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post #1171 of 3777
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Originally Posted by GrizzlyAnimal View Post

I'm pretty happy with my settings i have now. but if you don't mind do you care to share your settings, like u said it's really all up to the person and how they want it but i'm always open to suggestions .. i would appreciate it , if not that's totally fine just thought i would ask

Here's what I'm currently running on 1.9.13 (AWESOME PICTURE)
Picture Mode: Football
Backlight: 80
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Color: 60
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 6
Color Temp: Cool
Red Gain: 118
Green Gain: 128
Blue Gain: 120
Red Offset: 127
Green Offset: 125
Blue Offset: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG NR: Low
Color Enhancement: Grn/Flesh
Adaptive Luma: Medium
Film: Auto
Backlight Control: OFF
Ambient Light Sensor: OFF
post #1172 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Nicholas440 View Post

Another issue I've seen talked about with the Vizio's is the remote control. I now have 2 of them, and both are somewhat unresponsive unless you are aimed directly at the receiver. On my new 32 inch LED set, the remote is really bad, I often have to hit the buttons several times to get the menu to do anything. I was considering trying new batteries but I doubt that will fix it. I've read several posts about weak performance of the remotes so I thought I would add my experience with the 2 remotes I have. They do work, however they are not nearly as responsive as other remotes I have.

I have had no problems with my remote. I DO NOT have to point directly at TV for a response. I can have the remote sitting by my left side with my legs bent holding up my laptop and the TV 10 feet away to my right side and hit the MUTE button and it works every time. I have been very impressed with the remote especially the qwerty keyboard on the back.

I am also very impressed with the sound quality.....right now this is in our bedroom and the sound is nice and loud even at a low setting. I am not using a sound bar right now. Eventually this will be moved down to the living room but we have a corner cabinet that holds a 37" Samsung that we are trying to sell.
post #1173 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Nicholas440 View Post

Jack, you might be right about their delivery but I have my doubts about where the set went , mainly because the guy has the Bill of Lading in front of him and he knew to call and tell me he had no set to deliver. I think if it were a matter of the old serials or panels they suspect are bad he would have told me Vizio wont deliver the sets with those old numbers on them now due to potential problems... You can see how I felt when they emailed you and postponed delivery for many days. I just felt the guy who I assume works for Manna, knew where the set went but called Vizio and asked for another to deliver to me, then they called and said theres a delay. I was not happy because I'm missing 2 days of work, plus I already spent that $300 bucks on another Vizio 32 inch LED which is really nice, but in front of my E601 which has been black since Christmas looks awfully small but at least I can watch TV.. I'm most likely hang the 32 inch in my bedroom and it will look good on the wall there......

My set will arrive tomorrow ( Thursday) between noon and 4 pm, so I'll post what happens and I'll also post the new Serial number so we all have an idea of if it's just a batch of those 34 xxxxxx on up serials... I hope I get a 46 or better serial on my new one.... Actually my set here that failed has a serial of 4309XXXX so that isn't very comforting either.... I'm hard on a set, I run it almost 24/7 and I look at it like a light bulb, if you leave a light bulb on all the time it will run longer, it wont have to cool down and heat up , I think the continual cooling and heating of many of those components can cause them to fail early like a light bulb can....

Please make sure to complete my survey in an earlier post so we can all appreciate the trends of this product.
post #1174 of 3777
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Originally Posted by montecore View Post

Here's what I'm currently running on 1.9.13 (AWESOME PICTURE)
Picture Mode: Football
Backlight: 80
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Color: 60
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 6
Color Temp: Cool
Red Gain: 118
Green Gain: 128
Blue Gain: 120
Red Offset: 127
Green Offset: 125
Blue Offset: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG NR: Low
Color Enhancement: Grn/Flesh
Adaptive Luma: Medium
Film: Auto
Backlight Control: OFF
Ambient Light Sensor: OFF
Thanks will give these settings a try
post #1175 of 3777
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Alright yall. I got to Walmart and Costco today. I have some good news and bad news, and a mea culpa.

The mea culpa is for spreading bad information.

