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post #3061 of 3777
I see some complaints about audio sync. Is the audio before the video or after? Will an AVR with delay settings compensate for this issue? Is the delay noticeable with all sources or just OTA and built in apps? Some have mentioned that a FW update has fixed it. What are the chances of someone getting a tv now with this issue?

It looks like they have taken care of the dreaded "black screen" issue that was occuring around the model roll out. Would that be a fair assumption?
post #3062 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Brett Day View Post

I jpurchased the E601i-A3 from Best Buy for $899 a few weeks ago. I will admit, I was a bit apprehensive because I have never owned a Vizio before, but I have to say that I have been really impressed with the TV thus far. The picture is great, (just have it calibrated by eye so far) I have a calibration appointment set up for the 28th (Free ISF calibration through best buy for being a premier reward zone member). I have not had any issues with lip syncing yet (at least not that I have noticed). I have just been surprised with just how good this TV is. I have posted a review of it on Epinions. I do not want to post the review here because it is long (over 2500 words) but have included the link. I hope it can help others make the decision to take the plunge on this TV. Looking forward to becoming involved in this community.

All the best,
Brett
Nice review. Thanks.
post #3063 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I see some complaints about audio sync. Is the audio before the video or after? Will an AVR with delay settings compensate for this issue? Is the delay noticeable with all sources or just OTA and built in apps? Some have mentioned that a FW update has fixed it. What are the chances of someone getting a tv now with this issue?

It looks like they have taken care of the dreaded "black screen" issue that was occuring around the model roll out. Would that be a fair assumption?

With all my devices going into the AVR and AVR going to TV I have NO lag ever.

The one time I put the cable box direct to the TV I noticed lag a bit. Doubt it was a weird coincidence! I always use the AVR anyway.
post #3064 of 3777
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Originally Posted by jwc13ac View Post

With all my devices going into the AVR and AVR going to TV I have NO lag ever.

The one time I put the cable box direct to the TV I noticed lag a bit. Doubt it was a weird coincidence! I always use the AVR anyway.
Thanks. Good to know. I also use an AVR.
post #3065 of 3777
Is there a there a way to keep motion smoothing on and input lag low?

In certain games the ghosting is bad and hurts my eyes, and motion smoothing solves this, but when game mode goes off the lag comes like crazy.

Any tips on this would help! I'd even accept tips that may reduce but not eliminate.
post #3066 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I was thinking of doing the same. What is the "usual" price?
Also, Im new to this thread. Can someone please give me a brief summary of known issues, if any, with the 60e601a3?
Thanks.
Some people are experiencing lip sync issues with some content, units made in 2012 tend to fail, some people have a popping sound when turning it on or off. That's all I can think of.

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Originally Posted by adminroot View Post

Does anyone know how to roll back the firmware version? One of the latest ones introduced my problems, and I had no problems previously.
No.

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Originally Posted by verismo View Post

hey thanks, sorry for the late reply, avs didn't notify me of an update frown.gif

Lets say i have a htpc connected to the tv via hdmi
so when it's in "standby" mode can i turn on the TV by pressing any key on the keyboard or must i press the power button?



Basically what i'm trying to achieve is to avoid pressing the power button at all so its more convenient.
As far as I know, standby is off. It also has a smart feature where if there is no signal for x minutes it turns off. You could run a screen saver.


SC
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post #3068 of 3777
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Black Friday Holiday Deal
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--->>>Vizio 70-inch, Smart LED TV for just $998<<<---

Retailers traditionally offer deep discounts on the day after Thanksgiving (Nov. 29), better known as Black Friday, the unofficial start of the holiday shopping season. Sam's Club, which requires a $45 annual membership, actually will hold a 'Holiday VIP Event' sale at the beginning of Black Friday week -- Sunday, November 24, from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. local time.

This same television is currently being sold at Amazon for $1600 and was called the "best value among 70-inch LED TVs" by Cnet.


