Marantz SR5007 Owner's Thread - Page 9

This is correct. The pre-outs dont start until the Denon 3313 series. You could find a 3312 as well. That is the main reason i like the marantz is price and value

Apparently pre-outs have been available only for top two Denon models (3xxx and 4xxx) starting with their xx10 model year.

Mnaudioguy - thanks for confirming. I noticed that the Marantz NR1603 as 2.1 for pre-outs and the SR5007 has 7.2 for pre-outs. What's the difference and how do I know what I need?

Having 2.1 preamp outputs means that a receiver can be used with external amplifiers for (only) the two main front speakers and with 1 powered subwoofer, with the receiver powering the center and surround speakers. Since the NR series of receivers has limited total power available (so they can make the receivers physically smaller), offloading the power requirements for the front speakers can be useful when more over-all system power is needed (e.g. in a large room or with inefficient front speakers).

Having 7.2 preamp outputs means that it can be used with external amplifiers for any or all of the speakers, including 2 powered subwoofers -- i.e. use the receiver as if it were just a preamp-processor and in large rooms with inefficient speakers.

My understanding is that the .2 subwoofer connections really are only wired together internally to the receiver, equivalent to an external Y connection. They're not two separate channels, and the Audyssey calibration treats the two subs as if they were one speaker. This is unlike their top-of-the-line AV8801 preamp/processor, which includes Audyssey MultEQ XT32. That unit can calibrate two subwoofers independently.

Selden Ball - that answers my question perfectly. I was intending to run my mains and center off an external amp and the rears off the AVR. Looks like the SR5007 it is. It appears to be identical to the SR6007 except for power, and at the moment it only needs to power two rears.

I almost went for the AV8801 instead of the hybrid 2-channel/AVR setup I am doing. The XT32 seems to have good reviews. I plan on having only one sub so hopefully the XT on the SR5007 will suffice.

Hi,

I am not too sure if any one here faced an issue with your Marantz SR 5007 with the "Network Option". I bought the amp about 2 weeks back and configured it for airplay.

I initially connected the amp to my hand phone - Samsung S3 (Android 4.1.1) over the home network and the music from the phone streamed perfectly however fiddling around I accidentally triggered something on the amp that resulted in reducing the overall input volume of Network Options- Internet Radio, Media Server. Even if I turn master volume all the way up (98), I hear a very faint volume of the track being streamed. I then tried connecting with my iPad and there too the same issue and its likewise for Internet Radio..

I have no challenge with other connected inputs:
1. Cable TV (HDMI)
2. Blue Ray Player (HDMI)
3. DVD Player (Component - Video and Optical - Audio)

I have tried the following:
1. Reset the Microprocessor - User Manual pg 156
2. Gone through all the "Setup" settings multiple times

No luck so far. I called up the Marantz Singapore Service Center and they seem to have no experience with this unit since its quite new for them.

It would be extremely helpful if anyone here who faced a similar issue can recommend a solution. Many Thanks.

A distinction to note is that the feature that is able to calibrate dual subs on the 8801 is "Sub EQ HT", a separate and distinct feature from XT32 which also does not necessarily require XT32.

Thanks for the clarification!

Sorry I didnt get back to you but sounds like Selden Ball answered it to a T. I am also really looking at the SR5007 as well. Havent decided if it will be that one or the Denon 3313. I like the SR5007 based on price. I will be interested to get your thoughts when you get it. I plan on having a very similar setup and trying to get an amp to drive the front 3

MNaudioguy - I will certainly post thoughts. Interestingly, I think I am having less trouble finding an AVR I like than a 2-channel pre-amp with HT bypass. That has been a major struggle so far.

Yeah, I am in the same boat. The AVR purchase will go quick. I am currently trying to look for a used 5 channel amp. I dont want to shell out the cash for a Emotiva 899 roughly

MNaudioguy - I know this far afield of the SR5007 so feel free to PM me but I just bought a Bryston 9B-SST 5 channel. Came today but nothing to hook it into. :-(

Since I did not hear back from anyone including Marantz singapore agent. I kept trying on my own and finally managed to solve the issue yesterday.

