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post #3811 of 4168
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I just picked up a new pair of BenQ 3D glasses, they should be here in a few days. These support 120/144 projectors. I'm curious to see how well they block the red flash. The 2nd Gen BQ's were very comfortably but pretty bad at blocking the red flash.

let's see if they nailed it for the 3rd try.

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post #3812 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I just picked up a new pair of BenQ 3D glasses, they should be here in a few days. These support 120/144 projectors. I'm curious to see how well they block the red flash. The 2nd Gen BQ's were very comfortably but pretty bad at blocking the red flash.

let's see if they nailed it for the 3rd try.

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I am also curious to hear if they hold their sync better vs the TrueDepth and 201s.
post #3813 of 4168
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Originally Posted by phisch View PostTrue, but still just a 1/3 the cost of the JVC glasses.

I read a number of them are working on no glasses three D model, for me I care more about 4K or even better 8K with no lamp!

post #3814 of 4168
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I am also curious to hear if they hold their sync better vs the TrueDepth and 201s.

it's interesting they moved the receiver to the side, hopefully it will help. They look like a nice design, we'll see how they fit. I really like the BQ Gen2, it's a shame they couldn't block the red flash near enough for me to use them. It's very obvious in the right eye on this model.

the ZD201's are the benchmark, near flawless, but they are a little small for me and I can see the frames in my side vision.
post #3815 of 4168
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kudos to this company for coming out with a solid device for such a cheap price. It works so well I can forgive that it looks like a George Forman grill... cool.gif

Put it out of site and operate it with iRule IP. smile.gif
post #3816 of 4168
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I am also curious to hear if they hold their sync better vs the TrueDepth and 201s.

The glasses arrived sooner than I was expecting. They seem to fit well over my prescription glasses. I'll let you know how they perform later tonight.

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post #3817 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The glasses arrived sooner than I was expecting. They seem to fit well over my prescription glasses. I'll let you know how they perform later tonight.

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Sounds good! Curious to hear how they perform.
post #3818 of 4168

3D makes me nauseated, no thank I want 4K or 8K any day

post #3819 of 4168
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Sounds good! Curious to hear how they perform.

I spent several hours testing out the glasses shown below, the BQ 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen + the Optoma ZD 201's.

This is a short review. I don't know how they did it, but BQ has significantly increased the ability to stay locked onto the DLP signal. It's day / night difference vs. the ZD201's. It looks like they built in a timer of some kind because you can hold your finger over the receiver and the glasses won't lose sync for a good 5 seconds. it's like a buffer.

I did all the tests where I could easily lose sync on the ZD201's yet the BQ 3rd gen stayed locked with no issues, I had to really go out of my way to get it to lose sync. (turn head completely to the side for 10+ seconds).

Also they are very good at blocking the red flash, much better than the 1st and 2nd gen models and nearly on par with the ZD201's. My only complaint is that they are too tight. The arms that wrap around the eyes are in my opinion too angled so they dig into my head behind the ears. I think I am going to take a hairdryer and heat up the plastic to bend them out a bit. it won't take much to get them to fit right if I do this.

These are highly recommended to try out for the BQ W7000 and the 1070.

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post #3820 of 4168
Wow! No kidding? That is great news Zombie and I am definitely going to order a pair. Thanks for the report and I am excited to use these. smile.gif
post #3821 of 4168
Are these universal glasses that will work with the JVC too?
post #3822 of 4168
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These are specifically designed for use with DLP projectors. DLP models that use 'DLP-LINK' encode a red or white signal into the image which activates the glasses.

There are several different types of glasses you'll read about. DLP-Link, IR and RF. Some of the TV's use bluetooth although I don't recall any projectors yet that use this.