THE ANNOUNCEMENT

THE AD

Gene smile.gif
Groupon offers deal on Sam’s Club membership

Just in time for holiday shopping, Groupon is offering a generous deal on a Sam’s Club membership, bringing down the cost to less than $5 after freebies.

You’ll pay $45 for the membership, which is the standard price for a primary membership plus a complimentary household member card.

MORE


In a Nutshell:
One-year membership and $20 gift card, vouchers for rotisserie chicken, apple pie, scalloped potatoes, and $200 in savings offers.

Sam's Club (The Fine Print)

Why am I posting this?
I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of Sam's Club. In fact, in checking their locator, there is not a Sam's Club within 100 miles of where I live, but this seemed to be a pretty good deal for anyone considering purchasing the 60" E601i-A3 this thread is dedicated to and might want to upgrade to the 70" model for about the same list price we see at Best Buy and other retailers selling the 60" E601i-A3 for $999.00 (Amazon @ $998.00).
Gene smile.gif
Edited by iautotron - 11/10/13 at 7:42am
post #3069 of 3777
That is a great deal from Sam's Club on the 70" TV. The only correction regarding the event is that The Sam's Club Holiday VIP Event is for Sam's Plus Members only. People with Sam's standard membership are not invited to the event. You would need to spend the $55 to upgrade to the Plus membership but it might be worth it to pick up the 70" set for $998.
post #3070 of 3777
1 year later. thought i'd post up how things have been going.

Still not using the built in apps.

This weekend i finally mounted the tv on the wall. (only took a year. no big deal lol)

Can't seem to find a before pic, but here's an after:

Wall-mounted by jestermx6, on Flickr

forgive the cell phone pic quality in dim light.


Odd thing happened though, before doing this everything was working flawlessly.

After the wall mount/wire tuck, i turned off the receiver last night (everything is wired through the receiver, using it as an hdmi switch as well) and the audio/video switched off as it should. Then for some reason, with the receiver still off, the video came back on. I turned off the tv, xbox, and receiver. Then powered them all on like usual and now i get no video to the tv. Removed/reinserted all cables etc and still no fix. I'm goign to try a different HDMI cable today after work to see if maybe i got one that was bad out of the box. Kind of a bummber if its just the cable, since it wasn't exactly simple threading it through the wall.

As far as the TV though, i've had nothing but great things to say about it to anyone who's asked over the past year. Its given me zero issues since the initial firmware update, and i've gotten loads of screen time with it and not a single problem. *knock on wood*
post #3071 of 3777
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Originally Posted by jestermx6 View Post

Odd thing happened though, before doing this everything was working flawlessly.

After the wall mount/wire tuck, i turned off the receiver last night (everything is wired through the receiver, using it as an hdmi switch as well) and the audio/video switched off as it should. Then for some reason, with the receiver still off, the video came back on.
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There have been a couple of posts (perhaps even a few), including one by myself, with the topic of this TV inexplicably powering back on after being turned OFF using the remote's power button. In my case, there were three occasions sprinkled over the past six months or so when I would turn the TV off using the OFF button on the remote, walk out of the room, and a minute or two later hear audio from the TV after it turned itself back on and finding picture and audio activated as if I had turned it back on myself.

I tend to doubt that the steps you're taking to avoid future events will be effective since I think there's something "quirky" within the electronics of this particular TV that causes it to turn itself back on within a minute or two after being turned off by the user...not to the point of being a catastrophic failure affecting many users requiring any sort of a recall, but more of a slight perplexity and bewilderment as to why this happens at all to the few of us that it does.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

That being said, there's not much more about this set that I can find fault with....I'm still lovin' this TV.

Gene smile.gif
post #3072 of 3777
Walmart offering this set again for $688 on Black Friday

post #3073 of 3777
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Originally Posted by iautotron View Post

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Originally Posted by jestermx6 View Post

Odd thing happened though, before doing this everything was working flawlessly.

