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post #1021 of 4922
1/5/13 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by safe bobo View Post


I was just mentioning the green silhoutee border along the top and right borders of the projection.....I'm guessing this is normal and just part of the optics. everyone has it? Nothing wrong with the sharpness or focus from corner to corner with this projector.

To me, this looks like Chromatic distortion of the lens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration
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1/5/13 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Just curious, I currently own the viewsonic por8200 and it has 2000 lumens with 4000:1 contrast. The Benq has the same lumens with 10000:1 contrast, I'm wondering if I'm going to see any difference in the picurte quality especially in the dark scenes? I found out the hard way that I need lens shift and I'm having all sorts of minor issues (hot spotting, +8 keystone, image doesn't fill the screen properly) because of it.

Of course you will. More shadow detail ...
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post #1023 of 4922
1/5/13 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

To me, this looks like Chromatic distortion of the lens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration

To me this looks totally unacceptable. I would return it.
My cheaper 720p Acer H5360BD looks much better than this - no convergence problems, no discoloration, just slight sharpenss differences between corners and center of the screen.
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post #1024 of 4922
1/5/13 at 9:06am
Could someone else take close up pics of some text against windows explorer? Is your text up close actually black? Up close it has some colors.
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post #1025 of 4922
1/5/13 at 9:29am
Hey guys,
I've been messing with my projector and mount for the past week trying to tweek everything. I've run into a few quesions and was wondering if you could give me some idea since I'm new to projectors.
1. I was watching Looper the other night and there were scenes when light would glare (as from a window in the movie) - however, the light showed up blue across the screen (like blue streaks) and not white as it should have?

2. I'm using a Monoprice redmere 30 ft cable and am having some issues with the projector not being able to pick up a signal after the signal is switched (it will always pick it up upon first being turned on, but, if i put a different movie in later or change it from the PS3, it will lose the signal and not be able to pick it back up unless i turn the projector on and off (turning the receiver or ps3 on and off does't do anything). Is this the hdmi cable?

3. (Not a projector issue)- i have a ceiling mount which has a ton of adjustment options but I still can not get the picture totally aligned with the screen. Basically the top and sides are pretty well aligned and straight, however, the bottom of the screen is not even (fills the screen on the left side and gradually goes up to being a couple of inches above the bottom of the screen on the right side). - I totally understand that this is my mounting error, but im having a very difficult time which way to move the projector to get it aligned properly before putting more holes in my ceiling.

4. I know color and tint have been mentioned earlier in the thread but just wondering if anyone's figured out a way to be able to access the color and tint options to adjust as they are greyed out in the menu screen.


All of this being said, I'd like to present my opinion thus far:

Pros:
Much brighter than I had expected but not too bright
Vertical lens shift can assist when small adjustments are needed
Very light and portable
Watching the full screen shotsof the city in Batman Rises blew me away.


Cons:
I may be spoiled by my plasma (samsung 63c8000), but the blacks suck and are particularly noticable when watching movies that are not full screen. Raising gamma does help this but, so far, i don't like what it does to the rest of the picture if i do this.
Optical zoom is limited
optical zoom and focus controls can be a bit difficult to hone in as the wheels or recessed and a bit stiff
color out of the box needs work.. too much red in flesh tones - still working of fixing this
Unfortunately for me, I've discovered that i am sensitive to rainbows but am hoping I get over this (not the projector's fault)

Overall - for the money, it is a good projector. I am biased due to having never owned another projector and am comparing to a TV that cost about 4 x as much brand new and so i've been spoiled. The noise can be loud, however, if you are using this with any kind of surround sound, you should be just fine. I don't notice it until before and after the movie is playing, the noise gets easily drowned out.
Edited by socwrkr - 1/5/13 at 9:36am
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post #1026 of 4922
1/5/13 at 9:40am
Art Feierman's review for projectorreviews will be up tomorrow:

http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2012/12/14/benq-w1070-a-first-look-projector-review/comment-page-1/#comment-456753
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post #1027 of 4922
1/5/13 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by socwrkr View Post

