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post #9691 of 16406
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Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

Boe, have you tried granting, on a folder by folder basis, access/sharing rights to "Everyone" as discussed earlier in this thread. That seems to be the solution.

It may be in the policy settings, I can't recall exactly.

Thanks. For now, I'd like to know what is the proper login on the Oppo to SMB - is it workgroup\username, just username pcname\username, username@pcname? I'd like to be able to login on my oppo to my PC SMB files.
post #9692 of 16406
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Thanks. For now, I'd like to know what is the proper login on the Oppo to SMB - is it workgroup\username, just username pcname\username, username@pcname? I'd like to be able to login on my oppo to my PC SMB files.
If you're not on a domain, then just user name is fine or you can prefix it with SERVERNAME\USERNAME which will work too. Note this too. SMB won't work with Windows 8, at least not right now.
post #9693 of 16406
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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

If you're not on a domain, then just user name is fine or you can prefix it with SERVERNAME\USERNAME which will work too. Note this too. SMB won't work with Windows 8, at least not right now.

Thanks for clarifying - yet another thing that makes Windows 8 suck smile.gif
post #9694 of 16406
What is the current recomendation for the use of the 36 bit Deep Color setting, or should it be set to Off? Also, is there a perferred output setting when using the rear input to output Directv HDTV 1080i 60 signals? Thanks.
post #9695 of 16406
Please advise when the Source Direct output should be used. Thanks.
post #9696 of 16406
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Originally Posted by rrollens View Post

Please advise when the Source Direct output should be used. Thanks.

When you don't want the Oppo to do any upscaling or de-interlacing such as when you feed an AVR/pre-pro or external video processor. For most people, Source Direct is probably not what they want though some people use it whenever they play movie BDs to be sure that 1080p/24 gets sent to their AVR or display.
post #9697 of 16406
Id only use Source Direct if I was using a external processor, as stated here.

I keep mine set to 1080p (not Auto) and 24p on. Deep Color is always off for me.
post #9698 of 16406
Hi:

I recently downloaded a few rental movie titles from iTunes (for the first time) to my PC, they are essentially MP4 video files. This is an experiment to see how this all works.

I'm using a 2TB MyBookLive (DLNA) hard drive connected to my network. I have multiple home theater/audio system in different rooms, all using Oppo players (BDP-93, BDP-103, BDP-105).

So I copied over the MP4 files onto the MyBookLive drive, they wrote over just fine, I could see the files residing there. Moreover I could see the files while navigating through the "Network" mode on the Oppo (BDP-103 and BDP-93). However they would not play (I forget the error message).

The original down-loaded file(s), which default to the iTunes ("iTunes Media") directory don't play either (using Windows Media Player). You figure if they are putting this content out there to be down-loaded to your PC they would be compatible. All my iTunes music files play just fine.

I'm not exactly sure if this is an HDCP issue? Or an (MP4) file compatibility issue? Or a file configuration issue due to being "rental" content?

I've seen comments on-line about needing to use MP4 conversion software?

Appreciate your input............
Edited by WestCoastD - 6/9/13 at 3:53pm
post #9699 of 16406
A few weeks ago there were some postings about using USB hard drives that drew power from the USB port, and that if the power draw is too great, the use of a powered hub would relieve the Oppo from having to supply the power. There were also some discussions about hard drives falling asleep and the Oppo being unable to wake them. Then the thread went silent...

But here's my situation:

My backup mkv files have outgrown my 3TB Toshiba Canvio POWERED USB 3.0 hard drive, so I got a second, identical unit plus a PASSIVE USB hub so I could connect both drives to the Oppo. The Oppo can see the movie files on both drives and can play from either one. However, after about 10 minutes or so of play, the movie stops. Then after about a 10-20 second pause, the movie resumes again, with no intervention on my part.

Thinking this may be a power issue, I replaced the PASSIVE hub with a POWERED hub. Same problem.

Interestingly, the way to avoid the pauses in playback is to simply unplug the USB connection of the drive I'm not using. Of course, that would be a pain going forward.

Suggestions, anyone? My goal: to have 2,3,4,5,...drives connected via a powered hub to my Oppo as my collection grows, without these hiccups.
post #9700 of 16406
Quote:
I recently downloaded a few rental movie titles from iTunes (for the first time) to my PC, they are essentially MP4 video files. This is an experiment to see how this all works.
It would be helpful to know the error message.

