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post #2131 of 3345
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Originally Posted by mbuck View Post

Though I still can't find out how to do ECO mode, we just watched OZ and I literally smiled I was so happy with the picture that Sony put out. Gorgeous!

It's not called eco mode on this projector... the setting is under cinema black pro, lamp control. (picture settings)
post #2132 of 3345
Interesting, I'll check that out.

Played CoD tonight, looks great but 3D kept going in and out (SONY glasses).

With 3D do you have to be sitting in front of the projector? When it was overhead it did not seem to like it. Front row seemed to work just fine.
post #2133 of 3345
Brothers I am stuck about 3 settings

1- Really Creation > Noise Reduction
2- Expert Menu> NR
3-Expert Menu> MPG NR

I usually watch bluray content and 8-15gb 1080p movies via DUNE 303D player and Pioneer BDP140
post #2134 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

Brothers I am stuck about 3 settings

1- Really Creation > Noise Reduction
2- Expert Menu> NR
3-Expert Menu> MPG NR

I usually watch bluray content and 8-15gb 1080p movies via DUNE 303D player and Pioneer BDP140

I bought the Dune Base 3D, and to my surprise the picture quality is far inferior to the cheapest Sony Blu-Ray player...

So, don't waste your money on Dune... any blu-ray players can play downloaded content via usb or network cables now... and I think the reason the Sony plays better picture is because they automatically upconvert any content to 2K, and also, i think they also run through their filters to make the pq better.. i have compared many programs, and the difference is night and day....
post #2135 of 3345
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

I bought the Dune Base 3D, and to my surprise the picture quality is far inferior to the cheapest Sony Blu-Ray player...

So, don't waste your money on Dune... any blu-ray players can play downloaded content via usb or network cables now... and I think the reason the Sony plays better picture is because they automatically upconvert any content to 2K, and also, i think they also run through their filters to make the pq better.. i have compared many programs, and the difference is night and day....

Hımm I dont think so. Media players are different from bluray players. I dont think sony bluray players will be like Dune/Popcorn etc. Sony doesnt love mkv content. Many people buy media players.
post #2136 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

Hımm I dont think so. Media players are different from bluray players. I dont think sony bluray players will be like Dune/Popcorn etc. Sony doesnt love mkv content. Many people buy media players.

I can play MKV fine on my sony...

And I have compared them with dozens of sources.. all the way from very good quality MKV (above 30G) to very low quality ones like below 1G, and the Sony comes up on top... and I mean, huge difference...

The only thing my Sony doesn't play is .iso, or 'folders'... most av files can be played on either...
post #2137 of 3345
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

I can play MKV fine on my sony...

And I have compared them with dozens of sources.. all the way from very good quality MKV (above 30G) to very low quality ones like below 1G, and the Sony comes up on top... and I mean, huge difference...

The only thing my Sony doesn't play is .iso, or 'folders'... most av files can be played on either...

whats urs sony model
post #2138 of 3345
I have a 500 series sony blu ray player i think its a 580 and it plays everything I throw at it. The only thing it does not do is use the Srt sub title files. Some of the older models like two or three years old can not play files over 4gb but any of the new models play any size.
post #2139 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

I have a 500 series sony blu ray player i think its a 580 and it plays everything I throw at it. The only thing it does not do is use the Srt sub title files. Some of the older models like two or three years old can not play files over 4gb but any of the new models play any size.

nice but i need turkish subtitles tongue.gif
post #2140 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

whats urs sony model

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-Blu-ray-Player-Wi-Fi/dp/B006U1YUZE

It's less than $200, and can upscale any content to 2K...

I have compared it with the Dune 3d Base, and it's not even a close fight... the Sony's picture have a lot more pop, better color range / far more saturated,... the Dune appears dull compared to it..

I think it has to do with the Sony's processing.. and their 'knowledge base' in developing great players..

