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post #601 of 1598
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Originally Posted by widerscreen View Post

Normal for LCD . You will see ghosting at an Imax 3-d movie if you look for it and by Imax standards that would be normal.

"Normal for LCD" is still a statement that is very much subjective and covers a pretty big range, as you can see from people saying there is 'none', 'little' and 'it's horrible'. So it really doesn't help people to just state one or the other. Even most reviews vary heavily but no review postet good pictures yet. I think that both the new Panasonic and Epson are about the best you can get today in terms of LCD + Cross-Talk + reasonable price but still would like to judge it as good as possible for myself. The cross-talk I've seen on every subtitle in AVatar in my little Preview certainly was very noticable and distracting, so if CInema 2 further reduces the effect that would be great to know/see (thanks @ WilliamG).

I haven't been to an IMAX-Theater recently but the regular theaters have improved massively in the last 2 years. I haven't seen any cross-talk whatsoever in my last 3-4 visits whereas I've seen quite some in the beginning of the 3D-hype. Also all our theaters, including IMAX, have passive systems and while I am not sure what they use as projection-system I was always thinking they use either 2 optical systems or a 3-chip-DLP-like design combined with passive glasses.
post #602 of 1598
For those wanting to see the PT-AE8000U in action, here is a photo I took with my cheap phone camera.

I have a 120" screen



Now imagine how much better it will look in person? smile.gif
Edited by jacksback - 11/30/12 at 4:30am
post #603 of 1598
3D question here. Last night I tried to play a 3D blu-ray for the first time ever, so I was not sure what to expect. I don't have a 3D-capable blu-ray player so I played it in my HTPC with PowerDVD 10.

So I loaded the blu-ray and selected Play 3D. I didn't see double images so obviously I was not looking at a 3D image. Then I figured out that you have to engage 3D by clicking the 3D button inside PowerDVD. I was surprised by what happened next: my display resolution in the PC suddenly re-scaled itself to approximately half the normal 1920x1080. The blu-ray image was definitely in 3D but at about half the resolution. Is that the way this is supposed to work?

I can't yet comment on the quality of the 3D image because I do not yet have my glasses. I'm just trying to work out the technical bugs in advance so I can enjoy 3D as soon as the glasses arrive.

Edit: I've played with this a bit more. No matter what I do, when 3D is engaged the display resolution in the PC automatically switches from 1920x1080 to 1024x768.
Edited by HMenke - 11/30/12 at 12:24pm
post #604 of 1598
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Originally Posted by billmac View Post

Mopar_Mudder, when I designed my theater around the Panny 3000, I never thought a replacement down the road would have an offset lens. I still don't know why they changed the design, but I hope it's for the better. I just ordered a $35 accessory for my Chief mount that will allow me to shift the projector within 3/4" from dead center. As soon as I receive it and set it up, I will let you know how it works.
Cheers,
Bill

Let us know how it works, I use a Chief mount also. Still not crazy about have the projector not hanging from the center of the pole, but I guess we have no choice.
post #605 of 1598
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Originally Posted by jacksback View Post

For those wanting to see the PT-AE8000U in action, here is a photo I took with my cheap phone camera.
I have a 120" screen

Now imagine how much better it will look in person? smile.gif

What kind of screen do you have?
post #606 of 1598
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Originally Posted by ChrisE123 View Post

What kind of screen do you have?

1.3 gain glass beaded electric screen
post #607 of 1598
To all the B-Stock buyers-

I am probably wrong, but I thought I would pass this along. I bought my AE8000 one week before the $100 rebate, 2 pairs of glasses and 3 year/2000hr warranty from ProjectorPeople. The offer/rebate at the time of my purchase was 2 free pairs of glasses. I filled out the form yesterday. Line 5 of the terms states "Product must be new and un-used. No B-Stock Product allowed.

Just thought I would pass this along, as it may be something you want to check out for your particular offer.
post #608 of 1598
Can anyone point me to the best place to purchase a few pairs of glasses (small)?

Thanks!
post #609 of 1598
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater View Post

I bought my AE8000 one week before the $100 rebate, 2 pairs of glasses and 3 year/2000hr warranty from ProjectorPeople.

Me too. I'm not too bummed about the $100 (prices tend to come down) but I really feel shorted on the warranty extension, since my past experience with Panasonic's reliability on these things has not been stellar.
post #610 of 1598
Regarding the offset of the lens:

I may be nuts, but I believe there is a bit of "keystoning"... i.e. the HEIGHT of the left side of the image is a bit different than the height of the right side. I do not believe there is menu item to address this - only to correct "standard" keystoning. To correct, I overshoot my screen a little, so the top edges get absorbed into the felt frame around the screen.
post #611 of 1598
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater View Post

Regarding the offset of the lens:
I may be nuts, but I believe there is a bit of "keystoning"... i.e. the HEIGHT of the left side of the image is a bit different than the height of the right side. I do not believe there is menu item to address this - only to correct "standard" keystoning. To correct, I overshoot my screen a little, so the top edges get absorbed into the felt frame around the screen.

