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Originally Posted by prohoc View Post

I agree that you could probably use a bigger screen. The HW50 is a bright projector. Mine is hung about 12 feet from a 106" diagonal screen. The screen is a Carada "Brilliant White" which is a 1.4 gain. On some 2D and at low bulb power it tis almost too bright. I would suggest first that you consider something between 100 and 113, or more if possible.

I am very pleased with the Carada product. I have used this screen with both a Sony vpl-vw50 (ie the Pearl) and now the new HW50es. It is a fixed frame with the black velvet frame cover. It is very reasonably priced for the quality. The slightly higher gain (a neutral gain is 1) helps on 3D content. .

Actually tests have show the BW to be 1.0 - 1.1. so it's almost a neutral gain....

http://accucalhd.com/documents/accucal_front_projection_screen_report.pdf
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Thanks for the info on the BW screen. Good to know. The literature on it when I purchased it claimed 1.4. I guess the HW50 is even brighter than I thought! I sit about 14 feet from the screen.
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Have any of you guys had your 50es professionally calibrated? Would you invest $375 in getting it done?
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Originally Posted by jslaw81 View Post

Have any of you guys had your 50es professionally calibrated? Would you invest $375 in getting it done?

I am on W Jeff Mier's schedule for a calibration in early April. I'll post the results after it's done.
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Thanks man. That's nice of you. Doesn't the screen you use make the results different? I have a 100" SI black diamond g3 1.4 gain fixed screen
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Originally Posted by prohoc View Post

Thanks for the info on the BW screen. Good to know. The literature on it when I purchased it claimed 1.4. I guess the HW50 is even brighter than I thought! I sit about 14 feet from the screen.

So what your saying is I can get the Carada BW 1.4 gain in the 150 inch or 160 inch (235:1) and set my projectcor back about 21 feet and still be okay for a 3d picture quality @ night or dark room without picture quality loss?
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Originally Posted by jslaw81 View Post

Thanks man. That's nice of you. Doesn't the screen you use make the results different? I have a 100" SI black diamond g3 1.4 gain fixed screen
I am sure the screen does affect the calibration. I have a Dalite HCCV 110". I think the gain is 1.1. It looks great as is.
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FYI - just installed my new HW50ES, activated 3D and as expected, I hear the buzz from the internal emitter. So I proceeded to contact Sony ES support (877-619-7669), gave them my serial number (1100579), and hoped to hear that a new 3D Sync transmitter (like the TM-RP-J1) would be sent out to resolve it. Unfortunately, my unit apparently has a serial number that falls outside the range of that resolution and 'should' have already had the hardware fix...which it clearly didn't. So the rep is checking in with higher authorities to see if the serial number list has been expanded. Otherwise, my unit is the first they have heard in this serial number range with the buzz issue.
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Is your projector ceiling mounted?
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Originally Posted by plasmaowner View Post

Is your projector ceiling mounted?
Not sure who that is directed at, but am curious for the question? Would it matter?
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I could be totally wrong but if I'm remembering right, I thought I read somewhere that the buzz from the internal emitter seems to be more of a problem when the projector is mounted upside down (on a ceiling)??? Mine is shelf mounted and I have no buzz.
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I have not had the problem, but I understand that it was sometimes affected by the glasses setting. People were experiencing it more when the glasses brightness setting on the projectior was at Max. Max with also give you the most "ghosting" so you might try 2 or 3. I prefer 3 for most movies.
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Check the chart in the manual. I think that screen sizes at or in excess of 120" are going to require a minimum throw distance of somewhere around 145" and larger. The bigger the screen, the longer the minimum throw.

I have had a professional calibration through AV Science. I am very pleased with the result. However, I will admit that the "Cinema 1 Mode", after using the Spears and Muncill test disk, was pretty close. The 50 has some really good pre-set modes. "Reference" looks good too, but more color shift than Cinema 1 to my eye. If you really want the absolute best out of your investment, I recommend the ISF calibration, for both 2D and 3D. The glasses induce a color shift that needs to be corrected separately.
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You know one thing I have just discovered is that the focus is very senistive. Its too easy to try to make up for with the rc. What I have found is putting the menu up in the middle of the screen and using some cheap bionalorcs focusing on the top letters makeing them notchey. There is a perfect spot very sharp. Not really any play right or left as it would seem with other images. The pix is so sharp with the BD 1.4 incredable.

Lots of talk about the jvc and black floor. I have not seen the jvc but this sony rivales the zone lit xbr 929 i have. I was worried about the black floor but I am very sasitifed. I will say the screen inovations BD makes a world of difference here too. Color is also much more natural compared to a white screen. I could not watch a white screen for long Yes its good but it just has a dullness to it after a while . Hard to explaine. Further my room is light peach white celings and light brown carpet and white screen just was not worth watching. On really really dark stuff was not to bad but on brighter stuff was just terriabl loss of contrast. The BD really does the job here. Projector hight, screen hight, and seating hight, has a lot to do with how the screen performs, It is angular reflective. So take that into account. I got that adjusted to the screen and projector hight set according to seat hight and distance. Exclent.
I am very pickey about the black floor and level and I am very sastifed with the 50 BD combo. In fact its the only set up I have found that I could be happy with after years of trying to find a set up. Even tried the dyna clear back in the day if u can rember that. lol it was pretty good just not big enough and curles down the sides.

