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post #9151 of 16446
When I push the Stop button on the remote control after listening to a CD, I can hear a Click sound coming from the speakers. Or after the CD is done, I will hear that Click sound from the speakers.

Anyone hear that Click sound as well?
Edited by mantaraydesign - 5/23/13 at 9:02pm
post #9152 of 16446
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Originally Posted by sspears View Post

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However if you are experiencing uneven movement where the movement is jerky, or tugging... looking like the movement starts and stops, or speeds up and slows down rapidly, then you may have an issue, but as long as the flashing "judder" is continuous at the frequency of the frame rate, you're probably just seeing the normal effect of fast moving images at 24 fps with no motion blur.

That is correct. The moving white bar is to look for tearing. The text, and bursts, are to look for consistent motion. If you see a tug, or jerk, something is going wrong. 24p has a fixed amount of judder. If you read the ASC book, you can only pan a camera so fast at 24p. The motion on this pattern moves faster than that.

The 24p motion can be improved with a display that has a true off state or uses something like black frame insertion. It can also look better with motion interpolation modes, but that changes the look, which is not something we find desirable.

Some displays assume the input will be 24 or 60 Hz and not 23.976 or 59.94. This will result in a glitch every n seconds. (16 in the 59.94 vs. 60 Hz case) Even though we say 24, 30, and 60, they are really 23.976, 29.97, and 59.94.

Hope this additional info helps.

 

Stacy:

 

Thanks for confirming to us what the exact purpose is for these tests. Since I was the one that first started this topic here after I had my display calibrated by David Abrams (AviCal) 2 days ago, I panicked when I read the notes that said that smooth motion is the desired goal and if that wasn't the case, then something is wrong. I think the notes should be clear on telling the user to observe for jerkiness or unevenness in motion in the test images.

 

The disk is great and will take me quite a while to understand what all the patterns mean for newbie videophiles such as myself.

 

Great work indeed and thanks for chiming in to our forum here ...

 

- David

post #9153 of 16446

What to make of a Blu-ray concert by SADE (Bring me home ... LIVE 2011) that won't play Bitstream (DTS-HD MA) but will play LPCM? Is the problem the Oppo or the disc. My Anthem D2v says "No Signal" on its inputs when the DTS track is selected so it seems the Oppo isn't sending the Bitstream track?

 

Doing the usual chicken-dance of powering up/down the Oppo and the Anthem doesn't help the situation...

 

BTW this BD is encoded in 24p and not the 60i for concerts(if that helps).

post #9154 of 16446
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What to make of a Blu-ray concert by SADE (Bring me home ... LIVE 2011) that won't play Bitstream (DTS-HD MA) but will play LPCM? Is the problem the Oppo or the disc. My Anthem D2v says "No Signal" on its inputs when the DTS track is selected so it seems the Oppo isn't sending the Bitstream track?

Doing the usual chicken-dance of powering up/down the Oppo and the Anthem doesn't help the situation...

BTW this BD is encoded in 24p and not the 60i for concerts(if that helps).

My 83SE plays it with no problem . Yes, it decodes it as DTS HD MA. Is the secondary audio of your OPPO disabled?
post #9155 of 16446
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

When I push the Stop button on the remote control after listening to a CD, I can hear a Click sound coming from the speakers. Or after the CD is done, I will hear that Click sound from the speakers.

Anyone hear that Click sound as well?

I noticed it too
post #9156 of 16446
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Originally Posted by prsut View Post

I noticed it too


I am thinking it is making that Click sound because of the latest software update.

I don't believe I heard that Click sound before after I listen to a CD. If you turn the Volume really high, you will hear that Click sound even better. Put your CD to the very last song wait until the song is over and come closer to either the LEFT or the RIGHT speaker. You will hear the Click sound right after the last song. The sound is either a Clicking sound or a Static Click sound. Kind of hard to explain. Even when you are playing a song and hit the Stop or Pause button on the remote, you can hear that strange Static Clicking sound as well.

