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post #8701 of 16407
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I guess I am a Philistine to some of you sophisticates. As much as I admire the many things the 103 can do and which have been discussed at length here, I have mine connected to my AV receiver through HDMI 1 and have all the audio and video settings set to their defaults. I have loved the way the 103 has made both my BDs and DVDs look and sound.
I hope you realize that there are a few settings that most people use that have nothing to do with the chip fuss that's going on now. You are probably in the OPPO owner's majority by a large margin. wink.gif

The recommended settings are in the FAQ, which is linked at the top of post number one.
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I do have a question that somebody here can probably answer: what audio setting should I use to allow my Yamaha RX-V3900 receiver to handle the decoding of lossless audio from a BD? I now have the 103's audio set for bitstream, which as I understand it uses the 103 to decode the audio stream.
:You've got the answer already, but I want to add one more item. The only difference between having the OPPO convert lossless bitstream to lossless LPCM is that your AVR will be able to display the input codec on it's screen. There are some peculiar problems that sometimes crop up that can be solved by switching your audio output to LPCM. Almost all the time it makes no difference.
Edited by htwaits - 5/12/13 at 3:55pm
post #8702 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Blu_One View Post

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Originally Posted by Barrettmr View Post

Is this the users thread or the designers thread, seems all you lot wanna talk about is the bloody chips inside the box.... How about some help on using the 103! I am trying to figure out if and how I can use the 103 to stream HD (bluray rips). I have heard MKV is the best format but did that change with the latest firmware (may) update? and how does one set that up end to end (IE what do I need on my Windows 7 PC etc.)

Thanks!

Calm down buddy - we're discussing the chip inside the OPPO 103.

To each their own.

Thx
Yes, but because this topic seems to be new to you and old to the thread, there is no reason for others not to object to it taking over the thread. There is a forum dedicated to video processing. You might find a wider group with as much interest in this topic as you. Try it. You might like it. smile.gif
post #8703 of 16407
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Yes, but because this topic seems to be new to you and old to the thread, there is no reason for others not to object to it taking over the thread. There is a forum dedicated to video processing. You might find a wider group with as much interest in this topic as you. Try it. You might like it. smile.gif

I know there is, I've been there, thx smile.gif. I maintain that members have a right to discuss what they wish, as long as its relevant to the title of the thread, which in this case it is.

I said I was going to let it go but another member asked a follow up question, I answered his question and left it at that.

Those not interested in this aspect of the Oppo 103 can simply skim through it, no big deal, no one owes this thread you know.
post #8704 of 16407
Well, my comment here is not a response to the above, just maybe poor timing- though personally I like the chip talk a lot more than the network stuff. When I replaced my 83 with the 103, I did the dual hdmi route and was quite happy with the results. Video went to the TV via hdmi 1, audio went to my Yamaha 663 via hdmi 2. I bought a Pioneer 1522 last week and set it up so that everything went to the Pioneer, then the TV. No more dual. Still using hdmi 1 for the out. However, reading here about the fact that I might be over-processing the video signal by using two chips (Oppo and Pioneer), and noticing how sharp the edges were on most faces from BD, I decided to try running out of Oppo's hdmi 2. At first I wasn't sure I liked it, but after a day I came around to it. Everything still seemed sharp, but appreciably smoother. More movie-like, with less edge sharpness. I haven't tried any SD discs yet, will be curious to see how they play, but so far I'm really liking hdmi 2.
post #8705 of 16407
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Question regarding low subwoofer sounds while listening to SACDs or 2 Channel music through the 103. I have connected the 103 to the Pioneer Elite SC-07 by using RCA plugs (LEFT/RIGHT). I am NOT using HDMI cable for connection.

Am I suppose to set something within the 103 to boost more Bass while listening to SACD 2 channel music?

Within the SC-07 receiver, I have the 2 front LEFT/RIGHT speaker set to Small and the Subwoofer set to "Yes". But I do not hear much Bass from my subwoofer. Would it make a huge Bass improvement if I were to set the LEFT/RIGHT speaker to LARGE and set the subwoofer to PLUS within the receiver?

