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post #3031 of 3777
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Originally Posted by jwc13ac View Post


Question! I do a lot of gaming and motion is great, But one weird thing I noticed. A game called bit.trip runner moves side scrolls at a steady place, for some reason it blurs the characters. Is this a sharpness issue? I haven't noticed in other games yet, but it looks almost like a 3d movie without the glasses.

If anyone has seen this on other games and has a fix I'd appreciate it!

It is the inherent motion blur in LCD.  Watching something like ESPN or CNN with a ticker and you will see the text blur there as well.

post #3032 of 3777
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

I'm watching TV OTA using an antenna. I've seen a row or two of flashing lines/pixels at the top on a few occasions, like when the newscast jumps to a remote feed. I believe it has to do with overscan and should be fixable using the screen size/position. However, I have not seen it in normal programming, so I haven't changed any settings yet.

It is most likely the same thing that you see on remote feeds. It is data that is transmitted in the blanking interval and should not be visible on a consumer digital set. I see it on some transmissions carried by Comcast. If it bothers you, adjust the picture size.
post #3033 of 3777
does "game mode" really do anything when playing games?
post #3034 of 3777
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Originally Posted by guitarguy316 View Post

does "game mode" really do anything when playing games?

100% yes. I was playing that Bit.trip runner and input lag was AWFUL. I switched on game mode and poof! It was perfect.

What is weird is that I had all the motion processing set off, so I'm not exactly sure what it did, but it got rid of input lag noticeably.

I actually keep it on all the time, is there benefit to keeping game mode off? Keeping in mind I don't like the soap opera effect from motion smoothing.
post #3035 of 3777
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Originally Posted by jwc13ac View Post

100% yes. I was playing that Bit.trip runner and input lag was AWFUL. I switched on game mode and poof! It was perfect.

What is weird is that I had all the motion processing set off, so I'm not exactly sure what it did, but it got rid of input lag noticeably.

I actually keep it on all the time, is there benefit to keeping game mode off? Keeping in mind I don't like the soap opera effect from motion smoothing.

I have the 360 going into its own HDMI port and keep it on. Looks great.

May seem obvious, be be sure your console is set to display 1080p, I forgot that step when I set mine up and could not figure out why it looked bad. Thought I'd had it set at auto.
post #3036 of 3777
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Originally Posted by dsayed View Post

It is most likely the same thing that you see on remote feeds. It is data that is transmitted in the blanking interval and should not be visible on a consumer digital set. I see it on some transmissions carried by Comcast. If it bothers you, adjust the picture size.

Thanks! My message was intended as a reply to an earlier post. I'm perfectly happy with the size settings on my TV.
post #3037 of 3777
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Originally Posted by verismo View Post

I see, well why is standby bad then? It uses >1kw/h, is that really worse than stressing the cpu / internals every morning by turning it on and off?

It'll be a lot more convenient for me to leave it on standby when not in use rather than turning it off, so i'm asking if it's going to shorten the tv's life span by a lot.

bump, wondering if i need to turn off the tv every night with the remote
post #3038 of 3777
If you're not watching the TV, turn it off with the remote (or the panel button).
post #3039 of 3777
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Originally Posted by verismo View Post

hi, our family uses this tv extensively, around 7 hours+ a day.

I was just wondering if it was worth it to turn the tv off every night with the remote, and turning it back on every morning

will putting it on standby 24/7 when not in use instead of turning it off affect the tv negatively?

What do you consider "Standby"? When you turn it "Off" with the remote, THAT is standby. When you turn it off it still uses power (about 1 watt) to retain settings & keep time, check for updates etc. If your idea of standby is just turning off the cable box then the tv is still on. It will eventually turn itself off when it doesn't see a signal after a few minutes which is standby which is the same as turning it off. the only way to turn it completely off meaning 0.00 watts is to unplug it
post #3040 of 3777
Is anyone else here even remotely excited about what this year's Black Friday offerings might bring. I know that Black Friday isn't for everyone but last year, with limited funds and a determination to replace a 43" Sony rear projection TV that just wouldn't die, I braved the lines at Walmart and scored my E601-A3 for $668.00 ( yes, the price was supposed to be $688.00 but there was a computer glitch and a CSM did a price override and put in the wrong amount). I still consider this to be one of the best electronics purchases I have ever made. This year, the funds are allotted and I have a need to replace an even older TV in our bedroom. The only question is what will this year's offerings bring.
post #3041 of 3777
I've noticed that the E601-A3 is no longer listed on Vizio's website. The M series is nice but I'm not interested in 3D. Since this model came out in Oct. of last year I'm wondering if they are coming out with a newer model to replace it.
post #3042 of 3777
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Originally Posted by tjdean View Post

I've noticed that the E601-A3 is no longer listed on Vizio's website. The M series is nice but I'm not interested in 3D. Since this model came out in Oct. of last year I'm wondering if they are coming out with a newer model to replace it.