There are a handful of universal models that can work between the various models such as the Monster Vision 3D and Xpand 104 universal glasses (neither work with DLP-Link though).
post #3823 of 4168
Are there any child size 3D glasses that will work with the JVC RF emitter? Got a 4year old nephew, The Hobbit would be great for him! Also Zombie, have you tried the Samsung glasses yet?
post #3824 of 4168
I got 2 sets of these: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-4100GB-Active-Glasses-Models/dp/B007K9P7H0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2TKRI2LXJ4UHH&coliid=I270304R655QCA and they work with the new JVC RF emitter. I really didn't want my 7 and 9 year old nephews using my JVC glasses and had gotten those with a little new 40 Samsung tv I purchased for our upstairs and they paired and worked like a charm.

Hope this helps.
post #3825 of 4168
I bought 6 pair of the Samsung 4100 glasses for my daughters & their friends. I will get my wife & I a nicer set, just don't know what yet. They were only $18 a pair on Amazon with free shipping. smile.gif
post #3826 of 4168
finally got to see bbars x75 in action for 3D. thanks bbar for the opportunity. had to take my bd player to him so he could play region b blurays though hehe

we watched art of flight in 3D. good punch to the pic good detail and clarity. a few questions though for regular 3D watchers though as bbar detests 3D and probably no help with any of this ! .

it took a while to line up 3D on the PJ. perhaps this is because bbar doesnt have auto detect on 3D turned on ?. and had to go manual selection of 3D and then manual selection of colour profile preset and manually bump up the brightness. also RF 3D glasses in my case refused to synch - bbar said have to take it behind the pj for it to synch?. budd sitting next to me and ageless behind didnt have that issue. PQ wise noticed a couple of things there was a distinct ghosting/crosstalk ie the ghost line that followed the snow capped mountains and skier as went down the slopes. noticed a touch of blur as well. Additionally bbar definitely hasnt calibrated the 3D as there was a bit of red push and oversaturation in the colurs. I just would have thought the calibration for 2D caries over to 3D with auto adjustment compensating for tint and brightness ?

please dont some one read this as derogatory as picture quality was very good overall and 2D when we swapped to excellent. just some question marks, kind of stuff I'll have to check off on for jvc to be contender for me late in the year when hoping to do an upgrade

ps am reposting here incase some more jvc 3D watchers here which seem a bit of a rarity over at my home forum smile.gif
post #3827 of 4168
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Were you watching Art of Flight with the built in 2D -> 3D conversion? The true 3D version isn't due out for a while.

the built in processing will look average at best. Did you try it with any native 3D blurays? The RF signal shouldn't be an issue to lock on, perhaps the glasses had a weak charge.

The JVC's do not automatically select the correct color profile when 3D mode is engaged, you have to manually select the correct profile. When choosing the 3D mode, I would change the color profile from 3D to natural. It's way over-saturated with the default settings.

The new JVC's can definitely benefit from a calibration in 3D (with the glasses behind the meter) since the dE's are relatively high with the out of the box settings.
post #3828 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The glasses arrived sooner than I was expecting. They seem to fit well over my prescription glasses. I'll let you know how they perform later tonight.

benq-glasses.jpg

Are these rechargeable? Very little info listed on any site's description.

Thanks
post #3829 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Are these rechargeable? Very little info listed on any site's description.

Thanks

Hi, these are powered by the 2032 'coin' batteries. I personally prefer this because I am always forgetting to charge my glasses. I have a ton of these 2032 batteries and just swap them out once in a while. They seem to last a long time.
post #3830 of 4168
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Hi, these are powered by the 2032 'coin' batteries. I personally prefer this because I am always forgetting to charge my glasses. I have a ton of these 2032 batteries and just swap them out once in a while. They seem to last a long time.

Thanks for the reply.

I figured they weren't. I'm not too keen on having to buy replacement batteries. Might have to go with the True Depths. I like how these seem to be difficult to break synch though.

Tough decision, whereas if they had just made these rechargeable (hello 2013 lol) it would be a no brainer.