Also, within the SC-07, there is a Bass Management setting to +10dB. Should I turn ON the +10dB setting?

I am not hearing very much Bass from my subwoofer but it is working, just not loud enough. I did the Auto Calibration a few times already but still very low bass for music.

Thanks for any advice!!

2-channel SACD does not have an LFE channel so there is no specific subwoofer output. If you have a subwoofer in your setup, the Oppo should be set to stereo downmix. If I remember correctly, for SACD you do not need the bass boost since SACD handles bass differently. If I am wrong, Bob Pariseau (our resident expert on all things bass-settings-wise with respect to Oppo players) will, I am sure, provide the proper info.
post #8706 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Barrettmr View Post

I have heard MKV is the best format but did that change with the latest firmware (may) update?

No change.
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and how does one set that up end to end (IE what do I need on my Windows 7 PC etc.)

Big topic. You can use SMB or DLNA.

Try the FAQ for DLNA suggestions. Everyone reports quick success with Twonky..

SMB is built in to Windows but people often struggle with security settings.

-Bill
post #8707 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Blu_One View Post

I maintain that members have a right to discuss what they wish, as long as its relevant to the title of the thread, which in this case it is.

The policy on all the OPPO owners threads has been "technical Q&A, this model only".

Off topic would be: why does OPPO do this or not do that, what would I like in a future player, etc.

If you have questions we'll try to help. If you can help others, please do so. Theoretical discourse belongs elsewhere.

Too much off-topic and we resort to the red flag.

-Bill
post #8708 of 16407
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Originally Posted by petercw2 View Post

Apologies in advance, but I'm at a loss.

Despite reading through a lot of this massive thread I am still having issues trying to use a copy of the AVS709 calibration data.

Now, I unfortunately updated my firmware just as I was going to try this, so part of what is complicating my issue is that I don't know if I'm simply not burning the correct file to a DVD-R, or if what I am experiencing is the issue created with the firmware update.

I have burned the .iso file that is created after decompressing the HDMV-2d.7z file. Putting that .iso on a disc and trying it in the player gives me nothing. I've tried burning the BDMV file that is created when I mount the .iso disc, but that doesn't work either.

I also have a 8gig thumb flash drive I could use, but all of the discussion here about these files now not being able to work on the 103 post upgrade I gave up on trying that.

If someone could point me to a step-by-step for Mac, that would be much appreciated.

The AVCHD version should work both on DVD and on USB. It is a legitimate AVCHD structure, not a BR backup, and so is not restricted.

The HDMV version will no longer work; BDMV is no longer allowed on DVD discs (a BDA rule; I don't know why they care) and that seems to cover HDMV as well.

-Bill
post #8709 of 16407
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

2-channel SACD does not have an LFE channel so there is no specific subwoofer output. If you have a subwoofer in your setup, the Oppo should be set to stereo downmix. If I remember correctly, for SACD you do not need the bass boost since SACD handles bass differently. If I am wrong, Bob Pariseau (our resident expert on all things bass-settings-wise with respect to Oppo players) will, I am sure, provide the proper info.


Thanks for the information!


About the latest firmware update. I am a little behind on the firmware update since 38-1220 version. Do I need to download version 50-0323 Beta Firmware and Official 50-0422 Firmware? Or can I just download the latest 50-0422 Firmware?

Let say if you miss 30 firmware updates, do you have to download all 30 updates or can you just skip all the rest and download the latest update?
post #8710 of 16407
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Question regarding low subwoofer sounds while listening to SACDs or 2 Channel music through the 103. I have connected the 103 to the Pioneer Elite SC-07 by using RCA plugs (LEFT/RIGHT). I am NOT using HDMI cable for connection.

Am I suppose to set something within the 103 to boost more Bass while listening to SACD 2 channel music?

