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post #151 of 651
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The unwrapping of the S2............my posse of 4 young men didn't show up so my Son and I carried it in by ourselves........stepping up over the front stage was an interesting event in agility to say the least!! eek.gif

BTW...........I tweaked my back while setting down the beast...........I'll pay for it in the morning! Already consumed several IBuprofen.........biggrin.gif





Once the monster was unwrapped in room......................had to open up the AXS-R rack to access XLR cable. I really like the rack as it's so easy and convenient accessing rear. Once done, remove temporary guides.........lock into place and you're good to go.!




The center Triad Gold LCR is sitting on top of the S2 with two layers of 3/8'' Serenity Mat..............tweeters for all three LCR's are within 1/4'' in variation.......not bad! biggrin.gif





I will have comments once I have time to measure...............watched Prometheus after using Audyssey MultEQ XT 32.

First impression ..........the sub fills the room quite well. Measurements will tell the full story!!
post #152 of 651
Ok, 18 hours is long enough! Let's hear some impressions! And measurements! Bring it on!

(I had a similar experience involving the stairs, my knee, and the orbit shifter).
post #153 of 651
Nothing makes the back feel better than some serious bass! Let's have it! The natives are getting restless.
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+1 biggrin.gif
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Ok, 18 hours is long enough! Let's hear some impressions! And measurements! Bring it on!

(I had a similar experience involving the stairs, my knee, and the orbit shifter).

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Nothing makes the back feel better than some serious bass! Let's have it! The natives are getting restless.

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+1 biggrin.gif

Me Grandmum used to always tell me..................................................................."Patience is the greatest virtue." biggrin.gif
post #156 of 651
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Me Grandmum used to always tell me..................................................................."Patience is the greatest virtue." biggrin.gif

Yeah, yeah. She also used to tell me some things would make me go blind, but I'll have you know I have near perfect vision biggrin.gif
post #157 of 651
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Well................

This morning downloaded REW............and attempted to begin creating graphs. Evidently, my sound card in PC and old mic are not compatible. mad.gif

So I just ordered a Calibrated Dayton UMM-6 from Cross-Spectrum Labs .......which BTW wont be here until September. Looking on the bright side........my digital SPL meter works! biggrin.gif

I've been using the same SPL meter to document soundproofing during my build........................with equipment room fan running which is next to front theater entrance..........HVAC blowing at full throttle..............and with theater room door closed using Zero seals....last night my db variation had a range of 27 db's to 34 db's.

I must be a heavy breather!!biggrin.gif

In regards to S2:

When I first hooked up the S2, the way Jeff had it dialed in was at 95 dbs.............had to turn volume knob way, way down to calibrate with XT32. Started at 75 db's with sub, but bumped +3 db's after XT32 because that's the way I roll! Definitely need more woofage in back although seat variance is too not bad. While moving around all seating positions (sub only), I was looking at +/- 5 db's in SPL between all seven seating positions which is not bad due to +/- 2 db range of reliability of meter..........still some work to do. And YES.............I'm adding more subs! biggrin.gif

Listening impression.......................

During the first two weeks of theater usage................my first calibration with the 8801 was setting the Gold LCR's to LARGE which is not what these speakers were designed for............so to keep me from destroying mid-woofers I kept the volume to -15 db's in processor. The overall sound wasn't bad, but the mid's were a bit bloated and the LFE was non-existent.

Two nights ago, I re-calibrated and applied crossovers at 80 hz for the "Silver and Golds"



with the S2 taking over all material below 80 hz. Well, talk about opening up the front stage and surrounds..................eek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

While watching the newer version of "Total Recall" the front stage sound came at me in waves......................it was a HUGE encompassing sound.........crystal clear.......with mid-bass slam! Even the surrounds were not working as hard giving greater detail and a much more spacial presence. Amazing how using speakers as intended can really make a huge difference.cool.gif

On the subject of dynamic...............Triad Gold's have those qualities in spades! I sit approximately 12.5 ft from LCR speakers and was measuring peaks of 116 db's at -10 db's on the 8801. Earlier in the week, I had hit peaks115 db's with the Gold's set to large but that was at 0 db's on the Marantz. Yeah, I know.............not a smart thing to do.

