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how to slice & dice a recording & put it back together??

post #1 of 15
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I have a program recorded on my panny e80h (its a copy from a dvd family home movie that was put together in the wrong order.)
sooooooo I want to divide the program up & put it back in order.
now my brain hurts thinking of how to do this.....

I can divide it ok & then figure to dub it onto a dvd-ram OR a dvd-r.
here is where I am stuck.
so I do not lose any quality what do i do?
do I stick it in a player & then copy it back onto the hdd (recording the whole time while playing the disk) & then shorten the program into one?
or is there a way to copy it from the dvd-r back onto the HDD?

OR ....I have another hdd recorder, do I hook those 2 together (somehow?)

want the best quality..

any suggestions?
post #2 of 15

I can't remember whether the E80 had the playlist creation capability. I'm guessing it doesn't? But since you have another hdd recorder (what brand/model?), you can connect the E80 to it, and record your home movie to it in SP mode, in the order that you need.

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
okidoki.
uh whats a playlist?

i have done bare minimum over the years with this recorder. pretty much record a tv program take out the commercials & then burn it to a dvd.

just looked at the manuel & it says it has playlist capabilities.

so explain what all this is & how this will help.

as to copying it over to the 2nd hdd player, I wasn't sure how to get the best quality by doing this, if I can't find an s-cable, is a component good enough?
the quality of the program is stretched to "good" at best, I didn't want any more degration.

thanks for the help
post #4 of 15

Good then. The Playlist feature allows you to construct a 'virtual' video program from the recorded material on the hdd. The contents of the original program are not altered or physically edited. This permits you to edit out segments without affecting the original recording. For instance, you place chapter markers around commercial breaks, and then use playlists to isolate the recorded show by selecting the chapters that contain the show. The final playlists plays the program without those commercials (or other unwanted segments). You can high speed dub that playlist to RAM or -R, sans those deleted segments.

 

My old E85 allowed me to place segmented chapters in whatever order that I wished. I'll assume that the E80 can do the same. You can even create a playlist culling chunks from different recorded programs on the hdd--though note, you will not be able to high speed dub such a playlists if the record mode of those different programs are all different (meaning, if you recorded one episode of NCIS in SP mode, and another in LP mode, while you can create a playlist combining both of those episodes, a dubbing of that playlist will be in real time-the length of the combined material, and not a high speed dub that would last 10-15 mins).

 

So your playlist creation process would be

-Highlight the home movie on the hdd.

-click Sub menu

-click View chapter

-the program appears in a window and starts playing. Place chapter markers at the points where you would want segments to be reordered.

-Exit the chapter workspace by pressing Return.

-Remember the number this program occupies on the hdd (program number 1, 2, 3, etc)

 

Enter the Playlist UI by pressing Function

-look for playlists (you may need to press sub menu to locate Create Playlist-it's been a long while, I miss my Panny E85, going on memory here)

-Once in Playlists, click add Chapter in order to load the program into the playlist. The menu will present a row featuring all recorded shows on the drive. Scroll to the number your home movie is and press Enter to load it. Press Return to back out of this screen and return to Playlist UI.

 

Now back under Playlists, the single playlist you've created should be there and already highlighted.

-press Sub menu and click

-There, you'll see all the thumbnails for the chapters you've made. Highlight one you want moved, and press Sub menu. Look for ''Move chapter''or something similar. It should be highlighted, and use the arrow buttons to move it to the position you want. You can rearrange them all in the order you wish. Exit by pressing Return, taking you back to Playlists.

-Play it to see i you have things where you want them. You can ff, or II> skip ahead while playing, to quickly check how it looks.

 

The playlist will remain on the hdd, as long as the original program is on the drive. If you delete the original, the Playlist version will be removed.

 

Whew. LOL. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. There are still a few long time Panny users here, who love going over this kind of stuff.

post #5 of 15
Your E80 does support playlists. From page 30 in the manual:
Quote:
[HDD] [RAM]
Specify start and end points to create scenes, then specify the order
in which they are to be played. These scenes are not recorded separately
so this doesn’t use much capacity.

This is specifically what you are describing you want to do in your original post...
Quote:
I have a program recorded on my panny e80h (its a copy from a dvd family home movie that was put together in the wrong order.)
sooooooo I want to divide the program up & put it back in order.