??

http://store.vizio.com/e601ia3.html

post #3043 of 3777
I think I may have posted before about what to me is a critical lack of functionality in the Vizio Amazon streaming app that puts Amazon Prime customers at a disadvantage (Amazon Prime costs 79 bucks a year, and give unlimited streaming of thousands of movies and tv shows from their libaray, along with free -day shipping on orders). Specifically, the Vizio app doesn't allow the user to view their "watch list", which is sort of like the Netflix instant queue (recently renamed "my list"). This only affects those of us who subscribe to Amazon's Prime service and get free streaming...regular Amazon customers get to see a list movies etc that they've purchased or rented.

So...I wrote to Vizio to ask them about this, and I got back this canned response. Basically, thanks for your input, your opinions are valuable, now shut up and leave us alone. I find myself wishing they'd just be honest and say something like "we're not willing to fix this now or maybe ever, so you're out of luck."

Note under the customer service rep's signature is the tag line: VIZIO -The Home of Entertainment Freedom for All.

Other smart TV's (e.g., Samsung) do have this functionality.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr......mad.gif

Here's the response and my original inquiry:



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Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for your recent inquiry with VIZIO. I would be more than happy to help you with your concern. Here at VIZIO we do offer best in class technical support. We do not have information on any upcoming updates at this time.

Vizio greatly appreciates all of the useful suggestions you have made in ways to improve our product. I will pass this information along to our product management team to ensure that all possibilities are explored when options for enhancement are considered to make our products even better. Again, thank you for taking the time to provide us with your feedback.

If you need any additional assistance feel free to contact VIZIO at 1-877-878-4946 or chat with us at chat.vizio.com

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Comment: RE: Amazon streaming app on Vizio Smart TV's does not allow access to customer's Amazon Prime watch list.

Hi...I own 2 Vizio Smart TV's, and I love them except for one big thing: The Vizio Amazon streaming app does not provide access to my Amazon Prime watch list.

This means every time I want to watch something from Amazon Prime streaming on my Vizio TV, I have to go in and browse the entire library to find the video I want, rather than just go to my watch list where I've already placed them. Honestly, it's such a hassle to do this that I end up watching something on Netflix instead and just not using my Prime streaming service.

The current Vizio Amazon app is so difficult to navigate for Prime streaming that it's in effect useless. Any chance you can put adding this functionality on a fast track with your developers? Please? Thanks much! --LV
post #3044 of 3777
I'm thinking about picking one of these up for gaming. I would appreciate some thoughts on the tv from my fellow gamers in this thread. The display lag database indicates the input lag is low, but besides that, how does this set perform?
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Anymore setting suggestions out there besides the ones we've seen posted all ready ? thanks in advance

these are my current settings

Picture Mode - Vivid
Back light -85
Brightness - 55
Contrast - 80
Color - 65
Tint - 10
Sharpness - 8

Color temp. - Custom
Red gain - 125
Green gain - 128
Blue gain - 128
Red Offset - 128
Green offset - 128
Blue offset - 128

Advanced Picture Settings -
SME - medium
RCM - precision
Noise Reduction - low
MPEG NR - low
Color Enhancement - rich
Adaptive Luma - extend
Film Mode - Auto
Back light control - DCR
Ambient Light Sensor - medium
post #3046 of 3777
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Originally Posted by GrizzlyAnimal View Post

Anymore setting suggestions out there besides the ones we've seen posted all ready ? thanks in advance
these are my current settings
Picture Mode - Vivid
Ambient Light Sensor - medium
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I'd suggest two things Grizzly:

1) Get out of Vivid Picture Mode and use either Custom or Standard for your personal settings.
2) If you do nothing else, turn your Ambient Light Sensor to OFF.

Begin by turning your Ambient Light Sensor OFF and see if it makes a difference (it sure did on my set).

