Official Sony VPL-HW50ES Owners Thread - Page 49

Has anyone done any full Grey field uniformity tests? I just started watching some old Twilight Zones on BluRay and now notice that the left of my screen is slightly pink in the last quarter of the screen?

With these discs I happened to notice that the I have bright corners. The pink shading does seem to be worse at start-up and get better as it warms up.


I am told we can adjust the shading out in the service menu, does anyone have a tutorial or guide I can look at, before I go down the swap out road?


I love the PJ otherwise, I am just a little disappointed in the light pink shading because now I see it.

Thanks,

Be sure to turn the color all the way down before making any judge ment sometimes even if its bw it may have some shading.

No it's there on XBOX dashboard... PS3 dashboard when displaying grey backgrounds. I am not picking up on moire etc..
It looks like a very mildy burnt polarizer in an older lcd...kinda.. if you know what I mean.

O I know exactly what your talkng about. I am leary of sxrd myself for that very reason. My 50 is just perfect. I rember the rp sxrd days I must have returned 3 or 4 of those sets. It did not have to become a green blob for me.They would discolor in a few hrs and generaly stablize.

To redo all of that would be quite a chore. it has to be done for many different levels of brigghtness 8 or more I think maybe more and in grids. Very hard to do by eye. I guess some have done it. Might look over in the early pearl threads.

Guys,

Random question,

My lens is starting to get extremely dusty, what would be the best way to clean it, and with what solution and material to wipe it with ?

Hello,
First off want to thank everyone for the valuable posts and recommendations on this board. Thanks to the past 49 pages of posts I ordered an hw50es from AVS for my first home theater (under construction this week!). Appreciate the reviews and insights.
My next project is to find a screen: I am a rookie at this and wondering if anyone has a moderately priced screen (ideally under $1k) that they would recommend. Not looking for anything huge--92" diagonal, fixed frame, in a room with no ambient light (basement). Seating will be 10-14 feet from screen.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated--thanks!

to be honest, at that distance, i think 92 will be too small....then again this is coming from a guy who is currently watching on 111in wall projection, at about 6-8 feet away

what do you think about 120inch from 14 feet?

Hi,

I currently have a JVC X3 (RS40) and I am worried about the continued lamp issues that everyone is complaining about so I may sell the X3 and buy the Sony hw50es. Has anyone here come from a JVC to the 50es and if so can you share your thoughts on the change?

Thanks,

Completely agree on HDMI cable quality positing. Being digital it should either work or not. There are no shades between 0 and 1.

A question that I do have though and can't find any answer on is the version of HDMI that is required with this projector. Can anyone tell me if 1.4 is ample or if 1.4a is required?

Well, I'm at 126" diagonal and 14'...I was worried it would be too big but after a couple months I'm wishing I could've gone larger! The best advice I got was to get as large of a screen as will fit on your wall!

my buddy does 119 from i would say around 10-13 feet.. and personally i think that looks very good.

i think that size and distance should be just fine.... anymore and you may start to notice any imperfections in the picture lol


111in at 6ish feet is basically approaching that too close thing im talking about lol so i move back to about 8 and im good.

thank you brothers i have 2 choices and am stuck: 120inches and 135 inches (we dont have 126 in turkey) and seating distance 14 maybe 15 feet

Best to not touch the lens unless you have no other choice. You will likely add small scratches every time your clean.

Use one of these and just blow the worst of it off. Don't touch the lens and don't use any of those canned air solutions.
http://www.amazon.com/Giottos-AA1900-Rocket-Blaster-Large/dp/B00017LSPI

thanks Bart...


anyone else have any comments on this? I have one of those screen cleaning clothes that is EXTREMELY SOFT and used that, i didnt end up scratching anything, but i have a heavy duty air blower as well that i might try from far back to not irritate the lens.

Pe
Personally, I'd go 135" if it fits. Especially if you have some flexibility with the seating (i.e. 14 vs 15ft).

I tried to use a special lens cleaning cloth that I use on my Nikon lenses and ended up with a very small scratch. There must be a coating on the lens and I've used this cloth with my camera lenses without issue for years. Thankfully it doesn't show up anywhere, and I've noticed the dust doesn't either. Going forward, if I need to clean the lens, I'll be using the blow method.

BTW - Has anyone put a clear lens filter on this PJ? What size?

I've never had to clean my lens with any of the projectors I have owned. Did it look dirty?

I only use canned air to blow off any dust.

Coming from an RS45:

- Black levels are better on the JVC. Contrast is better as well. The black floor is better and scenes such as starfields will have deeper blacks on the JVC.
- I use FI and the FI is smoother with less artifacts than the JVC.
- With RC in it's minimum settings the picture is sharper and cleaner than on my RS45.
- Out of the box color accuracy to my eyes looks better on the Sony. I'm definitely no expect in this area.
- The picture is noticeably brighter.
- 3D = no comparison. Much brighter on the Sony, FI is active in 3D and motion looks MUCH smoother because of this. Far less ghosting but the Sony isn't ghost free.

