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post #1681 of 3194
Set Hdmi 1 to primary and video only which is connected to the projector. Still can't view 3d.
post #1682 of 3194
I would have guessed that U = USA version and E = European, as for the projectors' suffixes. Just a hunch but may be correct?
post #1683 of 3194
I would have guessed that U = USA version and E = European, as for the projectors' suffixes. Just a hunch but may be correct?
post #1684 of 3194
Try a friend's 3D player in your system - to eliminate or confirm whether it's the projector or Oppo. Alternatively, you could try your Oppo in a friend's set-up, if possible. Or are these not options?
post #1685 of 3194
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Originally Posted by meatling View Post

Set Hdmi 1 to primary and video only which is connected to the projector. Still can't view 3d.
Robert makes good recommendations. I was going to add, have you eliminated HDMI 2 temporarily? Just send the video via HDMI 1 when it's the only thing connected. Have you verified that your cables aren't the issue either? Make sure they're at least high-speed Category 2.

But from what you've already described, it sounds like the Oppo thinks your primary connection is to the AVR since that's where it's trying to determine the 3D device and failing. It's worth emailing/calling Oppo on this and have them help you get it set up.
post #1686 of 3194
Awesome. Got it to work. Hdmi 1 primary and video only to panny projector and Hdmi 2 audio to onkyo receiver. Thanks for the suggestions.

One question left. Lost the receivers osd ( volume, thx setting etc.) any way to get this back or view it some other way?????
post #1687 of 3194
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Originally Posted by meatling View Post

Awesome. Got it to work. Hdmi 1 primary and video only to panny projector and Hdmi 2 audio to onkyo receiver. Thanks for the suggestions.

One question left. Lost the receivers osd ( volume, thx setting etc.) any way to get this back or view it some other way?????
Good to hear on the config front.

As to the AVR, the answer is no because you're bypassing it altogether. As long as you need 3D, you won't be able to use the AVR for video and therefore no AVR overlay. You might consider an A/B HDMI switch so you don't have to constantly change connections between 2D and 3D viewing. When you view 2D, you can still go through your AVR and get your overlay info from the AVR and a switch makes it easy to go between the two if that makes any sense. wink.gif

My older Sony AVR did that and I actually never liked it. The front display is good enough for me, but I do understand the need if you have the equipment in a closet or somewhere not visible.
post #1688 of 3194
Just wanted to say thanks for the help in getting it all together. This forum is great. Yeah I have the equipment outside of the theater. I will look into a hdmi switch for the Hdmi 2 out and run audio and video. Thanks again for the advice and help. Just watched Wreck it Ralph and it was jaw dropping. The wife was in awe as well so that says something. The oppo 93, onkyo 3007, nine Polk lsi 9s, two svs subs, the panny 8000 and a custom Carada 2.37 x122 inch screen is really Kool. Take care and happy viewing.
post #1689 of 3194
I just joined the forum after purchasing a Panasonic AE8000U. The many postings here were immensely valuable in helping me make the decision. It came down to a choice between the Epson 5020 and the Panny 8000. I wanted the brightest lamp I could get for under $3000 to handle my 156" 2.35:1 unity gain screen. The lens memory ultimately was the deciding factor as I'm mainly interested in watching scope movies. I have no experience with 3D, but am looking forward to trying it out when my free glasses arrive. The $200 cash rebate and the extra year of warranty coverage made the decision that much easier.

Anyway, I've been testing out the 8000 and have noticed some pixel alignment error which I've read is to be expected on 3LCD projectors. The convergence is off by a couple pixels which shows up on the edges of text, but is not apparent from a distance. I played around with the user controls, lens shift, and positioning of the projector, and noticed something that I don't understand. When the projector is placed on its adjustable legs, the pixels are displaced on the vertical edges of objects. When I flip the projector over, the pixels are displaced on the horizontal edges. Why is that?

I also noticed that the convergence error is a bit worse when I mount the projector upside down from the ceiling (my plan) versus placing it on a table about 2' off the floor. In both cases, the lens is even with the top/bottom of the screen, respectively, so the vertical lens shift is the same in either position. Is there something about inverting the projector that affects picture quality?

One other observation that has me puzzled. When I attempt to focus the image using the focus test screen, I can focus the vertical bars sharply, I can focus the horizontal bars sharply, but I cannot focus both sharply at the same time. Is that to be expected? Why? Optical distortion in the lens?

I've contacted the seller (AGI) about these observations, and they are looking into the possibility of a swap. Should I press for another machine? Are my concerns justified?

Thanks for any perspective you can provide.

Cheers.
post #1690 of 3194
Im thinking about getting the 8000, its a good price now,how the 2d pq compared to the 4000? Will my Chief universal mount work on the 8000,its designed for the 3000,4000.My pre pro itsnt 1.4 how would I get 3d? thanks
post #1691 of 3194
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

Im thinking about getting the 8000, its a good price now,how the 2d pq compared to the 4000? Will my Chief universal mount work on the 8000,its designed for the 3000,4000.My pre pro itsnt 1.4 how would I get 3d? thanks

The 8000 is my first projector, so I can not add much about how it compares to the 4000. Sorry!