You've apparently already perused mine as well as other suggested settings within this thread, so pick the ones that look best to you since it would appear that one size doesn't fit all...so what might look good on one set may not look as good on another (for technical reasons).

Gene smile.gif
post #3047 of 3777
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Originally Posted by iautotron View Post

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I'd suggest two things Grizzly:

1) Get out of Vivid Picture Mode and use either Custom or Standard for your personal settings.
2) If you do nothing else, turn your Ambient Light Sensor to OFF.

Begin by turning your Ambient Light Sensor OFF and see if it makes a difference (it sure did on my set).

You've apparently already perused mine as well as other suggested settings within this thread, so pick the ones that look best to you since it would appear that one size doesn't fit all...so what might look good on one set may not look as good on another (for technical reasons).

Gene smile.gif

ok gene appreciate the suggestions..
post #3048 of 3777
Hey guys, I just got this TV, loving it so far, but for one issue I was curious if other people are having: Game mode keeps switching itself off.

I have a PC hooked up via HDMI to a Yamaha receiver, and that receiver to HDMI 1 on the TV. With Game Mode on, it works well, but with it off there is noticeable mouse lag. It reproducibly happens when I switch from HDMI 1 to OTA TV, then turn the TV off, then on again, and back to HDMI 1. The mouse lag will clearly be back. However when I go to "menu" -> "settings", game mode still says "On". However when I flip it to "off", there is no mode change that happens (screen doesn't blank out for a split second and come back), then when I flip it back "on", there's a mode change, and the lag is gone. I interpret this as the TV reverts the game mode to off, but somehow still thinks it's "on".

Has anyone else experienced / reproduced this problem? My TV software version is 2.0.25.

Thanks!
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post #3050 of 3777
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Originally Posted by virmagnus View Post

Hey guys, I just got this TV, loving it so far, but for one issue I was curious if other people are having: Game mode keeps switching itself off.

I have a PC hooked up via HDMI to a Yamaha receiver, and that receiver to HDMI 1 on the TV. With Game Mode on, it works well, but with it off there is noticeable mouse lag. It reproducibly happens when I switch from HDMI 1 to OTA TV, then turn the TV off, then on again, and back to HDMI 1. The mouse lag will clearly be back. However when I go to "menu" -> "settings", game mode still says "On". However when I flip it to "off", there is no mode change that happens (screen doesn't blank out for a split second and come back), then when I flip it back "on", there's a mode change, and the lag is gone. I interpret this as the TV reverts the game mode to off, but somehow still thinks it's "on".

Has anyone else experienced / reproduced this problem? My TV software version is 2.0.25.

Thanks!

Yep same here. I doubt many people have even noticed this. This and the loud popping from the analog outs when I turn the TV on and off suck, but not gamebreakers. A firmware update caused these problens, so I'm just hoping another update fixes them some day.
post #3051 of 3777
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Originally Posted by indept View Post

What do you consider "Standby"? When you turn it "Off" with the remote, THAT is standby. When you turn it off it still uses power (about 1 watt) to retain settings & keep time, check for updates etc. If your idea of standby is just turning off the cable box then the tv is still on. It will eventually turn itself off when it doesn't see a signal after a few minutes which is standby which is the same as turning it off. the only way to turn it completely off meaning 0.00 watts is to unplug it

hey thanks, sorry for the late reply, avs didn't notify me of an update frown.gif

Lets say i have a htpc connected to the tv via hdmi
so when it's in "standby" mode can i turn on the TV by pressing any key on the keyboard or must i press the power button?



Basically what i'm trying to achieve is to avoid pressing the power button at all so its more convenient.
post #3052 of 3777
I'm a little surprised the price is still the same as it was a year ago and the model has not been superseded by a new one.

Sure glad I did not wait for a price drop. TV has its quirks, but its been great since I got it in January.
post #3053 of 3777
This TV is great except I got one of the bad apples and Vizio is not helping. I got mine last Black Friday 2012 and last month it went black. I searched for a remedy and found that it was a defect, ok no problem I thought.
I called Vizio and they actually have a special dept. for this issue. They gave me two options fix it or get a brand new replacement, I thought it was a no brainer to just get a new one so I opted for that.
I was told 7-10 days I should have the new set. Well this was on Oct 9th and as of today Nov 1st I am still waiting.

