Originally Posted by WilliamG
Spent a bit more time with 3D today (Star Trek Into Darkness Blu-ray 3D). I think I've just come to the decision that 3D on Sonys and JVCs just plain Sucks. Yep, Sucks, with a capital "S." Flickery, juddery, disjointed. A total mess. No wonder 3D hasn't taken off at home. FI or or off, it still stinks (off is preferable - not sure how anyone likes FI on for 3D, but to each his own). At least crosstalk is minimal!
Of course, somebody will reply and tell me they watched eight movies one after the other in 3D this weekend, and it was the greatest thing ever, and their wife agreed!
Hopefully next year's CEDIA will be a real 3D projector improvement, because I'm so, so disappointed in 3D at home, currently. The motion is just... not right. I wonder how much of that is in part due to 24p not being a great frame-rate for active-shutter 3D as it's currently implemented?
Anyway, just wanted to rant, because I really do love this projector, but the 3D is just poor. Passive 3D is just so much better (resolution loss aside) at the cinema. No headaches, no flicker. Lovely (crosstalk aside).
If anyone has some some secret formula for good 3D, I'd love to hear it.
Some are more sensitive to flicker than others and some movies are worst than others as well. You really need to watch many different movies before you condemn 3D because some movies are filmed better than others.
One thing I have noticed and that is unless I have the 3D glasses brightness setting on MAX I will notice some flicker. The flicker gets progressively worst as the setting is reduced. 3D on the HW50ES is a little dimmer than some others.
For me with a 1.37 gain SI Solar 4K screen anything larger that 16:9 and 95" is getting too dim. My solution is going to be a second screen for 3D only, my Solar 4K is just too darn good at 2D to loose the contrast, detail and
blacks by going with a higher gain screen. Not sure which screen yet as I have many samples on the way. If one of these material turns out to be the PERFECT all in one screen for 2D and 3D I will use just one. There IS no
free lunch and I believe I will end up with a two screen setup in the end. My new 600ES coming in November will help to increase the brightness a little, the higher gain screen will still be necessary I am sure.
BTW, if you are zooming to fill a wide screen 2.4:1 movie like the new Star Trek Into Darkness then you are loosing 33% of the light off the screen. The only way to gain that back is to use a anamorphic lens however , the HW50
cannot stretch 3D content , it can only stretch 2D content. To stretch 3D content for use with a anamorphic lens on the HW50ES you will need a Lumagen or other similar processor. If you don't use a curved screen I would
suggest just going with one middle of the road high gain flat screen or use two as I intend to. When you run a 16:9 3D movie from your HW50ES you get all the pixels and thus 33% more brightness. on a CIH screen it will be
a noticeable increase in light.