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"Ultra HD" Replaces "4K" as Official Next-Gen TV Name

post #1 of 66
10/18/12 at 8:57pm
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Consumer Electronics Association recently assembled for a meeting in which it was decided that "Ultra High Definition" will replace "4K" as the name for the next-generation TV and projector technology.

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The 4K Working Group of the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA), an over-arching industry group that includes most major consumer electronics companies and is also responsible for the annual CES trade show, decided on the "Ultra High Definition" name, it said Thursday.

Here are the specs that technology has to meet before the Ultra HD name can be used:
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- Ultra High Definition screens and projectors should have a resolution of at least 8 million pixels, with at least 3,840-pixel-by-2,160-pixel resolution.

- The screen aspect ratio should be 16 by 9.

- Perhaps mostly importantly, the set must have a digital input "capable of carrying and presenting native 4K format video ... without relying solely on upconverting," the CEA said.

So what do you think of the name?
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Edited by TeddyP - 10/18/12 at 9:08pm
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post #2 of 66
10/18/12 at 9:02pm
I think 4K, 8K and 16K will stick around for awhile. It's easier to distinguish between the future formats.
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post #3 of 66
10/18/12 at 9:15pm
I guess we will start to sound like a Street Fighter title in a few years... Super Ultra Championship Edition!
Edited by mrkalel - 10/20/12 at 6:10am
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post #4 of 66
10/18/12 at 10:22pm
I'm disappointed. Call me a septic, but I think it's no coincidence that the verbiage is "should" instead of "must." I see this going the way of the cellphone carriers not producing true 4G products. I would venture to say that the manufacturers decided on this so that they don't need to produce true 4K products. What a shame.
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post #5 of 66
10/18/12 at 11:53pm
Ultra HD is 4K, for the 8K the right name is not a Super Ultra HD but Öcto HD.
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post #6 of 66
10/19/12 at 12:02am
Shouldn't be calling it 4K anyway as it's not 4096X2160.
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post #7 of 66
10/19/12 at 2:28am
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

Shouldn't be calling it 4K anyway as it's not 4096X2160.

+1 I agree it's not technically 4K.

Now, with that said, I believe terms like Ultra or Super are simply marketing semantics that will help sell products.

IMHO, I believe they should have simply called it 2160p. I'll admit that it doesn't have the same ring to it, but 2160p (in and of itself) implies "double" the resolution, keeps things consistent and negates the need to come up with semantics for the next step up in resolution format.

I forget what surpasses Ultra? If I was on the panel for the next format upgrade I think I would vote for "Ridiculous Resolution" or maybe "Cerebral Resolution."

Alas, I am getting ahead of myself…
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post #8 of 66
10/19/12 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I forget what surpasses Ultra? If I was on the panel for the next format upgrade I think I would vote for "Ridiculous Resolution" or maybe "Cerebral Resolution."

Ludicrous Resolution!
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post #9 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by JD NC View Post

Ludicrous Resolution!

Ludalution! That's got some swank to it...
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post #10 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:07am
I like the name. Now give us content for Ultra HD.
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post #11 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by marmathsen View Post

I'm disappointed. Call me a septic, but I think it's no coincidence that the verbiage is "should" instead of "must." I see this going the way of the cellphone carriers not producing true 4G products. I would venture to say that the manufacturers decided on this so that they don't need to produce true 4K products. What a shame.

Hehe. I'm gonna call you a septic.
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post #12 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:55am
Great, so now my Sony 1000ES isn't "Ultra HD" because it isn't 16:9.
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post #13 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

Hehe. I'm gonna call you a septic.

I'm going to start calling my brother-in-law a septic, because he's so full of .....
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post #14 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:59am
biggrin.gif I was thinking the same thing... *pinches nose*
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post #15 of 66
10/19/12 at 7:07am
I can't say I'm a fan. I preferred just '4k' myself.
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post #16 of 66
10/19/12 at 7:22am
It should not be Ultra High Definition.

It should be Ultra Definition.

