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post #211 of 1059
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

OK. Made a couple of comparison shots from Ironman. These two were posted over on the "screenshot wars" thread and made with "Mits HC3800 on a very basic DIY screen. Low bulb mode and Cinema gamma. Sometimes I wish the shadow detail was better, but I've never had it calibrated, or really messed with any of the calibration settings myself."


Now, here are the same shots taken on my 3020; Cinema, contrast -7, autoiris high. The Sony cyberShot DSC-TX100v 16.2 megapixel camera oversaturated the color so I backed it down -3 . Great example of how bright the 3020 is!


Very nice pictures. the faces on the 3020 seem a bit on the redish side. Is this due to the camera or is this due to the picture settings on your projector?
post #212 of 1059
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Originally Posted by mano33 View Post

I did not consider the TW3200. I was looking for a 1080p projector with 3d capability. If you don't care about 3d then you should get more projector for your money. How ever if you are on the fence about 3d and want to try it. If you get the 3020 you will probably love it. 3d was made for projectors. I have a Mitsubishi 65 inch dlp rear projection TV and though that this was the best 3d i had ever seen, even better than the movie theaters. Well that was before i got the 3020. The 3d quality is the same the bigger difference is the 100" diagonal image vs the 65" on the TV. Let me tell you that watching a 100" screen from 10'-12' is awesome. Particularly in 3d.
the 3020 is brighter than the HC3000. Without a doubt. I have mine in a room where lighting is completely controlled. I keep it mostly on Cinema. I have not even considered Dynamic mode, in this mode i would surely need to wear sunglasses:D. That's how bright the 3020 is. . I feel that it is better to have more, than less or not enough. In the former case You always have the option of lowering the brightness to your liking without affecting the picture. Also keep in mind that as the projector ages the brightness level will keep dimming as well.
P.s This weekend i will try to play a couple of games. Just to test them out. Call of duty (the latest one). Dishonored and Assassin's Creed. I'll let you know what i think. I played Call of duty on my 65 in Mitsubishi 3d TV. First person shooters are made for 3d. It is a different game when played in 3d. The sight glass on the riffle is right up your nose. Imagine that one 92 or 100" screen?


I guess it's nice with high brightness - but I'm also thinking that it may result in a poorer black level? How do you think the black level is compared with the HC3000?

You may be right that I'd think 3D is cool once I have it - though I suspect some friends and family members won't like it, so I would probably get to watch 2D quite often even though I personally liked 3D smile.gif It's hard to make the decision - it would be much easier if I had experience with 3D in the home - I have only watched a few 3D movies in the cinema (Hugo, Tintin and some imax stuff) and while I think it was fun I don't know if I'd miss it alot if it wasn't there smile.gif

Would be nice to hear your opinion about gaming, I assume you will do that in 3D as well?

I hope I'm not asking too much, but it's very nice to hear your opinions since you upgraded from the same projector as me smile.gif
post #213 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Shad0wDK View Post

I guess it's nice with high brightness - but I'm also thinking that it may result in a poorer black level? How do you think the black level is compared with the HC3000?
You may be right that I'd think 3D is cool once I have it - though I suspect some friends and family members won't like it, so I would probably get to watch 2D quite often even though I personally liked 3D smile.gif It's hard to make the decision - it would be much easier if I had experience with 3D in the home - I have only watched a few 3D movies in the cinema (Hugo, Tintin and some imax stuff) and while I think it was fun I don't know if I'd miss it alot if it wasn't there smile.gif
Would be nice to hear your opinion about gaming, I assume you will do that in 3D as well?
I hope I'm not asking too much, but it's very nice to hear your opinions since you upgraded from the same projector as me smile.gif

No problem mate...I'll let you know what i think. And yes i'll be trying 2, 3d games. Call of duty and Assassin's Creed.
post #214 of 1059
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Originally Posted by mano33 View Post

Very nice pictures. the faces on the 3020 seem a bit on the redish side. Is this due to the camera or is this due to the picture settings on your projector?
I think it's a mixture of both. The camera definitely overstaturated, the fact that it oversaturated the red probably proves there's too much. Anyway, I didn't do any type of calibration yet, professional or otherwise. Just turned down the contrast some as noted.