I was wondering if my decision to pass over Triad Plats or Noesis 212's for the Gold LCR's was mistake...............after my measurements.........I don't think so. The Triad Gold's are extremely dynamic speakers...............in fact, I was thinking..........."Will the S2 keep up with the Golds?" wink.gif

After hearing and comparing the Noesis 212's with Triad Golds..............IMHO, the Gold LCR's are smoother and give a much wider/broader sound field..........and are dynamic enough for me. smile.gif
Edited by doublewing11 - 8/22/13 at 2:01pm
post #158 of 651
Adding more subs??? Repeat after me....:My name is doublewing11 and I'm a bass-a-holic!!" biggrin.gif I can't imagine how much that sub pressurizes your room. It just has to be awesome. Can't wait to see the waterfall graphs on those things.

And nice write-up on the Triads. They are unbelievably good, especially for their size. I don't know what kind of sorcery goes on at their factory, but whatever it is - it works. Had I not gone the Procella Route I would have been all over Triads.


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.... between all seven seating positions ....

I had to laugh...but this statement made me think of this video....

post #159 of 651
Less than nine subwoofers don't make you an bassoholic, just so you know. wink.gif
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Adding more subs??? Repeat after me....:My name is doublewing11 and I'm a bass-a-holic!!" biggrin.gif I can't imagine how much that sub pressurizes your room. It just has to be awesome. Can't wait to see the waterfall graphs on those things.

And nice write-up on the Triads. They are unbelievably good, especially for their size. I don't know what kind of sorcery goes on at their factory, but whatever it is - it works. Had I not gone the Procella Route I would have been all over Triads.
I had to laugh...but this statement made me think of this video....

Yup......................aka Doublewing11 the bass-a-holic!!! wink.gif

Yes, the S2 does pressurize the room well.............but not enough! The back theater wall which is shared by a garage was not moving enough!!! I have additional layers of 5/8 OSB + GG+ 5/8 DW in garage and could barely feel the vibrations. Four layers of 5/8'' material+GG+ 2 X 6 studs + insulation are doing their job..........thus I can push the envelope more ie. more subs!!!!cool.gif

Various pms have suggested maybe ported Pro 5100's in pairs would get me there...............wink.gif

Loved the video..............I found it funny because I would take 100 ft measuring tape to local theater and measure screen and preferred seating distance! Talk about annal retentive!!! biggrin.gif
post #161 of 651
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Less than nine subwoofers don't make you an bassoholic, just so you know. wink.gif

If I place Triad subs in each column................add a few 5100's.............I'd be there!!!wink.gif
post #162 of 651
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Oh................and one IMPORTANT fact I forgot to mention!!!!!

Liberal use of neoprene foam on everything such as spacers on columns.......blocking for columns..............etc. was well worth it!

Not one rattle in room which I had to combat!!!! biggrin.gif
post #163 of 651
That is one of my favorite scenes from Big Bang Theory.

It will be interesting to get measurements between your rows and dial everything in. You might want to wait on selling the S2 until you really confirm that more output is necessary. After you place balancing subs the nulls could fill in and leave you with just what you need.

I would like to get even more impressions of your Triad Gold's. They are on my short list. I know that conventional wisdom is a compression dome tweeter for the dynamics in reference level HT use but there are trade offs. If a compression dome tweeter had no flaws it would be used for everything but it is not. The peaks you are getting from your Triad's seem to suggest that output is not a problem. Dynamics are admittedly more difficult to ascertain unless you make a direct comparison back to back. My first row is 9.5' from screen. My R/L channels are essentially equidistant to the MLP. If my speaker is placed approx 6 inches behind my screen then that is 10'. I might even move my front row up 6'' so that would be back down to 9.5'. Point is that I am within the oft recommended 8-10' for use of a soft dome tweeter. My second row is outside of this spec though at around 14.5-15'. So those guys might be screwed if the tweeter could not be tweaked to make it back there without compression. I would then choose to forgo a smooth treble section for the back row and just let it roll off a little bit instead of compromising my first row. But, maybe no compromises would be needed. I dunno. One thing I do know is that I will sit in the front row and I don't want to compromise performance just so I can help the back row out. There is a lot more to say but I don't want to muddy your thread with my own problems.

Are you getting a professional calibration? Or going to take measurements and tweak yourself? Regardless I would like to see them!