When i first got the BD I was obsessed with looking for sparklies but I adjusted the hight set up and hardley ever see them maybe on a blinding white comerical. Its just not a factor with the correct set up. Some have suggesetd that there just every where. I do not see that . i see a spot about the size of a softball . Thats it. That spot location will depend on how things are set up and where u sit. You can minamize it with moving the projector futher back even more. Or if u sit futher back. In fact I could just about compleaty do away with the spot compleatly, how ever I like it bright and punchey like a flat screen so the projector is as close to the screen as possible. about 12 ft.
Every thing else is just fantacic with this screen I am setting 12ft from a 115 zero edge. It just does every thing else so fantasic. Totaly worth the money.

One word of caution about taping a bd sample to a white screen. There seems to be a dramatic color shift. It is an optical illusion. I do not know why but i took 4 of the samples and made a little screen to projector on/ The shift was not there . I was very concerend about that. Happy to report I did not need to change any setting at all from the white screen . with the sample taped to the white screen It was just awful and I could not even tweek it out. So beware and dont let that shift throw u off cause it will not be there when watching the screen in normal use
Edited by KDH - 3/7/13 at 4:39pm
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focusing the HW50 can be a challenge. I use the title screen from the AVS HD disk:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

The large black fonts against the white background makes it easy to nail the focus.
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Originally Posted by plasmaowner View Post

Is your projector ceiling mounted?

Yes, mine is mounted upside down on the ceiling. I did not check to see if the buzz was there when sitting rightside up.

A quick update, I took a fellow owner's advice (thanks blipszyc!) and decided to simply send an email to Sony ES support (installsupport@am.sony.com) explaining the situation. I said even though my particular serial number may fall out of the current range of affected units, the problem is still there. Within 2 hours, I had an email response saying "I’ll request a label and get a transmitter shipped out to you ASAP"! Now why couldn't it have been that easy with the rep on the phone the other night...ugh! smile.gif
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I have my projector upside down with glasses set to high and have zero buzzing noise from mine while watching 3d. I also have a black diamond zero edge 100 inch and wish now would have gone bigger. My room really wouldnt hold larger than 100 but bigger is better right?? Would have like a 106-110.
No issues with screen and very bright working great
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My buzzing is definitely gone now that I have an emitter. And, since I'm mostly using the RF glasses instead of the IR ones, it's allowed me to direct the IR to the back of my room and not interfere with my IR receiver which is in the front of the room. Not sure if I'll ever use the Sony IR glasses, so if anyone wants them, make me a reasonable offer.
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Let me know what you want for them I will buy from yoj
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Hi, I have been a long time lurker and finally ordered the Sony from Mike. Can someone advise the screw size for the three screws needed for the mounting plate? I couldn’t find any information in the owner’s manual. Thanks in advance. I apologize if this question has been asked before.
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I just found the answer to my question regarding mounting screws in early posts. Please disregard. Thanks.
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What is the right answer?
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I think they're M5.
post #1494 of 3345
Yes. It is M5 according to the early posts.
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Not sure what to do...I have had my new Sony 50 for about 2 weeks now. I am seeing some jittery motion when watching Regular Dish network and also while watching apple Tv. Its not any type of ghosting, but more a jittery type motion. I have attempted every type of setting I know and still seeing. I have tried Motion enhancement on High, low and off and seems to make little difference. I am begging to wonder if I have a defective projector.

Not sure what to do since not purchased locally for an evaluation by an expert. Purchased from projector people online.

Thanks for any advice and is what I am seeing normal.
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Has anyone noticed the Sony heats up a sealed room if on for a couple of hours? The 5010 did as well but the Sony seems to heat up the room more.
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Originally Posted by ttexxan1 View Post

Not sure what to do...I have had my new Sony 50 for about 2 weeks now. I am seeing some jittery motion when watching Regular Dish network and also while watching apple Tv. Its not any type of ghosting, but more a jittery type motion. I have attempted every type of setting I know and still seeing. I have tried Motion enhancement on High, low and off and seems to make little difference. I am begging to wonder if I have a defective projector.

Not sure what to do since not purchased locally for an evaluation by an expert. Purchased from projector people online.

Thanks for any advice and is what I am seeing normal.

I have seen this from time to time, but only on Dish Network. I think it's just Dish Networks service.

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Originally Posted by davidibecker View Post

Has anyone noticed the Sony heats up a sealed room if on for a couple of hours? The 5010 did as well but the Sony seems to heat up the room more.

I don't notice that at all, but I have a pretty big room, I'm sure that makes a difference.
post #1499 of 3345
I've had similar issues with my Bell Sat box (same as dish) and you can fix the jittery motion by go into expert settings and turning off film mode or switching between auto 1 and auto 2. For me turning off film mode got rid off the jitter from most of the channels. I think it's doing some incorrect 3:2 pulldown on interlaced sources.

hope this works for you.
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For those who have the HW50ES and are programing a universal remote  - attached are the dedicated HEX Codes (note this is for this mdl as well as others) directly from Sony.    Hope this helps.

I have not yet tested them with on my NEVO remote, but as they are from Sony Im sure they will work

 

 

 

hw50 IR Hex Codes.docx 16k .docx file
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