After calls to Vizio and Manna I received a response from Vizio this morning and they told me Manna returned the TV back and I need to call and start this process all over so they can send a replacement. mad.gif

In the mean time I am using a 42" 6 yr old Sony LCD that keeps chugging along. Hopefully I get the new replacement set before Thanksgiving or even Christmas.

Any of you have issues with Vizio and Manna?
post #3054 of 3777
Just a suggestion, if your panel was good, meaning good picture, no flashlightng etc, you may want to just have them fix it. They will replace 1 board & all will be good. I have an E701I and the panel developed bad pixels so the sent a new one and it is good except I found 1 pixel in upper left corner that is bad, it seems that they lasered it at the factory ( which I heard is common with manufacturers to do for stuck pixels). I can live with this since otherwise the picture is great.

So point is, why take a chance on getting a worse panel when a new video board will fix the issue like new.
post #3055 of 3777
Does anyone know how to roll back the firmware version? One of the latest ones introduced my problems, and I had no problems previously.
post #3056 of 3777
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Originally Posted by scandalous View Post

This TV is great except I got one of the bad apples and Vizio is not helping. I got mine last Black Friday 2012 and last month it went black. I searched for a remedy and found that it was a defect, ok no problem I thought.
I called Vizio and they actually have a special dept. for this issue. They gave me two options fix it or get a brand new replacement, I thought it was a no brainer to just get a new one so I opted for that.
I was told 7-10 days I should have the new set. Well this was on Oct 9th and as of today Nov 1st I am still waiting.

After calls to Vizio and Manna I received a response from Vizio this morning and they told me Manna returned the TV back and I need to call and start this process all over so they can send a replacement. mad.gif

In the mean time I am using a 42" 6 yr old Sony LCD that keeps chugging along. Hopefully I get the new replacement set before Thanksgiving or even Christmas.

Any of you have issues with Vizio and Manna?

We replaced ours 3 times with Manna as the shipper. No problems at all...fast and smooth. Hope it works out for you!
post #3057 of 3777
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Originally Posted by BATom View Post

Anyone had a hardware failure on an E601-A3 set purchased new after July 1? If so, how serious?

I'm just waiting for the next sale to pick one up and am trying to reassure myself that the hardware issues have been pretty much cleaned up at this point. Not really concerned about the small stuff like light bleeding or flashlighting or dead pixels but would really like to avoid buying a product that still has any unresolved design or manufacturing issues. Thanks!

Looks like Amazon just dropped the price on the E601i-A3 to $899 so now I'm very tempted to pick one up. Haven't gotten any response yet to whether anyone's had a failure on a set purchased after July. Anyone have any new info before I pull the trigger?

Thanks!
post #3058 of 3777
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Originally Posted by BATom View Post

Looks like Amazon just dropped the price on the E601i-A3 to $899 so now I'm very tempted to pick one up. Haven't gotten any response yet to whether anyone's had a failure on a set purchased after July. Anyone have any new info before I pull the trigger?

Thanks!

Walmart has refurbished models for $799.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/24516217?adid=1500000000000038614500&veh=eml&sent_time=1383338098395&campaign_id=pb_00100
post #3059 of 3777
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Originally Posted by indept View Post

Just a suggestion, if your panel was good, meaning good picture, no flashlightng etc, you may want to just have them fix it. They will replace 1 board & all will be good. I have an E701I and the panel developed bad pixels so the sent a new one and it is good except I found 1 pixel in upper left corner that is bad, it seems that they lasered it at the factory ( which I heard is common with manufacturers to do for stuck pixels). I can live with this since otherwise the picture is great.

So point is, why take a chance on getting a worse panel when a new video board will fix the issue like new.

My thoughts were actually the other way around. While I would be getting a new video board everything else is about a year old. Given the option I rather get a new TV which would obviously also come with a new video board. At the same time I did have some issues before it went black, it just eased my mind knowing it's a new set.
post #3060 of 3777
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Originally Posted by BATom View Post

Looks like Amazon just dropped the price on the E601i-A3 to $899 so now I'm very tempted to pick one up. Haven't gotten any response yet to whether anyone's had a failure on a set purchased after July. Anyone have any new info before I pull the trigger?

Thanks!
I was thinking of doing the same. What is the "usual" price?
Also, Im new to this thread. Can someone please give me a brief summary of known issues, if any, with the 60e601a3?
Thanks.
Edited by Bond 007 - 11/2/13 at 5:39am
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