Edit: And glad to hear that there are no rattles. That is a "moment of truth" that I am nervous about. And you don't know until you have done a full spectrum sweep and high volume. I was just at a friends house who recently finished his DIY sub project. Four Dayton 18'' drivers with a Peavey 5000 amp. He has an annoying rattle at a particular frequency and will need to cut into his drywall to fish for the problem. Please don't let that be me!
post #164 of 651
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Jed.......how would you muddy up my thread? Isn't this a competition to increase our thread count? rolleyes.gif

Never understood fore mentioned concept..............you have legitimate concerns and want answers be it in this thread or elsewhere. Might as well be here......straight out of the horses mouth! smile.gif


I wont be selling the S2........in fact, it really is the BEST solution for someone who maybe depth limited. The sub is only 16+ inches deep and actually saved me money due to not buying another Triad pedestal!!! Last night, watching Transformers III, the LFE from S2 came at me in waves......who needs butt kickers when you can have a shitz tsu massage without the price! To be honest..........I was upset with an almost 3 month wait on S2............but the goods came as advertised...........it's a keeper!

With 4-5 db's in variance of LFE............leveling subs will be needed........question is how many and what? An S1 would be the easiest solution........but I want to dip my toes into DIY since I have the skills. We shall see.......

With all due respect to professionals.................what matters most to me is quality of sound. I understand the reasoning behind compression drivers........but dispersion is so narrow they don't give you that full rich sound field. I've listened to most products under the sun..........but when it came down to it, I wasn't willing to sacrifice the needs of the 2nd row for my needs in the front row. Actually, the dynamics on Gold's are way above my needs........-10 db's on the processor is enough for my ears without having to visit the doctor. I tried to listen at 0 db's.........and it was too much though the Gold LCR were cruising with no compression. I'm actually thinking Gold Monitors would have worked for me too....................

If you are sitting at 9.5 ft from LCR...........the question I ask is why would you need anything more than Golds? IMHO, the Noesis 212's are no where near as smooth as Golds and don't present that HUGH airy sound field. I was concerned with dynamics too.......which btw Noesis 212's have in spades..........but they were not anywhere near the best sounding speaker I've heard. Dynamic yes...........best sound no. I had to choose.............dynamic speaker...............or a speaker that was pleasing to my ears. I made a compromise..............gave up on my favorite speaker Gold Monitors.........gave up on my favorite Dynamic speaker for the money Noesis 212's...............the compromise was Gold LCR's. Bad decision? No.....................are the Gold LCR's dynamic? YES!!!

Since your main seating position is 9.5 ft..............you will have no problems with Gold's. On many occasions I have been told my Triad Silver LCR Surrounds and Gold LCR's could not keep up with JTR subs. I say HOGWASH!!!!! All three integrate quite well despite the need for more woofage! Since I need more subs...........does that mean the S2 can't keep up with Triad Golds? No..............

IMHO, I believe you are over thinking on speaker selection.................the Gold's hit 116 db's without compression at first row which is LOUD!!!!!!!!!! Even reference at 105 db's is loud to me.............. oh well, my processor will remain at -10 db's. biggrin.gif

Since you have heard JTR products..............you need to take time to audition Gold LCR's...........................you wont be disappointed. I'm giving the Gold's 400 watts of current and they sing!!! cool.gif


On the calibration front..............I will be doing the calibrations for now. I'm investing in a minidsp 10 X 10 to work with row surrounds and subs. I'm too late for Jeff Meier from Accucal................he will be in Portland area sometime next June. I'll let him correct my mistakes then!! biggrin.gif

BTW, after going through this process...............I always placed emphasis on audio................at the last minute, I decided to put emphasis on video........and I'm glad I did. With my Quest acoustic products.................I firmly believe I could use any speaker system and my sound would still be excellent. Maybe my acoustic design for Gold LCR's is the "secret sauce". Something to ponder..................wink.gif

Lesson learned................the room is the biggest factor...........not the equipment.
post #165 of 651
I guess I meant muddy it up by making it about me.

I have the same philosophy regarding butt kickers. Just add more bass instead of shaking your chair! They can be fun though.

Is your calibration such that 0db on your AVR is 85 db? Just want to make sure that I know what is what. Some folks go with 75db or so I am told.

So your front row is 12.5? What is your second row?

I too love the Noesis 212's. The most dynamic speaker I have ever heard. They had a large soundstage in the 2 rooms I have heard them in.

