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post #481 of 759
Well at lease it looks like they have tighten the quality control on these as this one is as good as the one I took back.

Rich
post #482 of 759
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If the only time you see it is when running WoW, why worry about it? I swear AVS has an overabundance of OCD sufferers! tongue.gif
what does OCD stand for?
post #483 of 759
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what does OCD stand for?

OCD=obsessive compulsive disorder ???!!! wink.gif
post #484 of 759
As in Nick-picking Maximum Symptom...trying for perfection to the MAX.
post #485 of 759
I truly enjoy suffering from OCD, and could not imagine life any other way!

We are also in good company: Darwin, Donald Trump, Nikola Tesla, Einstein, Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Martin Scorsese, Harrison Ford, Churchill, and many other great contributors to society (ok perhaps I will reserve judgement on the Trump) have been diagnoses with this mental disorder that has driven them to achieve what they have!
post #486 of 759
Still wondering how typical the smearing problem is. I'd be interested in seeing results from other folks doing this test...
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Originally Posted by hiperco View Post

Lets talk more about this smearing. I've got it as well. It kinda bugs me knowing its there, but I agree that the overall image quality for movies doesn't seem to be at all affected. One thing I can say though is the convergence seems to be acceptable based on the white text image. Some of the 5020's seem to have bad convergence (from the thread linked below).

I used the test images from the this thread for the following pictures (put them on a USB stick and use the PJ to view): http://www.avsforum.com/t/1445525/all-5020-6020-owners-please-help-please-answer-this-poll-in-an-attempt-to-get-a-response-from-epson




post #487 of 759
Out of curiosity, how long is your HDMI cable? The projector has a 16-ft. HDMI distance limitation. If the cable is to long you won't be able to get the 3d effect. You will need to get an HDMI signal booster.
post #488 of 759
Out of curiosity, how long is your HDMI cable? The projector has a 16-ft. HDMI distance limitation. If the cable is to long you won't be able to get the 3d effect. You will need to get an HDMI signal booster.
post #489 of 759
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Originally Posted by toeknee2k View Post

Out of curiosity, how long is your HDMI cable? The projector has a 16-ft. HDMI distance limitation. If the cable is to long you won't be able to get the 3d effect. You will need to get an HDMI signal booster.

Well I am running a a 3 foot cable to a big two out put switched, then a 25 foot cable to a switch that allows me to choose computer or DVD, then 25 ft more to the projector, and I wanted 5 3 D movies already.

I found the BIG problem was a main switch with two out puts so added a couple of MECHANICAL switches to by pass the big switch when I want 3D>

Rich
post #490 of 759
Any cable run over around 20' or so starts to get iffy, especially with 3d, and added switches etc. can make it worse. Different components have different tolerances for connectivity due to the difference in the sensitivity of the inputs. I would try to at least use a 22 AWG cable, or a red mere product unless you try a Cat 5 run.
post #491 of 759
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Any cable run over around 20' or so starts to get iffy, especially with 3d, and added switches etc. can make it worse. Different components have different tolerances for connectivity due to the difference in the sensitivity of the inputs. I would try to at least use a 22 AWG cable, or a red mere product unless you try a Cat 5 run.

Well I got lucky then.

Rich
post #492 of 759
I wonder if 3020 has function to sync with screen, i.e. while I turn on projector, the screen is down automatically, and vice verse. I have a wireless trigger out coming with my screen but could not find the pairing port on projector. Does 3020 support trigger out function like this?
post #493 of 759
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Any cable run over around 20' or so starts to get iffy, especially with 3d, and added switches etc. can make it worse. Different components have different tolerances for connectivity due to the difference in the sensitivity of the inputs. I would try to at least use a 22 AWG cable, or a red mere product unless you try a Cat 5 run.

I can highly recommend BJC cables for long runs instead of Monoprice cheapos
post #494 of 759
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I wonder if 3020 has function to sync with screen, i.e. while I turn on projector, the screen is down automatically, and vice verse. I have a wireless trigger out coming with my screen but could not find the pairing port on projector. Does 3020 support trigger out function like this?

Unfortunately it does not have a 12v trigger. I was surprised by this omission when I upgraded from my 8350 (that had 12v trigger) and was controlling my screen.

Here is a $20 workaround that works perfectly for me:

1) Get one of those power saving power bars such a this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Digital-PowerCenter-HDP-650G/dp/B002RL9XQW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1361137517&sr=8-3&keywords=monster+650
This essentially shuts down power to switched outlets, when it detects low current on the primary outlet.

2) Plug in your projector, or another component that switches on whenever you watch a movie into the primary outlet.

3) Plug in a 12v DC wall wart into the switched outlets.

