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post #211 of 3345
Mine too....15 years now. ( Not a Lumis though...close...)
post #212 of 3345
I have pre-ordered HW50 from AVS
Does someone know when will AVS release HW50.
I am really in a hurry to get it.
Thanks
post #213 of 3345
Should be shipping next week hopefully
post #214 of 3345
Really? That is great.
Do you know the exactly shipping date?
post #215 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

I'm all for black velvet curtains behind the screen on the front wall, and dark(er) decor and paint ( flat paint ). But if i painted the entire theater flat black from ceiling to floor, I might experience not only a better picture, I'd experience a 3rd divorce.........eek.gifcool.gif

LOL. For city condo living, one may think that projectors are out of the question. Not so easy to have a dedicated room or to make a room dark just for the projector, especially if you move around. In this case, the HP screen appears to be a real lifesaver.

I'm still stuck trying to decide between the HP or the HCHP (wondering if they've completely worked out the blotchiness issues with the HCHP)... watch the Sony projector arrive before my screen does at this rate.
post #216 of 3345
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

There is no window effect with 3D, the glasses eliminate any possibility of that.

Mark
Im talking about windows effect in 2D smile.gif

dj
post #217 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

Things really have gotten much better and less expensive over the years projector wise. For any of you getting an HW50 as your first projector, you're in for a treat!

Ooh you are making me go weak at the knees tongue.gif

I'm on the preorder list and am soooo excited. But am just hanging out to see projectorreviews review of the Panasonic AE8000 which is due out be the 23rd. I started with the goal of getting the Panny as my 5+ year upgrade but hadn't heard about the Sony until hitting the AVS forums. She sure is one sweet treat ;-p
post #218 of 3345
I am even excited for you guys, the Sony looks really good for 3D this year with the extra lumens.
Edited by coderguy - 10/18/12 at 4:00am
post #219 of 3345
Thread Starter 
Thanks to the MonsterVision glasses I was able to reduce to a very minimum the HW50 ghosting...

Here the Left Right pattern with the original Sony glasses :
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Here the Left Right pattern with the MonsterVision :
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post #220 of 3345
Thanks for posting RickAVManiac.

I will be looking to buy some of these as the 2 pairs which come in the box won't be enough - the Sony's will do for guests!

In terms of colour/tint/brightness - is the monsters better in this regard too or do the Sony's perform best?
post #221 of 3345
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Originally Posted by soupdragon View Post

Thanks for posting RickAVManiac.

I will be looking to buy some of these as the 2 pairs which come in the box won't be enough - the Sony's will do for guests!

In terms of colour/tint/brightness - is the monsters better in this regard too or do the Sony's perform best?

The Monster perform best. Lightweight, almost no tint, good brightness and minimal ghosting smile.gif
post #222 of 3345
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Marriage is over-rated! smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7tF8W1B2E&feature=related

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post #223 of 3345
I plan to Review one soon. Can't wait. smile.gif
post #224 of 3345
I am on the list officially!!

I just talked to Laurie at AVS and it would seem that a next week arrival is not out of the question. If anyone receives any tracking or shipping info from AVS please let us know.
post #225 of 3345
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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

The Monster perform best. Lightweight, almost no tint, good brightness and minimal ghosting smile.gif

I know I read you had a special cable made for ouput to the MonsterVision RF Emitter but said it had only limited improvment ? I can't seem to find that post. I am looking for the specifications to see if I could handle making one. If I do go with this projector as I indicated before it will be behind a wall and the location of the built in emitter will not have an opening in front. (Thanks for that info). I assume I could get it to work with the provided IR to RF piece from MonsterVision but I want to investigate.

Thanks

Brian
post #226 of 3345
So the HW50 is using the same lamp as the 30 and 95. So basically they redesigned the internal optical block to maximize the lumens available from the bulb and/or they are running the Lamp at a higher power to get more lumens. As others said I don't think the lens is any different than the 30. So in the end this a step up from the 30 but I think the real upgrade the user is getting is the RC feature.

I am not a fan of these detail enhancement algorithms. They remind me of the A/B tests of speakers/headphones where the listener usually rates the louder sounding unit as better. Its the same thing with images, the higher contrasted image is usually preferred. It seems thats what most of these new detail enhancement algorithms are doing... boosting contrast in areas of the image to make detail stand out more.

If you like the feature use it, I am not a fan of them.
post #227 of 3345
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Originally Posted by fingersdlp View Post

I know I read you had a special cable made for ouput to the MonsterVision RF Emitter but said it had only limited improvment ? I can't seem to find that post. I am looking for the specifications to see if I could handle making one. If I do go with this projector as I indicated before it will be behind a wall and the location of the built in emitter will not have an opening in front. (Thanks for that info). I assume I could get it to work with the provided IR to RF piece from MonsterVision but I want to investigate.

Thanks
Brian

The Sony's work fine with the IR receiver for the MV3D glasses. Some folks were making custom cables to directly plug the MV receiver into the Sony and bypassing the original IR blaster.

I've tested both on the HW30, there was no difference between the wired connector and the IR -> IR setup.
post #228 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Toknowshita View Post

So the HW50 is using the same lamp as the 30 and 95.

Do we know that for certain? it could be a typo though..