Hey guys,
I've been messing with my projector and mount for the past week trying to tweek everything. I've run into a few quesions and was wondering if you could give me some idea since I'm new to projectors.
1. I was watching Looper the other night and there were scenes when light would glare (as from a window in the movie) - however, the light showed up blue across the screen (like blue streaks) and not white as it should have?
2. I'm using a Monoprice redmere 30 ft cable and am having some issues with the projector not being able to pick up a signal after the signal is switched (it will always pick it up upon first being turned on, but, if i put a different movie in later or change it from the PS3, it will lose the signal and not be able to pick it back up unless i turn the projector on and off (turning the receiver or ps3 on and off does't do anything). Is this the hdmi cable?
3. (Not a projector issue)- i have a ceiling mount which has a ton of adjustment options but I still can not get the picture totally aligned with the screen. Basically the top and sides are pretty well aligned and straight, however, the bottom of the screen is not even (fills the screen on the left side and gradually goes up to being a couple of inches above the bottom of the screen on the right side). - I totally understand that this is my mounting error, but im having a very difficult time which way to move the projector to get it aligned properly before putting more holes in my ceiling.
4. I know color and tint have been mentioned earlier in the thread but just wondering if anyone's figured out a way to be able to access the color and tint options to adjust as they are greyed out in the menu screen.
All of this being said, I'd like to present my opinion thus far:
Pros:
Much brighter than I had expected but not too bright
Vertical lens shift can assist when small adjustments are needed
Very light and portable
Watching the full screen shotsof the city in Batman Rises blew me away.
Cons:
I may be spoiled by my plasma (samsung 63c8000), but the blacks suck and are particularly noticable when watching movies that are not full screen. Raising gamma does help this but, so far, i don't like what it does to the rest of the picture if i do this.
Optical zoom is limited
optical zoom and focus controls can be a bit difficult to hone in as the wheels or recessed and a bit stiff
color out of the box needs work.. too much red in flesh tones - still working of fixing this
Unfortunately for me, I've discovered that i am sensitive to rainbows but am hoping I get over this (not the projector's fault)
Overall - for the money, it is a good projector. I am biased due to having never owned another projector and am comparing to a TV that cost about 4 x as much brand new and so i've been spoiled. The noise can be loud, however, if you are using this with any kind of surround sound, you should be just fine. I don't notice it until before and after the movie is playing, the noise gets easily drowned out.




Did you do the followings?

Brilliant Colour - as soon as we turned the feature off noise levels dropped considerably, leaving images less affected by fizzing and colour sparkles.

Smart Eco - which is essentially a dynamic contrast system that continually adjusts the light output to suit the requirements of the image being shown.

As well as reducing power consumption to 163W on average versus the 290W used in Normal mode, it does a handy job of helping the projector achieve a better balance of black level depth and shadow detailing than you get with either of the other lamp modes.
Edited by smokarz - 1/5/13 at 10:28am
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post #1028 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:02am
Here is a pic, i'm going to add them one at a time if i can as i'm having internet issues with my tethering..
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post #1029 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:03am
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post #1030 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:05am


Here is an idea with the screen up (120") for basis of comparison, the tv is a 63".
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post #1031 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by socwrkr View Post

Here is a pic, i'm going to add them one at a time if i can as i'm having internet issues with my tethering..

Looks great in my opinion!
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post #1032 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by socwrkr View Post

Here is a pic, i'm going to add them one at a time if i can as i'm having internet issues with my tethering..


Very nice.

Is your PJ mounted on the ceiling? If so, how tall is your ceiling?
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post #1033 of 4922
1/5/13 at 10:56am
If your projection is shaped like a trapezoid(wider on bottom and shorter on top or vice versa)...have you tried adjusting the keystone?

I believe the hdmi inputs on the w1070, do not "SNUG" in tightly, but hang loosely and it's easy to disconnect the source with just a hint of the cable movement. I have it sitting on the table at the moment, little touch of the wire can disconnect the source for me.

Your pull down screen looks very "FLAT". I have a custom fixed frame screen using weak/thin wood......What happens when I lift up the projection screen and mount it onto the hinges which stick out about a foot from the wall, the wood flexes and waves form on the projection screen. I've tried to fix it a few times and that's how I realized it was the problem....I would either have to do it with something more sturdier like metal, or thicker wood...but In my situation, I think I should just buy the 128" Antra pull down screen off eBay.... 120" too small and too many FL brightness, 135" Too big and would have to border off the rest screen otherwise the front speakers will be in the projection.

The wall I am projecting on is not perfectly flat, so I can't just buy a 120"+ fixed frame and hang it onto the wall perfectly flat. There is a 1/2 foot buldge of concrete around the first 3ft of the floor from concrete than the drywall. Theres also the issue of bringing the 120 fixed frame into the room....the current screen had to be built inside the projection room for it to fit in there..The screen material I bought off eBay is those 3 layer material black on the back...very strong, but hard to make perfectly flat, even if I were to staple the edges....I think my best option is to buy a pull down screen......how likely are waves to develop? and i would probrably the screen down 99% of the time as I would be using it frequently...or would it be better to roll it up all the time?
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post #1034 of 4922
1/5/13 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by socwrkr View Post

Cons:
I may be spoiled by my plasma (samsung 63c8000), but the blacks suck and are particularly noticable when watching movies that are not full screen.