Is it possible you projector is slightly angled towards the screen? That would create the height-difference.
post #612 of 1598
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater View Post

Can anyone point me to the best place to purchase a few pairs of glasses (small)?
Thanks!

Audiogeneral sell them for $65 a pair

http://audiogeneral.com/Panasonic/ptae8000u.php#accessories
post #613 of 1598
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Originally Posted by jacksback View Post

1.3 gain glass beaded electric screen

Thanks for the info.

Early November I saw the TY-EW3D3MU 3D glasses on Amazons website for $57 but now they have gone up to $66. The price there seems to fluctuate a lot.
post #614 of 1598
Thanks for the info. Will be ordering some glasses today.

I will also check about projector being "rotated"
post #615 of 1598
Hey I would like to add I just received my 1-Darblet DVP5000 to hook to my chain of toys and its really impressive with the 8000. The trick is not to over do it but tweaking just the right amount brings the PQ up another notch. Also I got the DVD step up 3-D revolution and No the not for the story but the audio and Picture 3-D demo. ALL I can say is WOW! The 3-D was Super cool and yes I did see Ghosting in a few spots but not anything distracting as I was looking for it. I do have my glasses set to bright but Ill be honest the 3-D was off the hook. So Im a happy camper and I do believe others will be too.

This is my setup:
Panasonic PT-AE8000 w/ panamorph lens 1-OPPO BDP-103 blu ray 3-lipsch KL-650-THX Bookshelf Speakers 2-Klipsch THX (side)Surround Speakers KS-525-THX 2- Klipsch THX Surround Speakers KS-525-THX(rear surrounds) 2-Klipsch KW-120-THX Subwoofer 1-Klipsch KA-1000-THX Amplifier 1-XPA-5 Five Channel Audio Power Amplifier 1-UPA-2 Two Channel Audio Power Amplifier 1-YAMAHA RX-A2000 RXA2000 3D 7.2 CH HOME THEATER RECEIVER 1-Lumagen Radiance Mini 3D 1-Darblet DVP5000 155'' center stage ATS photo-1.JPG 75k .JPG file photo-5.JPG 139k .JPG file photo-6.JPG 96k .JPG file
post #616 of 1598
Hello,
I Created an account because I have been following this thread prior to buying my AE8000u. I only use it for games and movies right now. I wanted to post for anyone looking at this specific projector. Before I post, I would like to say that this is my FIRST projector and was VERY shaky about either buying this or a Panasonic VT50 65"/55" tv. I am very new and open to any advice I can get. as for the set up, my projector sits on a 71" bookcase about 12' away from a wall. On my wall ( I am a poor college student) hangs some $11 (6' x 9') painter's canvas that I project on. Right now it is still a little wrinkly but im working on getting more tension on it.

Ok First impressions:
With my light on (its a fixed light that is about 6' away from the screen and between the projector and the screen)
AMAZING! I set it up and it looks great. I would go as far as comparing it to an LCD tv! Great picture,
3D does not look as good with the lights on.
very smooth!
Lights off
UBER AMAZING! This projector is something that I would pull the trigger on over and over again!
Its details are amazing, and the sharpness is something I wouldnt believe a projector would put out

I have watched Surfs Up on Blu Ray! The clarity of the water and the fine textures on the penguins black coats!

I have researched this projector for about 2 months since it came out, and Boy am I glad I got this projector.

Unlike some on here, I played Black Ops 2 on game mode...
NO LAG
if there is any lag then I couldnt feel the difference going from my tv to this projector.

Any questions PLease feel free to as me and I will do my best to answer about this amazing piece of technology.
Please remember this is my first projector, so I apologize in advanced for inexperienced answers or terms!
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post #617 of 1598
After reading all the posts and comments ... and going back and forth between the Epson and Panasonic, decided to go for the Panasonic. I really like my PT-AE4000. Its being a awesome projector, so decided to stick with the brand. I'm looking forward to what the 8000 brings, and hopefully I luck out and get one that is reasonably aligned ! Although .. my AE4000 was always a bit out of focus on one side of the picture when viewing fixed overlay text. Movies and anything else were never a issue.

PP and VA are still doing the "thanksgiving price" BTW. I went with PP since I would have had to pay sales tax with VA !
post #618 of 1598
So I have another fan question. I am watching a 3D movie, and was using ECO more for the lamp. I wanted to brighten it up a bit, so I switched the lamp to NORMAL. As soon as I did, the fan kicked in and became pretty audible. It is not a mechanical noise, just moving air. It seems that in NORMAL, the fan is on high gear, but on ECO it is hardly noticable.

Is this working like everyone elses?
post #619 of 1598
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Originally Posted by WannaTheater View Post

So I have another fan question. I am watching a 3D movie, and was using ECO more for the lamp. I wanted to brighten it up a bit, so I switched the lamp to NORMAL. As soon as I did, the fan kicked in and became pretty audible. It is not a mechanical noise, just moving air. It seems that in NORMAL, the fan is on high gear, but on ECO it is hardly noticable.
Is this working like everyone elses?