After the wall mount/wire tuck, i turned off the receiver last night (everything is wired through the receiver, using it as an hdmi switch as well) and the audio/video switched off as it should. Then for some reason, with the receiver still off, the video came back on.
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There have been a couple of posts (perhaps even a few), including one by myself, with the topic of this TV inexplicably powering back on after being turned OFF using the remote's power button. In my case, there were three occasions sprinkled over the past six months or so when I would turn the TV off using the OFF button on the remote, walk out of the room, and a minute or two later hear audio from the TV after it turned itself back on and finding picture and audio activated as if I had turned it back on myself.

I tend to doubt that the steps you're taking to avoid future events will be effective since I think there's something "quirky" within the electronics of this particular TV that causes it to turn itself back on within a minute or two after being turned off by the user...not to the point of being a catastrophic failure affecting many users requiring any sort of a recall, but more of a slight perplexity and bewilderment as to why this happens at all to the few of us that it does.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

That being said, there's not much more about this set that I can find fault with....I'm still lovin' this TV.

Gene smile.gif

thanks for the info. it actually turned out to be a faulty monoprice HDMI cable, and a firmware upgrade that had turned on HDMI passthrough when off.

my setup is as follows:
[INPUT]>[DEVICE]
GAME > WIi U
DVD > Xbox 360
BluRay > PS3
CABLE > SciAtl TWC Box
FM is the AVR FM player

First, i turned off the HDMI passthrough. That fixed the weirdness with the picture not working when the receiver was on, but working when the receiver was off.

Then I unplugged/plugged in the HDMI cable and was able to get the GAME and DVD inputs working. I could switch between them no problem. But if i'd switch to BluRay, FM, or CABLE i'd get no picture.

I plugged in another HDMI cable (not routed through the wall) and everything worked flawlessly.

After cursing and throwing things because i didnt bother testing the BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX SHIELDED CL2 RATED CABLE before running it through the wall. ripped out the bad cable, grabbed the fish tape, snaked the confirmed working one through the wall and re-mounted the tv. everything is working great now.

All in all, glad it wasn't the TV set or AVR that was the problem. a 7 dollar cable isn't a big deal compared to an $800 tv or a ...idk how much i spent on the AVR actually.

So i'm back to being super happy with this TV set and after putting my settings back in (i also reset the TV just in case during the troubleshooting process) i played a quick mission in borderlands, then watched HP and the Goblet of Fire with the wife. smile.gif
post #3074 of 3777
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Originally Posted by GrizzlyAnimal View Post

Walmart offering this set again for $688 on Black Friday


Surprised to see this TV holding its value for over a year. It was on sale last BF for the same price ($688). I was expecting the prices to go down.
post #3075 of 3777
HDMi-CEC issue.

I picked up this TV a couple of weeks ago. I'm using the HDMI-CEC between my Dish Hopper, Sony STR-DH540 AVR, and Vizio TV. When I turn the TV off, all components shut off like they are supposed to. But about 2 minute later, the AVR comes back on. I read several posts about the TV coming back on. The TV stays off, just the AVR comes back on. Has anyone else had that happen?

Thanks
post #3076 of 3777
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

Surprised to see this TV holding its value for over a year. It was on sale last BF for the same price ($688). I was expecting the prices to go down.

It is a little bit of a disappointment. Walmart also has the Vizio 70" Smart LED for $998 and a Samsung 55" Smart LED for $727. I am going to go for one of these three, I'm just not sure which one.
post #3077 of 3777
@ VISBAR...You're correct about this 60" Vizio TV being the same price as last year on black Friday at $688...but they were new TV's last year... these Vizio 60" TV's are called ("VIZIO DIRECT REFURBISHED TV's), they are selling now at $798 regular price at Walmart, be $110 cheaper on black Friday this year. Last year it was a new TV at $688 black Friday sale and regular price was $998 a better deal at $310 off last years regular price.

Nothing wrong with these refurbished 60" Vizio TV's..a few posters here brought them at Walmart and said they are almost new looking with no problems (yet). I figure those that were taken off the stores floors back in December 2012 that had bad chips just needed new chips installed (my opinion).