Both were played on my Sharp 60 Inch tv...
post #2141 of 3345
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-Blu-ray-Player-Wi-Fi/dp/B006U1YUZE

It's less than $200, and can upscale any content to 2K...

I have compared it with the Dune 3d Base, and it's not even a close fight... the Sony's picture have a lot more pop, better color range / far more saturated,... the Dune appears dull compared to it..

I think it has to do with the Sony's processing.. and their 'knowledge base' in developing great players..

Both were played on my Sharp 60 Inch tv...
I wonder how it and the Dune compare to a WDTV and PS3? I use the WDTV to playback MKVs and the PS3 for discs and both look great to me. I did a comparison a while back and didn't really notice a large difference. Perhaps the Dune is not as good as people claim.
post #2142 of 3345
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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-Blu-ray-Player-Wi-Fi/dp/B006U1YUZE

It's less than $200, and can upscale any content to 2K...

I have compared it with the Dune 3d Base, and it's not even a close fight... the Sony's picture have a lot more pop, better color range / far more saturated,... the Dune appears dull compared to it..

I think it has to do with the Sony's processing.. and their 'knowledge base' in developing great players..

Both were played on my Sharp 60 Inch tv...

maybe 720p content can be different but i think 1080p wont make a difference much
post #2143 of 3345
One of the best media players on the market right now is the mede8er.

http://www.mede8er.com/

There is nothing special about the Sony BD player vs. this device in terms of overall PQ.

One of the primary strengths of the mede8er is that it can play back 3D MVC MKV files which is a full frame packed copy of the original 3D movie with HD audio as well.
post #2144 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

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Originally Posted by coolgeek View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S590-Blu-ray-Player-Wi-Fi/dp/B006U1YUZE

It's less than $200, and can upscale any content to 2K...

I have compared it with the Dune 3d Base, and it's not even a close fight... the Sony's picture have a lot more pop, better color range / far more saturated,... the Dune appears dull compared to it..

I think it has to do with the Sony's processing.. and their 'knowledge base' in developing great players..

Both were played on my Sharp 60 Inch tv...

maybe 720p content can be different but i think 1080p wont make a difference much

 

FWIW, I have a 500 series Sony BluRay (maybe S570, or whatevert the one is just before they add wifi connection) and a few popcorn hours (A-110, C-200 and A-400) and my Sony struggles with high bitrate MKV's as well as 720p BluRay TV rips.  The biggest issue I notice though is that audio sync gets screwed up more often than not.  As far as picture quality goes, I don't see any appreciable difference but all devices have had some level of video calibration (e.g. DVD Essentials, Spears and Munsil etc.).

post #2145 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

maybe 720p content can be different but i think 1080p wont make a difference much

I have played content from 320 all the way to high quality 30 plus GB blu-ray rip... they are ALL far better on the Sony Blu-Ray..

Just compare it yourself...
post #2146 of 3345
Thank you friend I hope a day I will find a chance to test

Btw anyone can suggest something for these settings please?

1- Really Creation > Noise Reduction
2- Expert Menu> NR
3-Expert Menu> MPG NR
post #2147 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

Thank you friend I hope a day I will find a chance to test

Btw anyone can suggest something for these settings please?

1- Really Creation > Noise Reduction
2- Expert Menu> NR
3-Expert Menu> MPG NR

1- default : just turn rc on and off
2- off
3- off
post #2148 of 3345
Oke friend some people use NR and MPEG NR middle and low, so i wonder about it
post #2149 of 3345
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

Oke friend some people use NR and MPEG NR middle and low, so i wonder about it

Well you did ask smile.gif
post #2150 of 3345
Any thoughts on losing my 3D signal?

Played CoD last night, looks great but 3D kept going in and out (SONY glasses).

