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post #31 of 115
10/12/12 at 8:56am
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You haven't been around long, have you?
Cop Rock?
My Mother The Car??
The Chevy Chase Show????
Manimal???????????
And that's just off the top of my head.

Hey... I liked My Mother The Car! Who doesn't like Jerry Van Dyke? Well, I was pretty young. Okay, forget I said it.
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post #32 of 115
10/12/12 at 9:42am
If I had to wish, it would be Survivor and every other "reality show".
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post #33 of 115
10/12/12 at 7:06pm
"My Mother the Car" actually lasted two seasons, didn't it?  Jerry Van Dyke's next series was "Accidental Family," which was axed after three months, a rarity in those days.  A couple years later Jerry was a guest on a special that Dick was hosting, and he asked (in a scripted skit, of course) if Dick had even seen "Accidental Family," to which Dick answered, "I was out of town that week."
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post #34 of 115
10/12/12 at 7:33pm
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If I had to wish, it would be Survivor and every other "reality show".

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post #35 of 115
10/12/12 at 8:00pm
We have our first casualty of mid-season 2012-2013. NBC has dumped the mid-season replacement show starring Dane Cook. Apparently it was so awful they dropped it before it even aired a single episode. They filmed 4 eps of a 6 ep order.
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post #36 of 115
10/12/12 at 8:12pm
Actually, "Made In Jersey" was axed the other day.
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post #37 of 115
10/12/12 at 8:19pm
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Hey... I liked My Mother The Car! Who doesn't like Jerry Van Dyke? Well, I was pretty young. Okay, forget I said it.

Didn't Jerry pass up the role of "Gilligan" for that show?
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post #38 of 115
10/13/12 at 1:15am
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Actually, "Made In Jersey" was axed the other day.

The poster wrote "mid-season."
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post #39 of 115
10/13/12 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by jpillar View Post

If I had to wish, it would be Survivor and every other "reality show".
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post #40 of 115
10/13/12 at 5:20am
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post #41 of 115
10/13/12 at 6:11am
IMHO, Survivor is a fantastic show. Amazing Race is great also.

Every other "reality" show bites ass.

Particularly Honey Boo Boo, and all of the "wives" shows.

Although, to be fair, I've only ever watched about 5 seconds of any of them.
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post #42 of 115
10/13/12 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by jpillar View Post

If I had to wish, it would be Survivor and every other "reality show".
I think Reality Shows should be done in a mini-series format.
Episode 1: Setup and preliminaries
Episode 2: Actual "competition"
Episode 3: Finals and conclusion
and DONE!
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post #43 of 115
10/13/12 at 7:09am
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I think Reality Shows should be done in a mini-series format.
Episode 1: Setup and preliminaries
Episode 2: Actual "competition"
Episode 3: Finals and conclusion
and DONE!
I'd have more respect for these shows if they didn't have the same orchestrated cast of characters every time:

- The Male Jock
- The Female Jock
- The princess who has no business being there
- The guy who's too old to keep up
- The gay guy
- The vindictive female that conspires with, then betrays everyone.
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post #44 of 115
10/13/12 at 3:09pm
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CBS has pulled the plug on Made In Jersey. Crap. mad.gif I liked that series.

So did I. I thought Janet Montgomery was very charming.

I liked the show too. Perhaps the word Jersey in the title kept some viewers from watching. Not meant as bashing the state, only Jersey Shore. smile.gif

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post #45 of 115
10/13/12 at 3:19pm
Never thought about Jersey Shore having a negative affect on Made in Jersey. But, now that you mention it.
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post #46 of 115
10/13/12 at 6:13pm
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I liked the show too. Perhaps the word Jersey in the title kept some viewers from watching. Not meant as bashing the state, only Jersey Shore. smile.gif

I liked the show as well, but then I from Jersey.
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post #47 of 115
10/13/12 at 6:58pm
Did'nt CBS cancel Unforgettable last year and it was getting 9-10 million viewers, yet they they'll keep survivor, the great race or whatever that show is called and bring back Under Cover boss. How under cover can it be with TV cameras following you around.
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post #48 of 115
10/13/12 at 7:36pm
On "Undercover Boss" they supposedly make the excuse that the boss in disguise is being filmed for some other type of reality show about people changing careers or something like that.

Anyhow, the theory is that scripted series are more expensive to produce, or so the theory goes, so scripted shows need higher ratings to prove profitable, in comparison to reality shows.