Compared to a hi-end plasma I'm sure the blacks do suck. Your white ceiling and walls however certainly are not helping. Any light in the image will reflect off the surroundings right back on to the screen. This will wash out any black areas. You would be surprised how little reflected light it takes to destroy any vestige of black level. Even a JVC wouldn't do well in this environment.
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post #1035 of 4922
1/5/13 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Very nice.
Is your PJ mounted on the ceiling? If so, how tall is your ceiling?
Hi its mounted on the wall just below the ceiling. The ceiling is 8'
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post #1036 of 4922
1/5/13 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by safe bobo View Post

Could someone else take close up pics of some text against windows explorer? Is your text up close actually black? Up close it has some colors.

I wonder if lens zoom and lens shift position have any effect? Sometimes the extreme positions can cause problems like this. Worth trying anyway.
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post #1037 of 4922
1/5/13 at 1:05pm
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Hi its mounted on the wall just below the ceiling. The ceiling is 8'[/quote

Actually I miss spoke. The projector is ceiling mounted. The screen is wall mounted
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post #1038 of 4922
1/6/13 at 7:27am
I am replacing the Optoma HD66 (+ Monoprice 3d creator) because of dead pixels starting to show after 2 years. I bought the Epson 3020 at first but returned it because it had 1 dead pixel already when I first started it up. And right at that moment the buzz about the Benq w1070 started so I decided to wait for this one to become available in the US.

My setup
  • Denon DHT 591 BA Receiver with hdmi 1.4
  • No blu ray / 3d player
  • Xbox 360 + Windows Media Center to play movies, incl. 3d movies (mkv 1080p side-by-side)
  • Benq w1070 ceiling mounted on a 7 ft ceiling
  • Firmware 1.03
  • Xbox, cable box, dvd player go through receive via hdmi 1.4, receiver out is connected to the benq w1070 via hdmi 1.4
  • Fixed 106” Cinema White screen (Vapex)
  • Semi light controlled environment (basement), I can’t block all the light during daytime
  • Used for gaming (xbox), 2d and 3d movies and television (Comcast)

3d glasses, tested with Comcast 3d:
  • 1x 3DTV Corp DLP Link model D+D3G, 96/100/120/144 Hz – works fine
  • 1x 3DTV Corp DLP Link model ND2G, 120 Hz – works fine
  • 1x 3DTV Corp DLP Link model VA-DD1, 120 Hz – gives picture with flashes and flickering. Basically doesn’t work
  • 2x Optoma ZD101 - works fine

I played around for a bit with the w1070. I am planning to fine tune the settings with the help of a calibration dvd. But no time yet, so this first impression is of the picture right out of the box. I will post the settings when I had the time to run the calibration.
  • I had no problems mounting the projector on the ceiling and the vertical lens shift was a great help! I read complaints about the lens shift being very basic and hard to fine adjust, but I found it very easy to adjust the lens in a few seconds. It’s not automated, but still very easy and very helpful in my situation.
  • Picture looks very sharp, bright and great colors. Blacks look great to me also. I am not a specialist in this area, but it’s a big improvement over the Optoma HD66 in every aspect. But that could be expected of course, being a 1080 projector at 2x the cost of the HD66.
  • Fan noise is no issue for me. Xbox is noisier so it doesn’t bother me.

But I am having issues with 3d:
  • The 3d auto detect doesn’t work and I have to use the remote to manually set it to 3d whenever I play a 3d movie, that is, when the option is not greyed out.
  • Comcast, 1080i side-by-side works fine. I have to select side-by-side manually via the remote. It worked on the Optoma HD66 + Monoprice 3d creator and on the Epson 3020.
  • Comcast, 1080i top-bottom, doesn’t work. It is recognized as 3d, but I can only choose side-by-side and not top-bottom which is greyed out. Didn’t work on the Optoma HD66 + Monoprice 3d creator but did work on the Epson 3020.
  • Xbox, Windows MediaCenter, mkv files 1080p side-by-side. Doesn’t work. It’s not recognized as 3d and the 3d setting is grayed out and not available. It worked on the Optoma HD66 + Monoprice 3d creator. Not tested on the Epson 3020.

Anyone has any good suggestions about what is wrong with the 3d and how to solve this? I assume this should all works fine with this projector.