With 3D do you have to be sitting in front of the projector? When it was overhead it did not seem to like it. Front row seemed to work just fine.
post #2151 of 3345
The Sony is infrared so perhaps your signal isn't strong enough to bounce off screen? Front row probably gives you direct line of sight. Perhaps the external emitter would solve your problem?
post #2152 of 3345
It's not that big of a room, 19' total so I'm maybe 15-16' away. Could that still be the issue?

Can't believe I have to buy another part to make 3D work, ht shop made no mention of any problems.
post #2153 of 3345
The original Sony glasses are very finicky about keeping sync. I noticed if I turned my head one way or the other I would lose sync for a second or two. Try picking up a pair of the PS3 glasses ($20 @ your favorite retailer). Those seem to handle the signal better.
post #2154 of 3345
Anyone have an issue with the Sony (NEW) Simply shutting off.

Mine will just drop picture and then after green flashing light for a while start back up.

The receiver (sound) goes out at the same time but the sound comes back significantly before the picture.

I have had it happen when operating as little as 45 minutes and as long as an hour....source does not seem to matter.

The PJ is ceiling mounted with 18+ inches of clearance from the ceiling.

I have switched HDMI cables with no change.

It is connected to my Pioneer receiver (SC-63)
post #2155 of 3345
Weird. I have virtually the exact same setup (HW50 and SC-61) with no issues. It doesn't sound like there is any cooling obstruction, might be defective?
post #2156 of 3345
If it were just the projector shutting down I'd point a finger at a loose lamp or connection, but if both your receiver and PJ are shutting down, I'd look at your electrical panel. Are they both on the same circuit? Try moving the projector or receiver to a different plug.
post #2157 of 3345
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Originally Posted by Stauff View Post

Anyone have an issue with the Sony (NEW) Simply shutting off.

Mine will just drop picture and then after green flashing light for a while start back up.

The receiver (sound) goes out at the same time but the sound comes back significantly before the picture.

I have had it happen when operating as little as 45 minutes and as long as an hour....source does not seem to matter.

The PJ is ceiling mounted with 18+ inches of clearance from the ceiling.

I have switched HDMI cables with no change.

It is connected to my Pioneer receiver (SC-63)

 

So no obstructions on the air vents?  Does anyone know what happens when the unit experiences too high of an operating temp?  Is it like a receiver that has a fault protection circuit and shuts down?  I know if my HW50 loses the HDMI signal then I get a blank screen and if no input is detected then it will shutdown.  Are you saying your projector shuts down immediately?  The green flashing lights occur on a powerdown sequence as far as I recall and that's after 2 presses of the power button.

 

I agree with blipszyc though regarding your sound and if it could be related to both units losing power?  Does the receiver power down as well or do you just lose HDMI audio?  If the latter, perhaps the problem is with the HDMI switching in the receiver?  How long is your HDMI run to the projector and what type of HDMI cables are you using?

post #2158 of 3345
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Originally Posted by mbuck View Post

It's not that big of a room, 19' total so I'm maybe 15-16' away. Could that still be the issue?

Can't believe I have to buy another part to make 3D work, ht shop made no mention of any problems.
I had to get the external emitter for my glasses to sync up as well. The only way mine would sync up is if I turned around and looked directly at the projector. Mine is also ceiling mounted about 17ft. from screen
post #2159 of 3345
I'm using a Aurum 35 ft High speed HDMI, the other was a mediacom...

If i had to guess it is a problem with one component or the other...the challenge with HDMI is figuring which.

I cannot see the reciever since it is in another room.

I have ARC and HDMI (Control?) enabled maybe if i turn that off i can determine which component id effecting it.

I did initially think it was a power supply issue since my first observation was during a storm but there have been, ithink, at least one ocurrence every time i use the theater.

Any other thoughts?
post #2160 of 3345
Was told by online support that I need to update my projector (to fix 3D transmission problem). Of course he didn't know how to do this, but when I went to the website it looks like it has to be done through a computer.

And only PC?

Is there any workaround for this? I only have Mac products.
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