Look in the manual on pages 30-33 on how to use playlists. I have had an E85, EH50, EH55, and so on, and they all use playlists the same way. I think that the E80 had a somewhat more primitive interface, though still as functional. Once you figure it out, it's pretty easy and straightforward--and effective. smile.gif
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
ok, I quickly glanced at your instructions ( THANK YOU)
I think I may do this also on a dvd-ram, since I have about 200 program snippets still on the panny ( yea I know , I gotta burn them). and all those new numbers could be confusing (ok, so maybe not after I get comfy with it)

ok after I have all this done with the chapters, how do I burn this to a dvd to play it in other players?
I seem to be missing some part of this, I read the manual also.


everyone started out not knowing all this ... I keep reminding myself.
post #7 of 15
One other point, it often helps (espically with complex tasks that I seem to be doing more and more of) to keep a pad of paper with the chapter numbers on it and what order to place them for your finished product.

As far as use goes, I would recommend you play with it a bit and the whole process will become clearer.

On page 28, section 4 circle 3 it describes how to select a playlist for dubbing.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

One other point, it often helps (espically with complex tasks that I seem to be doing more and more of) to keep a pad of paper with the chapter numbers on it and what order to place them for your finished product.
As far as use goes, I would recommend you play with it a bit and the whole process will become clearer.
On page 28, section 4 circle 3 it describes how to select a playlist for dubbing.



thank you.
another probably stupid question.
so when I dub the playlist it all stitches together seamlessly , like all I did was shorten a program?

I am sure there are a lot of things that I should have looked into tongue.gif I probably would have had more fun with it..
I read these BIG manuals for running things & think sheesh do I need to do all of that? but there ae probably neat things that can be done.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
well dang. still having problems.
tried following the directions.
when I highlight the program on the HDD nothing pops up when I hit any menus.. including the playlist /menu button.

if I hit stop & then hit the playlist button, it brings up the playlist screen, but the only program that shows up is the number one on the list ( MY program I want is # 55).

ok this should not be that hard..

what am i missing? does this only work if its the ONLY thing on the hdd? or the first?
post #10 of 15
Quote:
if I hit stop & then hit the playlist button, it brings up the playlist screen, but the only program that shows up is the number one on the list ( MY program I want is # 55).

You can either scroll across to reach program #55, or press the number keys 55, then enter to get to it. You then press Enter again to select the highlighted title (the selected title will now appear in the bottom row onscreen), then Return to exit that menu, and go back to the Playlist menu.

post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
ok,duh,
had to fast forward thru 54 programs . still working on this.......
post #12 of 15
Quote:
ok,duh,
had to fast forward thru 54 programs . still working on this.......

Youch! eek.gif

You sould be able to either select a program directly (entering the numbers like Westly said) or using the "skip buttons" circle 6 on page 12 of the manual to move ahead. You should NOT have to fast forward through 54 programs to get to title 55!
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Youch! eek.gif
You sould be able to either select a program directly (entering the numbers like Westly said) or using the "skip buttons" circle 6 on page 12 of the manual to move ahead. You should NOT have to fast forward through 54 programs to get to title 55!

i had tried punching numbers in..no go,, but could have done it wrong:rolleyes:
anyway I got some kind of list going, but looking at it i still have to divide a couple more i missed, hope I can do that easily.


I don't know the idiot who put this together but they should be shot! somehow they took 2 dif years of xmas & alternated pieces of it! how on earth did that happen? there is also a few repeats on the disk.

after this is done I'll practice again.

thanks.....biggrin.gif
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
wow!
biggrin.gif

you guys are good.

I finally got this all together the way I wanted. I never thought of looking at the stupid manual to see if there was something else I could do besides the "shorten Program" that I have been using.
the Playlist feature was exactly what I needed... way less time also in what I thought I had to do.
reallly nice feature.
now am not sure what I will ever use it for again , as this is the only time I needed such a thing in 5 years. but nice to know its there.

now.. got another question, which since its not exactly avs stuff maybe you can point me in the right direction?
since the dvd is now chopped up & rearranged. the music is screwed///.
so the only way to add music is if I do this on a computer, right? ( which I never have)
can you suggest a program to do this, & where to get "dummie" instructions , like you guys offered up here?

thanks!!smile.gif
post #15 of 15
Quote:
reallly nice feature.
now am not sure what I will ever use it for again , as this is the only time I needed such a thing in 5 years. but nice to know its there.

Now that you know it's there, you WILL find additional ways to use this feature. I use it all the time, and am still finding new ways to use it.
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