 with new firmware (tested with latest official for "movie only" BDMV, not tested for BDMV with menus and extras). All you need is create AVCHD folder, put BDMV folder in AVCHD folder and run the program (program will modify only index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv files) I'm not sure, can I post direct download link and instructions here?
post #8336 of 16439
I've searched this on here and web but I guess my wording is giving me way too many results to read through and reviews I've read don't cover it. Simple question really just haven't found an answer

Is audio from the hdmi inputs routed to the digital outs that I can send to my preamp?

Thanks
post #8337 of 16439
^ Yes.
--Bob
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Thank you very much
post #8339 of 16439
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Originally Posted by pav56 View Post

For anybody, who interested, there is a simple program which makes BDMV (not 3D) playable by BDP-103 with new firmware (tested with latest official for "movie only" BDMV, not tested for BDMV with menus and extras). All you need is create AVCHD folder, put BDMV folder in AVCHD folder and run the program (program will modify only index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv files) I'm not sure, can I post direct download link and instructions here?

I believe we've mentioned tsMuxeR here before, if that is what you have in mind. You might post comments to the this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1336046/ripping-blu-rays-ii and direct anyone who is interested to that posting.

-Bill
post #8340 of 16439
I got a Oppo-103. I recently bought a 4 pack of WWII Blu-Ray's (Patton; The Longest Day, Tora, Tora, Tora and The Sand Pebbles). They are from 20th Century Fox. Three of them play fine. One of them won't load. It just goes to chapter 1 and counts to 6 and stops. Screen is blank. My firmware is up to date and I even cleared out the Persistent Storage and turned off the BDLive....nada! Thinking it was the blu-ray, I returned it. The store plopped it in their player and it played! They agreed to give me another brand new 4 pack. I went home and the same blu-ray STILL won't play so I know it isn't the disk!!! It's driving me nuts!!! HELP! I have 100 blu-ray's and this is the only disk that does this!

Anybody have an issue like this?
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