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Most noticeable in 3d at least. All cables are new 1.4 cables
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Fyi for those that recently bought the 50 or were waiting for the 55, it looks like the differences are rf 3d and wireless hdmi and not much else. Makes me happy I didn't wait, though I may have saved a bit of money.

So Mike was right, unsurprisingly smile.gif
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Is there an official release from Sony with the Hw55 specs?

 

EDIT:  I found this thread with the detail


Edited by jkasanic - 9/4/13 at 10:59am
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glad I didn't wait!
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Even though I got my 50 like 6 months ago I must say I was relieved to see the 55 was a minor refresh and not a major upgrade. Integrated RF 3d would be nice but certainly not that important.
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Originally Posted by Oven View Post

I've got my Sony projector mounted with a Cheif Model # RPA 020 Inverted Ceiling Mount. And my image sags on the bottom right about 2" (on a 110" screen). It's perfectly level at the top and left and right sides.

In the essence of saving my sanity, does anyone know which bolt on the 9 or so adjustments on my ceiling mount that I would need to move to get this screen squared up? I've made a drawing of what my screen looks like, showing a red line indicating where the bottom should line up.


While you may think everything is "level" on both sides, the tools we most often buy at hardware stores aren't "perfect". Looking at your picture you need to raise the left side of the projector (as you face the lens) just a little bit. Once you have equal distance on from the horizontal midpoint on top and bottom, then rotate ever so slightly clockwise as looking from floor to ceiling. More than likely then you will have to lens shift a bit to the right again.
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Originally Posted by Trepidati0n View Post

While you may think everything is "level" on both sides, the tools we most often buy at hardware stores aren't "perfect". Looking at your picture you need to raise the left side of the projector (as you face the lens) just a little bit. Once you have equal distance on from the horizontal midpoint on top and bottom, then rotate ever so slightly clockwise as looking from floor to ceiling. More than likely then you will have to lens shift a bit to the right again.

Thanks, this is exactly what I needed!
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Originally Posted by booga24 View Post

So I have been enjoying my HW50 for a few weeks now but I'm having issue/s lately (last night and Friday). While watching a movie the picture will cut off for a couple of seconds and then back on, anybody experience this? Source is a Samsung blu ray player connected directly to the projector with a blue rigger 35' HDMI.

Same problem with a Xtreamer Prodigy setup and a 10m HDMI no-name brand. The interesting thing is that the first couple of hours it worked OK, then it started to skip frames and finally it went dead completely. Tested a 2m HDMI cable and everything worked great.
So right now I am in a dilemma with several options:
1. Go with a "better" HDMI cable, monster cable of some sorts. May fix the problem if the signal integrity is marginal, not a sure bet though.
2. Go wireless, either 5GHz or 60GHz band. Only video travels to the PJ so throughput should cut it.This would clear out the issue of spiking the PJ via HDMI during lightnings and power fails. Not fond of microwave comms though
3. Get a HDMI repeater that would clean up the signal at the PJ sink end.
4. Put the PJ and the Streamer on a clean supply with surge protector. A good practice to begin with.
5. Fiddle with the streamer internal power supply, clean up and strengthen the HDMI driver supply. Mini project, need wife approval :-)
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Originally Posted by baloo_btru View Post

Fyi for those that recently bought the 50 or were waiting for the 55, it looks like the differences are rf 3d and wireless hdmi and not much else. Makes me happy I didn't wait, though I may have saved a bit of money.

I believe that all projectors should utilize RF technology for 3D sync, there's just too many compromises with IR. In my set-up the IR signal works fine on my front row of seats but doesn't work reliably in the back-row. I'm waiting on the external emitter to come in to see if that will remedy the problem. Had I gone with the 55ES, I'd be 100% certain that would solve the issue.

However, I could not help notice the following in the Engadget article:
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The VPL-HW55ES has a built-in 3D IR transmitter. It is also compatible with an external 3D RF transmitter which provides further 3D synchronisation stability and coverage.

