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post #91 of 294
As many others on this forum have learned ,,,,, using the cables from the source device "directly" to the TV with no issues is no indication that there is not a problem with the cables. Replace them. wink.gif
post #92 of 294
Good evening, First time caller long time listener.

I recently purchased the Marants SR6007 along with the Marantz CD6004 for dedicated CD playing. I have been trying to figure out if the receiver and CD player have the same DACs or if one device has better DACS. I've contacted Marantz and am starting to think I'm not going to ever hear from them. I have only been able to find limited information online. (see below)

CD6004 :

CS4398 High-Performance D/A Converter: The CD6004 uses a Super-Audio CD grade 192kHz/24-bit Cirrus Logic CS4398 D/A converter to provide exceptional sound quality. This high-performance D/A converter is capable of handling high definition audio data streams (DSD and 24-bit/192 kHz PCM signals).

SR6007:



24-bit/192-kHz DACs: The Marantz SR6007 utilizes a 192 kHz/24 bit D/A converter on each of the unit's seven channels for exceptional sound quality. The 192kHz sampling and 24-bit word length capabilities of the DACs allows you to play high-resolution recordings and hear the increased clarity, detail and dynamic range of those recordings


I would hate to assume the same DACs are used in both devices but kind of seems that way to me. I am trying to find out which device has the better DACs so as to hook up the appropriate interconnects for best sound quality. Assuming the DACs are the same or the receiver has better DACs I am thinking I would hook up the CD player with the digital coax to reduce noise in line and use the DACs in the receiver. If the DACs in the CD player are superior then I would have to purchase some RCA interconnects for that hook up.

Any confirmation or thoughts on this hook up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
post #93 of 294
As you're likely going to want to use Audyssey, you'll have to use the AVR's DACs either way.
post #94 of 294
So am I following correctly in that all input sources will need to be hooked up digitally if Audyssy is going to be used ? (using receivers DACs in all cases) Thanks.
post #95 of 294
No, you just cannot use the multi channel analog inputs, the regular stereo analog inputs are fine.
post #96 of 294
OK.... thanks. So there still may be a reason for hooking up the CD player with analog connections to use the on board DACs for superior sound quality vs. Digital using the receiver's DACs if they are not as good as the CD players.

I guess I'm still wondering about which has the better DACs between the SR6007 receiver and the CD6004 , or are they using the same DACs. Does anyone know for sure ? Marantz has yet to answer my inquiry and it's be a good while. Thanks.
post #97 of 294
Again, if you are using Audyssey on the 6007, regardless of whether you use a digital or analog input from the 6004, the signal will have to go through the 6007 DACs.
post #98 of 294
Ok..... thanks again. I think I get it now. (rolls eyes) Little slow on the uptake here. So if Audyssey is used the on board receiver DACS will always be used so it seems to me that there is no point in hooking up the CD player with analog interconnects if I plan to use Audyssey. Makes things simple on my end in that I don't have any decent analog RCA cables anymore but have plenty of digital coax interconnects. Thanks again for clearing this up.
post #99 of 294
Sure. Now you got it. smile.gif
post #100 of 294
Hey guys, Just got my SR6007 today.

I'm having a couple issues with a PC only setup:

1) I am connecting DVI -> monitor, hdmi -> receiver. There is no connection from receiver to monitor. My GPU (nvidia gtx 680) doesnt have any options to do audio only to the receiver. It seems that in order to make it work, I need to either go HDMI -> receiver -> monitor, or to tell the nvidia driver to clone one of my displays to the receiver.

This can obviously be fixed with the HDMI thing easiest, but if anyone knows of some software level stuff to accomplish this, i would be much obliged. Pure audio over HDMI.

2) Receiver Output Modes. When I give it a stereo signal, it should play 2.0 or 2.1 (if speakers == small and subwoofer == LFE+main). I have a 5.1 setup. When I send it a multichannel audio file (5.1 flac, for example) it should be playing in multichannel. When I send it DTS or DOLBY, it should be displaying DTS or Dolby and decoding them to 5.1

This is, i think, largely per-application settings.