The bad news is that the Vizio E601-A3 doesnt use a Samsung/Sony S-PVA panel.

The good news is that the Vizio E601-A3 uses a Sharp X-Gen ASV UV2A non-Quatron panel. Yeah!

I apologize for spreading bad information, I spied so many TVs the other day, I got mixed up, I guess. Today I focussed on the 2 65" Vizio's at Walmart, the M650VSE and the M3D651SV, both of which used Samsung S-PVA panels that look like this...



The 70" Sharp 70LE640U that was next to these two uses the previous generation Sharp X Gen ASV panel that looks like this...



The M3D651SV had a really glossy reflective screen. The Sharp had a significant and effective Anti-Reflective diffusing coating. It definitely had a positive overall effect on viewing. The Vizio M650SV had an Anti Reflective coating too, but it wasnt as diffusing as the Sharp, but definitely better for cutting perception of reflections than the other Vizio 65er. I really like the M650VSE. Because the M650VSE has a thinner bezel and downward firing speakers the profile is much more compact compared to the Vizio M3D651SV.


Now onto Costco. My time here was cut short, but here are my observations.

The Vizio E601-A3 definitely uses a Sharp X-Gen ASV UVA2 panel which is the same as in the Sharp 60C6400U that was two postions down with an LG 60" Plasma in between. It looks like this...



The Anti Reflective coatings on these two sets were pretty similar in diffusion, with the nod going to the Sharp 60C6400U. The Vizio M3D550SL was very glossy compared to these 2, probably exascerbated by the dark filter it probably has for the S-IPS panel, additionally it had a pebbled front panel which I found odd. And it also a warp in the middle of the screen, which I suspect isnt representative of most sets, but peculiar to this particular unit....it looked lke a wave in a window glass so that when a reflection moves across it as you walk by you can see the non-flatness of the panel acrylic covering. Based on the more reflective screen alone, I am recommending the 60" Vizio to my brother over the M3D550SL, plus it natively has superior blacks, and the extra screen size.

I didnt have enough time to do any extended comparison of the Vizio E601-A3 and the Sharp 60C6400U.....and especially couldnt delve into picture controls...so any detailed comparison would essentially be meaningless. The Vizio was $979 and the Sharp was about $300 more. I dont see Sharp having any special sauce that would add $300 benefit to the PQ starting from the same base panels both edge lit LED with no dimming.

Liking the Vizio E601-A3 more every time I look at it.

Again I apologize for spreading false information. frown.gif Just trying to help out.

How do you tell which screens these are using? Do you have special instrument that you are using? Are those pictures just displaying the color spectrum that the screen will allow? Where did you capture those images?
post #1176 of 3777
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Originally Posted by RichardCarver View Post

Are you not able to set your cable box to LPCM?

I have a Samsung cable box thorugh time warner. I've been through every secret menu i can find, and have even called time warner support, all they want to do is send a technician out. No one seems to know how to do it.

I can set it to PCM audio, but nothing comes out HDMI, I have to have HDMI selected as my audio souce and there is no way to change how it's decoded. Plus i'd have to do this on my wii, ps3, and xobx. It seems like i shouldn't have to band-aid an obvious flaw in their system.
post #1177 of 3777
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Originally Posted by montecore View Post

How do you tell which screens these are using? Do you have special instrument that you are using? Are those pictures just displaying the color spectrum that the screen will allow? Where did you capture those images?

I LOVED my Vizio right up to the time that the screen went black!
The matte screen was soooooo much better than the previous 64" whose place it took. While it worked, absolutely lovely image... especially for a non-calibrated non crt based unit. biggrin.gif
post #1178 of 3777
Today I received my new replacement TV to replace the one that went black on Christmas Day after 2 weeks . The delivery guys came about 11 am today and brought the new set inside in a brand new box all sealed up. They took the new one out of the box and set it aside and put my old one in the box. They told me that I would have to mount the new set because liability issues prevents them from installing it.

I mounted the new set and let it come up to room temperature then I turned it on..... The picture is just as amazing as the one that failed , it's very crisp and the colors are amazing.

