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post #8851 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Boston007 View Post

I will try doing the X-X-Region from the home screen. The instructions stated to do it on the Setup screen.

It works from the Setup screen (that is how I have my Harmony One sequence setup). Make sure Auto Play is turned off and that the disc tray is empty and closed before running the X-X-Region sequence.
post #8852 of 16358
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Originally Posted by cdittmer View Post

It works from the Setup screen (that is how I have my Harmony One sequence setup). Make sure Auto Play is turned off and that the disc tray is empty and closed before running the X-X-Region sequence.

Tried all of that and it did not work.

I'll try re-installing that firmware tonight.
Thanks
post #8853 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

Myself and others have already reported it to oppo from the beta so they are aware, but please send in the report so they have it. They also acknowledge in the official firmware they are aware of the issue but currently don't have a fix but plan in by the next firmware.

If you would like a current work around, you can set your cable box to output lpcm 2.0.

Thanks...and I'll send the report in.
post #8854 of 16358
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I have an ancient postit note in my brain: "Don't buy anything called MyBook". I don't remember why, probably an irrational prejudice.

I have a couple of WD MyBook hard drives. One is a 1TB AVR extender for my TiVo Series3 and the other is a 3TB that I bought to store ripped movie files and backups from my computers. Both are more than two years old and have been as stable as light switches. I bought the 1TB drive because it was designed for use with the TiVo and got the 3TB because of positive feedback posted by buyers on the Amazon site, where I bought it. That said, I have heard some scare stories about some of the WD MyBook lineup but my two haven't given me a minute's trouble.
post #8855 of 16358
I've just played some 7.1Ch PCM 'Speaker Mapping Test Files' with firmware 0422. And although the playback of .M2TS contained files are correctly mapped. The same cannot be said for .MKV contained files or elementary 7.1Ch PCM.WAV contained files.

By contrast, when the same files are played on my computer using LAV filters (and passed to my Onkyo amp via HDMI), everything appears to be correct.

Is anybody else able to confirm?
post #8856 of 16358
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

I've just played some 7.1Ch PCM 'Speaker Mapping Test Files' with firmware 0422. And although the playback of .M2TS contained files are correctly mapped. The same cannot be said for .MKV contained files or elementary 7.1Ch PCM.WAV contained files.

By contrast, when the same files are played on my computer using LAV filters (and passed to my Onkyo amp via HDMI), everything appears to be correct.

Is anybody else able to confirm?

5.1 WAV channel mapping is fine, (as is FLAC and DSD). I don't have any 7.1 files to test with.
post #8857 of 16358
Recent posts talking about the difficulty some posters have been having updating the firmware for their bluraychip Pro Mod kits encourages me to ask if any of you 103 owners are using the JVB Digital all regions mod kit for the 103? I have been using mine regularly for the past three weeks. It has worked perfectly since Oppo's May firmware update for the 103 and was also perfect before that. It does appear that the bluraychip Pro Mod does a little more than the JVB Digital all regions mod does, so perhaps that is the reason the bluraychip version required a firmware update of its own to accommodate the Oppo firmware update, although the JVB Digital chip works with either version of the Oppo software. Does anybody know anything definitive about this?
post #8858 of 16358
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

5.1 WAV channel mapping is fine, (as is FLAC and DSD). I don't have any 7.1 files to test with.
Agreed... I can confirm that 5.1Ch mapping is fine for all audio file formats placed within all supporting containers...
post #8859 of 16358
Just curious. I see a lot of chatter here about all-region mod chips. Do you folks just happen to have a lot of discs you bought while living overseas or am I missing something? Is there anything better about non-American releases? The only disc on my wish list is "The Victors" which has never been released in the US for some reason but I think has been in Europe. I'd be tempted to install the mod just to get that disc.
post #8860 of 16358
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Recent posts talking about the difficulty some posters have been having updating the firmware for their bluraychip Pro Mod kits encourages me to ask if any of you 103 owners are using the JVB Digital all regions mod kit for the 103? I have been using mine regularly for the past three weeks. It has worked perfectly since Oppo's May firmware update for the 103 and was also perfect before that. It does appear that the bluraychip Pro Mod does a little more than the JVB Digital all regions mod does, so perhaps that is the reason the bluraychip version required a firmware update of its own to accommodate the Oppo firmware update, although the JVB Digital chip works with either version of the Oppo software. Does anybody know anything definitive about this?