VLC: When playing stereo, the receiver thinks it is getting a 3/2/.1 stream.
I think the stream itself is 3/2/.1, the device is set to 2.0 and use s/pdif when available, and no sound comes from the rear or center. But still, it should be displaying 2/0/.0. Not 3/2/.1. What gives?

When playing DTS, it receives a 3/2//1 stream
When playing Dolby, it receives either 3/2/.1 or 2/0/0 depending on the codec used.
When playing mutichannel files (5.1 flac or 5.1 AAC soundtrack) the receiver recieves a 3/2/.1 stream.

MusicBee(media player): Fixed it so that all music shows on receiver as 2/0/.0.

So with the receiver set to AUTO and the proper software configuration, everything works EXCEPT for 2.0 files in VLC. 2.0 files like downloaded music still are being sent over as a 5.1 stream.

I do have windows configured to use 5.1 speakers, so perhaps it is padding the 2.0 PCM stream with the remaining 4 channels and sending that over. But that doesnt make any sense. If musicbee can do it, why cant VLC?
post #101 of 294
Hi All,

I purchased the SR6007 around 6months ago from Len Wallis and have a 5.1 set up with Focal bird speakers / sub - it really rocks!!

I use it for blu ray / CD and SONOS music and it is setup via HDMI3 / Coax 1 / Coax 2 respectively - all are using different inputs.

When you switch inputs from say blu ray to SONOS it automatically changes the settings from DTS movie sound to SONOS surround stereo (as set by me) and a number of the other configurable settings change which is exactly what I want it to do.

The issue I have is the manual settings of each speaker level are constant. When you change the manual speaker level setting for any input this changes the setting FOR ALL SPEAKER inputs. For example a want to leave blu ray at the setup speaker levels as set by Audyssey, but want to run surround stereo for the SONOS input all at the same speaker level. The only way I have managed to solve part of this problem is that you can change the centre level via the "dialogue" setting per input so I can get the front 3 speakers to have an equal volume setting at least.

Just wondering whether anyone else has this issue. The manual on page 102 talks about a personal memory function and says "The surround parameters, tone settings and the volumes of the different speakers are stored for the individual sound modes." I'm not sure that is the case with individual speaker levels especially for the surround levels when using different inputs.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
post #102 of 294
Hello,
I have just set up the SR6007.
I need to upgrade my speakers.
I am looking for wall mount front and rear. 5.1
I am replacing klipsch quintet iii with a 10" Polk subwoofer.
My price range is $500 to $1500.
Any recommendations on what would be a good set up to match up with this AV reciever?
The room size is 20' x 30' with a peaked ceiling at 10'
I like it clear and loud, I watch alot of concert DVD's and DVR.

Regards,
Pete
post #103 of 294
I am just updating on the video image quality concern I raised at the bottom of page 3 on this thread. It has been solved and the solution makes me look a bit of a pillock but maybe others with the same lack of experience as me can learn from it.

I was experiencing "sparkles" or "snow" with my video once connected through the SDR6007 by hdmi. It was faint but obvious. I changed my hdmi leads as suggested by JDsmoothie and outlined in the Denon troubleshooting guide referenced also in this thread. It made no difference in my case.

To cut a long story short (involving contacting marantz and my local dealer) I idiscovered the issue was related to my Plasma TH-46pz81 tv. I had set the picture up using the "Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics" dvd so i thought it was pretty good. I adjusted it again only about 3 months back. However, my setting put the contrast very high (there was some clipping with my tv at the top end so instead of reducing down to a point where I could see contrast making a difference I just left it high). Then I adjusted brightness and again I ended up setting this quite high. It was this that causes the sparkles. With the contrast set high the brightness control has a limit of about 70% before it creates "artifacts" on the screen that look like sparkles. If I reduce the contrast to a level that just gives me the best white I can ramp up the brightness with no "sparkles" resulting.

I know it is my stupid mistake but it is another option for people who need to troubleshoot video issues.cool.gif

The reason I previously noted all worked fine when connected directly to the tv from source was that I had adjusted the picture settings for hdmi1 on the tv (and used this for the sr6007) but i compared it with the source going directly to the tv's hdmi2 input which had default brightness and contrast settings - hence no sparkles - hence me el thicko!
Edited by wrightal123 - 4/16/13 at 10:14am
post #104 of 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ma Rantz View Post

Good evening, First time caller long time listener.

