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freebits,

How big and what type of material is your screen? I'm trying to decide between the Sony and the JVC 46 for a 135-140 inch 16:9 Studiotek 130, so your thoughts are interesting to me. In the dark I think I will be fine brightness wise with the JVC, but would like to watch games with some low ambient lighting. Of course with the JVC's lens memory, its possible to have a memory for a much smaller picture on the bigger screen which would be fine. My room will have black screen wall and ceiling and an undecided dark color on side walls. Thoughts? Any input from you or other members is greatly appreciated!

Mine is 110" ST130. I think 140" would need high lamp mode with JVC. It's not good idea to zoom out the image smaller than actual screen size.
When it comes to big screen, HW50 will fit better.

Thanks for the feedback. Almost sounds like you had a defective sample of the Sony. What were your impressions of the black level of the Sony vs. the JVC on the Studiotek? Why would you say zooming out for a smaller image just for a football game is a bad idea? Does it do any damage to projector or screen?

I have a 150" elite screen lunette, with 1.1 cinewhite.
Had people over for the Super Bowl and had low ambient lighting in my bat cave.
It was more than bright enough for everyone present in Stage mode, with lamp on low.
There was absolutely no need to put the lamp in high mode. It would have been way too bright

Normally the brightness would be reduced more than 15% after D65 calibration. I'd maintain at least 12fL with whatever mode I choose.
Maybe it's OK to select the brightest mode like Stage if you don't mind non-calibrated grayscale. It can be brighter than calibrated mode but I don't know it's brighter than 12fL or so. It's subjective if you say it's bright enough.

I measured 0.006 cd/m2 with 0 IRE when Auto Iris Full and on/off ratio was around 17k :1. When manual Iris closed down to 20%, its black level was 0.015 cd/m2 and contrast ratio was roughly 4,500 :1.

I dont think zooming out will damage anything if it's watching sports games casually.
Edited by freebits - 2/13/13 at 9:08pm

I agree with this also. Skyfall's the best-looking BD I've watched so far on my 4810. The Dark Knight Rises was great during the IMAX shots, but I thought it looked a little soft at times during the scope shots. Skyfall's is razor-sharp, super-detailed, and super-vibrant the whole way through.

@Schwa, did you get reply from Mike on RS4810 green issue?

Just watched my new Sony HW50, courtesy of Mike at AVS. On first impression, I'm very happy with my purchase. I'll need to spend some time calibrating it. However, out of the box, I'm very happy with the PQ on a wide range of sources. Thanks for all your help with making my decision, Jason and others.

Watched Skyfall last night and agree the PQ is top notch. I was very impressed. The audio was also excellent.

I was disappointed with the scope scenes of the dark knight rises

I have considered it but have concerns if it would loose its "look" as family friendly. It is my batcave, but the kids spend plenty of time down there as well and I want to keep a nice/open/friendly feeling. Something I will have to keep thinking about.

BTW, thank you for all your hard work. This thread helped me decide on the HW50 as it is my first projector. It has the best combination of gaming (lag), picture quality, price,etc.. that fit my needs perfectly.

Here is what I did. This actually made a big difference. I could really tell when the OPPO screen saver would bounce around the screen, before I put up the black out portion it would reflect back on the screen, now it's greatly reduced.

I know this isn't perfect and I could black out the whole room, but it's not something I intend to do, but just this little bit, did make a difference. The best part was it was a $25 project that took an hour.

^^^^ What is that material exactly?  It appears to be some sort of extruded plastic corrugate but I can't tell for sure.  In any case, I think my room would benefit from something similar as well.

Funny I am in the exact same boat! Would love to black out the ceiling but have to concurrently maintain the family friendly vibe you allude to above.

My set up is in the living room, so instead of making the room look oppressive for day to day use I'm planing on extending my screen pelmet then putting drop down black velvet roman blinds (and a panel that will pull across to cover the white ceiling). I've done experiments in the past using a simple 'tent' using black sheeting and this tripled my ANSI contrast so was a significant improvement in picture quality. This was the original experiment (though much else has changed in the room since):

You can see how light the side walls and white ceiling are but this 'tent' really made the room darker in terms of reflected light. The only issue was how fiddly it became to put up since I made it a bit too low and it would droop into the top of the picture and require further fiddling about with mid film, which got annoying in the end. If I can achieve a similar effect but perhaps at the push of a button (very James Bond ) then I'll be very happy:

FYI This 'tent' comes out about 2 metres which is less than the screen width which is 2.8 metres

It's actually a fabric from Joanns and it's stapled to a piece of plywood that I cut.

Camping out in your home theater by pitching a tent! A home theater safari!

Zombie, which projector have you seen that's the best at shadow detail?

I have an RS-35 right now. Really only owned JCV projectors as not many projectors are capable of my 19' throw onto a 100" diagonal screen. Always wondered how one of the higher end dlps with the optional long throw lenses would stack up in terms of shadow detail. Black crush really seems to bother me.

Like Zombie and a few others have mentioned Skyfall looks incredible! I did the Tree of Life, Samsara and Skyfall triple feature today which was one eyegasm after another.

Just finished Skyfall with my 4810. WOW. So glad I got the 4810 with all those beautiful night shots. Amazing!

It's no surprise. Skyfall was shot with Arri Alexa digital camera.

These following films are also shot with Alexa cam.
Hugo, In time, Avengers, Game of Thrones, Drive, Rock of Ages, Chronicle

Beautyful shots. What a pity that the movie itself is shockingly awful and stupid.

It depends on the RED model being used. It looks like the two newest RED models can match the dynamic range now, plus can shoot at 5K. Things look promising for the future of digital photography!

Just looked at Skyfall on my RS55. Jaw dropping in every possible way.

And it's funny how living with E-shift, a large image with zero pixel structure and amazing clarity, seems to have made me more sensitive to the pixel structure in other displays. Now when I'm in AV stores I keep noticing the pixel structure on the flat panels. It's so nice viewing such a perfectly smooth and amazingly refined image at home...at such a large size to boot.