Not sure what the return policy is at Walmart 30,60 or 90 days..thats what a buyer should check out, also how long the Vizio factory warranty for a refurbished TV is.

I think I read somewhere Walmart will give a package deal... TV and 3 year service plan for a small amount more..good idea to get the service plan ( guess they mean warranty but used the words 'service plan'.

Just to say my 60'Vizio is going good as the I got it almost one year ago..and yes I do have one of those TV's in that bad serial range '#43', never had a problem not even sound and I had an old firmware version back in Nov 2012 (of course firmware been updated twice so far). As most know this serial #43 I have gets a two year factory warranty not just one year...so I have a tad over one year more to go...if I see a black screen I call for a new one no questions asked!

To me they are good TV's for the price.
post #3078 of 3777
Forgot to say folks...here's a tip..if you have a Chase credit card check out about buying top ticket items like a new TV, lap top etc..that Chase credit card starting November 19,2013 will add another one year warranty to the item for FREE.

I have a Chase Freedom card and they sent me this info over two months ago..starts 11/19/2013 great time to use it now.

Be something like a fancy American Express card that already does that one year extra warranty for free.

Have happy holidays all.
post #3079 of 3777
Internet2,
Are you sure the Vizio 60" Black Friday deal is a refurb? The details on Walmart's page for the deal don't say anything about it being refurbished. If it does turn out to be $688 for a new one I'm definitely going to pick one up. Now if I can just find a similar discount on a Denon X1000 to go with it I'll be all set for Christmas! smile.gif
post #3080 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Internet2 View Post

@ VISBAR...You're correct about this 60" Vizio TV being the same price as last year on black Friday at $688...but they were new TV's last year... these Vizio 60" TV's are called ("VIZIO DIRECT REFURBISHED TV's), they are selling now at $798 regular price at Walmart, be $110 cheaper on black Friday this year. Last year it was a new TV at $688 black Friday sale and regular price was $998 a better deal at $310 off last years regular price.

Nothing wrong with these refurbished 60" Vizio TV's..a few posters here brought them at Walmart and said they are almost new looking with no problems (yet). I figure those that were taken off the stores floors back in December 2012 that had bad chips just needed new chips installed (my opinion).

Not sure what the return policy is at Walmart 30,60 or 90 days..thats what a buyer should check out, also how long the Vizio factory warranty for a refurbished TV is.

I think I read somewhere Walmart will give a package deal... TV and 3 year service plan for a small amount more..good idea to get the service plan ( guess they mean warranty but used the words 'service plan'.

Just to say my 60'Vizio is going good as the I got it almost one year ago..and yes I do have one of those TV's in that bad serial range '#43', never had a problem not even sound and I had an old firmware version back in Nov 2012 (of course firmware been updated twice so far). As most know this serial #43 I have gets a two year factory warranty not just one year...so I have a tad over one year more to go...if I see a black screen I call for a new one no questions asked!

To me they are good TV's for the price.

Can you please cite where you obtained your information about the Vizio 60" LCD being refurbished. Walmart does sell refurbished Vizio 60" LCD TV's, but they also carry new Vizio 60" LCD TV's. Is the Vizio 70" for $998 doorbuster also refurbished? The Samsung 55" for $727? Edit: I just answered my own question. The Walmart Black Friday ad clearly says, "save $310".
Edited by bxb11 - 11/12/13 at 10:31pm
post #3081 of 3777
@bxb11...I saw this on the Walmart.com site under the listing for TV's (I don't get enough info from those tiny ads so I always look to the main site). There is only one 60 " Vizio TV listed at Walmart.com site and its for $799 right now as a refurbished TV...so I figure this is the one for BF sale going down to $688 0n 11/28. I didn't see no new Vizio 60 " TV listed on Walmart.com site.

Its possible Walmart can get a few dozen brand new Vizio TV's (that cost $998) just for BF and also hand out those guarantee cards for being out of stock in that one hour buying period.