Within the SC-07 receiver, I have the 2 front LEFT/RIGHT speaker set to Small and the Subwoofer set to "Yes". But I do not hear much Bass from my subwoofer. Would it make a huge Bass improvement if I were to set the LEFT/RIGHT speaker to LARGE and set the subwoofer to PLUS within the receiver?

Also, within the SC-07, there is a Bass Management setting to +10dB. Should I turn ON the +10dB setting?

I am not hearing very much Bass from my subwoofer but it is working, just not loud enough. I did the Auto Calibration a few times already but still very low bass for music.

Thanks for any advice!!

So you are using just the LF/RF output jacks of the multi-channel Analog output set of the 103, correct?

OK, in the 103, set SACD Output PCM, and in the Speaker Configuration portion make sure both LF and RF are set to LARGE. Also set DTS Neo:6 Mode OFF. Again, these are settings IN THE OPPO. This insures that all of the bass content on disc for the Left and Right channels is output on those two outputs -- none is steered to the Oppo's Subwoofer output.

Next, while playing your SACD, check the music display screen put up by the OPPO to make sure you are playing the Stereo track from that SACD. If you are playing the 5.1 track, press the Audio button to switch -- you can also set the Stereo track as the default choice for SACD playback in the Setup menu.

That's it for the OPPO side. Any other adjustments would be in your Pioneer -- e.g., enabling its subwoofer output if you want and making sure that's at the right volume level.
--Bob
post #8711 of 16407
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

About the latest firmware update. I am a little behind on the firmware update since 38-1220 version. Do I need to download version 50-0323 Beta Firmware and Official 50-0422 Firmware? Or can I just download the latest 50-0422 Firmware?

Let say if you miss 30 firmware updates, do you have to download all 30 updates or can you just skip all the rest and download the latest update?

You just need to install the latest update.
--Bob
post #8712 of 16407
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The policy on all the OPPO owners threads has been "technical Q&A, this model only".

Off topic would be: why does OPPO do this or not do that, what would I like in a future player, etc.

If you have questions we'll try to help. If you can help others, please do so. Theoretical discourse belongs elsewhere.

Too much off-topic and we resort to the red flag.

-Bill

Ok gotcha, thx Bill.

Like I said I'm done addressing this chip issue, love the Oppo biggrin.gif
post #8713 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

So you are using just the LF/RF output jacks of the multi-channel Analog output set of the 103, correct?

OK, in the 103, set SACD Output PCM, and in the Speaker Configuration portion make sure both LF and RF are set to LARGE. Also set DTS Neo:6 Mode OFF. Again, these are settings IN THE OPPO. This insures that all of the bass content on disc for the Left and Right channels is output on those two outputs -- none is steered to the Oppo's Subwoofer output.

Next, while playing your SACD, check the music display screen put up by the OPPO to make sure you are playing the Stereo track from that SACD. If you are playing the 5.1 track, press the Audio button to switch -- you can also set the Stereo track as the default choice for SACD playback in the Setup menu.

That's it for the OPPO side. Any other adjustments would be in your Pioneer -- e.g., enabling its subwoofer output if you want and making sure that's at the right volume level.
--Bob



Thanks Bob!!

I will give that a try tonight.
post #8714 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You just need to install the latest update.
--Bob

Thanks Bob!!

It's a good thing we don't have to download 30 updates!!!!!!
post #8715 of 16407
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post


About the latest firmware update. I am a little behind on the firmware update since 38-1220 version. Do I need to download version 50-0323 Beta Firmware and Official 50-0422 Firmware? Or can I just download the latest 50-0422 Firmware?

Let say if you miss 30 firmware updates, do you have to download all 30 updates or can you just skip all the rest and download the latest update?
The latest firmware is always complete, and will bring you all the way to the current version. Just be sure that you have all the files.
post #8716 of 16407
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No change.


Big topic. You can use SMB or DLNA.

Try the FAQ for DLNA suggestions. Everyone reports quick success with Twonky..

SMB is built in to Windows but people often struggle with security settings.