Just my quick 2 cents.

I think that depends on the room right? I mean this is from Art on the RS46 and Sony HW50ES. To my eyes the Sony looks better and has the better blacks in this star-field... Not sure if we can clearly call one better than the other...? I now pictures don't tell the whole story and settings and conditions might be different, but Art has seen both....

"Here we again start, with the DLA-X35, followed by the Sony VPL-HW50ES. The Sony on this image has the slight advantage in blacks. Observe the pause icon, from that you can see the X35's pause is a bit more "blown out" indicating that the X35's image is a touch more overexposed. That's enough to make up for most of the difference, although, overall, I'll give the Sony VPL-HW50ES the advantage. Although the Sony seems to have more pop, note also that there seems to be more range of brightness in the stars. Some of that extra pop seems, therefore to be a bit gamma difference related."

Sony looks better IMO

Trust xb1032 on this one,

I demoed the JVC RS40 in my house and the black levels are indeed better on the JVC, especially the black floor. A very good example of this is the US version of 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'. The first 3 minutes of this movie (01:00 - 03:18) is a great test to see just how good or bad your blacks are. The RS40 handled this scene very well. Blacks looked black and I was extremely impressed, the Sony however looked medium grey in comparison. Don't get me wrong, the Sony is no slouch in terms of black levels, it does great with other scenes and is among the best I've seen. It's weakness is very dark scenes with hardly any light. This is when you will truly see the benefits of a JVC. As far as contrast, I would say the Sony is just as good as the RS40, maybe slightly better.

But with that said I prefer the overall performance of the Sony. Its has much better colors out the box, excellent contrast and pop, excellent motion, very sharp with RC, very bright (over 1100 calibrated lumens), much better 3D, etc.

In the end, if you have a theater that will truly accommodate the JVC (complete light control, black velvet walls and ceiling, can make pitch black) and can turn down the IRIS to lowest setting, you will truly see the benefits of the JVC and be amazed by it's black levels.

Hi HW50es owners. Can you tell me how the xtalk/ghost of the HW50 compare to a series 6 or higher 3D plasma TV?

Thanks

Those photos should not be used to compare the black level performance of these projectors. The only way to properly evaluate the black level performance is to have each projector in an A/B stack, properly calibrated and light output equalized.

In a light controlled and more importantly, light treated room (ie. black floor / ceiling), the majority of folks here would know which projector is which in my HT setup. The 5020 / HW50 cannot reach the same black floor as the JVC's. They are both impressive though for non LCOS and definitely several steps above the Panasonic 8000.

I totally understand, but from what I have seen the people who truly have a dedicated light controlled blacked out room are few and far between. So at the end of the day if you room is not optimal to provide you with the benefit of the JVC blacks, then you should look at other features to help make your decision.

I guess my question is this... Say I am looking for a new projector the JVC 46 and Sony 50, and I don't have the benefit of a blacked out room. Would you still recommend the JVC based on better blacks, or would you say that I would not see the benefit of that extra black in my room? I only bring it up as I see people recommend the JVC based on black level alone, but yet the room it's going into is not optimal to get the benefit of those blacker blacks...

What it boils down to for me is, if the projector is going into a neutral room, lets say not blacked out and just your general medial room, I would step back from asking what projector provides the blackest blacks and move on to what projector bests fits my room.

I can't comment on how much of a difference the room affects the image. I have a light controlled room with low ceilings with a dark decor (the carpet is light beige though).

IMO the Sony is better in every other category with the exception of black levels. Had I know the difference in black level before I purchased the Sony I probably wouldn't have purchased it over a JVC because of how picky I am with black levels. Thankfully though I didn't know this going in as even though I miss the better black levels of the JVC everything else is better to my eyes. If you aren't ultra picky with black levels I'd get the Sony. Even if you are that picky I would still consider the JVC as I'm glad I made the switch. This is a great projector IMO and personally I'd take it over the JVC. If I did get another JVC now it would be more costly as I'd have to have the e-shift now (which I wouldn't have spent the money on before) which would make the HW50 an ever better deal over the JVC.

Before I blacked out my room recently, it was more difficult to see the differences between the JVC and other models. I agree with all your points above, the sum of the parts have to be looked at for the specific need of a room. The Sony can crank out over 1000 lumens in calibrated mode which is very good. 3D has an edge on the JVC's as well. Lamps are the cheapest of the current models, best gaming lag time, etc.

all that said, I'm still a big fan of what the JVC's do best.. they kill with my dark movies now that the room is a pit and all I see is the screen. I also prefer the e-shift 1 vs. the RC, but that's a different topic.