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post #2821 of 3777
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Originally Posted by hollywoodhunt View Post

I'm very surprised that people have found success with the technique. Great job with recalling the thread, by the way. I like the fact that naysayers' opinions went from "this is a terrible idea" to "whatever!"

Honestly, I was almost too worried about the response to my "experiment" to even post. Then I figured: What the heck do I care what you guys think about me! cool.gif
post #2822 of 3777
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Originally Posted by nelliottak View Post

Honestly, I was almost too worried about the response to my "experiment" to even post. Then I figured: What the heck do I care what you guys think about me! cool.gif
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Everyone who posts here with tips and suggestions is taken seriously, even someone who just began posting today...

taken seriously, until proven otherwise of course. tongue.gif

Gene smile.gif
post #2823 of 3777
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Originally Posted by indept View Post

So the cable box is fine though? I'll assume the HDMI for PC is #2 or other than cable, switch the HDMI's between cable & PC & see if it follows.
Everyone having lip sync issues after update, it seems in the audio options the lip sync feature was reset to +3 so just put it back to 0 and it should work.
post #2824 of 3777
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Originally Posted by austin3169285 View Post

Everyone having lip sync issues after update, it seems in the audio options the lip sync feature was reset to +3 so just put it back to 0 and it should work.

I'm not having any lip sync issues, but my audio settings were also not affected by the update.
post #2825 of 3777
Just posting some thoughts and maybe some of you have already figured this out...but I think, at least for me, the lip sync issues only seem to only occur while watching a video source (via HDMI) with Dolby Digital audio. In my set up, audio is sent from the TV via optical to my receiver (with Dolby Digital enabled in the TV's audio options). The lip sync issue intermittently happens on both my PS3 and HTPC.

Resetting the connection seems to temporarily resolve the issue--on my HTPC running Windows Media Center, I can usually just pause the video playback and audio is re-sync'd since the audio mode is reset while playback is paused. On the PS3, it's not quite as easy, but resetting the TV audio option from and back to Dolby Digital resolves the issue (again, temporarily).

I'm guessing the TV's audio processing just can't keep up with passing on the Dolby Digital audio from HDMI to optical--then just hiccups at some point causing the sync issues. Assuming no fix from Vizio ever comes along, I'm looking at three options:
1) Continue dealing with the lip-sync issue
2) Disable forwarding of Dolby Digital audio and lose my 5.1 audio as a result or
3) Replace my receiver to one with with a built-in HDMI switch and remove the TV from the audio equation entirely.

Disclaimer: I should say that I really don't think it's my audio system--I have a pair of Astro A40's with mixamp that have had the problem occur when connected to the TV in place of the audio system.

My long term plan is #3. In the short term, probably #1. I don't mind dealing with it personally, but it's actually quite embarrassing when guests are over for a movie or TV premieres / finales--and honestly, I think it looks bad on Vizio too.
post #2826 of 3777
I guess I'm lucky, in that I've never had the lip sync issue, but I only have my HTPC, XBoxs, and HD-A30 hooked up via the Pioneer.

I would guess that there might be a lip sync issue with the 360, but I think that's just from the game mechanics not an actual lip sync problem.

iautotron, in your previous settings you had smooth motion on High, and Real Cinema on Precision.

Finally, the spreadsheet has been updated.

SC
post #2827 of 3777
I just bought one of these a few weeks ago. It's my first HDTV. I've been using the settings from: http://www.hometheater.com/content/vizio-e60li-a3-lcd-hdtv-settings I was pretty impressed with these setttings but on some material the colors looked a little washed out. I ran the AVS calibration disk and used some THX blue filter glasses. The calibration with the disk matched up with the settings from hometheater.com with the exception of the Tint. I ended up turning the Tint to -2 and now everything looks great. I've had some problems with the Wifi disconnecting even though it shows a strong signal so I ended up attaching an ethernet cable all the way down to my router in the basement. I have noticed some lip-sync problems from time to time but they seem to go away if I go in and out of the menu.
post #2828 of 3777
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Originally Posted by xenokira View Post

Just posting some thoughts and maybe some of you have already figured this out...but I think, at least for me, the lip sync issues only seem to only occur while watching a video source (via HDMI) with Dolby Digital audio. In my set up, audio is sent from the TV via optical to my receiver (with Dolby Digital enabled in the TV's audio options). The lip sync issue intermittently happens on both my PS3 and HTPC.