-Bill
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Thanks Bill, I'll do some research on Twonky... I thought HD (bluray) backups would only work in a certain way with the oppo 103, just trying to figure out how to do it as I can't find all the information in one place! It sounded like there was a loophole that got closed with the may firmware. Would love to read through the FAQ for DLNA (guessing that's a threat on AVS? link to point me in the right direction?

Thanks again :-)
post #8717 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Barrettmr View Post

Thanks Bill, I'll do some research on Twonky... I thought HD (bluray) backups would only work in a certain way with the oppo 103, just trying to figure out how to do it as I can't find all the information in one place! It sounded like there was a loophole that got closed with the may firmware. Would love to read through the FAQ for DLNA (guessing that's a threat on AVS? link to point me in the right direction?

Thanks again :-)

The OPPO FAQs are listed in my signature.

MKV is still good, plays on local storage, or over DLNA or SMB.

You might have a look at this topic in the BDP-93 FAQ, an overview of formats and tools: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

-Bill
post #8718 of 16407
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Originally Posted by snoobley View Post

Netflix has been really glitchy on this player. I'll click to play something and it starts to buffer and then the screen just goes black and I have to turn the power off. Also sometimes when starting up netflix it says it failed to connect. Either of these will happen almost every other time I try to use netflix. For the a $500 blu ray player this is unacceptable.

And what happens if you try to get Netflix through your computer through the same router? If it is still glitchy, then it is your Internet provider and/or the possibility that your connection is too slow.
post #8719 of 16407
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Originally Posted by snoobley View Post

Netflix has been really glitchy on this player. I'll click to play something and it starts to buffer and then the screen just goes black and I have to turn the power off. Also sometimes when starting up netflix it says it failed to connect. Either of these will happen almost every other time I try to use netflix. For the a $500 blu ray player this is unacceptable.

1st: Please make your findings known to Oppo support.

2nd: As a work around, try setting your router to use Google DNS servers, (8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4). That helps with this issue.
post #8720 of 16407
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The AVCHD version should work both on DVD and on USB. It is a legitimate AVCHD structure, not a BR backup, and so is not restricted.

The HDMV version will no longer work; BDMV is no longer allowed on DVD discs (a BDA rule; I don't know why they care) and that seems to cover HDMV as well.

-Bill

So, I copied that HDMV-2d/z7 file onto a 87gig flash. Decompressed it and got the .iso file. When I put the drive into the front USB on the Oppo, the player "sees" it and says "USB front" (i think).. but when I go to the movie, pic or music sections it is unseen.

suggestions? thanks again.
post #8721 of 16407
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Well...

I suppose I should defer to the high end audio guys. But...

Call me a skeptic. I find it hard to believe that there can be a discernible auible difference (if any at all) between original CD and ripped WAV so significant that it would be described as a "quantum leap". Presumably they are essentially (if not exactly) bit-for-bit identical, assuming the rip is "verified".

So what technical explanation could there possibly be for ANY audible difference, in the D-to-A conversion of a bit-for-bit identical stream??

Similarly with FLAC vs. WAV, assuming the FLAC version is created from the WAV which is identical to the original CD track. One is a "zip" of the other, and are in fact bit-for-bit identical once the FLAC file is "un-zipped". So assuming the playback of FLAC means (a) "un-zip" to WAV, and then (b) play that now internal WAV file which is bit-for-bit identical to the original WAV file from which the FLAC file was "zipped" to compress it, how could there objectively be any audible difference whatsoever when playing FLAC vs. WAV?


Now if there is a problem relating to CD's, where the transport mechanism reading the laser holes is poor quality, or a poor disc goes through error-recovery and interpolation or whatever, well then I suppose the audible quality of playback direct from CD might be "variable", and not necessarily "perfect" as obviously reading those theoretically identical but possibly different bits from a solid-state device would provide, as presumably the solid-state device would always provide 100% perfect data streams and never have any error-recovery and algorithms involved to "vary" the resulting sound.

Granted, I've never done any nor have I read about any serious A/B-comparisons, so I'm not claiming to have any objective "peer-reviewed research" to base my statements on. It's simply intuition, based on common sense and fundamental understanding of the underlying "what's really going on here".