About 1.4 - what is the brand/model of your 3D blu-ray player? One option is to run HDMI straight from the player to the Panny (video only) and then an optical cable from the player to your AVR (audio only).

Of course, you aren't going to be able to see your AVR GUI at the PJ. But, hey....that means that you don't have to spend any cash now to upgrade your receiver. So, not a bad deal at all.

Cheers!
post #1692 of 3194
thanks I got a Sony 790 blu-ray it has 2 hdmi I forgot that it can be used this way one to pre-pro,one to projector.
post #1693 of 3194
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

thanks I got a Sony 790 blu-ray it has 2 hdmi I forgot that it can be used this way one to pre-pro,one to projector.

I have a different brand of player and it has two HDMI outputs. So, you can select one for video only and the second one for audio. Check if your Sony can do this too and that should simply the process.

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post #1694 of 3194
thanks ill do that,im sure it does,im still in the planning stage or just upgrade fever,I should just take a couple asprin & forget it!!!
post #1695 of 3194
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

thanks ill do that,im sure it does,im still in the planning stage or just upgrade fever,I should just take a couple asprin & forget it!!!

LOL.........good one!

I'm in the same spot, but thinking on a subwoofer.......wink.gif
post #1696 of 3194
Hey guys, I just picked up an AE8000 last week from B&H and I wanted to get some opinions. let me start off by saying this is my first projector, so I don't know what's normal and what's not. generally speaking, the thing is not very bright. Its installed in a basement with no windows and even with all the lights off I've never had an OMG moment that so may people have shared. again, I don't know if that's due to my not having experienced a lot of POS moments with prior projectors, lol.

I'm experiencing some of the color misalignment that others have lamented in prior posts. I seem to have good color consistency in the edges, but the greens are wandering maybe 8-10 pixels towards the upper left, and the reds are wandering 4 or 5 pixels north. Because of this I absolutely cannot get it focused. when connected to an HTPC via HDMI it looks atrocious. its almost impossible to read any of the text under the icons. I also feel like its displaying a lower resolution than 1080p, everything has that soft but still stepped aliasing of something that's being crappily processed. I feel like I have a lemon.

here's a photo of the misalignment. any tips would really be appreciated, I don't want to have to call Leo.

post #1697 of 3194
I dont have the 8000 yet but when you have white letters on a black background you will get a little blue halo,yours does have alot have you worked on focusing the projector?
post #1698 of 3194
The blue halo has nothing to do with focusing.
post #1699 of 3194
the pic looked a little out of focus,your correct Mark it could be the lcd panels out of a line.
post #1700 of 3194
I was thinking about trading up from my pany 4000 to the 8000 but after reading the last 50+ pages on the 8000 im not sure,has some of the problems like the winning noise convergence been fixed? B&H photo has it for 2500.00 now plus 200.00 rebate,its very temping now!!!!
Edited by dholmes54 - 7/7/13 at 12:48pm
post #1701 of 3194
This how mine looks. The fuzzy focus is not the camera.

post #1702 of 3194
hows your pq when watching movies clarks,any convergence issues? My pany 4000 has no problems with convergence,when whites & blacks are together theres a very very small hint of blue.
post #1703 of 3194
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Originally Posted by dholmes54 View Post

how the 2d pq compared to the 4000?

2D is better than the AE4000 in brightness, contrast and black level, but not game changing. The image it makes is very similar in feel to the AE4000. I wouldn't upgrade unless your AE4000 needs replacement or you have a found a good home for it. If I had to do it again I would have waited for the next generation Panasonic or gone JVC.
post #1704 of 3194
The misconvergence is not noticeable to me when watching a movie until the credits are displayed. Even, then, I have to sit fairly close to the screen to see the color separation. Still, I wonder if I were to compare pictures side-by-side with a well-aligned projector, would I be able to see a difference? I'm thinking I could. Would the picture be as sharp? I'm not expecting perfection, but after spending $2500, I don't want a substandard projector. If all I could see is a "very, very small hint of blue" I'd be very, very happy.

I'm still waiting to hear from Audio General about a swap. The tech's initial reaction was that two pixel misalignment was excessive. I think they need Panasonic's okay because they say that they do not sell refurbished products.