I have the JVB Digital mod and it has worked flawlessly before and after installation of the new fw update - although I was a bit apprehensive before installing it due to the extensive changes included in the update. One important thing to note is that the JVB Digital mod will not work if the Standby Mode is set to "Quick Start" - apparently because the mod requires the player to be shut off after keying in the region change sequence and the Standby Mode will still provide current to parts of the player´s electronics (i.e. it is not switched off completely). The appropriate setting is "Energy Efficient".

Judging from previous posts on this and other forums, the Bluraychip Pro mod has always been sensitive to fw upgrades, and I personally do not feel it brings additional advantages which outweigh this sensitivity.
post #8861 of 16358
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

Just curious. I see a lot of chatter here about all-region mod chips. Do you folks just happen to have a lot of discs you bought while living overseas or am I missing something? Is there anything better about non-American releases? The only disc on my wish list is "The Victors" which has never been released in the US for some reason but I think has been in Europe. I'd be tempted to install the mod just to get that disc.
I don't have a modified player, but there are a lot of reasons that others to have them.

The movie industry has divided up the world into zones to give themselves a greater measure of control over the marketing of their products. People just don't live by those boundaries. For instance many countries have movie industries that produce movies that aren't introduced into the US/Canada market. If you want to see one of those movies, you need a player that can override the boundaries. Some movies are no longer available in the US/Canada market. "The African Queen" was in that category for a long time, but it was available in Europe. Sometimes movies have been edited for a given zone, and there are those who want to see the movie as it was intended. That can mean crossing the border to another zone. It goes on and on, and don't you dare make a backup of the movie you just bought, because your congressman has already been bought by industry interests. eek.gif

I think that there are some Japanese releases that have been considered better than the US/Canada release.

A lot of people living overseas do so right here in the US. wink.gif
Edited by htwaits - 5/15/13 at 1:37pm
post #8862 of 16358
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

Just curious. I see a lot of chatter here about all-region mod chips. Do you folks just happen to have a lot of discs you bought while living overseas or am I missing something? Is there anything better about non-American releases? The only disc on my wish list is "The Victors" which has never been released in the US for some reason but I think has been in Europe. I'd be tempted to install the mod just to get that disc.

htwaits has mentioned some very good reasons, my own personal ones are disks that are not available in the US and may never be, just to list two:

El Cid and The Fall of the Roman Empire (not that I have a HUGE crush on Sophia Loren or anything).

Cleopatra is just about to be released in the US, but has been available in the UK for a while.
post #8863 of 16358
Some other reasons: there are some discs that available outside the U.S. months before they appear in North America.
Sometimes there are special editions with desirable packaging or extras that only show up in some parts of the world.
Many classic American films have a bigger following outside the U.S. than in it and are thus available when they wouldn't be otherwise obtainable.
post #8864 of 16358
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

Just curious. I see a lot of chatter here about all-region mod chips. Do you folks just happen to have a lot of discs you bought while living overseas or am I missing something? Is there anything better about non-American releases? The only disc on my wish list is "The Victors" which has never been released in the US for some reason but I think has been in Europe. I'd be tempted to install the mod just to get that disc.

For us in Europe, it would be impossible to enjoy the material issued by some US niche labels, for instance Criterion and Kino, without the benefit of region-free mods (or incurring the not inconsiderable expense of also buying a Region A Oppo player). The same of course applies correspondingly to US customers wishing to be able to play discs from European quality labels such as Masters of Cinema.
post #8865 of 16358
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

Just curious. I see a lot of chatter here about all-region mod chips. Do you folks just happen to have a lot of discs you bought while living overseas or am I missing something? Is there anything better about non-American releases? The only disc on my wish list is "The Victors" which has never been released in the US for some reason but I think has been in Europe. I'd be tempted to install the mod just to get that disc.

For us in Europe, it would be impossible to enjoy the material issued by some US niche labels, for instance Criterion and Kino, without the benefit of region-free mods (or incurring the not inconsiderable expense of also buying a Region A Oppo player). The same of course applies correspondingly to US customers wishing to be able to play discs from European quality labels such as Masters of Cinema.
Does anyone believe that the financial powers in the movie industry are movie fans? wink.gif

It might make a difference if they were.
post #8866 of 16358
Thank you all for the info. You've given me something to think about. I'll have to start researching a chip I can add here at home. And then maybe I can find "The Victors." I can be a world citizen right here in California!
post #8867 of 16358
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

I've just played some 7.1Ch PCM 'Speaker Mapping Test Files' with firmware 0422. And although the playback of .M2TS contained files are correctly mapped. The same cannot be said for .MKV contained files or elementary 7.1Ch PCM.WAV contained files.

By contrast, when the same files are played on my computer using LAV filters (and passed to my Onkyo amp via HDMI), everything appears to be correct.