So if you know of any non-anecdotal genuine "peer-reviewed scientific research or studies" where FLAC vs. WAV can be shown to "sound different", or that WAV vs. CD is "quantum leap" different, I'd very much like to read it. Again, because playing a CD involves a mechanical factor, and laser pickup quality, and in a sense first A-to-D step is involved to a degree, I'm certainly willing to believe that a low-end CD player/transport source device might theoretically be proven to "sound slightly different" than a high-end CD player/transport or a solid-state WAV source device. But I'm sure that difference would be "subtle, though discernible"... rather than "quantum leap". Of course maybe I'm wrong, and a $100,000 transport has got to sound "much better" than a $500 consumer player.


Anyway, I'd like to read more about "objective studies" on this general subject, if you can point me to them.

In the meantime I will be very happy to play my FLAC collection (including benefiting from its metadata tags, so that imbedded album art and tag info is displayed on the TV screen when playing FLAC music) via 103. I also play my FLAC collection from my super-sounding 96GB Cowon J3 music player through my car's wonderful AUX sound system, and it sounds wonderful... to me sounding just like playing the original CD's on the car's system (which I no longer have to carry around).

Note: this is not an argument involving lossy MP3 encoding and defenses of LAME or anything else involving A/B blind testing and "can you discern a difference between that excellent MP3 encode and the original WAV"? I'm not arguing the parameters for a high-quality (but still lossy) MP3 encode. I'm not defending MP3. I'm simply questioning how or why (with technical and objective justification) why FLAC and WAV (both solid-state, with one just a lossless compress of the other) should sound ANY different?


So, for the moment... I'm still a skeptic.

I would suggest taking the time you took to try and refute the ears of a musician and someone who has been involved with audio since the late 60's and perform the experiment. The wave file on a USB sounds eminently more life-like and musical than the sound directly from the CD. Same player, same CD, a simple pushing of button on the remote to switch. Duplicatable and obvious...There is nothing wrong with my EAC or wave or flac converters. I will add that my system speakers are very capable of full reproduction, Apogee Duetta Signatures. I guess you missed the part about a major recording engineer discussing the sonic differences which led to be the trial. Again, try it, and then tell me what you hear~
post #8722 of 16407
Mine does the same thing. This only started after applying the latest firmware update. I would be more upset if I didn't have other means of seeing Netflix.

I can stream Netflix from both my Roku or Apple TV without any issues biggrin.gif I'll just patiently wait for the next firmware update.
post #8723 of 16407
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The ABT chip is no more. SI acquired the technologies and trademarks. Much like Panasonic acquired "Kuro" from Pioneer and failed to deliver on anything like a Kuro display.....
--Bob

I don't have first hand experience of SI's VRS chips but their DVDO brand processors appear to continue to use VRS technology. Their marketing suggests the SIL9612 and SIL9696 video processing chips continue offer VRS capability with SI appearing to be adding features i.e. 4k2k scaling.

http://www.siliconimage.com/Company/News_and_Events/Press_Releases/2012_10_1_Silicon_Image_Announces_New_Video_Processors_for_Next-Generation_Home_Theater_Applications/

I guess the "ABT" brand products have changed in a similar way to Silicon Optix and Gennum. Silicon Optix IP continues to be offered by IDT after they acquired certain IP i.e. Reon etc. IIRC this acquisition didn't include Realta IP which was owned by another company i.e. Teranex ?. I believe Sigma continue to market products based on Gennum IP. Hence it may no longer be possible to buy an "ABT" , "Silicon Optix" or "Gennum" branded chip but that doesn't necessarily mean the benefit of the original IP is lost.
Edited by dazzerxxx - 5/13/13 at 1:20am
post #8724 of 16407
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Originally Posted by 117olddude View Post