So, given that "Made in Jersey" has been canceled, does this thread now turn to speculating which will be the next new series to get the axe?
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post #49 of 115
10/13/12 at 8:12pm
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Did'nt [sick] CBS cancel Unforgettable last year and it was getting 9-10 million viewers

It isn't the total number of viewers, it is the 18-49 demo they are after.
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post #50 of 115
10/13/12 at 8:34pm
Unforgettable was given a reprieve - it was subsequently renewed, but the three side characters were canned.
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post #51 of 115
10/13/12 at 9:08pm
I get the 18-49 male demo is what they want but in this day and age getting 8-10 million viewers regardless of what demographic should at least warrant keeping a show on the air.
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post #52 of 115
10/13/12 at 9:55pm
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Never thought about Jersey Shore having a negative affect on Made in Jersey. But, now that you mention it.

My assumption was that it was along those lines, but I never saw a preview for it.
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post #53 of 115
10/13/12 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by dattier View Post

So, given that "Made in Jersey" has been canceled, does this thread now turn to speculating which will be the next new series to get the axe?

May as well. I suspect there will be plenty to follow.
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post #54 of 115
10/13/12 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by Demolition Man View Post

I get the 18-49 male demo is what they want but in this day and age getting 8-10 million viewers regardless of what demographic should at least warrant keeping a show on the air.

In this case, I believe it is a combine male/female 18-49. In either event, if a majority of the 8-10 Mil viewers are outside the demo, the show ain't gonna make it. The advertisers want the eyeballs of the buying public. They pay the bills.

I have a friend who also believes that total viewers should count for something. I wish that was the case, but it seems not.

If all 8-10 mill viewers were 1 thru 17 and 50 thru 999, the show would be canceled because the 18-49 demo rating would be zero. They don't care that the rest of us spend money, we just don't spend it on their products.
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post #55 of 115
10/13/12 at 10:07pm
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May as well. I suspect there will be plenty to follow.

And not one of them will any of those crappy so-called reality shows. mad.gif
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post #56 of 115
10/14/12 at 10:10pm
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I too would love to see EVERY reality show wiped off the face of TV, including the vaunted Survivor and Amazing Race after all they spawned this whole crappy genre.

But, and it's a big one, what would they replace those shows with? Looking at this years crop of scripted shows I truly think the well has run dry, the bulk of these shows are bad, and the big drop off in ratings for all the networks proves that point. Unless the broadcast networks are willing to live with cable channel ratings they are not going to try and stick with edgy, unique shows that grab the attention and loyalty of a handful of viewers -- Mad Men would never survive on CBS -- and how many Emmy has it won?

I think the fact is we are living in a post-big-network world, but they have yet to realize that.
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post #57 of 115
10/15/12 at 12:36pm
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CBS has pulled the plug on Made In Jersey. Crap. mad.gif I liked that series.

Yeah, they pulled a show, which I thought was pretty good drawing 6.4 million and don't even give it a chance. Yet Game of Thrones which I also like and on a much higher budget draws 4.3 million, though on HBO, and it' s a success. Go figure. As for the 18-49 demographic they are telling me that the median income and purchasing power of the 18-28 age group is higher than the 50-59 age group. Think not.
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post #58 of 115
10/15/12 at 1:00pm
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Yeah, they pulled a show, which I thought was pretty good drawing 6.4 million and don't even give it a chance. Yet Game of Thrones which I also like and on a much higher budget draws 4.3 million, though on HBO, and it' s a success. Go figure. As for the 18-49 demographic they are telling me that the median income and purchasing power of the 18-28 age group is higher than the 50-59 age group. Think not.
Well, comparing ANYTHING about broadcast and premium cable is kinda apples and oranges. Broadcast, with a pure advertiser driven model, needs eyeballs, pure and simple. HBO, with steady premium subscriber revenue whether people are watching that particular show or not, does not.
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post #59 of 115
10/15/12 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by jpillar View Post

Yeah, they pulled a show, which I thought was pretty good drawing 6.4 million and don't even give it a chance. Yet Game of Thrones which I also like and on a much higher budget draws 4.3 million, though on HBO, and it' s a success. Go figure. As for the 18-49 demographic they are telling me that the median income and purchasing power of the 18-28 age group is higher than the 50-59 age group. Think not.

That's not what they're saying. The theory is, people in their 50's are set in their ways. They've decided what products they like and dislike, and are less likely to be affected by advertising, so their eyeballs are worth less. Also, DINK's (dual income, no kids) have the most disposable income. They're likely in their 20's. Those in their 50's are likely to be putting their kids through college and saving for retirement. I'm remembering back to an undergrad level marketing course from a decade ago.
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post #60 of 115
10/18/12 at 11:24am
NBC just killed the monkey. Animal Practice is done.

Next?
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