Is anybody else able to confirm?

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

5.1 WAV channel mapping is fine, (as is FLAC and DSD). I don't have any 7.1 files to test with.

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Agreed... I can confirm that 5.1Ch mapping is fine for all audio file formats placed within all supporting containers...

I got curious and came up with this test file:

http://www.jensign.com/bdp95/7dot1voiced/

the Oppo seems to be handling this file OK.
post #8868 of 16358
5/15/13 Just unpacked my refurb'ed103 ($419.00) ordered 5/9/13 and to my surprise it came loaded with firmware 38-1220 so I can play my SACD-R/DVD-A iso's wooooooooooooooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very happy camper here!
Awesome machine.
post #8869 of 16358
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Originally Posted by 3DFREAK View Post

5/15/13 Just unpacked my refurb'ed103 ($419.00) ordered 5/9/13 and to my surprise it came loaded with firmware 38-1220 so I can play my SACD-R/DVD-A iso's wooooooooooooooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very happy camper here!
Awesome machine.

Does your player have a refurb sticker on it?
post #8870 of 16358
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Originally Posted by 3DFREAK View Post

5/15/13 Just unpacked my refurb'ed103 ($419.00) ordered 5/9/13 and to my surprise it came loaded with firmware 38-1220 so I can play my SACD-R/DVD-A iso's wooooooooooooooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very happy camper here!
Awesome machine.

Huh? How is that possible (playing DVD-A ISOs)?
post #8871 of 16358
Amazon has a PAL DVD of the Victors for about 9.5 pounds. Region 2. Too bad it's not Bluray, they often will play on the Oppo with no problem (I have a handful of European BDs that play fine on the 83/103 but that I can't buy in America). No streaming option offered that I could see.
post #8872 of 16358
Nevermind. Apparently type of USB drive does matter. I used an old Scandisk drive and it worked, unlike the brand new Kingston.
Edited by RayJG - 5/15/13 at 10:30pm
post #8873 of 16358
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Originally Posted by 3DFREAK View Post

it came loaded with firmware 38-1220 so I can play my SACD-R/DVD-A iso's wooooooooooooooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky you! smile.gif

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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Huh? How is that possible (playing DVD-A ISOs)?

Yes, that`s possible. Even still with the new firmware.
post #8874 of 16358

^ ^ ^  Is this true with new FW?

post #8875 of 16358
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I have a couple of WD MyBook hard drives. One is a 1TB AVR extender for my TiVo Series3 and the other is a 3TB that I bought to store ripped movie files and backups from my computers. Both are more than two years old and have been as stable as light switches. I bought the 1TB drive because it was designed for use with the TiVo and got the 3TB because of positive feedback posted by buyers on the Amazon site, where I bought it. That said, I have heard some scare stories about some of the WD MyBook lineup but my two haven't given me a minute's trouble.

Day 2 with the 4TB WD MyBook USB hard drive - the whole thing is running smooth as silk cool.gif

4TB very far from being full at this point, but absolutely no issues with the 103 recognizing (now that I've installed the May 2013 FW update for the 103 wink.gif) the one partition 4TB drive. Playback of full passthrough rips in M2TS format, with DTS-HD Master Audio works Flawlessly biggrin.gif

Still need to rip lots of my other BDs, I had to add a 2TB hard drive to my PC today in order to make everything happen.. now I'm all set cool.gif
post #8876 of 16358
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Originally Posted by 3DFREAK View Post

5/15/13 Just unpacked my refurb'ed103 ($419.00) ordered 5/9/13 and to my surprise it came loaded with firmware 38-1220 so I can play my SACD-R/DVD-A iso's wooooooooooooooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very happy camper here!
Awesome machine.
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Huh? How is that possible (playing DVD-A ISOs)?
It's possible because firmware version 38-1220 was released, January 2, 2013. And the newer firmwares only affect playback of SACD-R.ISO files not DVD-A.ISO files...

EDIT: Opps... I missed Holzohr's post
post #8877 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Edmundo Lopez View Post

Does your player have a refurb sticker on it?

Nope I don't see a refurb sticker anywhere on it. Awesome machine!
post #8878 of 16358
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

For us in Europe, it would be impossible to enjoy the material issued by some US niche labels, for instance Criterion and Kino, without the benefit of region-free mods (or incurring the not inconsiderable expense of also buying a Region A Oppo player). The same of course applies correspondingly to US customers wishing to be able to play discs from European quality labels such as Masters of Cinema.