Thanks again for the hands-on and the reply.
post #3831 of 4168
I agree with Zombie that rechargeable batteries are no big deal since the 2032's are so cheap. One can buy 50 for $10 on Amazon. I have also had the batteries in rechargeable glasses go bad and that is the end of the glasses.

I also just found out that 3D Active just received their new rechargeable 144k DLP glasses. I just ordered a pair and will report back when I receive them. I had a pair of their other glasses and they were the most comfortable ones I had found.
post #3832 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Were you watching Art of Flight with the built in 2D -> 3D conversion? The true 3D version isn't due out for a while.

the built in processing will look average at best. Did you try it with any native 3D blurays? The RF signal shouldn't be an issue to lock on, perhaps the glasses had a weak charge.

The JVC's do not automatically select the correct color profile when 3D mode is engaged, you have to manually select the correct profile. When choosing the 3D mode, I would change the color profile from 3D to natural. It's way over-saturated with the default settings.

The new JVC's can definitely benefit from a calibration in 3D (with the glasses behind the meter) since the dE's are relatively high with the out of the box settings.

thanks as always zombie, not 2D to 3D conversion. art of flight 3D was released in the theatres late last year and on blu-ray here in oz little while back,

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/blu-ray/art-of-flight-the-blu-ray-3d/dp/6119465

not seen that before but a good watch. have you seen life of pi as yet seems to be a reference viewing for both 2D and 3D. mine just shipped from amazon smile.gif

thanks for reporting back re glasses, yeah defnitely possible just low in charge. good to know natural is good out the box. seems a pity jvc require to manually select colour presets. youd think like other pjs it would hold a colour preset so when detecting 3D would just select the correct colour preset ? otherwise would be a bit messy in use ? certainly not just case of stick disc in and hit play smile.gif
post #3833 of 4168
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

thanks as always zombie, not 2D to 3D conversion. art of flight 3D was released in the theatres late last year and on blu-ray here in oz little while back,

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/blu-ray/art-of-flight-the-blu-ray-3d/dp/6119465

not seen that before but a good watch. have you seen life of pi as yet seems to be a reference viewing for both 2D and 3D. mine just shipped from amazon smile.gif

thanks for reporting back re glasses, yeah defnitely possible just low in charge. good to know natural is good out the box. seems a pity jvc require to manually select colour presets. youd think like other pjs it would hold a colour preset so when detecting 3D would just select the correct colour preset ? otherwise would be a bit messy in use ? certainly not just case of stick disc in and hit play smile.gif

Besides the projector specific issues you mentioned, how is the 3d in The Art of Flight? I would have to mod my Oppo to even import and watch it so I doubt I will do that, but I am still curious how the 3d turned out. I love this disc!
post #3834 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Hi, these are powered by the 2032 'coin' batteries. I personally prefer this because I am always forgetting to charge my glasses. I have a ton of these 2032 batteries and just swap them out once in a while. They seem to last a long time.

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I agree with Zombie that rechargeable batteries are no big deal since the 2032's are so cheap. One can buy 50 for $10 on Amazon. I have also had the batteries in rechargeable glasses go bad and that is the end of the glasses.

I also just found out that 3D Active just received their new rechargeable 144k DLP glasses. I just ordered a pair and will report back when I receive them. I had a pair of their other glasses and they were the most comfortable ones I had found.


How long do these CR2032 batteries typically last before needing to be replaced? How long did your rechargeable glasses last before the battery wouldn't hold a charge?
post #3835 of 4168
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

thanks as always zombie, not 2D to 3D conversion. art of flight 3D was released in the theatres late last year and on blu-ray here in oz little while back,

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/blu-ray/art-of-flight-the-blu-ray-3d/dp/6119465

not seen that before but a good watch. have you seen life of pi as yet seems to be a reference viewing for both 2D and 3D. mine just shipped from amazon smile.gif

thanks for reporting back re glasses, yeah defnitely possible just low in charge. good to know natural is good out the box. seems a pity jvc require to manually select colour presets. youd think like other pjs it would hold a colour preset so when detecting 3D would just select the correct colour preset ? otherwise would be a bit messy in use ? certainly not just case of stick disc in and hit play smile.gif

thanks for the information, I just imported a copy of the Art of Flight 3D, this is one of my favorite reference 2D blurays.

