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post #1 of 15
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hey guys , lookin to upgrade my surround system. Rite now i have an onkyo HT-S3400 and im not really too happy with the sound quality in my basement especially when i listening to music. I read alot of good reviews on the 800 and wanna hear from you guys also...im not no audiophile but im looking for something better than the HT-S3400 and i have my eyes on the 800 ..just wanna hear you guys opinions if the 800 will sound good in my 1200 sq ft basement...Also what would be a good reciever for the 800?? my budget on a reciever is 250-300. Heres a view of my basement setup so you guys can see how far my speakers are from sitting... Thanks guys!
post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 
anyone?
post #3 of 15
You can probably continue to use the receiver from your HTIB and spend more on the speakers.

If you can afford ProMonitor 1000 for FR and FL and ProCenter 200 for C and ProMonitor 800 for RR and RL, and buy a sub other than the ProCinema package - you would be better off.

Also, if you can mount as many speakers as possible at ear height instead of at ceiling and pointing down, that would be an improvement. It looks like your FR, FL and RR could do that.

The ProCinema 800 package would be nicer - but saving a bit more and doing as i suggested would be a much bigger step up for you.
post #4 of 15
As an up front disclaimer, I have never heard the pro cinema 800...What has always bothered me about the Pro Cinema 800 is the $1,200.00 MSRP price tag is a lot spend for a system with a mediocre subwoofer and 6 4.5 inch midrange drivers (don't get me wrong, I like Definitive Technology speakers!). I have seen the system going for as low as $799.00.
IF...IF new egg has the Def Tech SM450 for around 200-300 dollars per pair again anytime soon, get 2 pairs of those (let say 500 dollars), the matching center ($250) and you got 300-400 dollars to spend on a good subwoofer or save for a great subwoofer (HSU, SVS, etc)
post #5 of 15
For your left and right front speakers, you really want to avoid having those mounted to the ceiling, and get them closer to ear level. For the surrounds, you typcailly want the tweeter at ear level when standing.

For the money I would get these Pro1000's for your mains:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-1000-Speaker-BBNDKA-/190644675513?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2c634ee3b9

With this matching center:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-Technology-ProCenter1000-Speaker-BBNDIA-/180753161113?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2a15ba5b99

The the 800's for surrounds:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-800-Speaker-BBNDHA-/190687206753?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2c65d7dd61

This puts you at $775 for your speakers.

I agree, keep your current receiver and save the money towards a better subwoofer than the Deftech. What is your total budget?

Another option:
Two of these for left and right main:
http://www.amazon.com/NHT-Absolute-Bookshelf-Speaker-Single/dp/B000BYNP7K/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1350419798&sr=1-2&keywords=nht

Two of these for surrounds:
http://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperZero-2-0-Monitor-Speaker/dp/B0049FA1TM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350419795&sr=8-1&keywords=nht

This center:
http://www.amazon.com/NHT-Absolute-Center-Channel-Piano-Gloss/dp/B001G9ME8K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350419890&sr=8-1&keywords=nht+center

Your total is about $900 shipped and then you need a sub, but NHT is excellent.

Very solid for music and TV viewing.

One option to save money but give you solid music performance. Two pairs of these:
http://www.svsound.com/speakers/s-series/sbs-02#.UH3GQ2fs-Ik

This center:
http://www.svsound.com/speakers/s-series/sbs-02#.UH3GQ2fs-Ik

These are all on a huge sale. So $400 total and then get a nice SVS SB12 subwoofer. All for around $1000 shipped:
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb12-nsd
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks for the much needed info guys... I believe someone on here said I can't use the ht 3400 receiver...
post #7 of 15
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thanks for the much needed info guys... I believe someone on here said I can't use the ht 3400 receiver...

Yes I would. It is a good receiver and you can put the savings toward speaker/sub combo.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Im thinking of goin with your suggestions rick.... now what sub would you guys recommend??
post #9 of 15
Just as a comparison...a couple years ago, I bought the q line gold system. 5 pretty decent speakers, a crappy sub and an outdated av-rec for 400 dollars. The speakers each have two 4.5 inch Kevlar drivers and ribbon tweeters and I think would be superior to the speakers in the pro cinema 800. So for way less money than the pc 800, I got more driver, I think better quality drivers, better tweeters...and still those speakers were not able to fill my 500 sq ft room with better than average volume/dynamics. I fear the pc800 would struggle in your 1200 sq ft basement!
post #10 of 15
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Im thinking of goin with your suggestions rick.... now what sub would you guys recommend??

See what's left in the budget and then check threads in the subwoofer forum.

That said...

- if your budget is $300, consider the PA-120

- if your budget is $550, consider the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus

Others are much more on top of what's on sale, etc - hence the recommendation to go to the subwoofer forum for that aspect
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
how bout the prosub 1000? I read some good reviews on that sub and itll match with my def tech speakers...what you guys think?
post #12 of 15
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how bout the prosub 1000? I read some good reviews on that sub and itll match with my def tech speakers...what you guys think?

I think the ones I suggested and the process I suggested is better than any of the ProSubs.

Some of the really expensive DefTech subs are pretty good, but pretty much in every case, there are better ones out there for the money.

There is no need to seek a "matching" sub. Really, the only way it will match is the name.
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
I think the pa-120 is more in my budget. You think its a better sub than the prosub 1000?
post #14 of 15
Depends on your budget. The PA-150 can usually be had for $350 shipped. I owned one and can tell you it is a monster in the 40-80hz range. It also looks very nice.
post #15 of 15
If you can upgrade to the 1000's do it. You will be happy
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