What amp are you using? For others that do not know........the Golds are rated at 4ohms. So is that 400 watt rating what your amplifier administers to a speaker rated at 4 ohm? I just purchase one of the Sherbourn PA 7-350's on closeout. As the name suggests it is a 350w/ch amplifier but that is at the commonly spec'd 8 ohm's. I think it delivers closer to 550 watts into a 4 ohm speaker. The reason I am asking is I see that Triad states the Golds maximum power rating is 250 watts. I was always a bit confused by this rating. I have heard it said that a speaker can take around double the maximum power rating. I have no idea if this is true. Probably a better question for the Triad thread or the Amplifier thread but since we are on the subject.......

I spoke with Jeff Meier a month or so ago. He seems to really know his stuff and does a heck of a lot of calibrations. He happens to live only an hour or two away from me as well!
post #166 of 651
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I guess I meant muddy it up by making it about me.

I have the same philosophy regarding butt kickers. Just add more bass instead of shaking your chair! They can be fun though.

Is your calibration such that 0db on your AVR is 85 db? Just want to make sure that I know what is what. Some folks go with 75db or so I am told.

So your front row is 12.5? What is your second row?

I too love the Noesis 212's. The most dynamic speaker I have ever heard. They had a large soundstage in the 2 rooms I have heard them in.

What amp are you using? For others that do not know........the Golds are rated at 4ohms. So is that 400 watt rating what your amplifier administers to a speaker rated at 4 ohm? I just purchase one of the Sherbourn PA 7-350's on closeout. As the name suggests it is a 350w/ch amplifier but that is at the commonly spec'd 8 ohm's. I think it delivers closer to 550 watts into a 4 ohm speaker. The reason I am asking is I see that Triad states the Golds maximum power rating is 250 watts. I was always a bit confused by this rating. I have heard it said that a speaker can take around double the maximum power rating. I have no idea if this is true. Probably a better question for the Triad thread or the Amplifier thread but since we are on the subject.......

I spoke with Jeff Meier a month or so ago. He seems to really know his stuff and does a heck of a lot of calibrations. He happens to live only an hour or two away from me as well!

Calibration was actually set at 75 db's............but I bumped +3db's, so 78 db's would be the proper number................

I agree with you.....the Noesis 212's are the MOST dynamic speaker I've heard............for those looking for HUGE dynamics they are great........but I listen to a lot of classical music along with operas.................in that regard they fall far short of my expectations.


Have several amps...............but with Golds I'm using a Halo by Parasound A-31 which is 250 watts @ 8 ohms and 400 watt@4 ohms.......an excellent amp.
I considered using my Krell Evo 403, but @ 800 watt in 4 ohms it's a too little much. At one time, I was considering Triad Plats and figured the Evo would be a solid match..........but after hearing the 212's, I knew Plats would be too much for my ears too. With what I know now........I'd probably would have purchased Gold Monitors...........can't second guess myself now in hindsight. biggrin.gif

You are correct, the Golds are rated for 250 or 300 watts depending on which material you read............dynamic rating is what you mentioned too...........500-600 watts.

With the Triad Silvers, I'm using an ATI 1807 for surrounds which is perfect, but had a few problems with group loop issues due to unbalanced inputs. Considered swapping out with my old Krell S-1500 but finally fixed ground loop. The ATI is rated close to 300 watts in 4 ohms which is similar to the Krell S-1500. To be honest, I'd rather use the Krell.............but silver looks hideous in the rack!!!! The S-1500 is currently powering my great room system.

Seating in 2nd row is 18.5 ft........................I have 5 ft from 2nd row to rear wall which is nice!
post #167 of 651
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Well.........

The Coffin Build premiere happened last night and was a hit!

Movie was "SkyFall" and we crammed 12 people in the room with no issues............temp stayed at a comfortable 70 degrees F. cool.gif

All my brother-in-laws including their wives loved the experience..........only one person had an issue!!!!

...........my 86 year old mother-in-law stated, "I think I've been to HELL and back!" eek.gif

Evidently, she didn't like the movie..........biggrin.gif

She tends to watch 700 Club.........Daystar......................etc. Oh well...............we warned her...........and she still wanted to come!!! biggrin.gif:
post #168 of 651
Congrats on the first GTG!
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Congrats on the first GTG!

Thanks................I'm looking at this event as "Glass half Full".