Watched Dark Knight Rises. Overall very satisfied with the experience (and that's what it is now - an experience!) but did notice a lot of the indoor scenes gave a reddish cast to faces. Definitely needs some calibration. I know I have a THX disk around here sometime. Noticed a bit of judder as well but to be expected on this model.
post #215 of 1059
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Originally Posted by mano33 View Post

No problem mate...I'll let you know what i think. And yes i'll be trying 2, 3d games. Call of duty and Assassin's Creed.

Cool smile.gif I will look forward to hear what you have to say smile.gif

What about the black level? How would you compare this with HC3000?
post #216 of 1059
I'm wondering if anyone could chime in about the 3D performance I'm experiencing with my 3020. Overall I'd have to say i'm very pleased, but there's times when I wonder if I have a defective unit since I'm pretty sure more forum members would complain about what I'm experiencing. It all has to do with ghosting. Numerous times while watching 3D, I see ghosting. When I pause the frame, go into 3D settings and adjust the 3D depth controls, I'm able to eliminate the ghosting on that particular frame by making slight 3D depth control adjustments (say going from 0 to -2). Then I'll play the moving again and notice I'm seeing ghosting in a different area of the frame and change the 3D depth to a different number and it disappears. Is this normal?

One example would be the menu frame for the movie Tangled. When the depth control is set to 0, the text at the bottom of the screen has severe ghosting, but when I adjust the depth to -2 the text aligns. Same problem with Thor. I wish that adjustment fixed the problem but then throughout the movie images align much better when set to 0...sometimes +2 or -4 etc. Aside from the Epson glasses that come with the projector, I also purchased a set of Panasonic RF that allow the option to watch 3D in 2D with the flip of a switch on the glasses. Theoretically shouldn't I experience zero ghosting when those glasses are set to 2D mode? I have the projector dead center, ceiling mounted with zero keystone adjustment. I've tried different 3D brightness settings, all of which produce the same ghosting effect. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this just normal for 3D? Does your menu text on Tangled align perfectly? I figured this is the most knowledgeable place for an answer.
post #217 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Laserob View Post

I'm wondering if anyone could chime in about the 3D performance I'm experiencing with my 3020. Overall I'd have to say i'm very pleased, but there's times when I wonder if I have a defective unit since I'm pretty sure more forum members would complain about what I'm experiencing. It all has to do with ghosting. Numerous times while watching 3D, I see ghosting. When I pause the frame, go into 3D settings and adjust the 3D depth controls, I'm able to eliminate the ghosting on that particular frame by making slight 3D depth control adjustments (say going from 0 to -2). Then I'll play the moving again and notice I'm seeing ghosting in a different area of the frame and change the 3D depth to a different number and it disappears. Is this normal?
One example would be the menu frame for the movie Tangled. When the depth control is set to 0, the text at the bottom of the screen has severe ghosting, but when I adjust the depth to -2 the text aligns. Same problem with Thor. I wish that adjustment fixed the problem but then throughout the movie images align much better when set to 0...sometimes +2 or -4 etc. Aside from the Epson glasses that come with the projector, I also purchased a set of Panasonic RF that allow the option to watch 3D in 2D with the flip of a switch on the glasses. Theoretically shouldn't I experience zero ghosting when those glasses are set to 2D mode? I have the projector dead center, ceiling mounted with zero keystone adjustment. I've tried different 3D brightness settings, all of which produce the same ghosting effect. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this just normal for 3D? Does your menu text on Tangled align perfectly? I figured this is the most knowledgeable place for an answer.

I can't speak for Tangled. But I've watched amazing spiderman and the opening of Drive Angry and did not notice any ghosting on the 3020 default settings. I checked Thor and did duplicate the ghosting on the menus on both the Epson glasses and Samsung $20 glasses. Changing it to -2 fixed it on both. Didn't get a chance to see if it affected the movie itself yet, though. Check the diagonal screen size in the 3D settings as well. I didn't see much of a difference going from 100 to 90 inches, but I can conceive that it might. 3D brightness will also highlight ghosts.

