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post #841 of 2576
12/9/12 at 3:57pm
That is a good question about why L-PCM. I plan to attach a sound bar or 5.1 receiver, so your question would need to be answered.

L-PCM by itself would not be limited to 2 channels,. I can't find anyplace on the TV that provides any information about the type of audio being received or rendered. Likewise I cannot find any reference to how the QIP4616 handles audio when you select L-PCM.
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post #842 of 2576
12/9/12 at 8:15pm
As someone who missed the black friday pricing ... The lip sync issue appears to be my biggest concern as I wait for another deal to come around.

1) Is the lip sync issue u are experiencing with, or without, a reciever? ie: does the tv natively suffer from lip sync over its own speakers? Wouldn't that be quite odd?

2) Does running everything to the vizio, and one audio out to the sound system solve the issue albiet with reduced audio quality?
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post #843 of 2576
12/9/12 at 8:37pm
I purchased 2 of these Vizo 60's, a sharp 70" 640 and finally a Samsung 60" 6100 series. (Yes my wife is still pissed off)Every singe one of them had issues ranging from lip sync, uniformity, DSE and flash lighting. The 6100 was by far the worst of the bunch, especially with uniformity and color accuracy. Both of the Vizios and the sharp suffered from dark spots in the corners. 4 tv's later I finally opened my eyes to a Panasonic plasma. Don't let the store displays fool you when compared to torch mode LED models. They are every bit as bright in your home under normal conditions. The colors, motion clarity and overall lifelike picture can not be matched in this sub $2k price range. I ended up with the Panasonic tcp60st50 for $1499 from amazon. In addition, the viewing angle is spectacular. The picture is the same at damn near 170 degrees off center. I have tried over and over again to find a flaw with no such luck. Anyone picky about picture quality should really look at plasma. It's not the ugly beast it used to be.
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Well thought I would take a chance on this unit. Waste of time. Feathering, synch isue, terrible sound, limited side view and the video quality is not up to a 55" Sony 520.
Bought it without seeing, not like me, but decided to take a chance based on the reviews and low price. Motion and overall picture quality is not good enough. Suppose I will look at a Sharp 640, Sony 645 or possibly a Samsung 6100.
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post #844 of 2576
12/9/12 at 9:30pm
Can anyone clarify what precisely "gaming mode" does? I've heard conflicting answers around the web.

Also, does this TV support 24 fps? There's an option on my set-top to enable it, but I'm not sure if I should.
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post #845 of 2576
12/9/12 at 9:36pm
Has anyone been Successful in getting the ARC to work? I have no sound from my onkyo rc160. I've tried every combo of options on the receiver and TV but still no returned audio for the VIA use age. My HDMI cable is up to date as well. I've got an optical cable ordered but itd be nice if it worked as advertised.
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post #846 of 2576
12/9/12 at 9:53pm
I do not believe that the 160 does ARC.
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post #847 of 2576
12/9/12 at 10:25pm
"Also, does this TV support 24 fps? There's an option on my set-top to enable it, but I'm not sure if I should."

Yes. Cnet's review of the e601i-a3 states:

"Video processing: The E601i-A3 acquitted itself well and even managed to outperform the M3D0KD in this category, primarily because it rendered 1080p/24 sources with the proper film cadence. When I watched the helicopter flyover from chapter 7 of "I Am Legend," for example, the E601i-A3 delivered the smooth but not soap-opera-like look of film, while the other Vizio, along with the Sharp and the U50, evinced the stuttering cadence indicative of 3:2 pulldown."
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post #848 of 2576
12/9/12 at 10:49pm
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I purchased 2 of these Vizo 60's, a sharp 70" 640 and finally a Samsung 60" 6100 series. (Yes my wife is still pissed off)Every singe one of them had issues ranging from lip sync, uniformity, DSE and flash lighting. The 6100 was by far the worst of the bunch, especially with uniformity and color accuracy. Both of the Vizios and the sharp suffered from dark spots in the corners. 4 tv's later I finally opened my eyes to a Panasonic plasma. Don't let the store displays fool you when compared to torch mode LED models. They are every bit as bright in your home under normal conditions. The colors, motion clarity and overall lifelike picture can not be matched in this sub $2k price range. I ended up with the Panasonic tcp60st50 for $1499 from amazon. In addition, the viewing angle is spectacular. The picture is the same at damn near 170 degrees off center. I have tried over and over again to find a flaw with no such luck. Anyone picky about picture quality should really look at plasma. It's not the ugly beast it used to be.