If I was buying a 60" Vizio from Walmart on11/28...I would go there now and ask the sales people for the serial number of a refurbished unit and a new unit to make sure you get a new one on BF sales (if they are doing it with new TV's.)

As for the other two you asked about... don't know much about them.
post #3082 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Internet2 View Post

@bxb11...I saw this on the Walmart.com site under the listing for TV's (I don't get enough info from those tiny ads so I always look to the main site). There is only one 60 " Vizio TV listed at Walmart.com site and its for $799 right now as a refurbished TV...so I figure this is the one for BF sale going down to $688 0n 11/28. I didn't see no new Vizio 60 " TV listed on Walmart.com site.

Its possible Walmart can get a few dozen brand new Vizio TV's (that cost $998) just for BF and also hand out those guarantee cards for being out of stock in that one hour buying period.

If I was buying a 60" Vizio from Walmart on11/28...I would go there now and ask the sales people for the serial number of a refurbished unit and a new unit to make sure you get a new one on BF sales (if they are doing it with new TV's.)

As for the other two you asked about... don't know much about them.

The manager at my local Walmart told me the Black Friday special is for a brand-new new 60" Vizio TV, not the refurbished one. YMMV.
post #3083 of 3777

Does anyone know the input lag of the e601 WITHOUT gaming mode turned on?

post #3084 of 3777
i get lag sometimes without gaming mode on. but its inconsistent.
post #3085 of 3777
Some more info on the Walmart Black Friday version of the E601i-A3 which has the new model number E601i-A3E.

Here is the Walmart detail page for the TV: http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-E601I-A3E-60-1080p-120Hz-LED-HDTV/28805901

I found two different pages on Vizio.com for the E601i-A3 and E601i-A3E models. The two sets appear to be slightly different and the A3E version may be a slightly tweaked version of the original A3. The A3E page says "THIS ITEM COMING SOON".

Here are the two links:
http://store.vizio.com/e601ia3e.html (Walmart model number)
http://store.vizio.com/e601ia3.html (original model number)

Looking at the technical Specifications section of the two I found several minor differences. I included all I could find regardless of how trivial for completeness.

Differences which stand out to me: Apparently the A3E has no SRS TruSurround HD™ or DLNA, and a plain IR remote vs. 2-sided keyboard remote. The refresh rate listing was vague. It says 120hz with Smooth motion. Does that mean an effective 120hz when smooth motion is on or is it native 120hz + an additional smooth motion mode??? I can't tell.

Here's the whole list.

E601i-A3E vs. E601i-A3 Differing Line Items
3D: Line item missing vs.3D N/A

Refresh Rate: 120hz with smooth motion vs. 120hz

SRS TruSurround HD™ line item missing vs. SRS TruSurround HD™ YES

HDMI:2(side),2(down) vs. HDMI:4 (2 side, 2 down - HDCP, CEC, ARCx1)

Multimedia Support: DLNA line item missing vs. DLNA:yes

3D File Formats line item missing vs. 3D File Formats Supported:N/A

Smart Dimming line item missing vs. Smart Dimming:No

WiFi:802.11n single band 1x1 vs. WiFi:802.11n single band

Bluetooth line item missing vs. Bluetooth:N/A

PIP line item missing vs. PIP (Picture in Picture):No

Remote Control:IR Remote vs. Remote Control:Enhanced 2-sided remote with keyboard

Gross Weight: 72.75 lbs vs. 73.19 lbs

Packaging Dimensions:57.83”W x 35.71”H x 6.65”D vs. 57.91”W x 36.42”H x 7.05”D

Wallmount screw pitch missing vs. Screw Pitch:1mm

Power Consumption:90.8W vs. Power Consumption: 83.46W

http://store.vizio.com/e601ia3e.html
http://store.vizio.com/e601ia3.html
Edited by BATom - 11/13/13 at 11:09pm
post #3086 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Internet2 View Post

@bxb11...I saw this on the Walmart.com site under the listing for TV's (I don't get enough info from those tiny ads so I always look to the main site). There is only one 60 " Vizio TV listed at Walmart.com site and its for $799 right now as a refurbished TV...so I figure this is the one for BF sale going down to $688 0n 11/28. I didn't see no new Vizio 60 " TV listed on Walmart.com site.