I am using the RCA plugs (LEFT/RIGHT CD OUT) from the 103 to my receiver (CD IN). I listen to 2 Channel music.

So I tried a different CD player using the RCA plugs from the 103 to the receiver and I do not hear that Clicking sound. So it is the 103 that is making the Clicking sound when using the RCA plugs.
post #9157 of 16446
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What to make of a Blu-ray concert by SADE (Bring me home ... LIVE 2011) that won't play Bitstream (DTS-HD MA) but will play LPCM? Is the problem the Oppo or the disc. My Anthem D2v says "No Signal" on its inputs when the DTS track is selected so it seems the Oppo isn't sending the Bitstream track?

Doing the usual chicken-dance of powering up/down the Oppo and the Anthem doesn't help the situation...

BTW this BD is encoded in 24p and not the 60i for concerts(if that helps).

My 83SE plays it with no problem . Yes, it decodes it as DTS HD MA. Is the secondary audio of your OPPO disabled?

 

Yes, always....

post #9158 of 16446
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Originally Posted by MGbert View Post

Sorry for the noobie questions, but I'm having trouble finding this out by any other means. I'm really interested in one of these Oppo BDP-103's primarily as a Redbook CD transport, secondly as a digital music file (WAV files, mostly, on a USB hard drive) and thirdly as a DVD player. My only experience with an older Oppo was that the player would not play a Redbook CD gaplessly. I can understand it not supporting gapless as a file server, but that is a deal breaker if it can't do CDs gaplessly. Has Oppo fixed this in the 103, or is it still an issue?

And would anyone care to comment on the Oppo software as a file server for music files? Thanks for indulging me in my first posting here.

MGbert

Not sure how much help I can be, but regarding the music-file playback, here goes...

First off... I'm completely "old school". I'm not interested in Internet streaming of any kind, I don't want the Internet to automatically look up anything for me, and until this past week, I was an exclusively "shiny-disc" guy. So I don't feel any need to convert my film collection (~2000 discs) to any file format, and for music, I've never owned anything even remotely resembling an iPod. CDs (and .wav files burned onto them) played through an incredible home sound system, have worked perfectly well for me.

With the advent of the 103's newest firmware's ability to create a USB-drive "playlist", though, I started contemplating the convenience of such for music .wav-file playback... and ordered a 32GB thumb drive.

I should point out that my ultimate goal here was to be able to listen to specific albums or "mix" selections, and also to be able to create a "complete" playlist of 500 or 1,000 (or...) of my favorite tracks (using separate thumb-drives for each musical genre), which I could then have the Oppo play back, randomly shuffled.

Other than burning dozens and dozens of "mix" CDs, since I've never done anything quite like this before, it took me a few different attempts to figure out how to achieve the results I wanted, considering the limitations of the new playlist feature -- the major limitation being that you can only create ONE playlist, and (something that is unfortunately NOT documented) that that playlist can only hold a very limited number of entries.

As a first attempt, I created individual folders for each artist, with individual albums as sub-folders, containing only the tracks that I like. As a test, copying about fifteen artist's folders to the thumb-drive quickly revealed that this was not going to work. In the midst of creating an "all tracks" playlist, after entering about 70 tracks, I suddenly got a "Playlist is full" message.

What the...?

Thankfully, reverse-logic ended up working. I created a "Transfer" folder on my computer, and copied all of the individual tracks to it, with each track's title consisting of the artist's name, a number assigned to each of the artist's albums, a sequencing number for the track, and the track title; i.e., "Beatles2 - 03 Oh Darling". The complete list was then copied to the thumb drive.

This works perfectly. When I'm in the main track-list, pressing "Option" gives me the ability to either add selected tracks to the playlist, or to go to the playlist.

While in that main "complete" track listing, in order to use the "shuffle" function, first start the track playing, by clicking on it... but don't press the "Option" button yet. If you do, it only gives you the ability to add the track to the playlist, or to go to the playlist.