Do you get the same thing when the files are on local storage?

Post the results of the "mediainfo" utility for one of these files.

-Bill
post #9701 of 16406
I have been running my 103/AU with split a/v but since the BDP10X-38-1220 f/w I've had lip/sync issues, I thought with the addition of the audio delay settings in the BDP10X-50-0422 f/w I would be able to solve the problem.
This is not the case however, I find I have to adjust the setting between different discs and on some discs no matter what I set the deay to it's still out of sync. Last night I decided to try running the 103 out of HDMI 1 only and the lip/sync problem is gone.
While this has solved the problem for now, it is not how I want to run my setup, has anyone else found the same problem?
post #9702 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Kazz063 View Post

I have been running my 103/AU with split a/v but since the BDP10X-38-1220 f/w I've had lip/sync issues, I thought with the addition of the audio delay settings in the BDP10X-50-0422 f/w I would be able to solve the problem.
This is not the case however, I find I have to adjust the setting between different discs and on some discs no matter what I set the deay to it's still out of sync. Last night I decided to try running the 103 out of HDMI 1 only and the lip/sync problem is gone.
While this has solved the problem for now, it is not how I want to run my setup, has anyone else found the same problem?

First of all, for best results on A/V sync, move to the Public Beta 0522B firmware if you can (I don't know if it is out yet for the AU version players).

Second, A/V sync problems in a two HDMI cable configuration (Split A/V) are often due to the AVR "helpfully" adding varying amounts of audio delay because the AVR has no way of knowing it has been bypassed for video. I.e., it is trying to correct for its own video processing delay, even though that's not actually needed. How you get any given AVR to stop doing that varies by model. For example, look for a way to either disable its video output, or to set HDMI video to "pass through" so that it knows it is not being called on to do video processing. Also, disable any setting related to Automatic Lip Sync correction.

When testing this, be sure to use a disc of known A/V sync quality. Sync errors in the actual content on disc are far more common than most people realize -- until they go looking carefully for test cases and start finding problems. I recommend the A/V Sync chart found on Disney's "WOW World of Wonder" calibration Blu-ray.
--Bob
post #9703 of 16406
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

Hi:

I recently downloaded a few rental movie titles from iTunes (for the first time) to my PC, they are essentially MP4 video files. This is an experiment to see how this all works.

. . . .

Wouldn't these files be DRM protected against copying/playback outside of the iTunes app?
--Bob
post #9704 of 16406
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Originally Posted by rrollens View Post

What is the current recomendation for the use of the 36 bit Deep Color setting, or should it be set to Off? Also, is there a perferred output setting when using the rear input to output Directv HDTV 1080i 60 signals? Thanks.

This post may help:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-thread/9360#post_23372963

The same choice that applies when playing discs will likely also be correct when playing content on the HDMI Inputs as well.
--Bob
post #9705 of 16406
Nix that...I just saw this evening the Oppo Knowledge Base article about a simple DLNA server: Configuring and Accessing a Simple DLNA Server in Windows. I installed and configured it, and it works like a charm! No need for USB drives attached locally to the Oppo.
post #9706 of 16406
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Originally Posted by HT in MSP View Post

A few weeks ago there were some postings about using USB hard drives that drew power from the USB port, and that if the power draw is too great, the use of a powered hub would relieve the Oppo from having to supply the power. There were also some discussions about hard drives falling asleep and the Oppo being unable to wake them. Then the thread went silent...

But here's my situation:

My backup mkv files have outgrown my 3TB Toshiba Canvio POWERED USB 3.0 hard drive, so I got a second, identical unit plus a PASSIVE USB hub so I could connect both drives to the Oppo. The Oppo can see the movie files on both drives and can play from either one. However, after about 10 minutes or so of play, the movie stops. Then after about a 10-20 second pause, the movie resumes again, with no intervention on my part.

Thinking this may be a power issue, I replaced the PASSIVE hub with a POWERED hub. Same problem.

Interestingly, the way to avoid the pauses in playback is to simply unplug the USB connection of the drive I'm not using. Of course, that would be a pain going forward.

Suggestions, anyone? My goal: to have 2,3,4,5,...drives connected via a powered hub to my Oppo as my collection grows, without these hiccups.