As far as it being normal, with active 3D, yes, it's pretty much normal - which is one advantage of passive 3D.
post #218 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Laserob View Post

I'm wondering if anyone could chime in about the 3D performance I'm experiencing with my 3020. Overall I'd have to say i'm very pleased, but there's times when I wonder if I have a defective unit since I'm pretty sure more forum members would complain about what I'm experiencing. It all has to do with ghosting. Numerous times while watching 3D, I see ghosting. When I pause the frame, go into 3D settings and adjust the 3D depth controls, I'm able to eliminate the ghosting on that particular frame by making slight 3D depth control adjustments (say going from 0 to -2). Then I'll play the moving again and notice I'm seeing ghosting in a different area of the frame and change the 3D depth to a different number and it disappears. Is this normal?
One example would be the menu frame for the movie Tangled. When the depth control is set to 0, the text at the bottom of the screen has severe ghosting, but when I adjust the depth to -2 the text aligns. Same problem with Thor. I wish that adjustment fixed the problem but then throughout the movie images align much better when set to 0...sometimes +2 or -4 etc. Aside from the Epson glasses that come with the projector, I also purchased a set of Panasonic RF that allow the option to watch 3D in 2D with the flip of a switch on the glasses. Theoretically shouldn't I experience zero ghosting when those glasses are set to 2D mode? I have the projector dead center, ceiling mounted with zero keystone adjustment. I've tried different 3D brightness settings, all of which produce the same ghosting effect. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this just normal for 3D? Does your menu text on Tangled align perfectly? I figured this is the most knowledgeable place for an answer.

It should remain at Zero. Unless your screen size is adjusted. When you select your screen size the ADJUSTMENT will change accordingly.
You shouldn't have a problem with A LOT of ghosting. You might not have a DEFECTIVE UNIT - BUT - A unit that is not 100% accurate.
I would call up EPSON. Tell them your machine has very bad ghosting...you can either exchange it where you purchased it, or BY GIVING EPSON
your CREDIT CARD info to EPSON so they can put a HOLD on MONEY. They will send you one ASAP within 1 -2 days.
Check that unit out. Be thorough. Then decide if it's the unit, or is it just a NORM with the same movie.

I have found the GHOSTING on this unit to be less, if not NONE. Then most of the other models I have examined.

iMIKE THEATRE
post #219 of 1059
Found a good description of the Epson settings controls. Not for our particular model, but still useful I think.
post #220 of 1059
Hey, I just bought an Epson Home Cinema 3020 projector and I have a couple of questions. First, I wanted to let you guys know I am 17 and basically have no knowledge of anything but the basics.
Here is what I have in my basement:
- The projector (about 11 ft. from projector. seats are about 13 ft.)
- Screen Innovations - Sensation 110" Fixed Projector Screen - TSF110MW
- Sony - 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player - BDPS590
- Marantz - Slimline 350W 7.1-Ch. A/V Home Theater Receiver - NR1603 (for Projector and Blu Ray)
1) I read something about the Disney WOW blu ray on older posts and just needed some clarification. Does is it just improve your projector? Would it be something you guys recommend or is it not worth it? And if you do recommend it can someone explain how it works and how it “calibrates the projector if it goes in the blu ray..?)
2) The Epson 3D glasses are like $99.99 and that is way too expensive for me. I was looking to buy 8 and that would come out to be $800. I went looking for other ones and decided to buy these “universal” (Ps3 – sony 98079) glasses. They did not work… I don’t understand if I have to “pair” them or if I just turn them on and they just have to work. I need help on this. I read that these Samsung SSG-4100GB worked but they are not rechargeable, which is something I’m looking for. Should I pay the extra $20 for these Samsung SSG-3550CR just because it’s rechargeable? I’m just looking for a nice pair of glasses that will work. I have Brave 3D, Polar Express 3D & might get Avatar 3D, Titanic 3D, & Prometheus 3D. Any advice would help!!
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3) My final question would be (if anyone knows about receivers or idk): how does a 7.1 home theater system work? I tried playing The Dark Knight Rises through all speakers, but it would only play through 5.1. Can anyone help with this?
Thanks!
post #221 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Soapysteven View Post