Many of us have no doubt that plasma has some better attributes compared to edge-lit led lcd tech. But for those of us that got in on the Black Friday deals, we could have gotten TWO Vizio's for the price of one Panny tcp60st50 plasma. In some ways I'm glad to hear that the Vizio at least fared better than the Samsung 6100. The dark spots on the Vizio don't bother me at all. It's the clouding/uniformity I'm not crazy about. If I get a set without it, I'd be very happy with everything else. Since we mostly use the TV speakers for OTA TV watching we haven't had the lip-sync woes...yet.
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post #849 of 2576
12/10/12 at 12:13am
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........ I am now thinking of returning it to get the 65" ONLY because Sam's is having the black Friday for 998 (5 more inch same price? I'm in). I'd go 70" but it's going to take too long. Also, I love the set (60").

keep in mind that the 65" is a different model series, so there will be some differences.

rick
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post #850 of 2576
12/10/12 at 5:54am
I still haven't seen any of the lip sync issues on any input(or onboard HDTV tuner) or output including digital using either PCM and DD.
I also haven't been able to set up the WiFi connection either.

I wonder if the lip sync issues are some how related to setting up the online apps or making the WiFi connection and getting downloads such as a firmware update? I wonder if the online/WiFi stuff adds additional overhead to the audio or video processing channels or something like that?
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post #851 of 2576
12/10/12 at 7:30am
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Can anyone clarify what precisely "gaming mode" does? I've heard conflicting answers around the web.
Also, does this TV support 24 fps? There's an option on my set-top to enable it, but I'm not sure if I should.

Gaming mode - pretty much disables any type of special processing for the hdtvs. So you are a getting a true solid image directly from your gaming machine. This specify means that you wont have any lag or button lag, because the TV will not produce anything extra.
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post #852 of 2576
12/10/12 at 8:22am
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Many of us have no doubt that plasma has some better attributes compared to edge-lit led lcd tech. But for those of us that got in on the Black Friday deals, we could have gotten TWO Vizio's for the price of one Panny tcp60st50 plasma. In some ways I'm glad to hear that the Vizio at least fared better than the Samsung 6100. The dark spots on the Vizio don't bother me at all. It's the clouding/uniformity I'm not crazy about. If I get a set without it, I'd be very happy with everything else. Since we mostly use the TV speakers for OTA TV watching we haven't had the lip-sync woes...yet.

Also, some of us have younger kids who have a tendency to forget to shut down at night, leaving a static graphic (eg the netflix interface) on screen for 10-12 hours until it's discovered. Burn in and IR have come a very long way with plasmas, but they are far from defeated in all cases. A plasma was a complete non starter for me.
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post #853 of 2576
12/10/12 at 8:42am
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Also, some of us have younger kids who have a tendency to forget to shut down at night, leaving a static graphic (eg the netflix interface) on screen for 10-12 hours until it's discovered. Burn in and IR have come a very long way with plasmas, but they are far from defeated in all cases. A plasma was a complete non starter for me.

Understood. My panasonic does have a feature that turns off the TV after so many hours of inactivity. It will pop up on the screen to remind you that it will turn off if you don't do something with the TV remote.
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post #854 of 2576
12/10/12 at 8:53am
ARC works, but you have to enable the option in the settings. I forgot what it is called. I will check tonight.
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post #855 of 2576
12/10/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by 7stringfury View Post

Understood. My panasonic does have a feature that turns off the TV after so many hours of inactivity. It will pop up on the screen to remind you that it will turn off if you don't do something with the TV remote.
The Visio has a sleep timer which you can set for 30 to 180 minutes and an Auto Off function which will turn off the TV if it receives no signal for 10 minutes.
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post #856 of 2576
12/10/12 at 9:56am
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I still haven't seen any of the lip sync issues on any input(or onboard HDTV tuner) or output including digital using either PCM and DD.
I also haven't been able to set up the WiFi connection either.
I wonder if the lip sync issues are some how related to setting up the online apps or making the WiFi connection and getting downloads such as a firmware update? I wonder if the online/WiFi stuff adds additional overhead to the audio or video processing channels or something like that?

anyone know how to disconnect the tv from the wifi signal....i pulled up the network settings, but it doesnt give me an option to disconnect....
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post #857 of 2576
12/10/12 at 2:23pm
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anyone know how to disconnect the tv from the wifi signal....i pulled up the network settings, but it doesnt give me an option to disconnect....