I recently purchased the Marants SR6007 along with the Marantz CD6004 for dedicated CD playing. I have been trying to figure out if the receiver and CD player have the same DACs or if one device has better DACS. I've contacted Marantz and am starting to think I'm not going to ever hear from them. I have only been able to find limited information online. (see below)

CD6004 :

CS4398 High-Performance D/A Converter: The CD6004 uses a Super-Audio CD grade 192kHz/24-bit Cirrus Logic CS4398 D/A converter to provide exceptional sound quality. This high-performance D/A converter is capable of handling high definition audio data streams (DSD and 24-bit/192 kHz PCM signals).

SR6007:



24-bit/192-kHz DACs: The Marantz SR6007 utilizes a 192 kHz/24 bit D/A converter on each of the unit's seven channels for exceptional sound quality. The 192kHz sampling and 24-bit word length capabilities of the DACs allows you to play high-resolution recordings and hear the increased clarity, detail and dynamic range of those recordings


I would hate to assume the same DACs are used in both devices but kind of seems that way to me. I am trying to find out which device has the better DACs so as to hook up the appropriate interconnects for best sound quality. Assuming the DACs are the same or the receiver has better DACs I am thinking I would hook up the CD player with the digital coax to reduce noise in line and use the DACs in the receiver. If the DACs in the CD player are superior then I would have to purchase some RCA interconnects for that hook up.

Any confirmation or thoughts on this hook up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Here is a little FYI regarding my question about the DACs in the Marantz equipment. I finally received a reply from Marantz to this question. It only took weeks but at least they replied. wink.gif

from Marantz :

Hook up the 6004 analog to the 6007. The 6004 uses an upgraded DAC chipset from Cirrus Logic. (CS4398) The 6007 uses a DAC made by AKM. (AK4358VQ) The Cirrus Logic DAC will provide more accuracy and warmth.

Do read the follow up responses regarding digital hook up and Audyssey.

JDSmoothie's reply :
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Again, if you are using Audyssey on the 6007, regardless of whether you use a digital or analog input from the 6004, the signal will have to go through the 6007 DACs.
post #105 of 294
Another request for help please.

I would like to connect my Satellite box (SKY +HD) via hdmi for video and optical for audio.

The simple reason for this being that in the UK this sky box only outputs stereo audio through HDMI but offers 5.1 surround through optical.

I have connected the hdmi lead from the SKY box to the CBL/SAT input on the SR6007 and the Optical to the OPT1 (TV) input. On the SR6007 I have gone into setup/inputs/input assign and on the row for CBL/SAT I have selected HDMI1 under "HDMI" heading and OPT1 under "Digital" heading.

When I check the input signal for audio I am still seeing it as PCM. Can anyone help explain if what I am trying to do is possible?

Thanks
Edited by wrightal123 - 4/17/13 at 4:32pm
post #106 of 294
^^
You must also set the "INPUT SELECT" setting (p. 124 OM) to "Digital" otherwise as you have noted the HDMI audio takes priority.
post #107 of 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ma Rantz View Post

Here is a little FYI regarding my question about the DACs in the Marantz equipment. I finally received a reply from Marantz to this question. It only took weeks but at least they replied. wink.gif

from Marantz :

Hook up the 6004 analog to the 6007. The 6004 uses an upgraded DAC chipset from Cirrus Logic. (CS4398) The 6007 uses a DAC made by AKM. (AK4358VQ) The Cirrus Logic DAC will provide more accuracy and warmth.

Do read the follow up responses regarding digital hook up and Audyssey.

JDSmoothie's reply :

So then your point as to posting my response as it still applies regardless of the response from Marantz? confused.gif
post #108 of 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

So then your point as to posting my response as it still applies regardless of the response from Marantz? confused.gif

You made a good valid point and I thought it important to include your thoughts on the hook up (one more time). I posted the info from Marantz for those (if any like myself) that were curious as to which had the "better" DACs between the receiver and the cd player. I was not questioning your information just passing along the Marantz info of the type/brand of the DACS.