Hey, I just bought an Epson Home Cinema 3020 projector and I have a couple of questions. First, I wanted to let you guys know I am 17 and basically have no knowledge of anything but the basics.
Here is what I have in my basement:
- The projector (about 11 ft. from projector. seats are about 13 ft.)
- Screen Innovations - Sensation 110" Fixed Projector Screen - TSF110MW
- Sony - 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player - BDPS590
- Marantz - Slimline 350W 7.1-Ch. A/V Home Theater Receiver - NR1603 (for Projector and Blu Ray)
1) I read something about the Disney WOW blu ray on older posts and just needed some clarification. Does is it just improve your projector? Would it be something you guys recommend or is it not worth it? And if you do recommend it can someone explain how it works and how it “calibrates the projector if it goes in the blu ray..?)
2) The Epson 3D glasses are like $99.99 and that is way too expensive for me. I was looking to buy 8 and that would come out to be $800. I went looking for other ones and decided to buy these “universal” (Ps3 – sony 98079) glasses. They did not work… I don’t understand if I have to “pair” them or if I just turn them on and they just have to work. I need help on this. I read that these Samsung SSG-4100GB worked but they are not rechargeable, which is something I’m looking for. Should I pay the extra $20 for these Samsung SSG-3550CR just because it’s rechargeable? I’m just looking for a nice pair of glasses that will work. I have Brave 3D, Polar Express 3D & might get Avatar 3D, Titanic 3D, & Prometheus 3D. Any advice would help!!
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3) My final question would be (if anyone knows about receivers or idk): how does a 7.1 home theater system work? I tried playing The Dark Knight Rises through all speakers, but it would only play through 5.1. Can anyone help with this?
Thanks!

Hi and welcome; you've found this forum so the difficult part is done, finding out where to ask questions! So, let's see what we can do to start you on your journey to AV geekness!
1). The WOW disc doesn't do anything itself, it's a collection of tools that allow you to adjust your PJ's color/tint/brightness, etc. for the best picture possible. Check this link for info and the technical manual. Read the manual to see if this is something you'd want to try.

2). The Samsung SSG-4100GB work just fine with the 3020. True, they're not rechargable themselves, they use replaceable CR2025 batteries just like watches, some cameras, and such. Batteries cost less than $2 so don't worry bout that. The sammy glasses have a small button to the right of the nose piece on the top. Just hold it down and it'll flash green, steady green when it pairs, then goes out. No light after that is a good thing. It'll only flash again (red I believe) if it looses pairing. Really simple.

3. Decoding audio is more complicated but the first thing to look for is if the movie you're watching even has 7.1 audio. Then you'll have to check the manuals of your player and receiver. Start with your Sony and look for the setting that allows the player to pass the audio stream unmolested to your Marantz so it can decode the 7.1 audio. If you can find the threads here on AVS on those two particular devices, I'm sure you'll find someone who's asked the very same question.

Hope this gets you started!
post #222 of 1059
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

Hi and welcome; you've found this forum so the difficult part is done, finding out where to ask questions! So, let's see what we can do to start you on your journey to AV geekness!
1). The WOW disc doesn't do anything itself, it's a collection of tools that allow you to adjust your PJ's color/tint/brightness, etc. for the best picture possible. Check this link for info and the technical manual. Read the manual to see if this is something you'd want to try.
2). The Samsung SSG-4100GB work just fine with the 3020. True, they're not rechargable themselves, they use replaceable CR2025 batteries just like watches, some cameras, and such. Batteries cost less than $2 so don't worry bout that. The sammy glasses have a small button to the right of the nose piece on the top. Just hold it down and it'll flash green, steady green when it pairs, then goes out. No light after that is a good thing. It'll only flash again (red I believe) if it looses pairing. Really simple.
3. Decoding audio is more complicated but the first thing to look for is if the movie you're watching even has 7.1 audio. Then you'll have to check the manuals of your player and receiver. Start with your Sony and look for the setting that allows the player to pass the audio stream unmolested to your Marantz so it can decode the 7.1 audio. If you can find the threads here on AVS on those two particular devices, I'm sure you'll find someone who's asked the very same question.
Hope this gets you started!