Nix that...I just saw this evening the Oppo Knowledge Base article about a simple DLNA server: Configuring and Accessing a Simple DLNA Server in Windows. I installed and configured it, and it works like a charm! No need for USB drives attached locally to the Oppo.
post #9707 of 16406
Quote:
Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

Boe, have you tried granting, on a folder by folder basis, access/sharing rights to "Everyone" as discussed earlier in this thread. That seems to be the solution.

It may be in the policy settings, I can't recall exactly.
Yes, unfortunately it still asks for a login which does not seem to work with Windows 8.
post #9708 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Wouldn't these files be DRM protected against copying/playback outside of the iTunes app?
yes, you're correct, thanks. I think I'm gonna just experiment down-loading iTunes movie rental directly to my iPad (or iPhone), and stream via-AirPlay directly to Denon 2112CI.
Edited by WestCoastD - 6/9/13 at 10:50pm
post #9709 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

First of all, for best results on A/V sync, move to the Public Beta 0522B firmware if you can (I don't know if it is out yet for the AU version players).

Second, A/V sync problems in a two HDMI cable configuration (Split A/V) are often due to the AVR "helpfully" adding varying amounts of audio delay because the AVR has no way of knowing it has been bypassed for video. I.e., it is trying to correct for its own video processing delay, even though that's not actually needed. How you get any given AVR to stop doing that varies by model. For example, look for a way to either disable its video output, or to set HDMI video to "pass through" so that it knows it is not being called on to do video processing. Also, disable any setting related to Automatic Lip Sync correction.

When testing this, be sure to use a disc of known A/V sync quality. Sync errors in the actual content on disc are far more common than most people realize -- until they go looking carefully for test cases and start finding problems. I recommend the A/V Sync chart found on Disney's "WOW World of Wonder" calibration Blu-ray.
--Bob

I have a Yamaha receiver that has a feature whereby you can either A) apply a fixed A/V sync delay time to the audio signal, or B) apply an "Auto" lip sync delay depending on a value provided by the source device via the HDMI handshaking process.

Do you know if the Oppo supports sending the Auto lip sync delay value in the HDMI handshake? And if so, is there something I need to set up in the Oppo to make it work properly?

Reason why I ask is that the Auto function seems not to work currently. But maybe I am doing something wrong. Currently I have the Yamaha set to apply a fixed delay of 225 mSec (setting determined using the Disney WOW test disc). But I don't like the fixed delay because it is a blanket parameter applied to all of the Yamaha's inputs (not just the one from the Oppo). Furthermore I imagine the Oppo would take different amounts of time to process the video depending on what source material it is playing, so a fixed delay is surely not optimum in all cases.

Therefore it would be nice if the Oppo would properly support the Auto lip sync delay function. (Feature Request).

PS (side question) does this 225 mSec sound like a reasonable value for the Oppo? Somehow I assumed that it had such fancy chips that it would need far less time than that...
post #9710 of 16406
^ 225ms audio delay is a lot. Something is screwy in your setup.

First Auto Lip Sync correction doesn't work the way you think. It doesn't happen between a source device and the AVR but rather between your TV and the AVR. It causes the AVR to pick up the audio delay requested by your TV to counter the video processing time in the TV. Most TVs won't send that or will send an inappropriate value.

If you are using the Public Beta 0522B firmware, then audio and video should be in sync at the player's outputs. That means that over 2 tenths of a second audio delay you are applying is needed to counter the video processing time in the AVR plus the video processing time in the display. That's a ton of time -- over 5 frames of video at 24fps and over 13 at 60fps. Video processing usually takes only a frame or 2.

That suggests to me you have some unusual video processing enabled either in the AVR or the display.

(With 0522B I need NO audio delay added by my Anthem Statement D2v.)
--Bob
post #9711 of 16406
I am a new owner of the OPPO 103......just got it a week today. This is my first Oppo and in testing the last few days I notice that when playing media (Blu ray discs or media files from an external hard drive), if I press stop it does not resume from the same place but goes back to the start.
In setup menu - Playback setup - I've tried with Auto resume set to "on" and "off", but it does not make any difference.
Is there a setting I'm missing?
post #9712 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Klinsmann View Post

I am a new owner of the OPPO 103......just got it a week today. This is my first Oppo and in testing the last few days I notice that when playing media (Blu ray discs or media files from an external hard drive), if I press stop it does not resume from the same place but goes back to the start.
In setup menu - Playback setup - I've tried with Auto resume set to "on" and "off", but it does not make any difference.
Is there a setting I'm missing?
For Blu-Ray discs, the ability to resume is controlled by the way the disc is encoded (BD Java) and there is nothing you can do in a player to overcome this. Fortunately, many new BDs enable resuming. In my experience, the older the disc the less likely you can resume it.