I have found that having an all regions chip, which gives me the option of playing Region B only BDs both saves money and broadens my choice of BDs. For example, I bought the UK editions of the BDs of both A Night to Remember (1958) and Powell and Pressburger's early classic, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943). These BDs each used the same transfer as was used on the Criterion Collection edition of each film. Although the UK editions of these films don't have as many extras as the Criterion editions, they were much cheaper, even with shipping costs added.

I also bought the UK edition of Series 3 of Downton Abbey and was able to watch it before Series 3 ran in the US. As other posters have pointed out, there are also available Region B only BDs of some terrific European series that aren't readily available in the US. Recently I bought from Amazon UK the BDs of the Danish version of The Killing. It is great television and, in my estimation, far superior to the US version, despite the need for subtitles. Is it any wonder then that when my first All Regions BD player died, I bought a 103 from Amazon and an all regions modification kit for it from JVB Digital? If I had done that in the first place, I wouldn't have wasted $200 on a BD player that World-Import could not repair and refused to replace, although it was in warranty.
post #8879 of 16358
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I have found that having an all regions chip, which gives me the option of playing Region B only BDs both saves money and broadens my choice of BDs. For example, I bought the UK editions of the BDs of both A Night to Remember (1958) and Powell and Pressburger's early classic, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943). These BDs each used the same transfer as was used on the Criterion Collection edition of each film. Although the UK editions of these films don't have as many extras as the Criterion editions, they were much cheaper, even with shipping costs added.

I also bought the UK edition of Series 3 of Downton Abbey and was able to watch it before Series 3 ran in the US. As other posters have pointed out, there are also available Region B only BDs of some terrific European series that aren't readily available in the US. Recently I bought from Amazon UK the BDs of the Danish version of The Killing. It is great television and, in my estimation, far superior to the US version, despite the need for subtitles. Is it any wonder then that when my first All Regions BD player died, I bought a 103 from Amazon and an all regions modification kit for it from JVB Digital? If I had done that in the first place, I wouldn't have wasted $200 on a BD player that World-Import could not repair and refused to replace, although it was in warranty.

I'm in with all the reasons members have given for being able to play region free. Let me add (I don't
think anyone has mentioned it yet) that for various reasons, a lot of films get released on blu-ray
in Europe and Japan, that never get blu-ray treatment here (or sometimes they come with better mastering,
and/or bonus features. There are lots of sites - including blu-ray.com, DVD Beaver and even right
here on AVS where you can read comparative reviews).

Just a few films I've gotten on Blu-Ray recently that don't exist at all on US blu-ray; The China Syndrome, Serpico,
Terms of Endearment, many of John Casavettes' films (Just released in beautiful new versions in the U.K. and
(with the same transfers, but fewer features -- in a terrific inexpensive German box set), the only blu-ray that
has The Last Emperor in it's correct theatrical aspect ratio (even the Criterion has the very strange 2:01
remastering that Vittorio Storaro loves, but looks quite odd to me and many others. He did the same thing on the
early "Apocalypse Now" blu-rays before Coppola overruled him and they went back to 2:35 for the latest excellent
US BR), many of David Lynch's films (be careful with these, some of the European pressings are less than great,
definitely look at reviews and forums, etc. etc.), David Cronenberg's Dead Ringers, etc.

There are also far superior Euro or Japan pressings for a lot of films. Just got Three Days of the Condor and The Graduate
in much better quality for example.

They can be ordered directly from Amazon UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Japan. Except for Japan
the shipping really isn't that bad at all. You often don't pay much, if any, more all in than you'd pay for a blu-ray
here, especially if you order several at a time so shipping can be combined. (You also almost always pay
about 10% less than the listed price, because VAT is removed for U.S. orders, helping to balance out the
higher shipping).

(One trick, Google's Chrome browser has a built in translator, so you can go to any of these sites, set it to
automatically translate, and it becomes almost as easy as shopping on Amazon here in the US. Works
great on all the European sites, still a bit hit and miss on Japan.)

Also, if you want to go the cheapest, easiest route to all region, on both my 93 and now on my 103 I got one
of the exterior mods. These mean you don't have to open the player at all, they can just plug into the rear
USB and 232 slot and you're good to go. They usually run between $60 and $80, and have both worked
well through all firmware updates so far. A/Bing, I can see no effect on PQ. I believe there are two sources
for these listed on the 103 FAQ post.
post #8880 of 16358
I've purchased the 3 Musketeers and the 4 Musketeers, Pulp Fiction, and Open Range from Europe, either via Amazon UK or eBay. All BD, all work fine on the Oppo with no mod kit. The Oppo will play PAL.
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