This mix is not discreet either, its matrixed
Edited by dvdmike007 - 11/16/12 at 12:23pm
It's all internal, 140w/ch for the 7 main channels, 50w/ch for the presence channels.
Pretty sure its discontinued now, never made the jump to HDMI 1.4 for 3D
I'm pretty sure Denon has a 11.2 unit as well
There are several new 3D capable 9.1 AVR's available with front height channels,
funny thing it's just catching on now...Yamaha started their first in way back in 2004 with the RX-Z9
the latest Yamaha Aventage series RX-A3020 (MSRP $2k)
is 9 channels at 150w/ch internal, expandable to 11.1 (for adding rear height channels) using an external amp.
Gimmick? maybe, it's certainly not for everyone...I feel the same about the 3D craze.
The cool thing about all those extra internal amps, they "could" potentially be discrete with a firmware upgrade when content is available,
and extra channels can also be used to power up to 3 additional zones if you don't need 11 in your main room.
I've had nothing but Yamaha AVR's since the 90's as well (about 7 of them so far ) and they have always been excellent.
I use the front presence channels for better front sound stage on Bluray concerts/music vids where rear surrounds are not important.
From what I've been able to find on DTS NEO:X
its actually a standard 7.1 configuration with a pair of front wides and a pair of front height speakers
There are plenty of people utilizing front height channels already, or wides but not sure about both simultaneously for 11.1
If anyone has a unit out capable of decoding and amplifying 11.1, My best guess is to look to Denon and Marantz, Yamaha and Onkyo
if they don't have one on the shelves already, it's probably on the bench soon to be released to the public.