As for your external media files, what types of files are you encountering the problem with?
post #9713 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Klinsmann View Post

I am a new owner of the OPPO 103......just got it a week today. This is my first Oppo and in testing the last few days I notice that when playing media (Blu ray discs or media files from an external hard drive), if I press stop it does not resume from the same place but goes back to the start.
In setup menu - Playback setup - I've tried with Auto resume set to "on" and "off", but it does not make any difference.
Is there a setting I'm missing?

Welcome to AVSForum.

All DVDs should be resumable, but only some Blu-rays. Blu-rays with java require java programming on the disc to control the resume points and not all discs have that. They player can do nothing about that.

I don't believe the player saves resume points for media files.

-Bill
post #9714 of 16406
Thank you JazzGuyy and Bill.

I have checked with more bluray movies and find that it does resume a few of them!
But on the media files - MP4, MKV, none will resume.
My OPPO has just replaced a Samsung BD-E6500 and this player resumed the same files from last stop point. I've also tried stopping in the middle and playing the same file again (without power off, in case it cannot save after a poweroff) but it still starts from the beginning.
Suggestions anyone?
post #9715 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Klinsmann View Post

Suggestions anyone?

For resuming media files? I don't think it does that. If you note the time index before stopping you might try the GOTO button on the remote the next time you play it.

-Bill
post #9716 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Klinsmann View Post

Thank you JazzGuyy and Bill.

I have checked with more bluray movies and find that it does resume a few of them!
But on the media files - MP4, MKV, none will resume.
My OPPO has just replaced a Samsung BD-E6500 and this player resumed the same files from last stop point. I've also tried stopping in the middle and playing the same file again (without power off, in case it cannot save after a poweroff) but it still starts from the beginning.
Suggestions anyone?

The Oppo does not resume files as my WDTV and other media player do. I have sent an email to Oppo this week to ask for this feature. You can see my post from a few days ago in this thread.

I strongly suggest you let Oppo know this is something valuable to you too. The more ask for it, the more chances they will find it worthwhile to implement it.
post #9717 of 16406
I'm excited to say that I just ordered up a BDP-103. Gonna replace the -83 in my family room with the -103, and the -83 will be replacing a S L O W loading Pioneer BDP-320 in my bedroom.

Looking forward to all the new bells and whistles of the -103, plus the capability of playing my i-Tunes music files from a USB thumb drive. I'll be referring back to this thread for setup advice once my new baby arrives.
post #9718 of 16406
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ 225ms audio delay is a lot. Something is screwy in your setup.

First Auto Lip Sync correction doesn't work the way you think. It doesn't happen between a source device and the AVR but rather between your TV and the AVR. It causes the AVR to pick up the audio delay requested by your TV to counter the video processing time in the TV. Most TVs won't send that or will send an inappropriate value.

If you are using the Public Beta 0522B firmware, then audio and video should be in sync at the player's outputs. That means that over 2 tenths of a second audio delay you are applying is needed to counter the video processing time in the AVR plus the video processing time in the display. That's a ton of time -- over 5 frames of video at 24fps and over 13 at 60fps. Video processing usually takes only a frame or 2.

That suggests to me you have some unusual video processing enabled either in the AVR or the display.

(With 0522B I need NO audio delay added by my Anthem Statement D2v.)
--Bob

Hmm. The AVR is not actually doing anything to the video; it is set up to do Source Direct. The only processing that the AVR is doing is on the audio side (Yamaha sound field stuff). So one would expect that any audio processing delay in the AVR would tend to counteract any video processing delay in the Oppo. Its a mystery to me...
post #9719 of 16406
^ The video processing delay must be in your Display, then. Check any video "enhancement" options active in your Display. Also try 1080p/60, as some Displays are known to introduce ridiculous amounts of video delay when fed 1080p/24.
--Bob
post #9720 of 16406
This might sound like a very noob question but I am unable to find the answer in the manual. Is there anyway to play music through the network without having to turn on a display and navigate through the menu.

The oppo 103 is connected to the JVC 4810, and I hate to have to turn the projector on every time I want to access music files through the network to listen to music. The front display doesn't change as I go through submenus so that doesn't help much either.

I have an ipad/iphone so an app that would let me do this would work too.

Thanks!
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