Voila, the 12v now switches on and off, pulling the screen up or down.
post #495 of 759
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Originally Posted by toeknee2k View Post

Out of curiosity, how long is your HDMI cable? The projector has a 16-ft. HDMI distance limitation. If the cable is to long you won't be able to get the 3d effect. You will need to get an HDMI signal booster.

I am running BlueRigger 30 foot HDMI cables and have no problem with 3D.
post #496 of 759
I am running 25ft no-name bargain electronic store cables, no problem with 3D (PC SBS, Cable box SBS, and Blu-ray full framepacked)! Never even a single glitch in the ten or so 3d movies I have watched!
Edited by steveCay - 2/18/13 at 11:46am
post #497 of 759
OK Have many checked the 2D to 3D converter system??

I find that I keep getting a left eye field that is warped, ann bends along the lower 1/3 of the picture to the right.

I have a call into tech support about this.

I have seen it on all the 3020s I have had so far.

Check and let me know if you see the same problem will you.

Rich
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OK Do you have the problem?

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post #500 of 759
Hi everyone, im new to the HT world & to this forum. As most newbie's i have done tons of research & ready to buy the 3020e. However almost every site has it on backorder including best buy. I believe epson will be making a shipment this month so I'll keep checking. In the meantime I was hoping to get some feedback...

Why 3020e over 3020?

The wireless feature for connecting 5 hdmi devices on the 3020e is appealing but it also costs $300 more than 3020 rolleyes.gif I noticed most users here went with the 3020 & I was curious what solutions you may have found to fill the wireless need OR maybe it's not much of a need?

I know iogear makes a wireless hd kit (http://www.iogear.com/product/GW3DHDKIT/) but it only supports 2 hdmi inputs & costs $250. For an extra $50 I could have 3 more inputs cool.gif

Any feedback would be nice to hear.

I will also post when bestbuy is shipping 3020e again. I feel like I'm the only guy waiting for one frown.gif
post #501 of 759
First it was they are back ordered on Lamps now whole projectors...

Maybe it is the lamp shortage delaying projectors.
Edited by racprops - 2/19/13 at 6:29pm
post #502 of 759
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Originally Posted by racprops View Post

OK Have many checked the 2D to 3D converter system??

I find that I keep getting a left eye field that is warped, ann bends along the lower 1/3 of the picture to the right.

I have a call into tech support about this.

I have seen it on all the 3020s I have had so far.

Check and let me know if you see the same problem will you.

Rich

I checked mine with Jurassic Park and it worked ok.
post #503 of 759
Hi guys, I had a demonstration of the Epson 3020 and from 11' away noticed something on the screen and it was the screen door affect, must assume that this projector has that problem has any one else noticed it?????? my Sanyo VZ2000 a lcd no screen door at all..
post #504 of 759
Try turning off the auto Iris...
post #505 of 759
Epson LCD projectors will have a noticeable screen door effect up close. But should not be visible from a proper seating distance (i.e. 1.6x diagonal or further).

I have 20/30 eagle vision, and do not see any screen door whatsoever from 16ft seating distance. Move up much closer (half?), and I most definitely see it.

Look at the bright side, you must have excellent convergence and focus if you can make out each pixel clearly wink.gif
post #506 of 759
I don't see any screen door effect with my 5010 not unless I go really close to the screen, but that's the same as going up close to any large LCD screen, you will see the pixels. Something is wrong if you are seeing screen door on a HD PJ imo.
post #507 of 759
Anyone have their projector back about 18 feet? How does it look. That may be my only option because of a low beam in the middle of my ceiling. Even at 18 ft back it will be on the wall, not ceiling.
post #508 of 759
I would check the manual for the reach..

You can download it it is called plhc3020ug.pdf

And it looks fine...

Rich
post #509 of 759
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Originally Posted by GraceAdler View Post

Anyone have their projector back about 18 feet? How does it look. That may be my only option because of a low beam in the middle of my ceiling. Even at 18 ft back it will be on the wall, not ceiling.

I strongly advise you use Epson's Projector Calculator (http://www.epson.com/alf_upload/landing/distance-calculator/) I took a quick look and it shows that your minimum screen size is 114" at an 18 foot throw. If you are planning on a 120" then you should be OK smile.gif Another thing to consider is that the lens needs to be at the top of the screen to avoid keystone, so make sure your ceiling is high enough.
post #510 of 759
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Originally Posted by GraceAdler View Post

Anyone have their projector back about 18 feet? How does it look. That may be my only option because of a low beam in the middle of my ceiling. Even at 18 ft back it will be on the wall, not ceiling.

I have mine back 18.5 feet projected onto a 120" screen. It looks just fine to me. Of course, I replaced a
Very old Vidikron Model 60 projector with the 3020 which was from about 2005, so projectors have
Really improved since then.

Buz
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