Hey thanks! That was a lot if help.
1) so this can improve my JP's performance?
2) Sammy = Samsung (ik I'm a noob)?
Do you anything about the ps3 Sony and if it needs to be paired? (do ALL glasses need to be paired)?

Thank you so much for replying!! I'm new to this and it has been a big help! Again, thanks!
post #223 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Soapysteven View Post

Hey thanks! That was a lot if help.
1) so this can improve my JP's performance?
2) Sammy = Samsung (ik I'm a noob)?
Do you anything about the ps3 Sony and if it needs to be paired? (do ALL glasses need to be paired)?
Thank you so much for replying!! I'm new to this and it has been a big help! Again, thanks!

1). It'll probably look better, sure. The WOW disk is cheap enough, I might try it myself. I try a lot of "professional" settings from this site and CNET.com on my TVs but usually end up just adjusting it to where it looks good to me - even if they differ from what the pros say. From reviews I've read on the 3020, it's pretty good right out of the box. If you don't have a lot of light in your viewing room, just put it on cinema or natural. If you have a lot of windows then living room setting may be better. Do you need a manual on the 3020?
2). Yep, Sammy = Samsung, Panny = Panasonic; geek-speak. :-)
The glasses pair to the projector, not the PS3. I think there is a setting to tell the PS3 what you are connected to but I'm not sure what it is. Do a search of this thread for "PS3" and see if anyone else has mentioned it.
post #224 of 1059
Oh, and here's a dictionary with a bunch of terms you'll be seeing a lot of. enjoy!
post #225 of 1059
Lol I'm stupid -_-
Ok buy my glasses aren't being paired to a ps3. I don't even have a ps3. I'll try to find out how to do it!
Thanks!
I really appreciate it!
post #226 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Soapysteven View Post

Lol I'm stupid -_-
Ok buy my glasses aren't being paired to a ps3. I don't even have a ps3. I'll try to find out how to do it!
Thanks!
I really appreciate it!

I'm sorry to tell you those PS3 glasses aren't gonna work with your 3020. They're IR (infrared) glasses and the 3020 uses RF (radio frequency) glasses. The PS3s work great for me but I have the 3010 that is IR. Return the PS3s and get the Sammy ones NGWest recommended. I've got both battery powered and rechargeable glasses and actually prefer the battery ones. The batteries last a LONG time, are available dirt cheap (think internet, dollar store) and I can change them in minutes if need be as opposed to waiting for a recharge. JMHO
Hope this helps. Good luck!

Ed
post #227 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Soapysteven View Post

Lol I'm stupid -_-
Ok buy my glasses aren't being paired to a ps3. I don't even have a ps3. I'll try to find out how to do it!
Thanks!
I really appreciate it!

Sorry, as you mentioned the PS3 glasses, I assumed you had the console. But again, whatever glasses you get, they pair to the projector not whatever player you have. The 3020 has an RF transmitter built in, the glasses have a receiver built in. The PJ "talks" to the glasses to sync which frame of the movie is linked to each frame of the glasses. Bottom line, from what I've read, any RF (but not IR, infra-red) glasses will work with the 3020. The samsung glasses I mentioned above are your cheapest option if you don't mind replacing the batteries every couple of months.