Normal.
post #620 of 1598
Thanks!
post #621 of 1598
I recently purchased the PT-AE8000U and it is my first projector, so please be kind:

Is anyone here using a 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 screen that can provide detail instructions on how to correctly use the lens memory? I'm trying to project a 16:9 format movie on a 2.40:1 screen.

Thanks in advance for your help!
post #622 of 1598
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

I recently purchased the PT-AE8000U and it is my first projector, so please be kind:
Is anyone here using a 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 screen that can provide detail instructions on how to correctly use the lens memory? I'm trying to project a 16:9 format movie on a 2.40:1 screen.
Thanks in advance for your help!


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Originally Posted by HMenke View Post

Thee's a way to deal with this; just remember these two iron-clad rules:
#1: Up/Down lens shift position is dictated by the 1.78:1 image
#2: Left/Right lens shift is dictated by the 2.35:1 image
In the case of #1, you "don't care" if the 1.78:1 image is not perfectly centered in the 2.35:1 screen. You only "care" if it is in the proper alignment vertically.
In the case of #2, you can use digital image shift to center the 2:35:1 picture vertically because you "don't care" if you are throwing away dark pixels above or below the viewable image. You only "care" if it is in the proper alignment horizontally.
Edit: I posted this tutorial for setting up the PT-AE3000U for CIH a few years ago. The principles still apply to the PT-AE8000U.
post #623 of 1598
^^^^

Thanks for the information. Either, I'm still doing something wrong (no surprise!). Or, my understanding of this function wasn't correct at all.

I mean, I was able to save two different memory lens configurations as follows:

One for 16:9 format, that pretty much fills the 2:35.1 screen (top to bottom), but left right/left black bars on the sides.

One for 2.35:1 format, that fills the whole screen.

I was expecting that by using the lens memory function and activating the Auto Switching function, blacks bars will be pushed out of the screen while watching 16:9 material.

Again, new to this PJ world thing, so I'll appreciate further clarification on this subject.
post #624 of 1598
CR136124, I wanted to do the same thing. I found that if you set top and bottom mask to full in your 16:9 setting it will force the image to fill your 2:35 screen.

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post #625 of 1598
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Originally Posted by pogal View Post

CR136124, I wanted to do the same thing. I found that if you set top and bottom mask to full in your 16:9 setting it will force the image to fill your 2:35 screen.
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Valid, but by using the upper/lower masking area, actually we are cropping the 16:9 image. Right?
post #626 of 1598
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Valid, but by using the upper/lower masking area, actually we are cropping the 16:9 image. Right?

Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for, but when you are using a 2.35 screen and watching a 1.78 movie/tv you will have the black bars on the sides regardless. If you were to fill that area in ( I don't even know if that is possible) your picture would be very distorted because you would be stretching the image horizontally but not vertically.
post #627 of 1598
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Valid, but by using the upper/lower masking area, actually we are cropping the 16:9 image. Right?

Yes. It sounds like you have your presets correct where 16:9 will have blank screen "black bars" on the sides. But if you want to crop and fill the screen, that's fine if it makes you happy. smile.gif One thing you can do is set up a zoom memory where 16:9 is a little larger and then use the masking feature to crop the top/bottom overspill. I find that 1.85:1 films work great when zoomed to around 2.0:1, especially if you crop a little more off the bottom than the top.
post #628 of 1598
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Originally Posted by 5mark View Post

Yes. It sounds like you have your presets correct where 16:9 will have blank screen "black bars" on the sides. But if you want to crop and fill the screen, that's fine if it makes you happy. smile.gif One thing you can do is set up a zoom memory where 16:9 is a little larger and then use the masking feature to crop the top/bottom overspill. I find that 1.85:1 films work great when zoomed to around 2.0:1, especially if you crop a little more off the bottom than the top.

Actually, I'm not happy with that........LOL.

Oh well, good thing is that I didn't settle on the screen yet. So, I just basically used Scotch blue tape to simulate a 2.39:1 screen (blue tape used to frame the screen) while projecting a movie using that particular format. Then, I was playing with the memory function to see how it handles 16:9 formats.

I guess time it is time to go back to my original plan of purchasing one of this multi-format screens:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10829&cs_id=1082910&p_id=7970&seq=1&format=2
post #629 of 1598
I would reconsider the multi-format screen if I were you. Have a smaller vertical sized 2.35:1 image will just seem...non-impactful. The first time I zoomed to fill a 2.35:1 screen, my family was blown away by the pure cinematic effect of a giant widescreen movie in our home.
post #630 of 1598
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Originally Posted by HMenke View Post

I would reconsider the multi-format screen if I were you. Have a smaller vertical sized 2.35:1 image will just seem...non-impactful. The first time I zoomed to fill a 2.35:1 screen, my family was blown away by the pure cinematic effect of a giant widescreen movie in our home.

Are you saying you'd rather have the 2.35:1 screen, & then 'zoom out' (shrink the image) for 16:9 content? I guess this is better than the other way around, since 16:9 content tends to look bigger than 2.35:1 content...
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