Resetting the connection seems to temporarily resolve the issue--on my HTPC running Windows Media Center, I can usually just pause the video playback and audio is re-sync'd since the audio mode is reset while playback is paused. On the PS3, it's not quite as easy, but resetting the TV audio option from and back to Dolby Digital resolves the issue (again, temporarily).

I'm guessing the TV's audio processing just can't keep up with passing on the Dolby Digital audio from HDMI to optical--then just hiccups at some point causing the sync issues. Assuming no fix from Vizio ever comes along, I'm looking at three options:
1) Continue dealing with the lip-sync issue
2) Disable forwarding of Dolby Digital audio and lose my 5.1 audio as a result or
3) Replace my receiver to one with with a built-in HDMI switch and remove the TV from the audio equation entirely.

Disclaimer: I should say that I really don't think it's my audio system--I have a pair of Astro A40's with mixamp that have had the problem occur when connected to the TV in place of the audio system.

My long term plan is #3. In the short term, probably #1. I don't mind dealing with it personally, but it's actually quite embarrassing when guests are over for a movie or TV premieres / finales--and honestly, I think it looks bad on Vizio too.

Hmm... I have mine connected with optical output to my receiver, and have never noticed any lip sync problems. From a signal processing standpoint, forwarding the Dolby Digital audio stream from the HDMI port to the optical port is a fairly trivial task. There is no transcoding of the signal necessary, it just forwards the Dolby bitstream from the input transport stream in the HDMI signal to the optical port.

I have a TiVo Premier Q cable DVR box. I also have an XBMC HTPC, but it has an older video card without embedded HDMI audio, so I'm using the stereo output on the HTPC to the TV set, and in that configuration the TV actually encodes the analog stereo audio to PCM digital and forwards it out the optical port. THIS takes more processing power than forwarding the Dolby Digital signal, and I never see this audio out of sync either.

I have no answer to offer, however, regarding lip sync issues. If you switch the TV output to PCM mode, you will lose the 5.1.... but does it fix your lip sync problem, I wonder?
post #2829 of 3777
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Originally Posted by nelliottak View Post

Hmm... I have mine connected with optical output to my receiver, and have never noticed any lip sync problems. From a signal processing standpoint, forwarding the Dolby Digital audio stream from the HDMI port to the optical port is a fairly trivial task. There is no transcoding of the signal necessary, it just forwards the Dolby bitstream from the input transport stream in the HDMI signal to the optical port.

I have a TiVo Premier Q cable DVR box. I also have an XBMC HTPC, but it has an older video card without embedded HDMI audio, so I'm using the stereo output on the HTPC to the TV set, and in that configuration the TV actually encodes the analog stereo audio to PCM digital and forwards it out the optical port. THIS takes more processing power than forwarding the Dolby Digital signal, and I never see this audio out of sync either.

I have no answer to offer, however, regarding lip sync issues. If you switch the TV output to PCM mode, you will lose the 5.1.... but does it fix your lip sync problem, I wonder?

Switching to PCM mode does seem to resolve the lipsync issue--but like you said, I lose 5.1, which is a bummer. Alternatively, if I leave the TV on Dolby Digital mode, but watch content with non-Dolby Digital audio, lip sync issues don't seem to occur then either.

This is actually the second E601-A3 we've had (our first set fell into the technical bulletin issue), but both have had this same issue. At first, I actually really thought this was related to my HTPC running Windows Media Center, but after noticing this also happening on the PS3, I realized it wasn't the HTPC.
post #2830 of 3777
After the update my TV would not turn on properly -
I used the same universal remote I have had for years.
Macro worked perfectly to turn everything on before the update but after I kept getting the "no signal" message.
Everything was on and set up properly but no picture or sound.
Some playing around determined that restarting my receiver cured it every time w no other changes?
I then tried a manual start up by starting with the Tv , then cable then receiver and it worked?
Not sure what was going on but I reset Macro to turn everything on in the same order and now it seems fine.
weird though..
post #2831 of 3777
I've had mine for 7 months now. I must have been lucky because I have not had a single issue with this set. No lip-sync problems or screen blackouts at all. I do have a small amount of backlight bleed, but it is minimal. I'm very pleased with this set. It is on firmware 2.0.21. I would buy another one.smile.gif
post #2832 of 3777
Hi guys, I found your awesome forum and had to join, nothing better than a well traveled forum like this one. I bought two Vizio E series TV's this week, I got a 47" from Amazon for $598 and the 60" refurbed from Walmart today for $814 including the 4 year protection plan for it. I have to say going from my SONY 3LCD (that I love(d) to these makes a HUGE difference. I am loving all the apps and the picture quality is awesome (to me). I am watching the Office right now and it looks like Michael and Dwight are walking right in front of me. My questions to you are simple, and I will continue searching all 90+ pages of this thread to see if I can find the answer as well.