Once a track has been playing for a few seconds, the TV-screen display switches from the track list to a background photo, with the track info listed. THEN press the Option button, which gives you the ability to initiate "Shuffle" or "Random", and "Repeat", as well as "Add To" or "Goto" Playlist.

That's pretty much it... although for those with Internet hookups, there is also an "Option" for obtaining further track/album/artist info.

My Yamaha RX-A2010 AVR has a similar USB playlist function... but surprisingly, it's even more limited than the Oppo's. For my purposes, though, this added functionality that the BDP-103 has provided is perfect, and exactly what I needed.

Time to order a couple more 32GB thumb drives!
post #9159 of 16446
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Originally Posted by B 26354 View Post


Not sure how much help I can be, but regarding the music-file playback, here goes...

First off... I'm completely "old school". I'm not interested in Internet streaming of any kind, I don't want the Internet to automatically look up anything for me, and until this past week, I was an exclusively "shiny-disc" guy. So I don't feel any need to convert my film collection (~2000 discs) to any file format, and for music, I've never owned anything even remotely resembling an iPod. CDs (and .wav files burned onto them) played through an incredible home sound system, have worked perfectly well for me.

With the advent of the 103's newest firmware's ability to create a USB-drive "playlist", though, I started contemplating the convenience of such for music .wav-file playback... and ordered a 32GB thumb drive.

 

It doesn't sound like you have an SMB share in your setup, but if you want more flexibility with playlists you may want to consider it. I posted a work around using Foobar's very handy Link feature that allows you to make a playlist (really a folder with shadow copies (hard links) of your files numbered in playlist order) to serve up to the OPPO. These files don't actually take space. This is how I currently consume my music via OPPO.

post #9160 of 16446
Is there some way to disable overscan in the YouTube application? When I watch YouTube on my Pioneer LX5090H quite a few of the videos seem to get overscanned so they are about 10% larger than my television screen and I have yet to find any option for disabling this.
post #9161 of 16446
Got the Oppo and its a great player, but it will not "see" 3d media or flac on my network (See's/reads everything else). But if I plug in a usb stick with the same files that were on the network, it will see/read them?

Any suggestions...
post #9162 of 16446
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Originally Posted by splud View Post

Got the Oppo and its a great player, but it will not "see" 3d media or flac on my network (See's/reads everything else). But if I plug in a usb stick with the same files that were on the network, it will see/read them?

Any suggestions...

Is this with SMB or DLNA? If DLNA, what server?

What is the format of the 3D media?

-Bill
post #9163 of 16446
I've noticed that when playing Blu-ray discs that often the video will start playing a second or two before the audio is able to lock on. The CBS logo that appears at the beginning of all the "Star Trek" television series BDs when they are first loaded is a good example, but I have also experienced it when starting extras on other discs. I am experiencing this using optical digital to my audio receiver, but also checked HDMI to the built-in audio on my television with the same results.

My suspicion is that the Oppo, when it is able to, is starting the audio bitstream at exactly the same instant as the video as a result of attempting to start both as quickly as possible, and the audio processor is taking a second or two to decide which format the audio is in. I did not experience this to the same degree with my old Blu-ray player, probably because it was considerably slower and I'm guessing it established the audio bitstream prior to the start of video.

Is this what everyone else is experiencing? While I like the fast loading and quick start of play with the Oppo, I would prefer to at least have the option to have a second or two longer load or start and have the audio play from the very beginning of the video.
post #9164 of 16446
Would I damage the 103 if I reinstall the previous software version BDP10X-38-1220 (Release date: January 2, 2013). I am downloading the previous version right now from the OPPO website and planning to reinstall it myself today.

The latest software update seems to cause problems with my 103. It was working fine for me until I installed the latest update.
post #9165 of 16446
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Would I damage the 103 if I reinstall the previous software version BDP10X-38-1220 (Release date: January 2, 2013). I am downloading the previous version right now from the OPPO website and planning to reinstall it myself today.

The latest software update seems to cause problems with my 103. It was working fine for me until I installed the latest update.

