Dredd - Page 6

Just finished playing this, having learned how to select the 3D version from the main menu (after wasting 25 minutes on previews and ads I couldn't skip...*grumble grumble*). The 3D was pretty much how I remember seeing this in theaters, which is to say it was quite impressive, given the scale of the picture and how it translates on a smaller screen.

I have a Panny BDT-210 for 3D discs, and it usually warns me before playing a 3D title that way. I also get messages from my TV requiring my approval before I can continue. At least that way I know the systems are working properly. So far, all my 3D titles have played successfully in this thing, and Dredd was no exception.

I'm not implying voice command here. After it detects an non-3D player, it loads the 2D menu At least it did for me. Yeah, all the trailers with the menu button disabled is a pain, but I almost expect it these days.

Lighten up. I haven't called anyone names. It's all in good fun.

My 83 didn't mention the 3D or I wasn't paying attention.

What I often do is just insert the disk and switch to my DVR for 15 minutes or go get a beverage or food or do something like that.
Although I do have a BD95, I don't have a display for 3D yet.
This spring I'll buy my first FP....and it will be 3D capable.

Projectors are where it's at, especially if you have a dedicated, light controlled room.

I have a real man-cave, so light isn't a problem.

Thinking of the Sony, but haven't made up my mind quite yet.
I need to see one in action before deciding.

Good stuff Oink

And you don't run a front projection system? Ugh! C'mon Oink! Get with it!

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You are going to LOVE it. What size screen?
Edited by GoCaboNow - 1/18/13 at 11:22am

Always have had large RPTVs, because.....
I have looked at FPs over the years, but haven't been terribly impressed.

Frankly, the primary reason for going to a FP is easy of mobility.
Hauling a large DLP between houses is getting old (a result of getting old).

I am not sure yet...probably around 90 inches or so.

That's funny, because until 3 months ago, my main 'TV watching' TV was a 27" Sony Wega I'm on my second projector in about 8 years. Once you get yours installed, especially with 3D, you'll never look back.

I hear ya. Although this really hasn't been the case for at least 5 or more years now. Unless you're a seriously picky videophile, there should be lots of choices on the market for you at every price range. Let me know if you need some help picking out a model.


This. With a home projection system, you just have to see it from your seat just once and I guaranteed you'll be sold on it.

Short-ish very true story. My father a couple years ago had a nice Mitsubishi DLP RPTV 65" start dying. This was for his bedroom and he loved the picture quality of it (his first 1080p set) and the size but it was time to dump it. We looked all around and the choice was between a rather pricey LCD or Plasma. He didn't want to go with another RPTV. LCD's were a bit meh and the plasmas were very nice but at around 65" were going to be thousands of dollars and neither choice looked great aside from picture quality. We knew he would hate a smaller tv so I joked that he should just get a projector like I have. He was very apprehensive to the idea. Didn't like the idea of a projector over his bed or something to that effect. The situation was perfect for a projector though. The wall were he had the tv was completely empty and he had one of those headboards for his bed that had storage and a flat top, just big enough to fit a projector. I said, "hey, borrow my Panasonic for the weekend. Just try it and see if you like the projection for your room.". All I had to do was bring it in, install and turn it on. Big blue Panasonic splashscreen was about 100" and I blew it up to ~140". He was like, "wow!". I hadn't even plugged in the cable box or BD player yet. Turned on the cable box and it was just cable news and he was floored.

Semi-long story short, within maybe a couple hours (maybe less) he was online ordering himself an Epson 1080p projector and still is running it now. He loves it and would never go back.

I wouldn't either in my room and I use an AT screen I built myself so that makes a big difference for me.

I watch many movies from my front row at about 10.5' and 133" screen. No screen door, great hidef fill rate/clarity.
You have probably heard this before but get your PJ before the screen and project on your wall, or sheet, for a week or so and then decide how big.


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i've watched this a couple of times now... i have an old BD-30 that hasn't had its firmware updated in over a year and i have yet to find a movie this thing can't play. Threw in Dredd, it told me i didn't have 3d capability, then proceeded to play the 2d version... After feeling unimpressed by the 3d in the theatres, i definitely missed it watching the 2d version.

Thank you.

A couple of things have turned me off in the past: lack of color "pop" and relatively low contrast.

I need great black levels and high lumen output....I can't settle for less.
DLP RPTVs can deliver this in spades.

Actually, I had not.
Thanx for the tip.

It's good advice. I started with at 92" screen. At the time, I wondered if I was going too far. It didn't take long before I thought about going larger.

Currently, my Mits. RPTV is 73 inches, but I can see where something around 90 would work in the rooms I use in my houses as HTs.
I don't want a situation where I am having to turn me head to catch everything happening on screen.

At this point in time, I don't need or can accommodate a 120" screen.
IF I was to get a bigger home....yeah, I could see something bigger.

Originally Posted by oink 

Get a bigger house and a 120" screen, problem solved. You're welcome.

Once you go FP Oink, there is no going back. How much performance you get out of your front projector though largely depends on your room and how much effort you put into light control. The best thing any FP owner can do is black out their room as much as possible and the further you take it, the better the picture. The difference between watching a FP in a typical room with light/white ceiling, walls , floor, etc......and a room well treated for light control is drastic.

