Originally Posted by somenut1
IS asking for all of the above asking to much?? Lol
Well, no, not really, but you can add tons of features and gain no sonic improvement by adding a new entry level AVR. You can gain sonic improvement and not gain one single feature by replacing speakers. And so on. They are not always mutually exclusive, but the next element is tied to the entire goal exercise very closely: budget?
Sonic improvement: Any AVR with Audyssey XT 32, and get an Audyssey Pro installed to calibrate it for you. This will also free up the Fosgate amp and processor which you won't need. There is no need for stand alone power amps, and some very good reasons not to use them. For example, using the pre-amp outputs often eliminates several Audyssey features because the total system gain is no longer under control. Modern AVRs in the mid to upper price range offer performance that rivals stand alone amps. You'll hear no improvement by using the amps, though they technically will test better. (lots more to know here, been covered elsewhere)
Sonic improvement: subs. Not as big an improvement as the above.
Sonic improvement: surround speakers. Side surrounds should be dipole/tripole, rears can be direct. It would be nice to have all surrounds tambre matched, and even nicer if they were tambre matched to the LCR, but to do that you'll change all your speakers.
Features: Get an Oppo BDP-103 when it becomes available. It will eliminate your need for a CD player, a DVD player, and whatever that Numark thing does. You'll love the high-res audio capabilities of the Oppo, and it does about as well as is possible on 30-year-old formats like CDs.
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Reliability: just replacing old stuff will do that, but only if the new stuff is good. Avoid entry level AVRs from all manufacturers. I prefer the build quality on the Denon line, but have recently been impressed by Pioneer, though they lack Audyssey.
I've just outlined solutions to all your goals except the unknown budget. From others of your posts, I think you're fairly low on that one, but don't recall the figures. As I posted before, you can up the budget by selling off your old gear. If you're looking only to buy used, it's really hard to make a specific recommendation. But you could find your best deal and ask about it here. An AVR can be a 10 year life item, speakers, if done right the first time, can be a 20 year investment. Disc players 5 years, any kind of display device, 5 years (because the technology changes so fast). Buying used places you pretty far into all those timelines already. There's some wisdom in getting one new piece like the AVR and funding it with divesting old stuff. Then, as budget allows, move to the next piece. I'd have a hard time buying a 5 year old AVR because the new stuff, even at the same price as the used piece (which means a more entry-level device), is better in many aspects. Don't buy used, cheap junk, it's not worth it. If you must buy used, go for the highest-end stuff you can find, it at least retains its value longer, though the feature-set will be the weak spot.Edited by has7738 - 10/6/12 at 7:13am