Both projectors have wireless HDMI compatibility as optional accessories. This enables them to receive a video signal from Blu-ray players and game consoles, allowing the AV environment to remain clutter free.

So here's my question:

WILL THE EXTERNAL RF TRANSMITTER BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE 50ES???

That would be a smart move by Sony. Plug the external RF emitter into the Cat-5 port of the 50ES, et voila: RF synchronization.

The only downside would be that I would no longer be able to use my existing 3D (IR) glasses . I'm guessing that the Sony RF emitter will disable the IR signal meaning it's all RF or all IR, but no hybrid solution.

The wireless HDMI "optional accessory" could also potentially work with the 50 ES (or indeed any projector or TV), provided it comes with its own power source. we'll have to wait and see but as far as HDMI is concerned I'm in the camp to hard-wire whenever possible.
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR View Post

Even though I got my 50 like 6 months ago I must say I was relieved to see the 55 was a minor refresh and not a major upgrade. Integrated RF 3d would be nice but certainly not that important.

I'm not sure how "integrated" it really is. The article references an external RF emitter, so it's not seamless/hidden like some projectors that use this technology. I don't understand why Sony don't just build the RF transmitter into the projector itself and be done.
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Interesting, good point ktoolsie.
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So where do I get this projector in NJ? I always prefer to buy locally.....
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AV Science is about 6 hours away from you. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR View Post

AV Science is about 6 hours away from you. biggrin.gif

I said "locally", not "US East coast" smile.gif....
Thanks for suggestion anyway cool.gif
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http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&identifier=S_Map_Jersey_Shore_Outlet

Straight from the Sony Locator site.

Before jumping off the bridge, check with Mike here at AVS. http://shop.avscience.com/ He might have a great price and imo, worth a dial up in any event.

I cannot vouch for either as mine came from a Sony employee promo. All I can say is that Sony Authorized Stores are held to MSRP in almost all cases. Yes, that has an upside in that you can get a turnaround immediately if necessary. On the other hand, AVS has a damn good reputation afaik with regards to "standing behind what they sell".

In either case,

Good Viewing,

Doug k
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AVS is an authorized Sony retailer.
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And AV Science can arrange installation for you as well. No sales tax for a shipment to NJ either.
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I bet this has been covered before:

Anybody watching 3D with the transmitter see a black flicker while wearing there glasses? Seems it happened to me tonight on my first 3d movie, the avengers. How can I stop this from happening? I thought the 3D transmitter was supposed to stop this, but apparently it does t as it happened to me >10 times in a half hour period.

I tried two placements of the transmitter, one above and one below the projection screen.
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Originally Posted by Rezo View Post

I said "locally", not "US East coast" smile.gif....
Thanks for suggestion anyway cool.gif

You're missing out big time if you don't call mike at avs.
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I got everything with Mike at AVS. Helped me out a ton, especially because this is my first projector. I find it ironic that 6 hours is just too far away to buy a product that is built in, and sold by, a foreign corporation. At the end of the day the Sony Projector couldn't be less local, so not sure how much a difference 6 hours in the location of the physical store makes...just saying.

Enjoy the projector though, it's been awesome for me!
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So I finally finished my theater and for the last 8 weeks I've watched at least one movie (or sporting event) a night.

The questions I had going in about the Sony hw50 have all been answered:

1.) Is it bright enough to fill a 150" diagonal 16:9 screen?
ANSWER: Yes, easily.

2.) Is is bright enough to fill a 150" 16:9 in 3D?
ANSWER: Yes. This is the one I was worried about, but honestly it's great in 3D. I wouldn't trade screen size for more brightness. 3D is so much better BIG. The 3D on this projector is WAAAAAAY better than 3D in the theater. It's not as bright as 2D obviously, but you don't even notice because the 3D is so amazing.
I will have to replace the bulb sooner than most people but that's a small price to pay for such an awesome 3D experience. Everyone who sees the 3D cannot believe how cool it is, me included. I only watch 3D movies that were shot native in 3D.