I have life of pi 3D, I haven't had the chance to watch it yet.

The Sony HW50 switches automatically between 2D and 3D calibrations which makes it completely hands off when switching modes. JVC should change this in future models to make it easier for 'plug and play' 3D.
post #3836 of 4168
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How long do these CR2032 batteries typically last before needing to be replaced? How long did your rechargeable glasses last before the battery wouldn't hold a charge?

it seems like my rechargeable glasses run out quicker than the 2032 glasses. If i go a few weeks without a charge, sometimes I get stuck having to do a 'quick charge' (just 20-30 minutes will usually last a movie or 2)

The coin batteries can last a pretty long time when they aren't in use. I wish they all used the battery as my original Monster VIsion 3D's are shot and I have to take it apart to see if I can replace the custom battery.
post #3837 of 4168
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

it seems like my rechargeable glasses run out quicker than the 2032 glasses. If i go a few weeks without a charge, sometimes I get stuck having to do a 'quick charge' (just 20-30 minutes will usually last a movie or 2)

The coin batteries can last a pretty long time when they aren't in use. I wish they all used the battery as my original Monster VIsion 3D's are shot and I have to take it apart to see if I can replace the custom battery.

How many hours would you guess a CR2032 gives you of movie watching? Have you had a rechargeable pair die on you completely, and if so, how many months did it take?

Just trying to gauge if the 2032's last longer before they need changing than a rechargeable pair lasts before it can no longer hold a charge.
post #3838 of 4168
Thanks Zombie for the advice on adjusting the Benq glasses. Mine arrived today from B&H photo in NY. They have them in stock at $79.99.

They are very uncomfortable out of the box. I used a heat gun to adjust them and they now fit fine. One has to be very careful with the heat gun it only takes a few seconds to heat the plastic to make adjustments.

I have briefly compared these glasses to the True Depth and Sansonic. The new Benq seems to block the light the best but the True-Depth glasses are not bad at all. Will do more testing later. I also have a pair of the new 3D active coming soon,.

I also like the fact that the glasses use the button 2032 cell. They are very cheap and one can find 100 for about $10 on Amazon. Better than a rechargeable one that can go bad.

Has anyone tried the Monoprice DLP glasses. They look nice and one review states that they work with the Benq 1070.
Edited by rwestley - 3/19/13 at 2:59pm
post #3839 of 4168
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Thanks Zombie for the advice on adjusting the Benq glasses. Mine arrived today from B&H photo in NY. They have them in stock at $79.99.

They are very uncomfortable out of the box. I used a heat gun to adjust them and they now fit fine. One has to be very careful with the heat gun it only takes a few seconds to heat the plastic to make adjustments.

I have briefly compared these glasses to the True Depth and Sansonic. The new Benq seems to block the light the best but the True-Depth glasses are not bad at all. Will do more testing later. I also have a pair of the new 3D active coming soon,.

I also like the fact that the glasses use the button 2032 cell. They are very cheap and one can find 100 for about $10 on Amazon. Better than a rechargeable one that can go bad.

Has anyone tried the Monoprice DLP glasses. They look nice and one review states that they work with the Benq 1070.

good deal on modifying them. I was going to use a hairdryer.. the heat gun means business... smile.gif

How was the syncing on your projector? did it hold the signal well even when moving around?
post #3840 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post


How long do these CR2032 batteries typically last before needing to be replaced? How long did your rechargeable glasses last before the battery wouldn't hold a charge?

I saw that they last around 150 hours on the Sharp 4100. That's a lot of 3D movies! That was posted somewhere in the listing by Sharp.
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