According to Oppo´s release notes for the 0422 firmware, it is not possible to revert to any prior version:

"1. Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release."
post #9166 of 16446
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

According to Oppo´s release notes for the 0422 firmware, it is not possible to revert to any prior version:

"1. Once this firmware version is installed on the player, you will not be able to revert back to any previous official or public beta firmware. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release."


Oh that's not good!

I guess I will have to wait until the next software update.

Thanks for the information!
post #9167 of 16446
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Oh that's not good!

I guess I will have to wait until the next software update.

Thanks for the information!

If you have not already done so, I suggest you report any malfunctions or problems to Oppo's customer support. Judging from this thread, there are some deficiencies in the latest fw relese, and arguably the more reports are made, the sooner they will be remedied. This with all respect for the performance of Oppo´s service department so far which differs very favourably from that of Panasonic and Samsung - of which I personally have negative experience before I made the sensible decision to switch to Oppo players.
post #9168 of 16446
Damn what am I doing wrong -

Does anyone have an Oppo 103 connected to SC-07 through dual HDMI? I used the split AV but do not get audio to the receiver. HDMI2 from Oppo goes to the BR input in the SC-07. Any setting on the receiver that I am not configuring?
I get 3d video to my TV and yes if don't split and use the same cable then the 2d BRs work fine with movies. So I know Oppo is sending audio to SC-07 in one output mode. Only in the split mode something is not right.

the other thing I have done is the output from SC-07 goes to an HDMI switch and then to Darbee before going to the TV but I cannot see how that will be an issue.
post #9169 of 16446
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

Damn what am I doing wrong -

Does anyone have an Oppo 103 connected to SC-07 through dual HDMI? I used the split AV but do not get audio to the receiver. HDMI2 from Oppo goes to the BR input in the SC-07. Any setting on the receiver that I am not configuring?
I get 3d video to my TV and yes if don't split and use the same cable then the 2d BRs work fine with movies. So I know Oppo is sending audio to SC-07 in one output mode. Only in the split mode something is not right.

the other thing I have done is the output from SC-07 goes to an HDMI switch and then to Darbee before going to the TV but I cannot see how that will be an issue.

Does this article from OPPO's new "Knowledge Base" address your problem?

http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=9

--Bob
post #9170 of 16446
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Does this article from OPPO's new "Knowledge Base" address your problem?

http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=9

--Bob

That worked Bob; thanks a ton!
post #9171 of 16446
Bob is the "Knowledge Base" of the AVSForum Oppo threads. wink.gif
post #9172 of 16446
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post

I have the JVB Digital mod and it has worked flawlessly before and after installation of the new fw update - although I was a bit apprehensive before installing it due to the extensive changes included in the update. One important thing to note is that the JVB Digital mod will not work if the Standby Mode is set to "Quick Start" - apparently because the mod requires the player to be shut off after keying in the region change sequence and the Standby Mode will still provide current to parts of the player´s electronics (i.e. it is not switched off completely). The appropriate setting is "Energy Efficient".

Judging from previous posts on this and other forums, the Bluraychip Pro mod has always been sensitive to fw upgrades, and I personally do not feel it brings additional advantages which outweigh this sensitivity.

OPPOrtunist --Thanks for your input! Because of the incredible volume of posts to this thread (the 103 is very popular, to say the least) I didn't see your post until just now. My JVB Digital all regions mod kit has remained perfect, I couldn't have asked for more. I was glad to learn that the Bluraychip Pro mod has a history of needing a firmware update of its own every time Oppo updates its own firmware.

I would love to hear reports from others who have installed a JVB Digital all regions mod in their 103s.
post #9173 of 16446
Thread Starter 
Release date: May 24, 2013
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-52-0522B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B1000 (BDP-103), 7B1000 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Special Notice:

1. Once this Public Beta firmware is installed on the player, you can revert back to the previous Official release via a USB thumb drive. There will be no problem upgrading to any future official or beta firmware release.
2. Due to the extensive changes in this major firmware update, it is required that the user performs a "Reset Factory Defaults" operation after the firmware is installed. Please write down your special settings before doing this, and remember to re-apply your settings and adjust the proper volume level (if applicable) before you play any content. You may experience stability issues if this step is not performed.