At least I scared my mother-in-law away!!!!!! biggrin.gif
post #170 of 651
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Is your calibration such that 0db on your AVR is 85 db? Just want to make sure that I know what is what. Some folks go with 75db or so I am told.
I have seen both 75 and 85 dB, but the calibration is actually the same either way. If the reference level of the source noise is recorded at -20 dBFS, that corresponds to 85 dB SPL. If the reference level of the source noise is recorded at -30 dBFS, that corresponds to 75 dB SPL. The latter is the more common level on test discs, but there is one disc that seems closer to 85 dB, the AIX test/demo Blu-ray. But since it is also wideband pink, it is not ideal for level calibration.
post #171 of 651
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I have seen both 75 and 85 dB, but the calibration is actually the same either way. If the reference level of the source noise is recorded at -20 dBFS, that corresponds to 85 dB SPL. If the reference level of the source noise is recorded at -30 dBFS, that corresponds to 75 dB SPL. The latter is the more common level on test discs, but there is one disc that seems closer to 85 dB, the AIX test/demo Blu-ray. But since it is also wideband pink, it is not ideal for level calibration.

Good to hear from you Roger! Hope you had a good time in Port Orchard..............I thought about attending, but had other commitments.

As soon as I receive my mic, I'll start creating/sorting through graphs and begin posting them................feel free to comment!
post #172 of 651
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Since I've been posting in rack thread lately...............and due to my wife and I confronting each other where my "real" rack should be located in home........thought I'd post final resting place for my rack. smile.gif





My wife wanted to put the "rack" on the fireplace....................I didn't want it there due to taking away from my Middle Atlantic Rack..........she didn't find humor in my statement. rolleyes.gif


post #173 of 651
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Thought I'd post to help those who may be looking at projectors.................

Thursday watched my Trojans win an uninspiring game with Hawaii..............no real issue with refresher rate ie. jutter since motion was smooth as silk ................on another note..........boy, since Pete has departed how far has USC fallen!!mad.gif

Anyhow, using Sony 1000ES today helping my Son breakdown game film for his high school coaching stint...............................lights are 60% while he grades his 9 technique and quarterback. The point is.............the brightness and resolution is soooooo good specific foot patterns and techniques are easy to breakdown and evaluate. The finer resolution this projector exhibits is a sight to behold!!! In my 25 +years of coaching football (currently retired)................wish I had something like this projector earlier in my career for breaking down film! This projector is really bright, especially since I have lamp in low mode.

Even though the lights are on in the seating area....................bright enough for pencil and paper and to read computer screen..............the picture thrown is exceptional even with slight light wash and reflection.

I always have lights on when watching sporting events............................Sony 1000ES handles task with aplomb.



post #174 of 651
Very helpful comments on your PJ. I am getting ready to start a remodel which includes an HT. Planning a 12 ft wide 2.37:1 screen with about a 20 ft. projector throw. I have been looking at the JVC RS66, but am concerned about the brightness, even with a Stewart 1.3-gain screen. The step up to the VW1000 is a big one, costwise, but I'd hate to spend all this money on a first-class theatre, and end up with a second-class picture.
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Very helpful comments on your PJ. I am getting ready to start a remodel which includes an HT. Planning a 12 ft wide 2.37:1 screen with about a 20 ft. projector throw. I have been looking at the JVC RS66, but am concerned about the brightness, even with a Stewart 1.3-gain screen. The step up to the VW1000 is a big one, costwise, but I'd hate to spend all this money on a first-class theatre, and end up with a second-class picture.

Couldn't agree more on your assessment.................................the Sony throws a first class picture and I'm finding zoom method is not as painful as I first thought. Blacks are exceptional when lights are off............brightness is a no-brainer.

Loved the JVC projectors but light output was always an issue.....................glad I threw the 3 chip idea out the window with additional cost of ISCO lens. You'd be surprised on final cost for the 1000...............don't discount it. Talk to Mike at AVS...........biggrin.gif
post #176 of 651
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Received an email today Cross-Spectrum Acoustics LC stating my UMM-6 calibrated mic will be arriving soon....................mic should be shipped out the end of this week. I've been reading up on REW and with my extensive background in mathematics/physics..........I'm hoping to be a quick study. smile.gif

As soon as I have mic in hand, will begin posting graphs not only to map my room but to receive help with inherent snafu's along the way. Will be interesting to have empirical information on how the room actually turned out acoustically.

