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post #121 of 235
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Originally Posted by Nick Burns View Post

Making an appliance like this seems very intriguing.
DanPackMan - could you list your hardware build for your Foxconn?

Foxconn A3700 (this one)
4G DDR3 1333 RAM (pretty sure it was this one)
1 8G USB stick for the OS.

That is it. Installed OpenELEC 2.0 Fusion. I am borrowing my ADESSO ARC-1100 remote IR receiver from my main unit while I wait for EBAY delivery of an HP brand MCE receiver. I may move the OS from USB stick to a Class 10 SD card, but its not really necessary because it is working great as is, just a little slow doing library updates.

The only problem right now is a little quirkiness with wake from suspend. I tried all the BIOS setting options and it does not work consistently and sometimes locks up. Will try again with new IR receiver, but at this point I disable wake from USB completely and use the power button when I am going to use it. Not a problem for me.

I have mine hardwired Ethernet, so I have not used the wireless connection, can't tell you how well it works.
Edited by DanPackMan - 11/7/12 at 5:05am
post #122 of 235
Just ordered an Asus GT 520 silent nvidia card to add to my system. I need that HD Audio.
post #123 of 235
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Originally Posted by Radio81 View Post

Just ordered an Asus GT 520 silent nvidia card to add to my system. I need that HD Audio.

Does OpenELEC now do HD Audio in XBMC?
post #124 of 235
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Does OpenELEC now do HD Audio in XBMC?

In the development/nightly builds HD Audio is now supported, but only with Nvidia cards.
post #125 of 235
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Originally Posted by acejh1987 View Post

In the development/nightly builds HD Audio is now supported, but only with Nvidia cards.

With OpenELEC? Hmm. Interesting. Too bad it doesn't work with an APU or iGPU. Buying a discrete card hurts the pocketbook just to get HD Audio.
post #126 of 235
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

With OpenELEC? Hmm. Interesting. Too bad it doesn't work with an APU or iGPU. Buying a discrete card hurts the pocketbook just to get HD Audio.

Yes the latest OpenELEC nightly builds (Based on Frodo)
There are experimental Intel Drivers that supposedly some people have got working with HD audio , AMD definitely doesn't work though.
post #127 of 235
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Originally Posted by acejh1987 View Post

Yes the latest OpenELEC nightly builds (Based on Frodo)
There are experimental Intel Drivers that supposedly some people have got working with HD audio , AMD definitely doesn't work though.
Do you know where I can find the change logs for the nightly builds?

I initially tried the RPi OE2.0 stable build but couldn't see my HDHomeRun adaptors. I tried a nightly from a few days ago and viola, there they were. Of course now I need to figure out the rest of the puzzle smile.gif

Thanks.
post #128 of 235
I was playing around with OE (2.0 stable on my i7-3770s box), I'd played a lot of 1080p content which seemed OK, but last night I tried DVD, well technically 480i MPEG-2 MKV from a DVD using MakeMKV, and it was pretty horrible. The picture was noticeably softer than using my SageTV HD300 with native (480i in this case) output to my AVM50V's video processor, but the bigger issue is the playback was not smooth at all. The only way I can describe it is it "surged", it would be smooth, and then speed up for a half a second or something, and then slow down again. That's pretty much unusable IMO. Any thoughts?
post #129 of 235
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

With OpenELEC? Hmm. Interesting. Too bad it doesn't work with an APU or iGPU. Buying a discrete card hurts the pocketbook just to get HD Audio.

If you’re like me and can’t stand having your audio down-mixed to stereo and then having to use Dolby PLIIz to matrix it back to your surround and center channels, the $60 I spent on the card is worth it. Especially when there is talk of AMD never having HD audio support with OpenElec. Honestly, I probably could have spent $30 on a cheap card that would have been sufficient, but I wanted a fan-less card, and also wanted to stick with Asus. Oh, and this card is similar to one of the cards listed on the "supported hardware" of the OpenElec wiki, so I have no doubts that this card will work just fine.

It’s still cheaper than buying an intel mobo & cpu (which I did consider doing), and it keeps me from having to go back to using Win7 + XBMC.
post #130 of 235
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Originally Posted by stanger89 View Post

I was playing around with OE (2.0 stable on my i7-3770s box), I'd played a lot of 1080p content which seemed OK, but last night I tried DVD, well technically 480i MPEG-2 MKV from a DVD using MakeMKV, and it was pretty horrible. The picture was noticeably softer than using my SageTV HD300 with native (480i in this case) output to my AVM50V's video processor, but the bigger issue is the playback was not smooth at all. The only way I can describe it is it "surged", it would be smooth, and then speed up for a half a second or something, and then slow down again. That's pretty much unusable IMO. Any thoughts?

Is hardware acceleration on? What about refresh rate changing?
post #131 of 235
I'm pretty sure DXVA is on, and no I didn't turn refresh rate switching on, it's set to 1080p60 for now.
post #132 of 235
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Originally Posted by stanger89 View Post

I'm pretty sure DXVA is on, and no I didn't turn refresh rate switching on, it's set to 1080p60 for now.