There are no lip sync issues so far, its been on all day and all night so far and I plan on leaving it run 24 hours a day for a while like I ran my old projection set and see if it holds up. If all the components are good it should keep on working.

I don't notice any blurring and I watched a movie with some fast action and I couldn't detect any motion issues. Also the new remote is very responsive much more so than the other one I had.

My serial number on this new one is a 50XXXX but I notice after the letters LTFR it has WAN , like LTFRWAN50XXXXX and I don't think my old set had WAN in the serial , or maybe I was not to attentive in that area....

The screen appears to be uniformly dark all over when I had it all darkened down to see if it had bright patches like the other set had on it but this panel seems to be very even all over with no brighter areas that I can notice. The movie had some great blacks in it, and I'm still tinkering with the settings a little to see just whats going to be best on my eyes in my living room.

So , there we are, hopefully this set will continue to run for a long time. I hope all of you who are waiting on a replacement get a good one, and maybe all those failures were just due to a bad batch of panels. The guys that delivered this set today asked me what happened to the old TV and I said it just lost its picture and went black. They told me this seemed to be what everyone one who was getting a Vizio 60 inch were saying, so there definately are a lot of bad panels out there that have failed. We'll see how this one holds up....
post #1179 of 3777
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Originally Posted by pietili View Post

I just went to Costco and looked at this tv and the picture was really washed out!! Is this due to the setting they had the tv at because I am having second thoughts about purchasing now.1.gif

It's hard to say what made that one look washed out but I can tell you that I shopped around a lot at Christmas time and I looked at several stores at this Vizio 60 inch TV , and I have not seen a washed out picture yet. My first one failed in 2 weeks, and I'm on my second one now, and it's as sharp and crisp as can be. You may need to fiddle with the settings a little bit, and believe me they give you all sorts of picture adjustments so you and tweak it any way you like it. They give you all sorts of modes to pick from, as well as color temperature adjustments and so on.

It's possible someone there at Costco tinkered with the picture settings and thus you're seeing a dull looking screen maybe ... but these sets are very crisp, sharp, and some of the best colors I have ever seen. The flesh tones on both that I have had are spot on, with no pinkish or greenish hue to them like you see on some TV's. This set will amaze you right out of the box I'm sure.... and the price is about the best there is on a 60 inch LED Smart TV.....
post #1180 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Nicholas440 View Post

Today I received my new replacement TV to replace the one that went black on Christmas Day after 2 weeks . The delivery guys came about 11 am today and brought the new set inside in a brand new box all sealed up. They took the new one out of the box and set it aside and put my old one in the box. They told me that I would have to mount the new set because liability issues prevents them from installing it.

I mounted the new set and let it come up to room temperature then I turned it on..... The picture is just as amazing as the one that failed , it's very crisp and the colors are amazing.

There are no lip sync issues so far, its been on all day and all night so far and I plan on leaving it run 24 hours a day for a while like I ran my old projection set and see if it holds up. If all the components are good it should keep on working.

I don't notice any blurring and I watched a movie with some fast action and I couldn't detect any motion issues. Also the new remote is very responsive much more so than the other one I had.

My serial number on this new one is a 50XXXX but I notice after the letters LTFR it has WAN , like LTFRWAN50XXXXX and I don't think my old set had WAN in the serial , or maybe I was not to attentive in that area....

The screen appears to be uniformly dark all over when I had it all darkened down to see if it had bright patches like the other set had on it but this panel seems to be very even all over with no brighter areas that I can notice. The movie had some great blacks in it, and I'm still tinkering with the settings a little to see just whats going to be best on my eyes in my living room.

So , there we are, hopefully this set will continue to run for a long time. I hope all of you who are waiting on a replacement get a good one, and maybe all those failures were just due to a bad batch of panels. The guys that delivered this set today asked me what happened to the old TV and I said it just lost its picture and went black. They told me this seemed to be what everyone one who was getting a Vizio 60 inch were saying, so there definately are a lot of bad panels out there that have failed. We'll see how this one holds up....