I know you said you preferred rechargeable glasses, but bear in mind that those built in batteries degrade over time (2 years? Maybe?) and once the built-in batteries die the glasses are useless. But if it's worth the extra $20 for the convenience, that's up to you.
post #228 of 1059
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Originally Posted by old corps View Post

I'm sorry to tell you those PS3 glasses aren't gonna work with your 3020. They're IR (infrared) glasses and the 3020 uses RF (radio frequency) glasses. The PS3s work great for me but I have the 3010 that is IR. Return the PS3s and get the Sammy ones NGWest recommended. I've got both battery powered and rechargeable glasses and actually prefer the battery ones. The batteries last a LONG time, are available dirt cheap (think internet, dollar store) and I can change them in minutes if need be as opposed to waiting for a recharge. JMHO
Hope this helps. Good luck!
Ed

Thank you! I will be returning them and buying the Samsung glasses smile.gif
post #229 of 1059
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

Sorry, as you mentioned the PS3 glasses, I assumed you had the console. But again, whatever glasses you get, they pair to the projector not whatever player you have. The 3020 has an RF transmitter built in, the glasses have a receiver built in. The PJ "talks" to the glasses to sync which frame of the movie is linked to each frame of the glasses. Bottom line, from what I've read, any RF (but not IR, infra-red) glasses will work with the 3020. The samsung glasses I mentioned above are your cheapest option if you don't mind replacing the batteries every couple of months.
I know you said you preferred rechargeable glasses, but bear in mind that those built in batteries degrade over time (2 years? Maybe?) and once the built-in batteries die the glasses are useless. But if it's worth the extra $20 for the convenience, that's up to you.

No it's fine!! Thank you for your help. I will be getting the battery powered (not rechargeable) Samsung glasses! Thanks for your help. I added reputation (not sure that does but I did see another way to thank you lol).
Thanks for helping me!
post #230 of 1059
Hey all! I am a happy owner of an older Epson 1080UB Projector and I'm considering a replacement. Right now the projector is used in my den, and a lot during the day when our baby is watching television. Yes, it used to be a dedicated HT Projector smile.gif So for me the key issues are lamp brightness and lamp life.

It looks like the 3020 has a slightly lower contrast ratio (40k:1 vs 50k:1), but a much higher brightness (2400 vs 1600 lumens) and lamp life (4000 vs 3000). My 1080UB lamp is 2/3 done, so instead of buying a new $300 lamp, I could sell my 1080UB, add some money and get a new projector (bonus: 3D).

My question is if the new projector will actually be an upgrade? Are there any 1080UB owners who own the 3020?

Thanks!
post #231 of 1059
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

Hey all! I am a happy owner of an older Epson 1080UB Projector and I'm considering a replacement. Right now the projector is used in my den, and a lot during the day when our baby is watching television. Yes, it used to be a dedicated HT Projector smile.gif So for me the key issues are lamp brightness and lamp life.
It looks like the 3020 has a slightly lower contrast ratio (40k:1 vs 50k:1), but a much higher brightness (2400 vs 1600 lumens) and lamp life (4000 vs 3000). My 1080UB lamp is 2/3 done, so instead of buying a new $300 lamp, I could sell my 1080UB, add some money and get a new projector (bonus: 3D).
My question is if the new projector will actually be an upgrade? Are there any 1080UB owners who own the 3020?
Thanks!

My first guess was the 3020 would indeed be an upgrade from a 4 year old PJ but after reading a review of the 1080, I'm not sure. You'd gain the lumens, 3D and 2D to 3D conversion, and lose the lens shift, 24fps support. If you are still happy with the picture...I really don't know.
post #232 of 1059
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Originally Posted by ngwest36 View Post

My first guess was the 3020 would indeed be an upgrade from a 4 year old PJ but after reading a review of the 1080, I'm not sure. You'd gain the lumens, 3D and 2D to 3D conversion, and lose the lens shift, 24fps support. If you are still happy with the picture...I really don't know.