Try turning off hardware acceleration. It's pointless for a i7-3770 anyways.
post #133 of 235
What do you get for deinterlacing without DXVA on? From my experience software deinterlacing is crap.
post #134 of 235
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Originally Posted by stanger89 View Post

What do you get for deinterlacing without DXVA on? From my experience software deinterlacing is crap.

I honestly don't know. I watch very little interlaced content. It's worth at least figuring out if hardware acceleration is causing your issues.
post #135 of 235
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

Try turning off hardware acceleration. It's pointless for a i7-3770 anyways.

Same result with VAAPI turned off, except the deinterlacing is worse.
post #136 of 235
before I go through effort to install etc - does this version output 23.976 correctly on Nvidia and/or AMD ?

I used to like Linux version of XBMC - but even after faffing around trying to tweak at command level - I ouldn't get it to auto-switch to correct 23.976 like I can in windows version with no tweaking

was quite a while back though
post #137 of 235
That new Nvidia card did the trick. Once I put the card in and got the case back together, I had to find which OE build I needed, so I grabbed what seemed to be the latest daily/nightly Generic i386 build. I was hoping to find an x64 build, but no luck. So I just used the i386 build and installed it. After that, I went into the bios, set the video output to the nvidia card instead of the onboard ati, and then booted to OE with the saved changes once I swapped the hdmi cable to the new card.

I now have pass-through options for every type of encoded audio surround format. One thing I did notice, is that Nvidia has a ton more video hardware acceleration options than my AMD had. Anyone with nvidia mind posting their video playback settings? I think I enabled every available hardware acceleration option, along with A/V sync. There is just a bit (10 seconds or so) of stutter and choppiness for the first video played after first booting to OpenElec, and if I fast-forward, it also stutters a bit on resume, but only for a few seconds. I didn’t have these instances with the x64 Fusion build I used previously.

I am overall stoked now that I have my surround sound pass-through options once again. If I knew how to compile a build of my own, I would make an x64 Fusion build with Nvidia card drivers included. Oh well, this will do for now, and I am very happy that all my media can be played with OpenElec just as it did in Win7.
post #138 of 235
^Thats good news Radio81. Now you can enjoy it. I just "introduced" my OpenELEC build to the wife and kids for official usage. So far so good.
post #139 of 235
What 'tablet' remotes are people using for OpenELEC? I tried using Constellation (which worked fine using XBMCUntu) without any luck. I haven't tried the official XBMC Android remote on my phone yet, I would prefer something like Constellation for my iPad.
post #140 of 235
The official Android remote doesn't work right now, but Tom Briden's apk works. I've used it, and everything is working https://github.com/tombriden/android-xbmcremote/downloads

However, I just recently tried Yatse instead of the "Tom Briden" official remote, and I'd recommend going with Yatse. For some reason, it's way faster at loading thumbnails.

The "remote" portion of the Official Remote also looks like complete junk. It's as if they took a 50x50 1kB picture to use for the display. That doesn't look so good on a tablet or my GNex when it's stretched to 720p. The Yatse remote does look better on the screen. As far as the "remote" only portion, both apps were very responsive.

Also, don't know if anyone else had this problem, but I couldn't get them to work at all until I installed bonjour. (I normally don't install any apple software, but it was required for a different android app) Until I stumbled upon this fix, I would always get the Remote Connection Failed to start, error on 192.168.X.X:8080/xbmcremote . . .
post #141 of 235
The stock Android XBMC Remote on my Asus Tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich works for me on my OpenELEC box. Its a nice tool, particularly for music selection. The remote response is surprisingly snappy.
post #142 of 235
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

The official Android remote doesn't work right now, but Tom Briden's apk works. I've used it, and everything is working https://github.com/tombriden/android-xbmcremote/downloads
However, I just recently tried Yatse instead of the "Tom Briden" official remote, and I'd recommend going with Yatse. For some reason, it's way faster at loading thumbnails.
The "remote" portion of the Official Remote also looks like complete junk. It's as if they took a 50x50 1kB picture to use for the display. That doesn't look so good on a tablet or my GNex when it's stretched to 720p. The Yatse remote does look better on the screen. As far as the "remote" only portion, both apps were very responsive.
Also, don't know if anyone else had this problem, but I couldn't get them to work at all until I installed bonjour. (I normally don't install any apple software, but it was required for a different android app) Until I stumbled upon this fix, I would always get the Remote Connection Failed to start, error on 192.168.X.X:8080/xbmcremote . . .

+1 for Yatse. Absolutely fantastic program that improves upon the official XBMC remote app in every way (at least the official XBMC remote from a few months back). The developer is amazingly responsive to comments and suggestions too. Yatse is only for Android though. With iOS I know there is the official XBMC remote, Constellation, and Commander, but I'm not sure what else.
post #143 of 235
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

The stock Android XBMC Remote on my Asus Tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich works for me on my OpenELEC box. Its a nice tool, particularly for music selection. The remote response is surprisingly snappy.