BTW, I love the projector in every other respect. I'm projecting onto a 156" diagonal scope screen in Eco mode and find the brightness of the picture quite adequate to my taste in a windowless theater room (Cinema 1 mode). The 16:9 movies are brighter, but just barely. I'm anxious to try 3-D, but that will have to wait.
post #1705 of 3194
Hi,

I am looking to replace my Sanyo Z2000 (for gaming and movies). Is there a chance that Panasonic will release a follow up projector to the PT-AE8000 (PT-AE9000?) by the end of november 2013.
If so , what are the odds. My buying decision is base on the fact that I can wait until the end of november. As of now, the Sony VPL-HW50ES and the Panasonic PT-AE8000 are on my short list but I would prefer the Panasonic replacement of the PT-AE8000

Thanks
post #1706 of 3194
It's possible, maybe even likely, given Panasonic's history of releasing a new home cinema model almost every year since 2000. Also, the improvement of AE8000 over the AE7000 was not that significant. I thought about waiting, too, but figured that the "AE9000" would be priced above $3000, and didn't want to spend that much. With the rebate, the AE8000 cost me $2249. If price isn't a huge factor, and you aren't in a big rush, I'd wait and see.
post #1707 of 3194
Just got mine setup. I replaced an LG 181. I was pushing the LG from 22-24 feet from a storage room behind my theater room. I was happy even though I know that the ideal range would have been up closer. I mounted the panny in the same place and quite frankly the picture is still outstanding in my theater which is close to bat cave dark in most instances. I purchased the ceiling mount, but now I'm not sure it's necessary to move the projector closer. Anyone got a feeling whether moving the projector to the recommended distance would significantly improve the picture? I really have never gone to any extremes past focus and fitting the picture to the screen. I didn't notice any issues with convergence during focusing. The LG was off about a pixel which I didn't notice at my viewing distance. I haven't received the 3d glasses yet so I have nothing to judge on that yet.
post #1708 of 3194
The proof is in the pudding, billybobg. I used the ProjectorCentral.com Projection Calculator Pro as a guide to help me work out my design.The screen size, screen gain, distance from the screen, ambient light control, theater wall and ceiling color, picture mode, and bulb level all go into determining the picture quality from a brightness perspective. I have a 156" diagonal, unity gain scope screen in a cave environment. The projector is ceiling mounted 18'-5" from the screen. 2.35:1 movies projected in Cinema 2 mode and Eco bulb level are plenty bright, in my opinion. Picture quality overall looks good although I've detected a 2+ pixel misalignment and have less than perfect focus. I plan to have Panasonic realign my LCD panels, if possible, under warranty and check out the focus.
post #1709 of 3194
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Originally Posted by Clarks View Post

The proof is in the pudding, billybobg. I used the ProjectorCentral.com Projection Calculator Pro as a guide to help me work out my design.The screen size, screen gain, distance from the screen, ambient light control, theater wall and ceiling color, picture mode, and bulb level all go into determining the picture quality from a brightness perspective. I have a 156" diagonal, unity gain scope screen in a cave environment. The projector is ceiling mounted 18'-5" from the screen. 2.35:1 movies projected in Cinema 2 mode and Eco bulb level are plenty bright, in my opinion. Picture quality overall looks good although I've detected a 2+ pixel misalignment and have less than perfect focus. I plan to have Panasonic realign my LCD panels, if possible, under warranty and check out the focus.

I'm curious, when it comes to under warranty realignments...how is the shipping handled? I too have a slight mis-alignment, but can't decide if it's worth the hassle.
post #1710 of 3194
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Originally Posted by Stump909 View Post

I'm curious, when it comes to under warranty realignments...how is the shipping handled? I too have a slight mis-alignment, but can't decide if it's worth the hassle.

My understanding is that you contact the Panasonic Projector Technical Support (1-855-772-8324) and explain your problem. They'll probably ask for photos showing the problem. Some misalignment is to be expected, so Panasonic may not agree to a repair. If repair is needed, you ship it to their Service Center in Kansas at your expense. If the unit is still under warranty, the repairs are made at no additional cost to you. They make the repairs and ship it back at their expense.

If the unit is out of warranty, they will estimate the charge to repair it and get your okay before going forward. There is a minimum charge ($130 - $395 depending on the projector model) which you'll have to pay even if you refuse to go ahead with the repairs. You will also have to cover the return shipping cost. Cleaning of the projector is not covered under warranty.

Now in my case, the same day that I received my new AE8000, I set it up for a thorough check out. When I discovered the misalignment problem, I contacted my Panasonic authorized reseller with a photo and description of the problem. The reseller agreed that it was a significant issue and agreed to look into swapping it for a another unit. They contacted Panasonic to get authorization for a replacement unit, but were told that the AE8000 is out of stock at the moment and it would be 2 to 5 weeks for another shipment from Japan. The reseller had stock, and was willing to send me one of theirs, or I could send in my projector to the Panasonic National Service Center for repair under warranty. I chose the latter because: 1) Panasonic agreed to cover the shipping cost, and 2) I was concerned that a replacement unit might also exhibit a convergence error, maybe even worse than what I now have. Panasonic indicated a quick turn around was likely, as well.

All this was coordinated by the reseller (AGI). I was very pleased with their response to my issue, and that of Panasonic, as well. As I stated, normally, I would have had to cover the shipping cost to Panasonic, and I've heard tell that turn around can be rather slow, but since my projector was defective on arrival (DOA), I guess special consideration was given. I'll let you know how things turn out when I get my projector back. So far, I'm very pleased with how my concerns were handled by both AGI and Panasonic.
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