I just calibrated my RS45 yesterday on my 9' wide HP 2.8 screen in a black pit of a room (black velvet and/or paint on floor, ceiling, side walls, etc.....). Threw on 'Samsara' last night and it was one of the most impressive and engaging PQ/viewing experiences of my life! I just recently installed a Panasonic VT50 65" for a family member and the calibrated 9' wide pic I am getting on my 45/HP is very close overall. Once you factor in the size, nobody would pick the VT50 in comparison as the PQ is close enough between the two. I keep bringing up this comparison because you could land a 45 or similar and a quality screen for about the same price as that 65" VT50. Again though, if you have a well lit up room, FP might not be the best option.

The other great thing about FP is 3d is MUCH more immersive on a big screen vs a flat panel. There is no comparison watching 3d on the 65" VT50 vs my 9' wide image.

What is your seating distance going to be in the rooms you mention?

Was going to watch Dredd 3d last night, but it got late.
Edited by Toe - 1/19/13 at 8:05am

I will PM you my mailing address (so you can send me the $$$ for me to do so ).

Both rooms are blacked out.

That is very impressive!
The Panny is a superb display.

Approx. 12 ft.

I dont think you would find 12' from a 120" screen to big. You are at almost exactly a 1.4 screen width view distance with that scenario which is what I view my 2.35/40 material at (I am 12.5' from a 9' wide image on my 2.35 screen which means I am projecting a 126" diagonal 1.78 pic to get it) and I dont need to ever turn my head to catch things happening in a film. In fact, if I could go bigger I would, but I am at the limit of what I can put on my wall both vertically and horizontally due to room/speaker constraints. With 1080p, many prefer to shoot for an even closer view distance of ~1 screen width (even a bit less in some cases). Everyone is different as far as how close they like to sit of course, but I doubt you would find a 1.4x view distance too close at all.

Dont take my VT50 comment wrong as I would still give the pure PQ edge to that set over my JVC, but after doing my calibration yesterday, the pure PQ performance, especially with my nice bright HP 2.8 screen is not THAT far off. Once you factor in the size advantage, I just dont see anyone picking the VT overall if you have a nice light treated HT room. If you are a black level fanatic which is one of the big strengths of the VT sets obviously, the JVC is a natural comparison in the projector world with its industry leading native black level performance.

We are getting a bit off topic, but if you are interested there is a ton of great info in the projector forum and the forum member Zombie threads in particular. Lots of great projector choices right now for various budgets and viewing goals (do you watch mostly 2d, 3d, movies, sports, combo of all, etc...).
Edited by Toe - 1/19/13 at 9:57am

Sorry about going OT.
I'll cruise the FP forum....

Watched this a few nights ago and I had a HELL of a time getting this to play in 3d for some reason which has never happened on my Oppo 93. Finally got it working though and enjoyed it. Very good audio, but not reference IMO. 3d was solid, but nothing special and even a bit conservative at times. I thought the movie was good, but again nothing great. It was a fun diversion, but nothing more.

I sent an e-mail to Oppo support recently regarding the Judge Dredd Bluray showing up as "unknown disc" in my 103. Here is their response:

"We would recommend having the disc replaced. A disc which reports Unknown Disc sounds defective and will not load in our player.
We have seen a lot of reports of discs bought from Best Buy which are producing these errors across a wide range of players, including our own,
which have been resolved by replacing the disc or purchasing the disc at another location."

"Best regards,"

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.


And to add to that, I did buy the disc at Best Buy. I was auditioning a new SVS subwoofer and ran up there to grab something recent with strong bass soundtrack.

I posted this response over in the OPPO forum but thought it should be posted here also since it pertains to the Dredd disc itself. I've had a few people contact me
with questions about it but I know nothing more than what was in the OPPO reply.

I know Best Buy policy is exchange for identical title only but I have had some luck in the past getting them to bend that rule. Most recently with the "Total Recall" BD when I asked them to google
"Total Recall lip sync issue". So your mileage might vary on the exchange issue.

I'm about to order these 2 title's from amazon.com,since their the same edition as the on'e's best buy are selling,I'm wondering that I might have problem's playing them on my oppo BDP-103.
So are the one's from amazon have issue's or not,because I'm thinking of buying them from japan,UK or Germany.

I've purchased Dredd from Amazon.com and gave it a quick spin last night on my BDP-103 which has the latest firmware and I can confirm it plays fine. I skipped few a few chapters just to make sure and will be giving it a full viewing this evening.

I'd recommend not getting the UK version as it has inferior picture, sound and extras which is normal for an EIV release.

By the way best buy confirmed to me they had a bad batch---they said they had a bin full of returns in the back--the copy I received from Amazon worked fine.

I watched Dredd in 3D on my PS3 Slim on an LG 55LM6200 over the weekend and I really enjoyed the movie. The plot is threadbare, but it has enough to justify the action and is pretty close to the source material in look and feel.

It has Robocop levels of violence without the tongue in cheek aspect.

I also watched the movie in 2D while I did some work around the house. When I loaded up the movie this time, I simply used the chapter forward button to get to the menu since the top menu button wasn't usable.

My copy came from Amazon last week and I didn't have any issues with 3D working.

dredd was a good rent and, as others have suggested, a much more palatable flick than looper.

dredd just needs a little of verhoven's touch for it to enter robocop terrritory