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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Between work, my son's sports and family obligations, I have a hard time finding any time to work on them. I hope to get them completed by Sunday, but not sure that I can do that.

I can identify with that!
post #62 of 238
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Just finished up one speaker. Hope to finish up the other two tomorrow night. smile.gif Going to bed now.
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post #63 of 238
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All of them are completed. Do have some paint touch up to do. One waveguide was very tight going in.

Front left in its temporary spot. All speakers will be located behind the curved AT screen.


Center


Front right


With the toe-in that I have on these they image very well. I have only hooked up the front left and front right. Did not even do any setup (listened for a couple hours and then went to finished the third speaker) and these sound very good. I think I will be happy with these for a while. I need to do some A/B against the JTR's.
Edited by AV Science Sales 5 - 11/18/12 at 5:23pm
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post #64 of 238
Great work Mike. I look forward to hearing your impressions relative to the JTRs. Are they T12's or T8s?
post #65 of 238
Great work Mike. The "toe in" should work pretty well behind the curved screen.
post #66 of 238
Those new speakers turned out very nice!! I love the slot port.
post #67 of 238
They look awesome and I know how good they sound too. smile.gif You've got me itching to finish my center...surrounds are next though. Good job, man.
post #68 of 238
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Thanks guys. This weekend, I hope I have time to pull the screen down, remove the sound panels on the wall, install the new speakers and rework the sound panels to fit the new speakers. of course, I have to work on getting our 12'-6" Christmas tree up. I only do the tree and the lights, wife does the decorating. Looking forward to having the new speakers in place. Only bad thing, I will not be able to see them.
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post #69 of 238
Awesome, now want to build a pair of boxes for me? lol I just don't have the shop space right now to DIY.
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Awesome, now want to build a pair of boxes for me? lol I just don't have the shop space right now to DIY.

I have a large work shop, but did not have the time to go there and build these. The shop is 12 miles away from my house. I have a very understanding wife. smile.gif I actually built these inside. I put down plastic to cover the hardwood floor and glued them up. I did do the sanding outside and the painting in the garage. I built them in my family room shown here: http://s243.beta.photobucket.com/user/mjg100photo/library/Downstairs%20room
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post #71 of 238
So how you liking the sound of these, how do they handle sound from mid-range to bass.

im curious too about sound quality, and may i ask , the tweeter what dose it compare to, ? ribbon, paper..? thanks.
post #72 of 238
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I like these speakers. I got them installed behind the screen Saturday night and ran Audyssey XT32 on my system. The front speakers are against the front wall (center is recessed partially into front wall, flush with sound panels). I have the mains crossed slightly in front of me. Audyssey set the front three to full range. I set them to 80hz. I listened to some movies that I was very familiar with and I listened to some music. For music the SEOS is better. For movies the SEOS and JTR's are pretty close. The SEOS speakers seem a little smoother, a little bit cleaner. I ended up turning the master volume louder than before. I used to listen to movies at -15 to -10 on master volume. I found myself listening at -5. Reference level sounded better with the SEOS, cleaner, less harsh. I need to break out REW and the calibrated mic and see what I actually have, but finding the time to do so is hard for me this time of the year. October, November, December and January are very busy months for me. I will see about taking a pic of my front stage.
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post #73 of 238
thanks.

ill keep an eye on the tread, and ask more questions after you have run them for alittle longer smile.gif have fun whit the new toys .
post #74 of 238
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The more I listen to these speakers, the more impressed I am. So smooth and clean, that you just want to up the volume, much louder than what I used to listen with the JTR's.
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post #75 of 238
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Watched Total Recall on BD last night. These speakers are so smooth and clean, that I watched the whole movie at reference level. It was enjoyable loud. What I mean, nothing at all harsh. The bass in this movie is pretty good.
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post #76 of 238
That is what I like about compression driver tweeters instead of domes. They don't get harsh when turned up loud assuming no breakup and decent horn/waveguide.
post #77 of 238
Mike, what JTR models did the SEOS speakers replace? That's great news that you liked the SEOS better, and I agree with you about listening to these at higher volumes. They sound great and you really can't tell how loud they're playing until you try to talk to the person sitting next to you. biggrin.gif
post #78 of 238
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That is what I like about compression driver tweeters instead of domes. They don't get harsh when turned up loud assuming no breakup and decent horn/waveguide.

The JTR speakers don't use domes, they use compression drivers as well. I'm not sure if you were talking about Mike Garrett's comparison or not?

So Mike you have me curious as well. What JTR model and year speakers are you comparing? I have 2010 Triple 8's that I know Jeff updated the compression driver on but, I never did that because it also required a new crossover and it got pricey for the my three speakers. I only find them harsh sometimes on certain rock/metal music but, for movies they are great. You got me interested now smile.gif
post #79 of 238
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

The JTR speakers don't use domes, they use compression drivers as well. I'm not sure if you were talking about Mike Garrett's comparison or not?
So Mike you have me curious as well. What JTR model and year speakers are you comparing? I have 2010 Triple 8's that I know Jeff updated the compression driver on but, I never did that because it also required a new crossover and it got pricey for the my three speakers. I only find them harsh sometimes on certain rock/metal music but, for movies they are great. You got me interested now smile.gif

2009 T8's. I also looked at updating the crossovers and drivers. Going to be working on a couple new subs and re-working one old sub. Have to make room for the seating, coming next week. Also going to see if I can add an LED light kit to my AT screen, to see if it will show off the speakers.
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post #80 of 238
Mike, do you by any chance have a spare TD12M?
post #81 of 238
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Mike, do you by any chance have a spare TD12M?

Sorry, sold them 6 weeks ago to Noah.
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post #82 of 238
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Sorry, sold them 6 weeks ago to Noah.


That man is fast. biggrin.gif
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That man is fast. biggrin.gif

Actually I've also been known as "Sloah" smile.gif

If you come across a pair, I'll take one as I also need a third.
post #84 of 238
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Actually I've also been known as "Sloah" smile.gif

If you come across a pair, I'll take one as I also need a third.


Lol. Let's start hunting Noah. We'll split the goods. tongue.gif
post #85 of 238
I have 5, but no phase plugs. frown.gif I thought John was going to stock some?
post #86 of 238
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Now that I have my front stage put back together, here are some pictures.

Two SI 18's and one Mael-X 18". Not shown are two 12" TC Sounds in the back corners. The TC Sounds have a copper sleeve on the pole piece.


Curved screen and yes picture was taken with the flash turned on.


My seating.
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post #87 of 238
Looking very nice. How big is the screen and what projector are you using?
post #88 of 238
Very nice Mike. Did you end up painting the phase plugs?
post #89 of 238
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Looking very nice. How big is the screen and what projector are you using?

The screen is 9' wide, curved EN4K, viewed from 9'. The projector is a JVC RS45 with an anamorphic lens, Lumagen and a Darbee. The sound panels behind the seats look white in the black room, but they are actually dark gray. Here are some of the same panels in another room with light gray walls.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/mjg100photo/Downstairs%20room/P1010452.jpg
Edited by AV Science Sales 5 - 1/30/13 at 5:41pm
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post #90 of 238
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Very nice Mike. Did you end up painting the phase plugs?

Yes, I painted them with black high temperature spray paint. High temp is probably overkill, but it cost very little more than regular paint, so I used it.
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