I bought my Vizio 5.1 sound bar too, is this going to sync perfectly with my tv? Meaning my tv remote controls the volume etc...... Also I have ATT Uverse and am curious what everyone does for remotes, I have three including surround sound. If there an easy/cost effective way to combine them all? I have it currently sitting on the stand I used for my SONY, when I hang it with my sound bar, what will I do with all the wires? What will I do with the cable box?

I really appreciate you guys helping out, and I look forward to contributing on here as I am definitely going to be a long term Vizio customer.
post #2833 of 3777
I have had this TV since December and have always had lip sync issues. Before the .15 FW, after .15, and after the recent FW update. My setup is as simple as it can be. I just have a Tivo Premier XL4 hooked up to HDMI1 and that's it. No receiver, no sound bar, nothing.

I read about the workaround of setting the Tivo audio to LPCM rather than Dolby Digital. I just made the change to try this to see if it fixes it. Since I only use the speakers built into the TV, will I notice any difference in audio quality from switching from Dolby Digital to LPCM?

Thanks.
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How do you delete a post on this forum?
Edited by Larry Vogel - 7/27/13 at 11:21am
post #2835 of 3777
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Originally Posted by rongotti View Post

Hi guys, I found your awesome forum and had to join, nothing better than a well traveled forum like this one. I bought two Vizio E series TV's this week, I got a 47" from Amazon for $598 and the 60" refurbed from Walmart today for $814 including the 4 year protection plan for it. I have to say going from my SONY 3LCD (that I love(d) to these makes a HUGE difference. I am loving all the apps and the picture quality is awesome (to me). I am watching the Office right now and it looks like Michael and Dwight are walking right in front of me. My questions to you are simple, and I will continue searching all 90+ pages of this thread to see if I can find the answer as well.

I bought my Vizio 5.1 sound bar too, is this going to sync perfectly with my tv? Meaning my tv remote controls the volume etc...... Also I have ATT Uverse and am curious what everyone does for remotes, I have three including surround sound. If there an easy/cost effective way to combine them all? I have it currently sitting on the stand I used for my SONY, when I hang it with my sound bar, what will I do with all the wires? What will I do with the cable box?

I really appreciate you guys helping out, and I look forward to contributing on here as I am definitely going to be a long term Vizio customer.

Ewww...to my ears, the built in speakers are only slightly better than listening to audio on my cell phone's speakers.

I started out with a Vizio 2.1 soundbar with wireless sub, and it improved greatly over the built-ins...but I really wanted surround sound. I returned the Viz soundbar to Costco (love their return policy) and ordered a Yamaha VHT 397 system from Amazon (link here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007PU2X76/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). This system was very highly rated despite the relatively low purchase price (when I purchased it in March it was going for $250!), and I couldn't be more pleased. Audiophiles may turn their noses up at it, but for me the sound is awesome, and to sweeten the deal it's ARC compatible so I can control it through my Vizio TV. At first I had some issues with setting up ARC, but since the recent Vizio firmware update ARC functions flawlessly.

I notice Amazon is asking more for it now ($499), so there may be better choices out there in this price range. I'm really glad I got it when the price was lower!
post #2836 of 3777
I'd like to know more about people's experience with a refurb unit from Walmart. It's apparently refurbished by Vizio and is selling for $698 with free shipping, but I've read some complaints regarding improperly packaged TVs being broken during shipping.

Also, does Square Trade sell warranties for refurb TVs?

Thanks!
post #2837 of 3777
I cannot complain about the way my TV arrived from Walmart. I did purchase the 4 year protection plan for it though as a precaution. So far so good! I can say that I prefer watching it in vivid mode as opposed to standard or movie, they both seem dark, I love the bright picture in vivid.

Actually my tv was not supposed to arrive until Wed but it shows up last Friday, that is super cool it came so early.
Edited by rongotti - 7/28/13 at 12:01am
post #2838 of 3777
Haven't posted in ages, but I've followed this thread and decided to pull the trigger when Newegg had a refub on sale for $699 shipped. Since they don't charge taxes, yet, this was an awesome deal. The first set arrived with a crack in the screen. The return process was flawless and the second one arrived a few days later. It's a WAP set, that self updated to 2.0.21 last night. So far no problems. Still tweaking the set to my liking using the Disney WOW Bluray. I plan on adding a Sonos Playbar to the system at some point.