Well, my comment here is not a response to the above, just maybe poor timing- though personally I like the chip talk a lot more than the network stuff. When I replaced my 83 with the 103, I did the dual hdmi route and was quite happy with the results. Video went to the TV via hdmi 1, audio went to my Yamaha 663 via hdmi 2. I bought a Pioneer 1522 last week and set it up so that everything went to the Pioneer, then the TV. No more dual. Still using hdmi 1 for the out. However, reading here about the fact that I might be over-processing the video signal by using two chips (Oppo and Pioneer), and noticing how sharp the edges were on most faces from BD, I decided to try running out of Oppo's hdmi 2. At first I wasn't sure I liked it, but after a day I came around to it. Everything still seemed sharp, but appreciably smoother. More movie-like, with less edge sharpness. I haven't tried any SD discs yet, will be curious to see how they play, but so far I'm really liking hdmi 2.

Good thing you turned off the processing because you were definitely applying it twice. Your Pioneer 1522 has the Marvell QDEO chip in it. Not sure if it's the same as the one in the Oppo 103, but I would assume it is. Although the chip implementation might be different (it should be better and provide more user options in an AVR than a BDP).

You can use HDMI 1 on the Oppo as long as you make sure that your Pioneer AVR is set to Direct Passthrough Mode (no processing applied). Or keep it the way you have it now, HDMI 2 on the Oppo and processing on in the AVR, but this depends on the output resolution you selected in the Oppo.

For example for BDs, I would suggest that you're Pioneer AVR should always be in Direct Passthrough Mode, you don't need to apply anything further to a 1080p signal coming out of the Oppo, if you are, you're over processing again.

As you mentioned in your post, you've seen the effects of that.. (over-processing a signal).


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Originally Posted by dazzerxxx View Post

I don't have first hand experience of SI's VRS chips but their DVDO brand processors appear to continue to use VRS technology. Their marketing suggests the SIL9612 and SIL9696 video processing chips continue offer VRS capability with SI appearing to be adding features i.e. 4k2k scaling.

http://www.siliconimage.com/Company/News_and_Events/Press_Releases/2012_10_1_Silicon_Image_Announces_New_Video_Processors_for_Next-Generation_Home_Theater_Applications/

I guess the "ABT" brand products have changed in a similar way to Silicon Optix and Gennum. Silicon Optix IP continues to be offered by IDT after they acquired certain IP i.e. Reon etc. IIRC this acquisition didn't include Realta IP which was owned by another company i.e. Teranex ?. I believe Sigma continue to market products based on Gennum IP. Hence it may no longer be possible to buy an "ABT" , "Silicon Optix" or "Gennum" branded chip but that doesn't necessarily mean the benefit of the original IP is lost.

Yeah, they're out there... the core IP isn't new, but it's still the best along with HQV biggrin.gif

The Realta chip built on the Teranex infrastructure. wow cool.gifbiggrin.gif I don't think we'll ever see anything like that down the road again because we would have seen it by now imo, that's too bad mad.gif
post #8725 of 16407
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

That depends on whether you think your AVR or the 103 will do the best job with DVD sources. I use these settings with an OPPO 93.

TV Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Wide/Auto
Output Resolution: 1080p
1080P24 Output:: OFF

On your Oppo 93, with the settings above for SD-DVD, are you using HDMI1 or HDMI2?

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Originally Posted by 117olddude View Post

I just got the Pioneer SC-1522-K receiver from Costco (thanks to those who pointed out the great pricing!) and am replacing my Yamaha V-663. I had the 103 dual HDMI out setup, with HDMI 1 going to my Samsung 46 LCD. Anyone here using the Pioneer (it's the same as an Elite SL-65)? I'm thinking of going the single HDMI 1 to receiver to TV route. I believe I can do a pass thru to get the AV signal through to the TV without the receiver adding anything. Is there anyone here who's tried this with success? I've also been running LPCM out of the 103. I may try going back to bitstream and see what the Pioneer does to it (the Yamaha had a few issues). The Yamaha was at least four years old, and not top of the line, and the Pioneer seems to be pretty much up-to-date. I'm going to get a 3D TV within the year and wanted to be able to use a more modern receiver with it. And a new toy is always fun.