I pulled the trigger and ordered a 3020 using the 'Epson Loyalty' discount. Honestly, my 1080UB is running on 'Dynamic' all the time (washing out the image), so a native brighter projector, in a bright room should be an improvement. I will let you know how when I receive the 3020 how it compares to a 4 year old $3,000 projector...
post #233 of 1059
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

I pulled the trigger and ordered a 3020 using the 'Epson Loyalty' discount. Honestly, my 1080UB is running on 'Dynamic' all the time (washing out the image), so a native brighter projector, in a bright room should be an improvement. I will let you know how when I receive the 3020 how it compares to a 4 year old $3,000 projector...
Cool. Hope you like it. The pros who reviewed it so far say the 3020 was made for bright rooms. I really like mine.
post #234 of 1059
+1 on the Jamestown screen. I have the 110", beautiful! Ordering the 5020 soon, so glad to hear that you're pleased with the 3020. Enjoy!
post #235 of 1059
Watched RE: Retribution on the Epson 3020. 3D Cinema mode, medium brightness on the Samsung SSG 4100 glasses. No crosstalk to speak of. I may have caught 2-3 instances but it was so faint and fleeting that it may been nothing.
post #236 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Laserob View Post

I'm wondering if anyone could chime in about the 3D performance I'm experiencing with my 3020. Overall I'd have to say i'm very pleased, but there's times when I wonder if I have a defective unit since I'm pretty sure more forum members would complain about what I'm experiencing. It all has to do with ghosting. Numerous times while watching 3D, I see ghosting. When I pause the frame, go into 3D settings and adjust the 3D depth controls, I'm able to eliminate the ghosting on that particular frame by making slight 3D depth control adjustments (say going from 0 to -2). Then I'll play the moving again and notice I'm seeing ghosting in a different area of the frame and change the 3D depth to a different number and it disappears. Is this normal?
One example would be the menu frame for the movie Tangled. When the depth control is set to 0, the text at the bottom of the screen has severe ghosting, but when I adjust the depth to -2 the text aligns. Same problem with Thor. I wish that adjustment fixed the problem but then throughout the movie images align much better when set to 0...sometimes +2 or -4 etc. Aside from the Epson glasses that come with the projector, I also purchased a set of Panasonic RF that allow the option to watch 3D in 2D with the flip of a switch on the glasses. Theoretically shouldn't I experience zero ghosting when those glasses are set to 2D mode? I have the projector dead center, ceiling mounted with zero keystone adjustment. I've tried different 3D brightness settings, all of which produce the same ghosting effect. Does anyone else have this issue? Is this just normal for 3D? Does your menu text on Tangled align perfectly? I figured this is the most knowledgeable place for an answer.

I was having the exact same problem you are having making watching a 3D movie impossible.............The ghosting was so distracting that i was to pissed to even bother with a 3D movie..... Epson is sending me a new unit this week. I hope i do not see any major ghosting with this one but i think i will have the same problems which sucks. I saw less ghosting from my 3010.
post #237 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

I was having the exact same problem you are having making watching a 3D movie impossible.............The ghosting was so distracting that i was to pissed to even bother with a 3D movie..... Epson is sending me a new unit this week. I hope i do not see any major ghosting with this one but i think i will have the same problems which sucks. I saw less ghosting from my 3010.

Well i just set up the new 3020 and the ghosting is completely gone smile.gif Let just hope it stays that way
post #238 of 1059
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Originally Posted by Lt.Aldo.Raine View Post

Well i just set up the new 3020 and the ghosting is completely gone smile.gif Let just hope it stays that way

That's good to hear! I'm going to give Epson a call and ask for a replacement unit as well. Thanks for your help. smile.gif
post #239 of 1059
So... I just changed my Epson 1080UB (with 2k on the lamp) for the 3020 and all I can say is holy brightness! The 'cinema' setting is pretty much as bright as my old 'dynamic'. Obviously the 2k hours on the 1080UB had something to do with it is, but for living room viewing I'm very satisfied with the 3020. The 3D also works really well. Just setting it up properly without lens shift was a pain, but worth saving the extra $1,000 over the 5020UB. Highly recommend!
post #240 of 1059
Quick Q for just in case we have another power outage (can't run my Parasounds on my generator smile.gif), how do you enable the internal 3020 speakers when using HDMI? I might be crazy but I can't find this in the manual
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