How about if your switch to a wired network?
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post #858 of 2576
12/10/12 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by 7stringfury View Post

I purchased 2 of these Vizo 60's, a sharp 70" 640 and finally a Samsung 60" 6100 series. (Yes my wife is still pissed off)Every singe one of them had issues ranging from lip sync, uniformity, DSE and flash lighting. The 6100 was by far the worst of the bunch, especially with uniformity and color accuracy. Both of the Vizios and the sharp suffered from dark spots in the corners. 4 tv's later I finally opened my eyes to a Panasonic plasma. Don't let the store displays fool you when compared to torch mode LED models. They are every bit as bright in your home under normal conditions. The colors, motion clarity and overall lifelike picture can not be matched in this sub $2k price range. I ended up with the Panasonic tcp60st50 for $1499 from amazon. In addition, the viewing angle is spectacular. The picture is the same at damn near 170 degrees off center. I have tried over and over again to find a flaw with no such luck. Anyone picky about picture quality should really look at plasma. It's not the ugly beast it used to be.

Funny I decided to rethink the whole thing and have seen the Panasonic ST series as well as the GT's. Very natural but have been concerned with the burn-in issue. LED's are hard to take after a while of looking at the depth of a good plasma in 2D. Suppose the lighter use it would see in the bedroom at night might be well suited for us.

The lip-synch issue for me is with the TV "speakers" or using the rca's out to preamp. The Vizio is a big screen for the money but is not going to make it in my household. The low level, but tweaked, Sony BX 520 LCD blows it out of the water.
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post #859 of 2576
12/10/12 at 5:21pm
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Gaming mode - pretty much disables any type of special processing for the hdtvs. So you are a getting a true solid image directly from your gaming machine. This specify means that you wont have any lag or button lag, because the TV will not produce anything extra.
Sorry for the confusion; so ENABLING game mode DISABLES said post-processing for that "lag-free" experience?

If that's the case, should I just leave this on all the time? In the settings menu, I've pretty much turned off all those extra processing options anyway.
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post #860 of 2576
12/11/12 at 10:48am
Hello All,

I am new to the forums and am glad i found this thread while searching google. I am wondering if anyone has issues where the TV volume control becomes unresponsive. I just got the TV a few days ago and all was working fine. I love the picture of the TV and have no lip syncing issues. I do have the backlight issues when looking at a black screen but that i can overlook.

My main issue is that my 60 inch becomes unresponsive to the remote and the side control panel. I am unable to raise the volume or change the input on the TV. The VIA button works but thats about it. I have replaced the batteries, unpaired and re-paired the remote and still nothing seems to work. The Tv does this sparactially so sometimes the volume control will work and sometimes its doesnt. I also noticed that when turning the TV off i hear a popping noise from what i think is the speakers and again when i turn it on. As i stated that this is not constant it does it every now and then but it gets highly frustrating. I called Vizio and they wikll be sending a repair person to fix it.

I was just wondering if anyone else has had these same issues and what your resolve is/was? Thanks for taking the time. Im sorry in advance if there was a post about this that i may have overlooked.
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post #861 of 2576
12/11/12 at 12:10pm
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Hello All,
I am new to the forums and am glad i found this thread while searching google. I am wondering if anyone has issues where the TV volume control becomes unresponsive. I just got the TV a few days ago and all was working fine. I love the picture of the TV and have no lip syncing issues. I do have the backlight issues when looking at a black screen but that i can overlook.
My main issue is that my 60 inch becomes unresponsive to the remote and the side control panel. I am unable to raise the volume or change the input on the TV. The VIA button works but thats about it. I have replaced the batteries, unpaired and re-paired the remote and still nothing seems to work. The Tv does this sparactially so sometimes the volume control will work and sometimes its doesnt. I also noticed that when turning the TV off i hear a popping noise from what i think is the speakers and again when i turn it on. As i stated that this is not constant it does it every now and then but it gets highly frustrating. I called Vizio and they wikll be sending a repair person to fix it.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had these same issues and what your resolve is/was? Thanks for taking the time. Im sorry in advance if there was a post about this that i may have overlooked.

Wow that sucks sorry. I do recall someone early in the 60 or 70 thread having had trouble with the remote not working. I *think* they did a factory reset and it fixed it though I can't recall for sure. May be worth reading through the first several pages.
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post #862 of 2576
12/11/12 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by denizenKRIM View Post

Sorry for the confusion; so ENABLING game mode DISABLES said post-processing for that "lag-free" experience?
If that's the case, should I just leave this on all the time? In the settings menu, I've pretty much turned off all those extra processing options anyway.