Please make sure the survey is updated with your old and new info so we can all track.
post #1181 of 3777
Go an update from Vizio regarding the lip sync issue.
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Response Via Email (Randal) 01/11/2013 10:10 AM
Jason,

There is a firmware update that is in the works to be released soon. Unfortunately, I do not have an exact date on when that will be released. As long as the TV is connected to your home network, it will automatically receive and update the firmware as it becomes available.

If you need any additional assistance feel free to contact VIZIO at 1-877-878-4946 or chat with us at chat.vizio.com

Thanks and have a great day!

Randal Wigton
VIZIO -The Home of Entertainment Freedom for All
800 Stevens Port Drive Suite DD750
Dakota Dunes SD 57049
Phone 877-878-4946
visit us: www.vizio.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/vizio
Twitter : www.twitter.com/viziotv
post #1182 of 3777
So what is the general concensus on this tv currently? I was very interested in it when it first came out but then several problems started creeping up. Hoping there were just a few things that needed to be worked out. It does sound like those who have gotten replacements are happy with them.

My biggest concern is the handling of motion. I don't like the soap opera effect and coming from a 50" Samsung plasma I'm used to nice motion. I've read posts on here about seeing double golf balls in the air when watching golf and bad football.

Also is vizio going to continue making this same model for 2013 I assume?

Thanks,

-Guru
post #1183 of 3777
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Originally Posted by EvilCamaroSS View Post

Go an update from Vizio regarding the lip sync issue.

Sweet! this was my only "real" issue with the tv. cool.gif
post #1184 of 3777
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Originally Posted by ListedGuru View Post

So what is the general concensus on this tv currently? I was very interested in it when it first came out but then several problems started creeping up. Hoping there were just a few things that needed to be worked out. It does sound like those who have gotten replacements are happy with them.

My biggest concern is the handling of motion. I don't like the soap opera effect and coming from a 50" Samsung plasma I'm used to nice motion. I've read posts on here about seeing double golf balls in the air when watching golf and bad football.

Also is vizio going to continue making this same model for 2013 I assume?

Thanks,

-Guru
the motion isnt going to be a problem, you just turn off all the motion enhancements....my tv is perfect, it has been since i purchased it....
post #1185 of 3777
Montecore, I'm not sure this is important for the database, but the numbers at my local Costco, that I could see, ranged from 44 to 48.

SC

ps - Not an owner yet, but I was very interested in this set until the last few pages of this thread, and the sudden failures.
post #1186 of 3777
Does this set support 60hz at 1080p?
post #1187 of 3777
I have had my new replacement set on now for 2 days non stop I have not shut it off, and have not seen any lip sync, or motion issues... everything is working perfectly and the picture is amazing. I put my hand on the back of the set to see if there are any hot spots or areas of heat and surprisingly the entire area is cool except one spot that is barely warmer than my hand compared to the rest of the rear panel cover and I assume thats where the power supply board must be.

I have my backlight set a little high at 80 but I like the picture to look bright. When I set backlight at 75 or lower the picture isn't as bright.

I also set brightness down to 50 to allow the blacks to be blacker, and Contrast at 60 which seems to keep the whites about where my eyes are comfortable because I watch a lot of this TV and there is no eyestrain that I can feel as I had with my old TV after several hours.


Very important words from my Eye Doctor, he's a fan of the 10 / 20 / 20 rule when on a computer, reading or watching a lot of TV. He says every 10 minutes look off in the distance about 20 feet, and blink the eyes 20 times while focusing on an object at a 20 foot distance.... This will reduce any strain on the eyes because when you watch tv, use your computer, or just read a book, you don't blink as often as you should and the 20 blinks will excercise the eyes, and lubricate them at the same time. Good tip to keep your eyes in good condition.

I read that when you run the backlight up real strong you will shorten the life of the TV and also cause it to use a few more watts of electricity as well but I bought the TV to watch, and if it runs for 3 years I'll have my $900 out of it and throw it away... Also 3 years from now I'm sure the panels will be even thinner and better....
post #1188 of 3777
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Originally Posted by schex View Post

I will definitely redo it or reinforce it. We used stainless bolts, I am not familiar with close tolerance recessed hex bolts. I would guess they would need to be countersunk?
Sorry for off topic...

