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post #1591 of 3345
Hello All
Can anyone give me advice on what size screen to use and what gain to get for use with this projector?
I will be sitting in a 16x16 room with the projector ceiling mounted at 14-15 feet. Room is pretty dark (no windows)but my wife wont let me paint the walls or ceiling dark so I have to live with yellow walls and white ceiling.
Viewing distance will be 15 feet ...I would ike the largest screen I can buy without "overdoing" it...
Also, a question or two regarding the projector: Can anyone tell me what settings to turn on/off for the first 100 hours until it gets calibrated?
Do I have to run the lamp on High for the first 100 hours?
Is there such a thing as Image Retention or burn-in like plasmas are susceptible of?

Thanks in advance!
Dan
post #1592 of 3345
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Can anyone give me advice on what size screen to use and what gain to get for use with this
projector?

You might try projecting onto a white sheet to start with, and try and decide on a size that you like. Then try the screen section for recomendations - a lot depends on the size of the screen your settle on and whether your viewing room is pitch black with black walls and floor or shiny white with lights on !
post #1593 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post


You might try projecting onto a white sheet to start with, and try and decide on a size that you like. Then try the screen section for recomendations - a lot depends on the size of the screen your settle on and whether your viewing room is pitch black with black walls and floor or shiny white with lights on !

I am at 14'.5" with my projector on a 106' and it works great, due to through distance it could be bigger, but for me the size is right for viewing.   I sit at 15' (projector is above my head).

post #1594 of 3345
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Originally Posted by dannoooo View Post

Hello All
Can anyone give me advice on what size screen to use and what gain to get for use with this projector?
I will be sitting in a 16x16 room with the projector ceiling mounted at 14-15 feet. Room is pretty dark (no windows)but my wife wont let me paint the walls or ceiling dark so I have to live with yellow walls and white ceiling.
Viewing distance will be 15 feet ...I would ike the largest screen I can buy without "overdoing" it...
Also, a question or two regarding the projector: Can anyone tell me what settings to turn on/off for the first 100 hours until it gets calibrated?
Do I have to run the lamp on High for the first 100 hours?
Is there such a thing as Image Retention or burn-in like plasmas are susceptible of?

Thanks in advance!
Dan

Try this:

http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/
post #1595 of 3345
@randman, my room is similarly sized to yours. I went with a 126" diagonal 16:9 screen. That's 110" in width. I was a little worried at first but if I went scope then I would've gone as big as the throw ratio would allow. I wanted to keep the screen at least 2' off the floor. I sit around 13.5'.
post #1596 of 3345
Thank jkasanic
126 at 13.5 ft and that's not too big ?
Anyway does a projector need a proper breaking in?
Also can it get IR or burn- in from static images like a plasma?
post #1597 of 3345
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Originally Posted by dannoooo View Post

Thank jkasanic
126 at 13.5 ft and that's not too big ?
Anyway does a projector need a proper breaking in?
Also can it get IR or burn- in from static images like a plasma?

I am sitting about 10' from a 119" screen so IMO that's not too big. Never heard of anyone getting IR or burn in. Are you going to be playing games for hours?
post #1598 of 3345
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Originally Posted by dannoooo View Post

Thank jkasanic
126 at 13.5 ft and that's not too big ?
Anyway does a projector need a proper breaking in?
Also can it get IR or burn- in from static images like a plasma?

No ir on a projector, and the lamps will settle but you done have to break them in like you would a plasma.
post #1599 of 3345
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Originally Posted by xb1032 View Post

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Originally Posted by dannoooo View Post

Thank jkasanic
126 at 13.5 ft and that's not too big ?
Anyway does a projector need a proper breaking in?
Also can it get IR or burn- in from static images like a plasma?

I am sitting about 10' from a 119" screen so IMO that's not too big. Never heard of anyone getting IR or burn in. Are you going to be playing games for hours?

Like I said, I was nervous at first but it doesn't take long to get used to it. Personally, I would go as big as your room allows keeping in mind the min height off the floor and throw ratio.
post #1600 of 3345
How does this rate with jvc x35 in contrast and 2d
Edited by michaeldip - 3/30/13 at 1:48am
post #1601 of 3345
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Originally Posted by michaeldip View Post

How does this rate with jvc x35 in contrast and 2d

Those not picky might say they are very close but those that are can tell you the JVC definitely has the edge. The JVC also had the sharper picture when Reality Creation isn't used on the Sony. The JVC lens memory and has more flexibility with for projector placement and is IP controllable. I'd give the Sony the advantage on about everything else.
post #1602 of 3345
I read through the entire thread and saw that Zombie was going to do a input lag test but I never saw any results. Does anyone know the input lag on these units.? I am coming from a vpl-vw60 and want something similer. I play COD and other games and don't want much lag.
post #1603 of 3345
Sure, off the top of my head:

Sony hw50 was around 35ms I believe.
JVC's 70 to 95ms (depends on which JVC)
Epson's 65 to 80ms (though depends on which year and model, the Epson 8350 has way lower than the Epson 50xx/60xx series)
Benq w7000 (50ms or thereabouts)
Benq w1070 (35ms or close)
Panny 30ms to 40ms or so

For more results, look them up in here.
post #1604 of 3345
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Sure, off the top of my head:

Sony hw50 was around 35ms I believe.
JVC's 70 to 95ms (depends on which JVC)
Epson's 65 to 80ms (though depends on which year and model, the Epson 8350 has way lower than the Epson 50xx/60xx series)
Benq w7000 (50ms or thereabouts)
Benq w1070 (35ms or close)
Panny 30ms to 40ms or so

For more results, look them up in here.