Thanks for all of the useful information!
post #2839 of 3777
Hi guys,

Has anyone here had any experience with the Vizio E650i (65inch) version of this TV?

Although I am relatively satisfied with my e601i...there is definitely some slight screen uniformity and light bleed that I wish could be better. The 65inch is direct LED (not edge-lit) so I imagine the picture quality is probably a little bit better as well? Plus it's 5inches bigger with possibly better picture quality for only $300!

Any thoughts or experience?

Thanks!
post #2840 of 3777
Hello all - just purchased this set to replace my XVT553SV, and while I love the picture quality, I'm a little confused - is the remote universal? My old remote, which looks like previous generation to this one, controlled my DirecTV and BD player, but unless I'm missing something, this remote looks like a unitasker.
post #2841 of 3777
What methods are you guys using to access HBO GO? In my ideal world there is an app for this, but I'm not too hopeful that this will ever happen.
post #2842 of 3777
Just realized you can download the Yahoo Fantasy Football app to the TV!! Psyched for the season to start.

Curious to see how it works during the games (i.e. if it gives you updates on the fly or will you have to go into the app each time to get info)
post #2843 of 3777
I used this last year and you have to go into it every time to get the information. You don't get it automatically. It's still a cool app though.
post #2844 of 3777
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Originally Posted by JeffKinslow View Post

Had my Vizio for 90 days now (serial # 41) and in the past week or two I have been noticing clouding and pixelation (the best work I can use to describe, see photos) during black/dark scenes.

Contacted Vizio and sent them these pics as well, and they are sending me a new unit in 10-14 business day. Very easy to work with and they were very friendly. Glad they made it an easy process.


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Photos taken during Dark Knight Rises.
Just wanted to thank you for sharing your info.Called vizio today and they are sending me a replacement.Thanks a Million.
post #2845 of 3777
Man I was really considering buying on of these units but the lipsync on DD5.1 is a major bummer. Ugh, there is no perfect tv. As of right now I would be running optical out from tv to receiver so I would probably get the same lag. Whole reason I wanted this one in the first place was the reported low input lag.
Edited by bradsh - 8/1/13 at 8:51am
post #2846 of 3777
I really love this TV, but I have two problems with it: 1) When you first turn the set on, if you don't adjust the volume, input, etc. within the first 5 seconds or so, you can't do it for upwards of 5 minutes. 2) Occasionally we suddenly get a constant high pitch tone, which only goes away if we unplug the set, and plug it back in. We are connected to the internet, and have the 2.0.21 update. Serial # 47LFTRNWAN4724321. Anyone else experience these issues?
post #2847 of 3777
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Originally Posted by bovineyard View Post

1) When you first turn the set on, if you don't adjust the volume, input, etc. within the first 5 seconds or so, you can't do it for upwards of 5 minutes.

2) Occasionally we suddenly get a constant high pitch tone, which only goes away if we unplug the set, and plug it back in.
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Both of those issues are not normal and need to be remedied.

Also, your set (47LFTRNWAN4724321) falls within the SN range of Vizio's Special Bulletin and you could possibly qualify for a replacement, or at the very least, for a repairman to do in-house repair/replacement of defective components (at the discretion of Vizio).

I suggest calling Vizio's Technical Support and let them know your concerns:

PHONE: (877) 698-4946 (1-877-MY-VIZIO)
Hours of Operation:
Mon-Fri: 6am-9pm PST
Sat-Sun: 8am-4pm PST


You'll find they answer the phone quickly, speak good English, and are on your side when it comes to the best way to deal with your situation.

Let us know what happens....

Gene smile.gif
post #2848 of 3777
Thanks!
post #2849 of 3777
Little heads up warning (pun intended) for ya'll. Last night we were issued a flash flood warning out here in hillbilly land. Well I had what I thought was a great weather app installed "WEATHER 4 US". It was the only one that had radar which I like. However when we turned the TV on for Saturday cartoons about a minute in a warning siren goes off and the TV shuts off. Weird and it happens three times. So I call up Vizio and it turns out it was the app (nice to get someone quick, I can understand, and knows what to do). So I uninstalled it and all is well so far. I'm guessing if you're watching TV and some weather warning is issued, it breaks in to tell you, which would be nice in tornado alley...but...appears to be some faulty programming. Anyway I hope they fix it someday. If you have it you might consider deleting it for now.
post #2850 of 3777
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Originally Posted by saltwatersul View Post


Just wanted to thank you for sharing your info.Called vizio today and they are sending me a replacement.Thanks a Million.

I see that pixelization as well but only when watching non HD Amazon video, I thought it was because it was non HD.
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