Thanks again for your input.
post #109 of 294
Understood. Thanks for explaining. I just wanted to emphasize that regardless of whether the source device has a better DAC or not, using Audyssey in the AVR will generally always provide for better audio fidelity. smile.gif
post #110 of 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
You must also set the "INPUT SELECT" setting (p. 124 OM) to "Digital" otherwise as you have noted the HDMI audio takes priority.

Thanks JDsmoothie. You beat customer support. I have done as you say and all works great. Much appreciated.
post #111 of 294
Problem.

I have a WD external hard-drive that i've been using to run my music through the 6007 via USB. In general, it was working fine, but I was forced to format the external drive in order to get rid of a small number of corrupted FLAC files that the 6007 didn't want to play nicely with. Anyways, after formatting, i re-installed all my music, but now the 6007 won't read the drive at all.

The front dial sits on "Please wait..." and the drive itself will "power up" for about 5 or 6 seconds and then power down again. Power up, 5 seconds, power down...in a continuous loop.

The external drive is being read perfectly fine by both my computer and by my Samsung Blu-Ray player, so this is clearly specific to the 6007.

Any ideas?
post #112 of 294
And i forgot to mention, i have another WD external drive that the Marantz reads just fine. And yes, i've transferred all my music on to that drive. Nevertheless, i'm curious as to how formatting a drive can ruin it in the eyes of the 6007.
post #113 of 294
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Originally Posted by ickabod665 View Post

And i forgot to mention, i have another WD external drive that the Marantz reads just fine. And yes, i've transferred all my music on to that drive. Nevertheless, i'm curious as to how formatting a drive can ruin it in the eyes of the 6007.

Maybe a stupid question but did you use FAT/FAT32?
post #114 of 294
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Originally Posted by postrokfan View Post

Maybe a stupid question but did you use FAT/FAT32?

D'oh!!

Thanks. Trying that now.

Edit: It's now working. Thanks again.
Edited by ickabod665 - 4/22/13 at 4:55pm
post #115 of 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by ickabod665 View Post

D'oh!!

Thanks. Trying that now.

Edit: It's now working. Thanks again.

No problem. Glad you're back to enjoying the music. wink.gif
post #116 of 294
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping to get some advice re 2 questions.

1. I just bought some B&W PM-1's as my main speakers... an excellent (albeit small) speaker which reviews have said sound pretty good even to 40 Hz. I re-ran Audyssey setup and there were defined as small with a 60 Hz crossover. I'd prefer when listening to 2 channel stereo that all frequencies were sent to these and none were diverted to the sub. For movies- I like that these pricey speakers are protected from loud sounds below 60 Hz, as these are really audio-oriented drivers. Any suggestions as to best handle this?

2. occasionally Airplay can't find my 6007, while it can see other Marantz receivers (5007) on the same wired network. I have to plug/unplug the 6007 to rectify the problem- then everything is fine. This usually happens when I've been playing apple lossless files from iTunes the day before. Airplay is running from a Win7 PC with iTunes (latest)- WIRED ethernet through an Apple Airport Extreme base station. I contacted Marantz about this asking about firmware- but i auto-updated back in March and am current.

Thanks everyone
post #117 of 294
post #118 of 294
Thanks jdsmoothie (I was hoping you'd answer).

But if I understand pg 127 of the owners manual correctly- selecting LFE+Main for the sub will send bass signals from all channels below a threshold (120 Hz by default) to the subwoofer... so when I'm listening to a 2 channel source my speakers will get all frequencies but the sub will still be playing everything below 120 Hz.. I'm hoping to have that sub silent when playing 2 channel music, but when playing a movie I'd like the main speakers not to get signals below 60 Hz. Think that's possible (or do I have this wrong)? Thanks again. John
post #119 of 294
First note that the LPF for LFE default setting of 120Hz only applies to the LFE (0.1) signal and not to any signals passed to the individual speakers, rather the speaker crossover settings determine what frequencies pass to the sub. Second, I overlooked the not wanting anything going to the sub so leave the sub setting to LFE and the sub won't be in play for stereo 2.0 audio, however, when receiving DD/DTS 5.1 audio, it will still play the (0.1) LFE track. smile.gif
post #120 of 294
Perfect thanks a lot. John
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