Its possible Walmart can get a few dozen brand new Vizio TV's (that cost $998) just for BF and also hand out those guarantee cards for being out of stock in that one hour buying period.

If I was buying a 60" Vizio from Walmart on11/28...I would go there now and ask the sales people for the serial number of a refurbished unit and a new unit to make sure you get a new one on BF sales (if they are doing it with new TV's.)

As for the other two you asked about... don't know much about them.

No problem, Internet2. We are all trying to process this information on the fly and, as BATom posted, it seems to be much more complicated than either of us originally thought. It seems that Walmart may (I say may) have taken a small step backwards and had Vizio create a neutered version of the E601-A3 for Black Friday. Higher wattage, fewer HDMI ports and no remote keyboard, to name a few. I can't tell from the ad which one will be on sale. Also, the E601-A3 is a 1 hour guarantee item. which means that they will give vouchers to anyone standing in line between 6PM and 7PM, so no waiting in line for hours like last year. The plot thickens....
Edited by bxb11 - 11/13/13 at 6:20pm
post #3087 of 3777
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Originally Posted by Internet2 View Post

@ VISBAR...You're correct about this 60" Vizio TV being the same price as last year on black Friday at $688...but they were new TV's last year... these Vizio 60" TV's are called ("VIZIO DIRECT REFURBISHED TV's), they are selling now at $798 regular price at Walmart, be $110 cheaper on black Friday this year. Last year it was a new TV at $688 black Friday sale and regular price was $998 a better deal at $310 off last years regular price.

Nothing wrong with these refurbished 60" Vizio TV's..a few posters here brought them at Walmart and said they are almost new looking with no problems (yet). I figure those that were taken off the stores floors back in December 2012 that had bad chips just needed new chips installed (my opinion).

Not sure what the return policy is at Walmart 30,60 or 90 days..thats what a buyer should check out, also how long the Vizio factory warranty for a refurbished TV is.

I think I read somewhere Walmart will give a package deal... TV and 3 year service plan for a small amount more..good idea to get the service plan ( guess they mean warranty but used the words 'service plan'.

Just to say my 60'Vizio is going good as the I got it almost one year ago..and yes I do have one of those TV's in that bad serial range '#43', never had a problem not even sound and I had an old firmware version back in Nov 2012 (of course firmware been updated twice so far). As most know this serial #43 I have gets a two year factory warranty not just one year...so I have a tad over one year more to go...if I see a black screen I call for a new one no questions asked!

To me they are good TV's for the price.

I bought one of these refurb units a few months ago for $650 + 4 year warranty + tax. Apart from shipping in a plain box, the TV was brand new. They had a 90-day return policy on the unit.
post #3088 of 3777
Keep in mind, typicaly refurbs only have a 90 day warranty, not 1 year like a new set so you almost have to get an extended warranty to have any peace of mind.
post #3089 of 3777
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Originally Posted by indept View Post

Keep in mind, typicaly refurbs only have a 90 day warranty, not 1 year like a new set so you almost have to get an extended warranty to have any peace of mind.

Walmart has a Q&A page on their website for the Vizio E601i-A3E Black Friday deal. One of the questions asked was whether this was a new or refurbished TV and the answer was new. There are other interesting questions and answers as well. Have a look!

Here's the link:
http://answers.walmart.com/answers/1336/product/28805901/questions.htm?expandquestion=1406126
post #3090 of 3777
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Originally Posted by vizbar View Post

I bought one of these refurb units a few months ago for $650 + 4 year warranty + tax. Apart from shipping in a plain box, the TV was brand new. They had a 90-day return policy on the unit.

I assume that these refurbished units are the BSOD (Black Screen Of Death) units that Vizio replaced with new units, no questions asked. If that is indeed the case, those units typically failed in the first 90 days, so they are like new (after having the problematic board replaced).
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