Still tweaking settings on mine.
Is anyone a tennis fan?? On my current settings the ball is pretty bad. Would like to get it fixed before the Australian Open, if anyone has any suggestions.
Thanks
Schex

i am a tennis fan, turn off all the motion enhancements....i also set my sharpness at 6...i was watching some tennis and paused the picture and messed with the settings while looking at the net...it seemed to really help in the settings as far as the sharpness of the picture....
post #1189 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Smithcraft View Post

Montecore, I'm not sure this is important for the database, but the numbers at my local Costco, that I could see, ranged from 44 to 48.

SC

ps - Not an owner yet, but I was very interested in this set until the last few pages of this thread, and the sudden failures.


Great info....thanks for sharing. I have a 46 from Costco. I would not let the panel failures changed your mind to get this set. Vizio will make good if the panel does fail. The picture is amazing once it is tweaked you cannot beat it in a price of $979. I have not seen any panels there are 46 and higher fail yet. The early failures were 34-44 range. So go out and get your self this gem.
Edited by montecore - 1/12/13 at 3:05pm
post #1190 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Jtyettis View Post

Does this set support 60hz at 1080p?

supports 60HZ at 1080i
post #1191 of 3777
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Originally Posted by montecore View Post

supports 60HZ at 1080i

Does it support 30fps at 1080p? Looking for a spreadsheet on support but not finding. Really hoping for at least that.
post #1192 of 3777
I gave up on this Vizio... first one returned had dead pixels and shut off on it's own. Second one had blotches and the lips sync issue but I forged through. Until the picture went out the other day. Had sound but no picture. I returned it back to Costco and purchased a Panasonic 55" LED and it is FANTASTIC! Great angles, no blotches, sync issues etc..

I really love the look, size and price of the Vizio but too many issues.. Peace out VIZIO!!
post #1193 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Nicholas440 View Post

Today I received my new replacement TV to replace the one that went black on Christmas Day after 2 weeks . The delivery guys came about 11 am today and brought the new set inside in a brand new box all sealed up. They took the new one out of the box and set it aside and put my old one in the box. They told me that I would have to mount the new set because liability issues prevents them from installing it.

I mounted the new set and let it come up to room temperature then I turned it on..... The picture is just as amazing as the one that failed , it's very crisp and the colors are amazing.

There are no lip sync issues so far, its been on all day and all night so far and I plan on leaving it run 24 hours a day for a while like I ran my old projection set and see if it holds up. If all the components are good it should keep on working.

I don't notice any blurring and I watched a movie with some fast action and I couldn't detect any motion issues. Also the new remote is very responsive much more so than the other one I had.

My serial number on this new one is a 50XXXX but I notice after the letters LTFR it has WAN , like LTFRWAN50XXXXX and I don't think my old set had WAN in the serial , or maybe I was not to attentive in that area....

The screen appears to be uniformly dark all over when I had it all darkened down to see if it had bright patches like the other set had on it but this panel seems to be very even all over with no brighter areas that I can notice. The movie had some great blacks in it, and I'm still tinkering with the settings a little to see just whats going to be best on my eyes in my living room.

So , there we are, hopefully this set will continue to run for a long time. I hope all of you who are waiting on a replacement get a good one, and maybe all those failures were just due to a bad batch of panels. The guys that delivered this set today asked me what happened to the old TV and I said it just lost its picture and went black. They told me this seemed to be what everyone one who was getting a Vizio 60 inch were saying, so there definately are a lot of bad panels out there that have failed. We'll see how this one holds up....