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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I guess I am a Philistine to some of you sophisticates. As much as I admire the many things the 103 can do and which have been discussed at length here, I have mine connected to my AV receiver through HDMI 1 and have all the audio and video settings set to their defaults. I have loved the way the 103 has made both my BDs and DVDs look and sound.

I do have a question that somebody here can probably answer: what audio setting should I use to allow my Yamaha RX-V3900 receiver to handle the decoding of lossless audio from a BD? I now have the 103's audio set for bitstream, which as I understand it uses the 103 to decode the audio stream.

For both of you running the Oppo 103 to an AVR, you should make sure that your AVR is set to Direct Passthrough Mode (no processing) for BDs, and for DVD's if the processing is done by the Oppo. Alternatively, you can set the Oppo to output Source Direct and select a processing mode in your AVR. One of those two options is what I would suggest in order to avoid double processing. For the member above with the Yamaha receiver with the HQV Vida chip, I would suggest outputting DVD's from the Oppo in Source Direct and using the HQV chip in your Yamaha do to the processing cool.gif. You can always try letting the Oppo outpout DVD's at 1080p, turn off the Vida in your Yamaha (Direct Passthrough mode), and see which one of the two you like better.. then let me know wink.gif


Here's an interesting thread by an AVS member who did his own testing with various video processing chips we've been discussing, including the Marvell QDEO chip found in the 93/103. Far from a scientific methodology but somewhat interesting nevertheless:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1408842/my-new-project-qdeo-vs-hqv-vida-vs-reon-1080p-upscaling
post #8726 of 16407
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Originally Posted by petercw2 View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The AVCHD version should work both on DVD and on USB. It is a legitimate AVCHD structure, not a BR backup, and so is not restricted.

The HDMV version will no longer work; BDMV is no longer allowed on DVD discs (a BDA rule; I don't know why they care) and that seems to cover HDMV as well.

-Bill

So, I copied that HDMV-2d/z7 file onto a 87gig flash. Decompressed it and got the .iso file. When I put the drive into the front USB on the Oppo, the player "sees" it and says "USB front" (i think).. but when I go to the movie, pic or music sections it is unseen.

suggestions? thanks again.

The player won't see any ISO files. Not supported.

You need the AVCHD version. You can burn the ISO as a disc image to a DVD, then copy the results to a USB stick. (Or, if you know how to mount an ISO image loopback on your PC, you could open the ISO and copy the contents directly).

There is a thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration that should have instructions on making a disc.

-Bill
post #8727 of 16407
Hi All,

I have been using Wifi N to stream MKV and some low bit rate Bluray via SMB and it generally works fine with few stuttering. Yesterday, I decided to wire an ethernet cable, about 25 feet long from my bedroom down to the living room where the 103 is located, but for the life of me, I can't even get MKV files to stream without stutter let alone Bluray. With Wifi, I get no stutter even when the bit rate is over 30Mbps, but with ethernet, the video stutters when the bit rate is over 15Mbps.

I have tried wiring the ethernet cable crossover, straight-through T568A and T568B, but same thing. Except for T568B wiring, all the wiring methods can connects to my laptop at 1Gbps using the same cable. For some odd reason, T568B wiring would only connect to the laptop at 10Mbps and sometime 100Mbps using the same cable. I also tried using a different cable about 50 feet long and it's much much worse - Bluray basically play in slow motion at something like 1fps.

To rule out the router, I bypassed my Asus router and connected the cable directly to a Westel DSL modem/router, but same thing. I also used another DSL modem/router as a switch/hub to connect the long cable and then a short 4 feet cable from the 103 to the switch/hub, but again it made very little difference. Connected this way, it can kind of play the main menu with some stutter, but is still far slower than when using Wifi-N.

