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post #211 of 912
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Originally Posted by terrspin11 View Post

So, what is the conclusion regarding bi-wiring these receivers- yay or nay?

Also, does anyone set their input source level above or below 0 db? I have a ps3 and directv and am considering raising the level. My silly reason being, is for 100w, this doesnt seem to have a lot of low end oomph.

I am sure my thinking is flawed, so I am hoping someone can explain to my why i need to crank this up to get to the volume that is audible.

Thanks!

Nay for both bi-amping and bi-wiring.

Note also that increasing the Source Level setting will reduce the master volume level in the process so using this setting is generally only necessary if you want to level out all sources such that they each provide the same "actual" SPL volume at the same master volume setting.
post #212 of 912
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My silly reason being, is for 100w, this doesnt seem to have a lot of low end oomph.
Sounds like a problem with your powered subwoofer or sub pre-out settings...?
post #213 of 912
Thanks for all the info- I will un bi wire them tonight.

My issue with the 'oomph' is more so the volume level needs to be cranked to be audible. The bass is actually pretty good, different than the pioneers, but good.


Ok, one more question- do you use Dynamic Volume with blu rays, cable, etc. I ask all these questions because these new fancy tech receivers seem to be overwhelming on all the tech. Thanks!
post #214 of 912
Note that newer AVRs use a logarithmic volume curve which simply means that unlike older models where the volume was quite loud at maybe 20% of max, on the newer models, the volume will generally average 50% for TV and maybe 60-70% for movies (if the wife will let you get away with it that loud). smile.gif


Dyn EQ - ON for all sources all the time
Reference Level Offset - 10 (TV/music), 0 (movies)
Dyn Vol - OFF except for TV viewing to tame obnoxious commericals and raise low dialogue levels as well as late night viewing when others are sleeping.
post #215 of 912
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My issue with the 'oomph' is more so the volume level needs to be cranked to be audible. The bass is actually pretty good, different than the pioneers
My point is that the "oomph" you are referring to is probably in the low frequency range that is normally sent to your powered subwoofer anyway, depending upon the size of your main speakers and the speaking settings in your receiver. (Many manufacturers recommend setting the speaker size to "small" in the receiver for the most common speaker sizes, which sends any audio signal below around 60 Hz to the subwoofer.) So the power of the actual receiver may not be involved at all. Instead, you may need to adjust your subwoofer EQ or level settings, either in the receiver or on the actual subwoofer amp.
post #216 of 912
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Here's the thing ... the power supply cannot keep up with the additional speakers and the overall power will be reduced as more amps are used. For example, see the benchmark test on the 7007 below ...

Marantz SR7007 (125W/7CH) – 2 CH @ 124W; 5 CH @ 89W; 7 CH @ 70W @ 0.1% THD

jdsmoothie,

thanks for your patience... yes, I am familiar with the power ratings on the SR7007 as reported by Home Theater, unfortunately there not seems to be much on the web yet in the way of actual testing of the SR5007. Basically you are saying that since the power supply is the same for all channel and of course it has a finite amount of power available, bi-amping using two channels in the same receiver will only split the available supply of power, thus negating the benefit of bi-amping.

A follow-up question, though: the way my speakers are wired, they can be bi-amped separating the woofer from the mid and tweeter. Is there not any benefit at all from bi-amping even considering that most likely the more critical power demand comes from the woofers?

Not trying to be stubborn, just want to genuinely learn from those with more experience than myself. If bi-amping is useless and using only two channel for music is the best way to get the most power, that is what I'll do, I am not interested in bi-amping just for the sake of it. The SR5007 is specified to deliver 100W on two channels simultaneously over the full audio range and that should be okay with music in stereo, since this is the same power the now defunct NAD could deliver and it drove the speakers just fine.

I guess it bothers me a little to have to buy (and pay for) a 7-ch receiver and not use two channels at all. However, if that buys me a power supply capable of driving seven channels, it can only mean more power available if I use five (or two for music), thus it might not be a bad deal after all smile.gif
post #217 of 912
Hi,
I am a new owner of a SR5007 as of today. and got a couple of questions right away that I hope to get help with;

1. Is it possible to play my .avi & .mkv movies from my DLNA-server on the 5007? When I go on Network/Media Server it shows:

Music
Photo
Video (not play)

and it does not play any of my movies. When you read the specs on the devise it says it is able to play your media files from a DLNA-serve - does that mean only audio-files?

2. I have not been able to figure out how to set the three "FAVOURITE STATION" buttons, anyone who can help me with that?

Thanks

/Kenneth
post #218 of 912
Hi,
I am a new owner of a SR5007 as of today. and got a couple of questions right away that I hope to get help with;

1. Is it possible to play my .avi & .mkv movies from my DLNA-server on the 5007? When I go on Network/Media Server it shows:

Music
Photo
Video (not play)

and it does not play any of my movies. When you read the specs on the devise it says it is able to play your media files from a DLNA-serve - does that mean only audio-files?