Side note: I find the $20 PS3 glasses better than the glasses that come with the projector (less crosstalk, brighter image). I also use the external 3D emitter and have had 8 pairs of glasses synced for entire movies with zero issues.

3.) Can you sit 1 screen width away with such a large screen without seeing pixelation, SDE, etc?
ANSWER: Yes (but only with 1080p content). Even 1080i (which is what our cable is broadcast in here in NZ) starts to look a little rough sitting so close, but blu-rays look incredible.

4.) Does RC improve sharpness on such a large screen, and not look fake, pixelated, noisy, etc?
ANSWER: Yes (caveat: RC works best with new releases. Older movies that contained more grain and don't have as naturally sharp a picture sometimes look better with RC turned lower or off). Having said that, I never turn it off (have it set at 30 and noise reduction at 50) I just adjust it occasionally.


Here's some photos of my theater. If anyone has any questions about the Sony or my theater build (i did it myself) then please ask. The help provided by AVS was invaluable in the whole process. So thanks.


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Great job on the theater and I agree, it does great on my 159". About the only thing I would advise against is running noise reduction that high but if it looks good to your eye then who am I to tell you what to do.
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Thanks I'm still monkeying with NR.
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Just did an initial test on my HW50ES. Beautiful picture right out of the box! Projected approximately a 150" screen size on an off-white wall. Sorry for the picture quality. Taken on my iPhone 5.

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A few other notes: no changes to factory settings beyond adjusting screen size and centering. Some ambient light getting into room.
My wife gave her stamp of approval so looks like we are set!

Thanks for all your help, Mike!
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Originally Posted by Rezo View Post

So where do I get this projector in NJ? I always prefer to buy locally.....

Mike at AVS is in NY state. Pretty local! Call him for delivered price!

Not an exit on the Tpk, sorry!
Edited by madurodave - 9/7/13 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by andy2sp View Post

I got everything with Mike at AVS. Helped me out a ton, especially because this is my first projector. I find it ironic that 6 hours is just too far away to buy a product that is built in, and sold by, a foreign corporation. At the end of the day the Sony Projector couldn't be less local, so not sure how much a difference 6 hours in the location of the physical store makes...just saying.

Enjoy the projector though, it's been awesome for me!

Great, so be it. Now I have to find out if he has it in stock (rest is easy....) wink.gif
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Originally Posted by JacobC1983 View Post

I tried two placements of the transmitter, one above and one below the projection screen.
Try leaving the emitter on top of the projector and bounce the IR off your screen. I've found that the dispersion is greater and eliminated all flashing/syncing/etc. problems I had.
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

Try leaving the emitter on top of the projector and bounce the IR off your screen. I've found that the dispersion is greater and eliminated all flashing/syncing/etc. problems I had.

Hmmm, I don't really see what you're gaining with that approach vs just using the internal emitter. The distance the IR signal has to travel (emitter->screen->glasses) is unchanged. So I can only assume any improvements are due to an increased signal strength of the external emitter.

My plan is to add an external emitter high above the screen, around where the back wall meets the ceiling, and to angle it so if faces slightly down. That way I roughly halve the distance the signal has to travel from emitter to glasses and eliminate any losses due to screen reflection. I won't know how this will work in practice until I get an external emitter.
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Originally Posted by ktoolsie View Post

Hmmm, I don't really see what you're gaining with that approach vs just using the internal emitter. The distance the IR signal has to travel (emitter->screen->glasses) is unchanged. So I can only assume any improvements are due to an increased signal strength of the external emitter.

My plan is to add an external emitter high above the screen, around where the back wall meets the ceiling, and to angle it so if faces slightly down. That way I roughly halve the distance the signal has to travel from emitter to glasses and eliminate any losses due to screen reflection. I won't know how this will work in practice until I get an external emitter.
I have my emitter stuck to the bottom of my ceiling mounted projector and have had zero sync issues with up to 8 pairs of glasses. I have the emitter pointed slightly down toward the seats. I don't think it's bouncing off the screen it all, but instead hitting the glasses directly from above and behind.
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