The only thing I haven't tried is reflashing the firmware. I have also tried resetting the player to factory settings, unplugged the power and set the IP address manually. I can't verify, but I think the player probably only connect at 10Mbps and not 100Mbps. Kind of disappointed that Oppo does not support 1Gbps ethernet as it would allow for much faster and smoother fast forwarding and when viewing pictures, even though max bitrate of Bluray is only half of what the Oppo support. Using January 2013 firmware.

Is my player defective?

Thanks.
post #8728 of 16407
Quote:
Originally Posted by Votinh View Post

Hi All,

I have been using Wifi N to stream MKV and some low bit rate Bluray via SMB and it generally works fine with few stuttering. Yesterday, I decided to wire an ethernet cable, about 25 feet long from my bedroom down to the living room where the 103 is located, but for the life of me, I can't even get MKV files to stream without stutter let alone Bluray. With Wifi, I get no stutter even when the bit rate is over 30Mbps, but with ethernet, the video stutters when the bit rate is over 15Mbps.

I have tried wiring the ethernet cable crossover, straight-through T568A and T568B, but same thing. Except for T568B wiring, all the wiring methods can connects to my laptop at 1Gbps using the same cable. For some odd reason, T568B wiring would only connect to the laptop at 10Mbps and sometime 100Mbps using the same cable. I also tried using a different cable about 50 feet long and it's much much worse - Bluray basically play in slow motion at something like 1fps.

To rule out the router, I bypassed my Asus router and connected the cable directly to a Westel DSL modem/router, but same thing. I also used another DSL modem/router as a switch/hub to connect the long cable and then a short 4 feet cable from the 103 to the switch/hub, but again it made very little difference. Connected this way, it can kind of play the main menu with some stutter, but is still far slower than when using Wifi-N.

The only thing I haven't tried is reflashing the firmware. I have also tried resetting the player to factory settings, unplugged the power and set the IP address manually. I can't verify, but I think the player probably only connect at 10Mbps and not 100Mbps. Kind of disappointed that Oppo does not support 1Gbps ethernet as it would allow for much faster and smoother fast forwarding and when viewing pictures, even though max bitrate of Bluray is only half of what the Oppo support. Using January 2013 firmware.

Is my player defective?

Thanks.

The defect is in your network, not the player. It's also possible that the laptop itself has a questionable network interface.
post #8729 of 16407
I sent two issues I found to Oppo but haven't heard back yet and am curious if anyone else has experienced them.

1) Switching to the second audio track locks up the player and requires turning it off and back on to restore usability. The conditions for this are playing MKVs, via DLNA or SMB, that have multiple audio tracks. In my case the MKV has a primary DTS track and a secondary track that is DTS-HD MA. The player locks up after attempting to switch to the 2nd audio track. It actually switches successfully for about 3-5 seconds and then locks up. This happens regardless of output set to Auto, LPCM or Bitstream. I have no issues playing MKVs with DTS-HD MA as the primary track.

2) SMB credentials not remembered. I temporarily set up a second server with SMB access for some testing. Switching between the servers required that re-enter my credentials even though they're the same on each one which seems fine as I'm sure the player is server-based since my servers are NOT on a domain. Now, though, I'm no longer using my test server. Every time I turn on the player and navigate to my server, it fails to log in with the "saved" credentials and I have type them in all over again. What's strange is that it won't accept the user name if I type it in the log in screen directly, however, it will accept it if I enter the user name in the keyboard input screen. This particular issue seems to be only related to the user name and not the password. Once I log in, it'll work fine until I turn off the player.

I didn't have these issues in the previous official firmware but do now in the most recent. Anyone else experiencing this?
post #8730 of 16407
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No, other way around. With LPCM the player decodes, with Bitstream it sends the raw audio to the AVR for decoding.

Bill -- Thanks. Upon further investigation I have discovered that Oppo's implementation of the Bitstream setting is just what I need. I wanted a setting that would allow my receiver to display the information when one of the HD audio formats was being received. On my old PS3, the Bitstream setting does not pass that information to the receiver. All the receiver knows is that it is receiving a PCM stream. Anyway, I now know that my 103 is not so limited so I am a happy camper.
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