2. I have not been able to figure out how to set the three "FAVOURITE STATION" buttons, anyone who can help me with that?

Thanks

/Kenneth
post #219 of 912
I just suggested this receiver to a friend, and just set it up. Now he is thinking of getting a sacd player. Did I screw-up in suggesting this because it has no DSD converter, or is there a player that I can use with this receiver that will be just as good? Can I just use pretty much any player that allows PCM through HDMI, or should he upgrade to a receiver that supports DSD? I suppose I could also use the analog inputs, if I get the right player. Thanks for any suggestions.
Edited by sucha deal! - 1/15/13 at 11:59pm
post #220 of 912
^^
Although DSD over HDMI is only featured on the 6007 and higher models, the player should be able to do the processing to PCM and then pass it to the 5007. You'll not want to use the analog inputs as doing so disables Audyssey.
post #221 of 912
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Melin View Post

Hi,
I am a new owner of a SR5007 as of today. and got a couple of questions right away that I hope to get help with;

1. Is it possible to play my .avi & .mkv movies from my DLNA-server on the 5007? When I go on Network/Media Server it shows:

Music
Photo
Video (not play)

and it does not play any of my movies. When you read the specs on the devise it says it is able to play your media files from a DLNA-serve - does that mean only audio-files?

2. I have not been able to figure out how to set the three "FAVOURITE STATION" buttons, anyone who can help me with that?

Thanks

/Kenneth

1. No video.
2. Owner's manual (p. 67)
post #222 of 912
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Originally Posted by MusicHead View Post

A follow-up question, though: the way my speakers are wired, they can be bi-amped separating the woofer from the mid and tweeter. Is there not any benefit at all from bi-amping even considering that most likely the more critical power demand comes from the woofers?

{snip}

I guess it bothers me a little to have to buy (and pay for) a 7-ch receiver and not use two channels at all. However, if that buys me a power supply capable of driving seven channels, it can only mean more power available if I use five (or two for music), thus it might not be a bad deal after all smile.gif

1. Nope.
2. Correct. The one power supply supplies power as needed.
post #223 of 912
Thanks jdsmoothie, I find it a bit dissapointing that I cannot play movies directly from the unit, I guess come in later models. Not the end of the world, I can play them from my smart-TV so I still do not need the extra device...
post #224 of 912
I'd like to feed two-channel audio from the pre-amp outs of a Marantz 2275 to the SR5007 (to enjoy an occasional lp from the former system).

What inputs on the SR5007 could I use? one of the analog audio ins?

if yes, would I need to use one that I had not already connected via HDMI (that is, if I've already connected a media player via HDMI, could I still use the analog media player in without contention between the two inputs)?

thanks
post #225 of 912
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Melin View Post

Thanks jdsmoothie, I find it a bit dissapointing that I cannot play movies directly from the unit, I guess come in later models. Not the end of the world, I can play them from my smart-TV so I still do not need the extra device...

Many (perhaps most) current generation Blu-ray players include DLNA support for video files. BD players are the least expensive way to regularly upgrade your A/V system's streaming network support.
post #226 of 912
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Originally Posted by theSeaHawk View Post

I'd like to feed two-channel audio from the pre-amp outs of a Marantz 2275 to the SR5007 (to enjoy an occasional lp from the former system).

What inputs on the SR5007 could I use? one of the analog audio ins?

if yes, would I need to use one that I had not already connected via HDMI (that is, if I've already connected a media player via HDMI, could I still use the analog media player in without contention between the two inputs)?

thanks

Correct. Any set of analog inputs ... ideally a unique source name not currently being used, however, you can also use the "Media Player" inputs and as long as the HDMI source isn't playing and the INPUT MODE is set to "AUTO", it should work just fine.
post #227 of 912
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Melin View Post

Thanks jdsmoothie, I find it a bit dissapointing that I cannot play movies directly from the unit, I guess come in later models. Not the end of the world, I can play them from my smart-TV so I still do not need the extra device...

If I may offer a suggestion to all those interested in streaming media to their SR5007 (or any other AVR): consider a Roku. The entry model I believe is now only $50. Besides the obvious Netflix, Amazon, Crakle, Hulu+ etc., there are third-party apps (or "channels", in Roku lingo) that allows very interesting things.

For example, with Plex, one of such apps, you can stream content from your home network computers, provided you install the Plex Media Server on the PC with the content to stream. You can select which folders to include in the library but it will automatically index iTunes content, both audio and video.