The link is broken
post #1605 of 3345
My family usually just uses the 50ES to watch a movie during weekend so the projector is on for no more than 3 hours during any single use. In the last two movies we watched, I notice a small single popping noise (like plastic expansion and contraction type noise) toward the end of the movie. It is just a single popping noise; it does not occur repeatedly. I only noticed the noise once or twice during the entire movie so it shouldn't be related to the DI kicking in. I am thinking this is related to the expansion/contraction of the plastic components within the unit. Has anyone experienced anything similar?
post #1606 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Devildriverx77 View Post

I read through the entire thread and saw that Zombie was going to do a input lag test but I never saw any results. Does anyone know the input lag on these units.? I am coming from a vpl-vw60 and want something similer. I play COD and other games and don't want much lag.

30ms on the HW50.
post #1607 of 3345
Still not sure if having issues with my new Sony 50...I have been noticing some motion type issues. I am not sure how to describe it but when watching I will notice some motion artifact or not being smooth through out. My brother came over today who has never seen my new system and it was the first thing he commented on. He even ask if I had a motion thing engage due to not looking right.

I have noticed this type of motion choppiness when watching regular TV, but also noticing when watching some blue rays.

From advice given on the forum

I have the settings set to film off but not sure what else to do. We were watching Transformers dark side of the moon..I am watching it on a Screen inovations 1.4 gain 100inch. Sitting back about 13-14 feet. Not sure what else to do. Any others having this type of issue??
post #1608 of 3345
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Originally Posted by ttexxan1 View Post

Still not sure if having issues with my new Sony 50...I have been noticing some motion type issues. I am not sure how to describe it but when watching I will notice some motion artifact or not being smooth through out. My brother came over today who has never seen my new system and it was the first thing he commented on. He even ask if I had a motion thing engage due to not looking right.

I have noticed this type of motion choppiness when watching regular TV, but also noticing when watching some blue rays.

From advice given on the forum

I have the settings set to film off but not sure what else to do. We were watching Transformers dark side of the moon..I am watching it on a Screen inovations 1.4 gain 100inch. Sitting back about 13-14 feet. Not sure what else to do. Any others having this type of issue??

Auto 1 ME high smooth as silk.
post #1609 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Van8888 View Post

My family usually just uses the 50ES to watch a movie during weekend so the projector is on for no more than 3 hours during any single use. In the last two movies we watched, I notice a small single popping noise (like plastic expansion and contraction type noise) toward the end of the movie. It is just a single popping noise; it does not occur repeatedly. I only noticed the noise once or twice during the entire movie so it shouldn't be related to the DI kicking in. I am thinking this is related to the expansion/contraction of the plastic components within the unit. Has anyone experienced anything similar?

I've noticed the same issue. At first I thought it was the dynamic iris so as a test I waited to hear the sound and then replayed the scene, I could never reproduce the sound. I tried this every time I heard the sound and it would never repeat itself at the same spot so I don't think its the DI.

Does anyone know what this sound is? I would describe it as a quick plastic sounding pop, almost like a plastic door is being opened/closed quickly.
post #1610 of 3345
You could turn the DI off and then see if it still makes the noise. That would fully exonerate the DI from your investigation. It's most likely something plastic expanding and contracting because of heat inside the projector.
post #1611 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Brox View Post

I've noticed the same issue. At first I thought it was the dynamic iris so as a test I waited to hear the sound and then replayed the scene, I could never reproduce the sound. I tried this every time I heard the sound and it would never repeat itself at the same spot so I don't think its the DI.

Does anyone know what this sound is? I would describe it as a quick plastic sounding pop, almost like a plastic door is being opened/closed quickly.

I've got these clicks too after several hours of use, getting the heater on or opening the windows and cold air flows in after shutting down. I guess this is normal.
post #1612 of 3345
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Originally Posted by michaeldip View Post

How does this rate with jvc x35 in contrast and 2d

They are really close, but your room, and set up (dynamic iris, etc) is really important.

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/sony-vpl-hw50es/4505-7858_7-35616136.html
http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/hw50es/performance.php
post #1613 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Van8888 View Post

My family usually just uses the 50ES to watch a movie during weekend so the projector is on for no more than 3 hours during any single use. In the last two movies we watched, I notice a small single popping noise (like plastic expansion and contraction type noise) toward the end of the movie. It is just a single popping noise; it does not occur repeatedly. I only noticed the noise once or twice during the entire movie so it shouldn't be related to the DI kicking in. I am thinking this is related to the expansion/contraction of the plastic components within the unit. Has anyone experienced anything similar?