Sony lists the VW50 lamp: LMP-H20 Lamp

http://store.sony.com/p/ES,-Projector,-3D,-1080p,-Hi-Def,-Full-HD/en/p/VPLHW50ES#specifications

The HW30/VW95 used: LMP-H202

I know what the HW30 lamp looks like, I'll compare it to the HW50 lamp when it arrives.
post #229 of 3345
The HW50 manual calls for the sam LMP-202 , and I believe the Cine4Home confirmed this in his review.

Pg. 80 from the HW50 manual below:

Optional accessories:

Projector Lamp LMP-H202 (for replacement)

So either the site or the manual has a typo..signs point to the site.
Edited by tehotaone - 10/18/12 at 8:59am
post #230 of 3345
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Originally Posted by tehotaone View Post

The HW50 manual calls for the same LMP-202 , and I believe the Cine4Home confirmed this in his review.

thanks for the info.
post #231 of 3345
Has anyone tried a cost-effective IR repeater system for the glasses, my installation will be in an enclosed soffit and I am looking for solutions as well ?
post #232 of 3345
Hey guys,

Been a wile since i have been around. I have a quick question for those that have been around here for a bit. I have a Sharp xv12000 that I used to use in a dedicated theater room. I moved from that house and did bring along the projector. I know bring out the projector a couple of times a month and now have the itch to upgrade. I am wondering now how much the picture quality has improved since then. I now have three kids, all under 9 and would love to get 3d. I personly dont care for the 3d myself but dont want to be selfish. Since i now now use the projector in a a family room with some ambient light I was considering the sony hw50 or the new jvc x35. Just not sure if the pq has improved for me justifyng the cost of these projectors.
post #233 of 3345
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Originally Posted by tehotaone View Post

The HW50 manual calls for the sam LMP-202 , and I believe the Cine4Home confirmed this in his review.
Pg. 80 from the HW50 manual below:
Optional accessories:
Projector Lamp LMP-H202 (for replacement)
So either the site or the manual has a typo..signs point to the site.

That's where I got my info as well. I would say for as similar as the HW30 and HW50 are in appearance that it is highly likely they are using the same bulb and lamp cage. Again I wouldn't be surprised if the newer HW50 is running the lamp at a higher wattage to acheive the higher lumen number. I really find it hard to believe that the optical blocks design could drastically change the available lumens from a 1000 for the 95 to 1700 for the HW50 with the 30 falling in the middle if using the bulb at the same wattage.
Edited by Toknowshita - 10/18/12 at 9:38am
post #234 of 3345
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Originally Posted by tehotaone View Post

Has anyone tried a cost-effective IR repeater system for the glasses, my installation will be in an enclosed soffit and I am looking for solutions as well ?

Another option would be to get the optional IR emitter and place the emitter where it is most needed. Since an IR repeater system doesn't allow you tweak to adjust for timing differences like the Monster/Optoma IR->RF solution, I would be hestitant to use an IR repeater to acheive sync on the glasses. It would work but it still might not work as well as it should.

With my HW30, I snaked a Cat5 cable through the joist space in the ceiling and glued the IR emitter to the top of my electric screen.

Another thing to be aware of and its the one reason I hate the manufacturers using IR and then building the emitter into the projector itself is that if you use another IR repeater system (which I do) the IR 3D signal can interfere with that system depending where you placed the IR receiver. I really wish they would switch to RF/BT. At least when you have ability to place the emitter where you need it you can avoid those situations.
Edited by Toknowshita - 10/18/12 at 9:45am
post #235 of 3345
Does anyone have the pinout of the RJ45 for the IR Emitter (projector side? )

And why does it say 5 Year ES warranty at the Sony Store? Is it 3 or 5 ?
Edited by tehotaone - 10/18/12 at 9:59am
post #236 of 3345
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Originally Posted by tehotaone View Post

Does anyone have the pinout of the RJ45 for the IR Emitter (projector side? )

I think someone had a pinout/schematic on the HW30 or VW95 owners thread.


As far as 5y v 3y, I don't know. Sony ES Audio products traditionally had a 5y warranty. The ES video projectors have traditionally had a 3y warranty. They could have changed it, but I have my doubts any manufacture is going to offer warranty coverage on projector for 5y. That would be another major advantage going the Sony route if they upped it to 5y.
Edited by Toknowshita - 10/18/12 at 10:07am
post #237 of 3345
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Originally Posted by fingersdlp View Post

I know I read you had a special cable made for ouput to the MonsterVision RF Emitter but said it had only limited improvment ? I can't seem to find that post. I am looking for the specifications to see if I could handle making one. If I do go with this projector as I indicated before it will be behind a wall and the location of the built in emitter will not have an opening in front. (Thanks for that info). I assume I could get it to work with the provided IR to RF piece from MonsterVision but I want to investigate.

Thanks
Brian

The Sony's work fine with the IR receiver for the MV3D glasses. Some folks were making custom cables to directly plug the MV receiver into the Sony and bypassing the original IR blaster.

I've tested both on the HW30, there was no difference between the wired connector and the IR -> IR setup.

Exact.

And if you use the cable, the Sony glasses wont work.
post #238 of 3345
So they are just using the ES symbol on the advertisement that says 5 year Warranty. Little false advertising there.
post #239 of 3345
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Originally Posted by tehotaone View Post

So they are just using the ES symbol on the advertisement that says 5 year Warranty. Little false advertising there.

Most likely. Whoever signed off on the webpage messed up.
post #240 of 3345
Rick, what about xpand104 glasses? Do they work good with the sony 50? In europe they are less expensive then monstervision, and easier to find.
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