There seems to be some software issue between a Marantz (SR 5007) and an Android phone's (physical volume control switch) - in my case Samsung Galaxy S3 If one tries to change the volume using the physical switch it has an effect on the input volume of the "Network" option.

You can try and recreate this at your end. Here are the steps:

1. Put receiver on the network
2. Connect for airplay using Samsung Galaxy S3 (Android 4.1.1)
3. Stream a track to the marantz reciever
4. Try reducing the volume trom the side button of the phone a few times.

You will notice that the phone somehow reduces the overall source level on the Marantz amp. Thereafter even if you play content from another device / internet radio the volume will remain low and there is no option in the setup menu to reverse this. Even if one resets the amp it does not solve the issue.

The only way to solve the issue is to go back to the phone and keep trying. It's pure luck.

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Edited by Resonate - 1/26/13 at 7:55am

Just hooked up a pair of Monitor Audio RX2 speakers (90db 6 ohms) and they have noticeably less body and presence at moderate volume than the Paradigm Titan Monitor(s) v. 5 (93db 8 ohms) with this AVR. They also require more gain to reach the same SPL and even then still lack the delivery of the Paradigms. Is the lower sensitivity/impedance of the RX2s the source of the lessened "crankability"? Can the 5007 drive 6 ohm speakers well if I want to turn it up?

I'd be interested if olfac87 and MNaudioguy are considering Marantz's own external amps, like the MM7025 or MM7055, in their search for external amps?
Edited by theSeaHawk - 1/26/13 at 3:05pm

Yes, it's the lower sensitvity as well as the lower impedance that requires more power. For example, if both sets of speakers were 8-ohm then using the 100W AVR with the 93db speakers would be equivalent to using a 200W AVR with the 90db speakers.

Thanks. What approximate power rating would be needed to drive speakers rated at 90dB efficiency/6 ohms? The Marantz MM7025 is only rated 40 watts per channel more than the AVR.
Obviously, the SR5007 "drives" them but to me the sound is anemic. I've set the AVR up with them and re-ran Audyssey, set the crossovers at 80, tried all the different sound modes and followed the settings in this thread...

The 5007 is designed to run 6-16ohm speakers so you should be able to drive them to 0db without any issue.

One would think so but, compared to the 93dB/8 ohm Paradigm Monitor v5s, these Monitor Audio Silver RX2s sound thin and lacking body. They are also brand new so perhaps they need more run-in?
I'm going to switch them to the system now driving the Paradigms and see if they sound better on it (vintage Marantz 2275 that has a great full sound).

New question:

I have a center channel speaker connected to a Bryston 9B-SST amp. I want to connect it to my (soon to own) SR5007. Is the diagram below showing the right places to make the connection? If so, does that mean I need a single RCA cable, like a subwoofer cable? (Note: the picture is of a SST2 but I own the SST - the look almost identical).

Yes. Yes.

jdsmoothie - thanks. Time to order the cables...

I have been running a 5007 for a few days now and still learning all the ins and outs. Blu rays sound great and tv sounds great. When I select airplay the sound just sounds ok. I have narrowed it down to the different sound modes. There are so many to choose from, I was wondering what you guys are using with music? I am looking for 5 channels playing not just 2.

Selecting either DD PLII - Cinema (default for most) or DD PLII - Music will simulate 5.1 from a stereo 2.0 source.

Ok, Marantz home and hooked up. Replaced an Onkyo tx-nr609. Didn't dislike the Onkyo just wanted the odyssey multi eq xt. It is a bit different at first. Seems simpler. It does seem like there are not as many audio settings compared to the Onkyo. I ran audyssey and of course, -12db on the sub. It's at 8 o'clock...it is an HSU VTF-15H. I'll run it again tomm...

^I'll spend some time reading through this forum from the beginning

Does anybody know the true RMS/continuous wattage when running all 7 channels? I read somewhere it's 67 watts/channel. And for example if you ran the MM7025 to your front L/R towers would it not also free up more power for the remaining speakers?

I have Apple tv which I believe inputs a 2 channel signal. Do some of the other settings that are "released," in the selection list when a multi channel input is detected sound better? If so what would be a way to input your music in that format?

Also on my Onkyo I listened to music in 'all channel stereo' mode which played through all speakers. This multi channel doesn't include the center.

Any Marantz people out there?