Funny I've noticed this exact same thing - I didn't think anything of it at the time, but I know the exact sound you are talking about. Sounds like a plastic "click" or my first reaction was that my mount was not locked in place properly and the unit was shifting...but would be interested if you figure out what is causing it.
post #1614 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Van8888 View Post

My family usually just uses the 50ES to watch a movie during weekend so the projector is on for no more than 3 hours during any single use. In the last two movies we watched, I notice a small single popping noise (like plastic expansion and contraction type noise) toward the end of the movie. It is just a single popping noise; it does not occur repeatedly. I only noticed the noise once or twice during the entire movie so it shouldn't be related to the DI kicking in. I am thinking this is related to the expansion/contraction of the plastic components within the unit. Has anyone experienced anything similar?

I have the same issue, I've noticed it at least a handful of times.
post #1615 of 3345
Thanks for those of you sharing your experience with the "popping" noise. It is good that I have not noticed anything negative associated with the noise, at least for the time being, but bad that others have similar experience. I am almost certain this is unrelated to the DI since I only heard it once or twice during the movie. The last movie I watched was a pretty dark movie so I highly doubt that the DI would only kick in once or twice. We have to keep an eye on this and compare notes.
post #1616 of 3345
I have had mine since Friday and noticed the popping sound tonight. I was about an hour into using the projector. I had the DI disabled so it definitely isn't related.

I had the iris closed as much as possible to lower the brightness while we watch movies off the computer. Even with the iris locked down it is as bright as the VW85 on high and comparable to my old Epson while retaining proper colors. :thumbup:
post #1617 of 3345
Just so blown away by the vpl-hw50es with a ps3 screen invations 1.4 BD watching Animals United on netflix in 3D. I just had to post.
RC set at 50 and sharp set at 40. Not a hint of any ringing or any thing but just the sharpest picture I think I have ever seen on a display.
OUTSTANDING.
Pure eye candy. Normaly I can not go any where near those settings. Normal tops is 30 sharp and 30 RC. and thats pushing it for sure.
But for some reason this movie is just above and over the top.
Just had to post..

Had the cable guys over to do some work on the internet and it stopped them dead in there tracks............
The question they all had was Man where did you get a flat pannel tv that big. LOL
Exactly what I was going for when I bought this set up.

Just had to let you all know very happy with this set up.

510 hrs on the sony be sure to get the focus just right. Its a new skill to get it right with this projector but well worth it. Work with it untill you can see the pixel structure. Hard to do I know.
Edited by KDH - 4/2/13 at 9:47pm
post #1618 of 3345
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Originally Posted by smbsocal View Post

I have had mine since Friday and noticed the popping sound tonight. I was about an hour into using the projector. I had the DI disabled so it definitely isn't related.

I had the iris closed as much as possible to lower the brightness while we watch movies off the computer. Even with the iris locked down it is as bright as the VW85 on high and comparable to my old Epson while retaining proper colors. :thumbup:
I am sure that popping sound is the same as my PS3, it is plastic that makes sound because of heat, at least I think it is and both my PS3 is doing the same..........
post #1619 of 3345
Hello all you lucky HW50 Owners . I'm looking to upgrade to this PJ fairly soon but I have a concern I haven't found answered in this
Thread yet . I would like to do the "Zoom" method for 2.35:1 but I'm worried how black the black bars will be when they're zoomed off
the main screen . I have black cloth walls behind my screen which also has a black border .

Would someone be willing to throw a 2.35:1 movie up in a 16:9 frame and then hold your hand in the light path for the black bars ?
Does your hand shadow appear darker than the black bars or can you not see the shadow of your hand ? (This would be good)
I'll assume you've all set up the Black and White levels already or even Calibrated the picture .

Also , while I'm here , is anyone using the Sony ImageDirector Software ?

Thanks in advance ,

Scott.................smile.gif
post #1620 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Scott_R_K View Post

Hello all you lucky HW50 Owners . I'm looking to upgrade to this PJ fairly soon but I have a concern I haven't found answered in this
Thread yet . I would like to do the "Zoom" method for 2.35:1 but I'm worried how black the black bars will be when they're zoomed off
the main screen . I have black cloth walls behind my screen which also has a black border .

Would someone be willing to throw a 2.35:1 movie up in a 16:9 frame and then hold your hand in the light path for the black bars ?
Does your hand shadow appear darker than the black bars or can you not see the shadow of your hand ? (This would be good)
I'll assume you've all set up the Black and White levels already or even Calibrated the picture .

Also , while I'm here , is anyone using the Sony ImageDirector Software ?

Thanks in advance ,

Scott.................smile.gif
I'm doing this right now and have black velvet outside of my screen. With the lights off, can't even tell there are bars. Will try to grab some pics next time I fire it up.
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