Your referring to Team-XBMC's "Official XBMC Remote" from the play store? I couldn't get that to work on my GNex running Jelly Bean or my niece's Asus tablet running ICS, but Yatse and the Tom Briden version of the "Official XBMC Remote" worked on both. Actually, the navigation (up, left, title, play, stop, etc) worked fine, but it wouldn't load my Movie, TV Shows, and Music libraries.

Maybe they finally updated the Play Store app
post #144 of 235
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

+1 for Yatse. Absolutely fantastic program that improves upon the official XBMC remote app in every way (at least the official XBMC remote from a few months back). The developer is amazingly responsive to comments and suggestions too. Yatse is only for Android though. With iOS I know there is the official XBMC remote, Constellation, and Commander, but I'm not sure what else.

I noticed a lot of feedback and a hefty changelog for Yatse

The only small thing I have to say about it, which might be something I'm doing wrong . . . , is that after I close the app (and remove it from my recent apps) I still have the last played show in my lockscreen. It was still there after I left the house smile.gif

To get rid of it, I just opened the music player and started a track, which replaced the lockscreen image with the cover art of the track I played.

Do you have the same thing happen?
post #145 of 235
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

Your referring to Team-XBMC's "Official XBMC Remote" from the play store? I couldn't get that to work on my GNex running Jelly Bean or my niece's Asus tablet running ICS, but Yatse and the Tom Briden version of the "Official XBMC Remote" worked on both. Actually, the navigation (up, left, title, play, stop, etc) worked fine, but it wouldn't load my Movie, TV Shows, and Music libraries.
Maybe they finally updated the Play Store app

I am using the official XBMC Remote, V0.8.8-beta1, Revision 808

Can't remember when I installed it, it was at least a few months back.

All the library functions work for music and video.

Using OpenELEC 2
post #146 of 235
Have you considered, attempted or talked with anyone re: a mobile implementation of this?

I'm no EE, but I did a really nice custom car audio system build last year. I'd love to build one of these with a SSD for audio/video storage.

I'm looking also at doing a raspberry pi build, but I'm more of a Windows guy than a linux guy, although I could probably get through it and get it working, it's frustrating when things get deep and you need to troubleshoot - relying more on others for the expertise.

The pi is a less expensive option of course, and I hear the linux builds of XBMC are a bit more stable, but it sounds like you have no complaints.

With a DC supply I would think there would be a need for power stabilization or something.

Anyway, very interested in any thoughts you may have on the subject, and/or references to anyone who has tried a mobile version of this project.
post #147 of 235
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Originally Posted by deraeler View Post

Have you considered, attempted or talked with anyone re: a mobile implementation of this?

I'm no EE, but I did a really nice custom car audio system build last year. I'd love to build one of these with a SSD for audio/video storage.

I'm looking also at doing a raspberry pi build, but I'm more of a Windows guy than a linux guy, although I could probably get through it and get it working, it's frustrating when things get deep and you need to troubleshoot - relying more on others for the expertise.

The pi is a less expensive option of course, and I hear the linux builds of XBMC are a bit more stable, but it sounds like you have no complaints.

With a DC supply I would think there would be a need for power stabilization or something.

Anyway, very interested in any thoughts you may have on the subject, and/or references to anyone who has tried a mobile version of this project.

There is an Android version of XBMC available

I think it could handle just about anything thrown at it on a Nexus 10 (reportedly the quad Exynos can software decode 1080p)

It also supports pogo pin charging and audio out

Make a nice molded holder with the POGO pin connections and your customers could pop either a Nexus 7 or Nexus 10 in and out of their vehicle (anti-theft and it's nice to keep it with you)
post #148 of 235
I wish there was an official guide to installed or making an appliance like XBMC machine without needing to install windows.

I have a couple older machines that would make good extenders but I never get around to messing around with it because I am lazy.
post #149 of 235
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I wish there was an official guide to installed or making an appliance like XBMC machine without needing to install windows.

I have a couple older machines that would make good extenders but I never get around to messing around with it because I am lazy.

Installing - http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installation

Different Builds - http://openelec.tv/get-openelec
Edited by cburbs - 2/8/13 at 11:21am
post #150 of 235
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

Foxconn A3700 (this one)
4G DDR3 1333 RAM (pretty sure it was this one)
1 8G USB stick for the OS.

That is it. Installed OpenELEC 2.0 Fusion. I am borrowing my ADESSO ARC-1100 remote IR receiver from my main unit while I wait for EBAY delivery of an HP brand MCE receiver. I may move the OS from USB stick to a Class 10 SD card, but its not really necessary because it is working great as is, just a little slow doing library updates.

The only problem right now is a little quirkiness with wake from suspend. I tried all the BIOS setting options and it does not work consistently and sometimes locks up. Will try again with new IR receiver, but at this point I disable wake from USB completely and use the power button when I am going to use it. Not a problem for me.

I have mine hardwired Ethernet, so I have not used the wireless connection, can't tell you how well it works.

How loud is the fan in that Foxconn?
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