I'm currently looking at alternatives regarding subs for LF smoothing................with my SPL meter, I have no real drastic modes in seating positions.........though some might argue that +/- 5db's in fact is an issue. Well...........more subs to the equation. biggrin.gif

Been watching a lot of movies and have found out all three "Transformer" movies have given the system the best work out.....................I was worried the S2 was not enough LF for my liking.......but have recently learned quite the opposite. Glad I didn't add butt kickers to the system..................cool.gif
post #177 of 651
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Great news for Sony 1000ES owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sony Dave posted
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Today, Sony is happy to announce more details of our VPL-VW1000ES update plan that we know many of you have been waiting for. Since this plan relates to some technologies that had not been announced, we needed a little time so we could discuss all the necessary details of the program. We thank you for waiting and trusting us, and hope that you will see this as an outstanding opportunity, as we do.

As you know the VPL-VW1000ES was designed over 2 years ago, before recent security and HDMI standards were implemented. Now that those standards have been announced, we want to give owners an option to update their projector to take advantage of the new standards and the content that they enable. So, without further delay, here is what we are offering:

If you purchased your projector in the United States and it is presently in the US, You are being offered the chance to upgrade your existing projector. Simply contact your dealer and they will take care of the arrangements and let you know of the costs, but please give them a little time as we were unable to contact every dealer ahead of time. Talk to your dealer and decide if the upgrade should be done at your home or at their shop, but physical update of the projector will be performed by a Sony technician, in either case. The update will not only add the ability to use the new Sony FMP-X1 4K Media Player but also adds 4K 60P (4:2:0) functionality to your projector for future 60P content.

As you might know, the FMP-X1 media player comes with multiple Hollywood movies pre-loaded, but Sony has just added a live storefront to allow purchasing of additional 4K movies, as well. When updated, your VPL-VW1000ES will have the ability to play major studio movies in native 4K UHD resolution, so, as part of the upgrade package, we are including an FMP-X1 unit. Since the media player needs a Sony application to interface with your Sony Entertainment Network account, we are also including a Sony Tablet Z, as well. This award winning fully-functional Android-based tablet is used to allow you to purchase titles from the storefront, as well as to control the media player. At this time, the FMP-X1 is the only 4K player device that can provide access to major studio content, so we are happy to include it, as well.

The in-home or dealer shop update will provide HDCP 2.2 copy protection support, 60P 4K (4:2:0) playback, a 4K Media Player and a tablet to control it. Since we are basically updating your projector with new features, we wanted to include a new lamp so that when installed it will really be like getting an entirely new projector.

The value of all the components totals over $3,000, not counting the service technician or additional dealer services. Our expected cost to you for the update is $2,500 (10% of the list price for the projector), but check with your dealers as they are ultimately the ones that will set the final price. Please note that this is an optional upgrade and your projector only needs this update if you wish to add 4K player functionality to it.

We know that today you have one of the best projectors on the market and hope that you appreciate our efforts to give you an option to add features and support your projector so that it can be used well into the future with the newer standards. We tried to do so at the minimal cost and have worked hard to provide you with additional value. In fact, we are even going to add some more features that we will announce at CEDIA, so we feel that you will be even happier with the additional capabilities we will be announcing then.

Please understand that we have been waiting for the HDMI organization to finalize their newest specifications and, as such, the upgrades will not be ready until about November. However, we do ask that you pre-order as soon as possible so that we may ensure the availability of parts. Also note that, due to costs and logistics, we will be offering this update for a limited period of time only. The last day your dealer will be able to order the upgrade will be March 31st 2014.

Again, we will be at CEDIA and request that if any of you come to that show, please stop by and say hello. We really like to listen and think you will agree that we have.


I will be jumping on the bandwagon and taking my projector to the next level! Sony listened!!! The projector is already wonderful..............4K content has come to fruition!!!

If your on the sidelines for the 1000ES........time to jump in!!!biggrin.gif
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As soon as I have mic in hand, will begin posting graphs not only to map my room but to receive help with inherent snafu's along the way. Will be interesting to have empirical information on how the room actually turned out acoustically.
I'm very interested in how this goes. I'll be following closely. smile.gif
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If your on the sidelines for the 1000ES........time to jump in!!!biggrin.gif

Well... they need to drop the price to 1/8th first, but then I'm all in for it! cool.gif
post #180 of 651
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Boy......you drive a hard bargain! IMHO, the 1000ES is worth every penny.

As far as this update business, my new processor is 1.4 hdmi enabled.....with this new 2.0 hdmi business I wonder if I can even pass through source material from server into processor.

I've signed up for update, yet many questions on signal delivery have me wondering what is possible and future work-a-rounds. Hate to update to find out passing source material through processor is not doable without downgrading signal. Updating would therefore be moot.
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