This may help

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57558145-221/what-is-game-mode/
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post #863 of 2576
12/11/12 at 2:08pm
Picked up this tv yesterday and could not be happier, there are no issues I see what so ever, except for one thing I'm hoping someone could help me with.

The only issue I'm having as of now is when I play xbox 360, hooked up via HDMI, particularly I've tried out Halo 4 and Madden 13, the sound is delayed a bit. For example if a shoot a gun in Halo the gun shoots and then a second later I hear the sound of it firing. Anybody know why this could be happening? If it makes any difference I am using a surround sound system, but the sound is delayed through the tv speakers while playing xbox as well. Also, while watching regular tv through my cable box the sound is perfect not the least bit delayed, so it's only the xbox having this problem.
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post #864 of 2576
12/11/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by TLang520 View Post

Picked up this tv yesterday and could not be happier, there are no issues I see what so ever, except for one thing I'm hoping someone could help me with.
The only issue I'm having as of now is when I play xbox 360, hooked up via HDMI, particularly I've tried out Halo 4 and Madden 13, the sound is delayed a bit. For example if a shoot a gun in Halo the gun shoots and then a second later I hear the sound of it firing.

This IS the lip synch issue...and you DO have it. Many have offered remedies, however they have all failed for me. I use the WOW calibration disk to measure the lip sync issues, and have not been able to completely correct them.

G/L
Edited by CAL_BEAR1982 - 12/11/12 at 3:05pm
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post #865 of 2576
12/11/12 at 3:26pm
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This IS the lip synch issue...and you DO have it. Many have offered remedies, however they have all failed for me. I use the WOW calibration disk to measure the lip sync issues, and have not been able to completely correct them.
G/L

I'm really hoping Vizio is working on this and it can be fixed with an update. This has to be costing them a young fortune, can you imagine how many are being returned for new sets and then returned permanently? I had planned to get a 70" for the LR but not until these issues are corrected.
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post #866 of 2576
12/11/12 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by CAL_BEAR1982 View Post

This IS the lip synch issue...and you DO have it. Many have offered remedies, however they have all failed for me. I use the WOW calibration disk to measure the lip sync issues, and have not been able to completely correct them.
G/L

I lied, my hdmi cable was loose on my xbox, everything is perfect now!
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post #867 of 2576
12/11/12 at 4:10pm
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I'm really hoping Vizio is working on this and it can be fixed with an update. This has to be costing them a young fortune, can you imagine how many are being returned for new sets and then returned permanently? I had planned to get a 70" for the LR but not until these issues are corrected.

Hey RC...I'm with you on that! Still trying to decide on returning mine to WM?? Vizio CS does not seem to acknowledge a problem, but do offer to send someone out to replace the board if needed. As posted previously, this does not seem to improve the problem, so a return may be the only option. Doubt I will exchange, just get the $ refund. Thanks for all the info you have posted in this thread...
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I lied, my hdmi cable was loose on my xbox, everything is perfect now!

LOL! Good on ya...
I use HDMI locks to help prevent any loose connections...(especially on the oppo to avr connection). It's difficult for me to access my equipment, so these add a bit of security.
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post #868 of 2576
12/11/12 at 4:18pm
long time lurker.. finally decided to chime in cause i also purchased this tv on bf and only problem i have with it is that lip sync problem . but if i change the channel and change it back it fixes but i shouldn't have to be doing that .. anyways i really don't wanna return it cause i'm happy with it it's just that one problem. i'm going to talk to vizio and see what they have to say about it
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post #869 of 2576
12/11/12 at 6:14pm
Hello all, I have a question for those with the lip sync issue. Was it noticeable right away or just show up at some point? I got in on the Amazon black Friday deal and don't want to set everything up permanently if I might need to take it down/ undo the wires. I've been using it for a couple of weeks and haven't had the issue pop up at all, so I'm hoping I'm in the clear. I have a Fios dvr and a Ps3 hooked up to a Sony ht-is100 which is connected to the hdmi 4 port on the tv. Wifi only on the tv at this point mainly because I haven't really used netflix/amazon that much when I run the wires properly I'll hook it up with ethernet cord.
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post #870 of 2576
12/11/12 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Ineed1080p View Post

Hello all, I have a question for those with the lip sync issue. Was it noticeable right away or just show up at some point?

"Sounds" like you are ok...I noticed it immediately. I have tried every configuratioin possible, with every adjustment allowed in the various menus, across all mediums (HDMI/Optical/Component) and still experience the issue. What is confusing to me, is another user had the board replaced and still had the issue; so it would seem everyone should have it, or Vizio's quality control is awful and there are batches of good and bad boards???
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