Don't stack the superlatives.
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post #17 of 66
10/19/12 at 7:47am
Its just another naming scheme to sell more displays, the same happened when they started calling 1080p "Full HD"
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post #18 of 66
10/19/12 at 8:12am
Doesn't matter what we call it, Apple will come out with a TV and just call it "Retina".
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post #19 of 66
10/19/12 at 12:24pm
Indeed. What's next, "Super Ultra HD" or "Ultra Mega HD" or something? It's easier to be able to identify by resolution than marketing terms.
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post #20 of 66
10/19/12 at 1:23pm
HD Ultimate.

It is the end all, be all of high definition!
It is a resolution ten times higher than the human eye is able to discern!
It is a resolution so high, no device can accurately gauge its true resolution!

It is HD.
It is the Ultimate.

It is for those who insist upon the very best.
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post #21 of 66
10/19/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

I forget what surpasses Ultra? If I was on the panel for the next format upgrade I think I would vote for "Ridiculous Resolution" or maybe "Cerebral Resolution."
Alas, I am getting ahead of myself…

Nothing surpasses "Ultra". I suspect that's why they called it that. All they have to do going forward is just plug new numbers in the standard and keep on trucking.
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post #22 of 66
10/19/12 at 4:47pm
I for one am glad for the changing of the 4k name used on these upcoming TVs to UltraHD, they are only 2 times the resolution of 1080 which would make the resolutions 3840x2160 which clearly is not 4k resolution. D-Cinema 4k resolution is 4096x2160. You can now see why I am glad they changed the naming scheme, I would hate for people to buy a "4k" TV just to find out they have to go and buy another "4k" tv when D-Cinema content starts rolling out, you can see how confusing that would get.
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post #23 of 66
10/19/12 at 6:29pm
Looks like Sony doesn't care what the CEA is calling it:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/19/3527162/sony-to-use-4k-uhd-nomenclature
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post #24 of 66
10/19/12 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by JD NC View Post

Ludicrous Resolution!

Plaid!
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post #25 of 66
10/20/12 at 9:32am
It is 4 times the resolution not 2 times. Lets do some math.

Full HD = 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

Ultra HD = 3840 x 2160 = 8,294,400 pixels

8,294,400 / 2,073,600 = 4

Therefore Ultra HD IS 4 times the resolution as full HD
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post #26 of 66
10/20/12 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by marmathsen View Post

It is 4 times the resolution not 2 times. Lets do some math.
Full HD = 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels
Ultra HD = 3840 x 2160 = 8,294,400 pixels
8,294,400 / 2,073,600 = 4
Therefore Ultra HD IS 4 times the resolution as full HD

Nope. It is 4X the pixels . . . not 4X the resolution. You don't measure the resolution of displayed images by counting pixels.
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post #27 of 66
10/20/12 at 11:49am
Ultra HD used to be 33MP. Now it's a LOT less! mad.gif
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post #28 of 66
10/20/12 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Ultra HD used to be 33MP. Now it's a LOT less! mad.gif

Not really.

There is UHDTV1 (2160) and UHDTV2 (4320). They could have called 2160 "Ultra HD" and 4320 "Super Hi-Vision" . . . but they didn't.
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post #29 of 66
10/20/12 at 4:37pm
......and! Like I am going to dump my great HDTV, Blu-Ray, Dierctv, OTA for the next wiz bang multi-corporation scheme to keep us buying, buying, buying.

Let them eat cake.........off with their heads!
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post #30 of 66
10/21/12 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by TeddyP View Post

Consumer Electronics Association recently assembled for a meeting in which it was decided that "Ultra High Definition" will replace "4K" as the name for the next-generation TV and projector technology.
Here are the specs that technology has to meet before the Ultra HD name can be used:

So what do you think of the name?
[Source]


Hmmm, NHK has been calling it Ultra High Definition since 2010. http://www.esaee.com/news/News/Telecom/1543.html
Probably earlier as 2007. The SMPTE first released Standard 2036 for UHDTV in 2007.
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