Release Notes:

1. Improved the Audio/Video synchronization when streaming from some cable TV boxes connected to the HDMI IN port (Front and Back). Customers have reported that within the normal TV playback, if there is any change on the content audio format (for example, from Dolby Digital 5.1 to Dolby Digital 2.0), the audio/video outputs could be out-of-sync. This issue has been significantly improved in this firmware. (We are aware of an audio startup delay issue when switching from Dolby Digital 5.1 input to Dolby Digital 2.0 input, and are working to resolve it in a future firmware version.)

2. Improved the CUE file support, now it can contain non-English character in UTF-8 encoding.

3 Added the support for a newly developed iOS application named "MediaControlHD". It is designed for iPad and iPad mini, and can be downloaded from iPad Store for free.

4. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples4
Edited by Neuromancer - 5/24/13 at 2:55pm
post #9174 of 16446
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What to make of a Blu-ray concert by SADE (Bring me home ... LIVE 2011) that won't play Bitstream (DTS-HD MA) but will play LPCM? Is the problem the Oppo or the disc. My Anthem D2v says "No Signal" on its inputs when the DTS track is selected so it seems the Oppo isn't sending the Bitstream track?

Doing the usual chicken-dance of powering up/down the Oppo and the Anthem doesn't help the situation...

BTW this BD is encoded in 24p and not the 60i for concerts(if that helps).
Is the DTS 2.0 channel? If so there is a display bug in the Anthem that will show "No signal" but you will actually hear sound.
post #9175 of 16446
New beta has a hard time With netflix first time around.. I had to manually turn off the player. Then it seemed ok.
Ipad remote works.
Edited by jmschnur - 5/24/13 at 5:53pm
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With the new Beta, YouTube still does not remember my login.

Netflix was _extremely sluggish on first attempt. (20 second delays for every button press) After stopping the movie, it froze the player. After a reboot, it is now performing as expected.

The Media Control app works well. Playlist creation would be a great enhancement, IMO.
post #9177 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: May 24, 2013
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3 Added the support for a newly developed iOS application named "MediaControlHD". It is designed for iPad and iPad mini, and can be downloaded from iPad Store for free.
....

It looks like that IOS app is only for the BDP-103/105 at this time, at least with the latest official firmware for the BDP-93. I don't know if it is supported with the Public Beta software for the 93. So with the 93 we have the Oppo RemoteControl iOS app.

Am I correct with this [yes I know this is the 103 forum and this is really a 93 question, but the quoted post is what made me aware of the MediaControlHD app :-) I figured that this is where I would find the most info on the new app.

Cheers, Mike
post #9178 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

3 Added the support for a newly developed iOS application named "MediaControlHD". It is designed for iPad and iPad mini, and can be downloaded from iPad Store for free.

 

For owners of the 93 series, how long did it take OPPO last time to release an Android version of their media control app?

post #9179 of 16446
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What to make of a Blu-ray concert by SADE (Bring me home ... LIVE 2011) that won't play Bitstream (DTS-HD MA) but will play LPCM? Is the problem the Oppo or the disc. My Anthem D2v says "No Signal" on its inputs when the DTS track is selected so it seems the Oppo isn't sending the Bitstream track?

Doing the usual chicken-dance of powering up/down the Oppo and the Anthem doesn't help the situation...

BTW this BD is encoded in 24p and not the 60i for concerts(if that helps).
Is the DTS 2.0 channel? If so there is a display bug in the Anthem that will show "No signal" but you will actually hear sound.

DTS-HD MA 5.1 as originally stated. I switch to LPCM in the Oppo and it plays fine. Others played it in the 83SE and it worked fine Bitstream in their setup.

post #9180 of 16446
Is there a network automation interface available on the BDP-103? For example is the serial port command set available via a TCP port? The Oppo iPhone app clearly talks to something. Is it documented some where?
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