Is there a way that you could check the default color temps on normal. On my replacement set they are different than on my original set. Wondering of Vizio made some tweaks in the software. My default on normal is now
104
97
128
128
128
128

Difference is really just in the first and second number the red gain used to be 94 and now is 104 green gain used to be 103 and now default on my set is 97
Edited by Kev4Bama - 1/13/13 at 1:49pm
post #1194 of 3777
Well .. i tried out some settings that where posted some pages back, and i think i found the perfect settings for me.. all i changed was the contrast to 60 here they go


Picture Mode - Vivid
Back light -85
Brightness - 55
Contrast - 80 < changed to 60
Color - 65
Tint - 10
Sharpness - 8

Color temp. - Custom
Red gain - 125
Green gain - 128
Blue gain - 128
Red Offset - 128
Green offset - 128
Blue offset - 128

Advanced Picture Settings -
SME - medium
RCM - precision
Noise Reduction - low
MPEG NR - low
Color Enhancement - rich
Adaptive Luma - extend
Film Mode - Auto
Back light control - DCR
Ambient Light Sensor - medium
post #1195 of 3777
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Originally Posted by montecore View Post

Here's what I'm currently running on 1.9.13 (AWESOME PICTURE)
Picture Mode: Football
Backlight: 80
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Color: 60
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 6
Color Temp: Cool
Red Gain: 118
Green Gain: 128
Blue Gain: 120
Red Offset: 127
Green Offset: 125
Blue Offset: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG NR: Low
Color Enhancement: Grn/Flesh
Adaptive Luma: Medium
Film: Auto
Backlight Control: OFF
Ambient Light Sensor: OFF

I went with these settings are I used the cnet settings and I really like these settings red were a bit high so I tweaked those a bit also went with contrast of 60
post #1196 of 3777
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Originally Posted by vinnier6 View Post

i am a tennis fan, turn off all the motion enhancements....i also set my sharpness at 6...i was watching some tennis and paused the picture and messed with the settings while looking at the net...it seemed to really help in the settings as far as the sharpness of the picture....

Thanks for the help! Which mode were you on? So far I am liking football or even vivid but pretty much end up tweaking them as well.
The Australian just started but I haven't watched a match yet. Football looks great. Off angle viewing not on par with the old plasma but I did know that, the trade off is I actually have to look at the window to see whats outside, instead of just looking at the plasma ;-)
post #1197 of 3777
Vizio delivered my replacement Tv on Friday... albeit 1 hour after the 4 hour delivery they specified. Still, I was there and the new set delivery, setup and takeaway of the old TV was flawless. Didn't tip the two guys though because they were an hour late and cost me 4 more hours time off the job. They can consider that the tip, if they'd like. As it is... I'd take their job at min wage immediately, so they probably need some lessons as to what it takes to keep their jobs by doing it well before they get fired for being late, especially without calling the customer, and get replaced by someone like me who would kick ass at the job and go it as though my life depended on it. These guys were all con man talk trying to make up for their being so late. And, they both needed to use my bathroom while in the house so I need to make sure they didn't leave any bathroom cams.... yes, that is how slimey I felt by the time they left my home.

Still, My new in box Vizio 60" is working perfectly so far... as did the original, and I am just going to leave it on for months just to make sure it isn't another of the fail after a few months units like my first one was.....

So... once again I am very happy with my first...err, second replacement Vizio TV and with their warranty service although it does need some improvement with regard to letting the customer know when they ship the replacement, the expected delivery date, the contact from the delivery company... and finally the folks who actually deliver the TV... on time as promised. frown.gif
post #1198 of 3777
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Originally Posted by montecore View Post

Here's what I'm currently running on 1.9.13 (AWESOME PICTURE)
Picture Mode: Football
Backlight: 80
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Color: 60
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 6
Color Temp: Cool
Red Gain: 118
Green Gain: 128
Blue Gain: 120
Red Offset: 127
Green Offset: 125
Blue Offset: 128
Smooth Motion: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG NR: Low
Color Enhancement: Grn/Flesh
Adaptive Luma: Medium
Film: Auto
Backlight Control: OFF
Ambient Light Sensor: OFF

Thanks! I went with these settings and love the picture so far. My family was amazed when we were watching Finding Nemo tonight!
post #1199 of 3777
I wouldn't worry about any CAMS in the bathroom. I'd be worried about a STD they left on the toilet seat.
post #1200 of 3777
Did anyone manage to get the "smart" functions of this TV to work with their harmony? I tried setting mine and it will not send the "VIA" or "Netflix" signal even though it is selected for my remote.
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