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Yamaha RX-V673BL or Pioneer SC-1222-K

post #1 of 16
10/15/12 at 4:47pm
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Greetings!

Need a new receiver with modern features, network support, and upconversion. Don't need a lot of wattage, and don't need booming bass. I just need something that will connect and switch Apple devices, TV cable box, PS3, Xbox, and my various other video gadgets . I especially don't want to get tangled in unexpected restrictions like "input A can only be played thru output B, and only every other Thursday"....

I have been reading relevant posts and reviews, and learned enough to understand these models are pretty good.

They are both are "on special" on various outlets, so this is a "value" question:

Yamaha RX-V673BL @ $420
..or
Pioneer SC-1222-K @ $600

TIA
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post #2 of 16
10/18/12 at 11:55am
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Anyone?
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post #3 of 16
10/30/12 at 5:37am
Where did you see the V673BL for $420? The cheapest I've seen it was $599.99. I'm trying to decide between the V673BL and the Pioneer VSX-1122-k. I can get the 1122 for $450 at Best Buy by price matching newegg.com price, but I had a bad experience with the VSX-1022-k, and I'm wondering if it would be a mistake to go with the Pioneer. However, the $450 price isn't bad.
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post #4 of 16
10/30/12 at 6:43am
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Newegg had a 72-hour coupon for 30% off, that made it $420, but it's no longer valid.
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post #5 of 16
10/30/12 at 6:48am
Which AVR did you end up getting if you don't mind me asking?
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post #6 of 16
10/30/12 at 7:04am
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Because I am a dummy, I failed to pull the trigger in time for that coupon, so now I am still looking and hoping for another special or a coupon somewhere. Meantime, I have been scouring the web for reviews and feedback, and I think I'll stick with Yamaha.
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post #7 of 16
11/3/12 at 5:12pm
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Pulled the trigger.. V673BL is on special (with gift card) at Newegg for $389 shipped. Yay!
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post #8 of 16
11/3/12 at 7:33pm
$389? I see it as $599 then you get a $210 gift card. Do they let you subtract the giftcard amount from the initial price or something?
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post #9 of 16
11/3/12 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by DirectSelect View Post

$389? I see it as $599 then you get a $210 gift card. Do they let you subtract the giftcard amount from the initial price or something?

No, you get the gift card and use it for speakers, wire, etc smile.gif
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post #10 of 16
11/3/12 at 8:10pm
That's what I figured, which is why I was curious about the $389 shipped number.

Might jump on this deal as well.
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post #11 of 16
4/17/13 at 11:52am
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That's what I figured, which is why I was curious about the $389 shipped number.

Might jump on this deal as well.

Well I'm definitely not going to spend $200 gift card money on wires. But Amazon has it for $399. Got one!
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post #12 of 16
4/25/13 at 7:01pm
I had the Yamaha rx-v673 for a week and I returned it. Features were good, I liked YPAO and the sound quality produced was good. But I returned it. Here's why. It can only produce 90 watts per channel at 8 ohms and is not rated for 4 ohms. It would've been fried if I connected my Polk LSI15s. I purchased the Open box Pioneer SC-1222 on Newegg for $479 shipped. Here's why. The SC-1222 has Class D3 Amps which are way more powerful that the Yammy's amps and it produces 130 watts per channel at 8 ohms. More Importantly it is rated at 190 watts per channel at 4 Ohms. Now that's raw power to run the PolkLSI15 speakers which are power hoggers but beasts when it comes to sound quality. And the Pioneer SC-1222 has pre outs so you can connect an amplifier. I don't remember if the Yammy has Pre outs.

Why would you pay close to $400 for a Yammy when you can get a Pioneer that literally can power most high end speakers for $479 ( roughlty $439 + $38 tax +$1.99 shipping). Hope this helps.
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post #13 of 16
4/25/13 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by peerguy View Post

I had the Yamaha rx-v673 for a week and I returned it. Features were good, I liked YPAO and the sound quality produced was good. But I returned it. Here's why. It can only produce 90 watts per channel at 8 ohms and is not rated for 4 ohms. It would've been fried if I connected my Polk LSI15s. I purchased the Open box Pioneer SC-1222 on Newegg for $479 shipped. Here's why. The SC-1222 has Class D3 Amps which are way more powerful that the Yammy's amps and it produces 130 watts per channel at 8 ohms. More Importantly it is rated at 190 watts per channel at 4 Ohms. Now that's raw power to run the PolkLSI15 speakers which are power hoggers but beasts when it comes to sound quality. And the Pioneer SC-1222 has pre outs so you can connect an amplifier. I don't remember if the Yammy has Pre outs.

Why would you pay close to $400 for a Yammy when you can get a Pioneer that literally can power most high end speakers for $479 ( roughlty $439 + $38 tax +$1.99 shipping). Hope this helps.

what you fail to realize is that pioneer rates the power at 1khz instead of full bandwidth...so those numbers are inflated. reciever power is reciever power....that pioneer might have 10-15watts per channel more if your lucky. yea the pioneer is 4ohm stable, so that might be a benifit. did you try the lsi15's on the 673 before returning it?
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post #14 of 16
4/26/13 at 4:43am
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what you fail to realize is that pioneer rates the power at 1khz instead of full bandwidth...so those numbers are inflated. reciever power is reciever power....that pioneer might have 10-15watts per channel more if your lucky. yea the pioneer is 4ohm stable, so that might be a benifit. did you try the lsi15's on the 673 before returning it?

Agree with your post. But 15 watts per channel more is a lot of difference. And the pioneer is rated for 4 ohms at 190 watts per channel. Receiver power is receiver power. Atleast it won't get fried by the the LSI15s. And no I didn't dare connect my LSI15s to the Yammy. I had intentions to return the Yammy and get my money back.

I know I need an amplifier but I can run the LSIs on the pioneer till budget is put aside for one. Well $79 is not a lot of money for the peace of mind that the receiver won't get fried..
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post #15 of 16
4/26/13 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by peerguy View Post

Agree with your post. But 15 watts per channel more is a lot of difference. And the pioneer is rated for 4 ohms at 190 watts per channel. Receiver power is receiver power. Atleast it won't get fried by the the LSI15s. And no I didn't dare connect my LSI15s to the Yammy. I had intentions to return the Yammy and get my money back.

I know I need an amplifier but I can run the LSIs on the pioneer till budget is put aside for one. Well $79 is not a lot of money for the peace of mind that the receiver won't get fried..

15 watts per channel is literally nothing and won't make any difference. Especially in real world listening as opposed to how receviers are spec'd.
Edited by nodnerb - 4/26/13 at 6:15am
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post #16 of 16
6/14/13 at 12:30pm
it's not just about 15 watts more. my friend have Yammy 675 and LSI15, went pretty hot when playing loud. I lend her my SC-1522-k (Costo deal of course), it stayed cool with even higher volume.
But of course that doesn't mean the Pioneer is better than Yammy, or class D is better than class A/B, but in case of 4 ohms speakers, there is not much of receivers under $1000 to choose from, unless you go with pre-out and amp without budget concern.
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