I have a TV Tuner card on my main PC so I can use it as a DVR for OTA HDTV. With Plex I can stream content in High-Def recorded with Windows Media Center to my 42" TV through the Roku with no perceived loss of quality and no pauses for buffering whatsoever over my Wireless 54Mbit home network. It looks like if I were watching the event in real time but I can skip commercials and pause it. Very neat....biggrin.gif
post #228 of 912
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Originally Posted by MusicHead View Post

If I may offer a suggestion to all those interested in streaming media to their SR5007 (or any other AVR): consider a Roku. The entry model I believe is now only $50. Besides the obvious Netflix, Amazon, Crakle, Hulu+ etc., there are third-party apps (or "channels", in Roku lingo) that allows very interesting things.

For example, with Plex, one of such apps, you can stream content from your home network computers, provided you install the Plex Media Server on the PC with the content to stream. You can select which folders to include in the library but it will automatically index iTunes content, both audio and video.

I have a TV Tuner card on my main PC so I can use it as a DVR for OTA HDTV. With Plex I can stream content in High-Def recorded with Windows Media Center to my 42" TV through the Roku with no perceived loss of quality and no pauses for buffering whatsoever over my Wireless 54Mbit home network. It looks like if I were watching the event in real time but I can skip commercials and pause it. Very neat....biggrin.gif

I too can recommend the Roku. I can also recommend the WD TV Live which I also have. The only drawback to the WD device is it doesn't stream Amazon.
post #229 of 912
I have looking at the spec of the SR5007 and it seems it can be used as a preamp in a 5.1 or 7.1 system. I have read on this site that it has high heat problems, but if it is used as a preamp does it still have this high heat problem.
post #230 of 912
I've read quite a few reports that the video circuitry in modern D&M equipment tends to run quite hot all the time, producing most of the heat that people notice. In most circumstances, the amps themselves don't produce much heat unless you have very inefficient speakers running continuously at very loud levels.
post #231 of 912
seiji-

I have my 5007 in a steel media shelf that has maybe 3 inches of room on the top. After hours of running the receiver, at high levels and low levels, it is never too hot to touch. I have heard and read of the heat problems but have yet to experience any. I think the seat warmers in my car get hotter than this amp does.

Hope that helps
post #232 of 912
If the SR5007 is powered down completely (in the event of a power outage, or is powered off to rearrange components, etc.), does the Audyssey set-up need to be redone?
post #233 of 912
No. Settings should remain in tact for at least 2 weeks without power.
post #234 of 912
Another thumb-up for the Roku box. I just added one of those to my bedroom today and it's working great. Was $60, setup was a breeze and now I can watch my HBO Go shows in the bedroom. And my kids use it to watch Netflix.
post #235 of 912
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The video processing on the AVR can be set to OFF such that the video simply passes through to the TV. Ideally it's a good idea to get the speakers first and then the AVR, although as the 5007 has a set of pre-outs, if you need more power (eg. 4-ohm speakers), you can always add an external amp, otherwise, the Paradigm 60 and 100 speakers would be fairly easy to drive with the 5007 as they are 8-ohm 90db+ speakers.

Can this AVR handle 4-ohm speakers if I get an external amp? I am thinking of the Polk LSi (LSi 15s, LSiC, LSi7s) series and am wondering if this amp is would be ok for those. Maybe this is a noob question because it isn't an issue if i have the amp.
post #236 of 912
At average volume levels the 5007 shouldn't have any problem with 4-ohm speakers; however, may require a more powerful external amp (eg. Emotiva XPA-2) at louder volume levels.
post #237 of 912
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

At average volume levels the 5007 shouldn't have any problem with 4-ohm speakers; however, may require a more powerful external amp (eg. Emotiva XPA-2) at louder volume levels.

I will probably get an amp, however, would i need to change anything on the AVR to a set it to a 4ohm impedance? I looked at the manual and couldnt find it. I was looking at getting an amp for the LSi15s but didnt know if i wanted to pony up to the XPA-5. i was hoping for just the xpa-2
post #238 of 912
No, there is no impedance setting on the 5007, although even on models that do have one, you want to leave it set to 8-ohm as setting it to 4-ohm simply reduces the current going to the speakers.
post #239 of 912
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

No, there is no impedance setting on the 5007, although even on models that do have one, you want to leave it set to 8-ohm as setting it to 4-ohm simply reduces the current going to the speakers.

Thank you! I just wanted to make sure if i got the 5007 I wasnt doing something wrong. I am looking at the Denon 3313, Onkyo 818 and the 5007. I am leaning towards the Marantz because of price and reviews. i am still on the fence though. Thanks for your feedback!
post #240 of 912
Change of topic: Going back to some posts earlier in this thread, it seems the SR5007 has pre-outs for an external amp (which is what I have). I am using the AVR for HT only and adding a 2-channel pre-amp for music. Do I understand correctly that relatively similar Denon units do NOT have the pre-outs I need?
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