EDIT: I think I figured it out.
--> Comcast ESPN 3d --> I need to set the Comcast box to 720p instead of 1080i, then it works fine since top-and-bottom 720p is supported, top-and-bottom 1080i is not supported.
--> 1080p 24hz side-by-side is not a mandatory 3d format and is not supported by both the Benq w1070 and the Epson 3020. Since all my 3d movies are in this format, I need to convert them (anyone knows how?) or I need to go back to the Optoma HD66 + Monoprice 3d creator combination. But that is not a real good option.
Edited by albero67 - 1/6/13 at 3:04pm
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post #1039 of 4922
1/6/13 at 7:52am
What Blu-Ray player are you using for 3D? Is the player set for Auto?

How high is your ceiling? How far from the ceiling is the top of your screen? How far from the screen is the projector?
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post #1040 of 4922
1/6/13 at 8:04am
No blu ray (see post), playing 3d through Xbox and Comcast.
Ceiling is 7ft (see post).
Top of the screen to ceiling = 6"1/4
Projector is 9ft from the screen.
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post #1041 of 4922
1/6/13 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by socwrkr View Post

Here is a pic, i'm going to add them one at a time if i can as i'm having internet issues with my tethering..
any chances you can sharing some non CGI images? that would be better to judge the image quality
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post #1042 of 4922
1/6/13 at 8:23am
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any chances you can sharing some non CGI images? that would be better to judge the image quality


Better yet, post a checker board or the multi color test patterns on the test discs (free from the AVS HD 709 disc).
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post #1043 of 4922
1/6/13 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by albero67 View Post

No blu ray (see post), playing 3d through Xbox and Comcast.
Ceiling is 7ft (see post).
Top of the screen to ceiling = 6"1/4
Projector is 9ft from the screen.

Thanks, I think I have to get a longer mount since my screen is about 2 feet from the ceiling.
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post #1044 of 4922
1/6/13 at 10:26am
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any chances you can sharing some non CGI images? that would be better to judge the image quality

Screen shots are not a good way to judge image quality at all.
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post #1045 of 4922
1/6/13 at 12:33pm
Chromatic distortion on mine doesn't look bad.

I do notice a small annoyance though, that while this Benq supports 1-to-1 pixel timing from the PC (1920x1080@60Hz) , I cannot completely by-pass noise-reduction or sharpness. It affects the clarity of the PC desktop a bit.
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post #1046 of 4922
1/6/13 at 1:35pm
11315, 11032, 11212 These are the remote code that i have tried in my onkyo remote control to control benq 1070w projector but none of them is working. Nor does the learning part of the control is being red. Can any one help if you have the codes for benq?
My ipazzport remote did learn the benq remote but i need to incorporate benq controls in my onkyo to use macros.
The projector turns off my onkyo 818 receiver just fine but it doesnt turn on the receiver and nor does it turn on/off by the reciever's controls.
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post #1047 of 4922
1/6/13 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

Chromatic distortion on mine doesn't look bad.
I do notice a small annoyance though, that while this Benq supports 1-to-1 pixel timing from the PC (1920x1080@60Hz) , I cannot completely by-pass noise-reduction or sharpness. It affects the clarity of the PC desktop a bit.

I don't see anything in your pics.

Can you explain the pictures a bit? Thanks. smile.gif
Edited by Juan Samartegui - 1/6/13 at 3:45pm
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post #1048 of 4922
1/6/13 at 3:48pm

Some reviewer said that there was no neutral sharpness setting on the W7000 so that would explain.

Can you hear an audible pitch difference of spinning wheel between the cinema and dynamic modes? That would nail down whether they all run at 6X or if only dynamic does, like on the W7000.


Edited by leeperry - 1/6/13 at 4:54pm
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post #1049 of 4922
1/6/13 at 5:04pm
I'm a looser! I have opened up the Projector Reviews site about 10X today in eager anticipation of Art's promised review...no love yet.
You would think his review is going to be a surprise or something. Let see "Great to have a CMS at this price point. Calibrates nicely. Skin tones not absolute best, but pretty good. Yes, pretty good indeed." Then he will beat on the "entry level" black levels and comment that the projector is really meant for family rooms as an entertainment projector, not for a serious dedicated light controlled theater.
Hmmm....Looks like I just wrote the review for him in 3 minutes. What's taking so long Art? smile.gif
Edited by DavidK442 - 1/6/13 at 6:23pm
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1/6/13 at 5:12pm
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You would think his review is going to be a surprise or something. Let see "Great to have a CMS at this price point. Calibrates nicely. Skin tones not absolute best, but pretty good. Yes, pretty good indeed." Then he will beat on the "entry level" black levels.
Hmmm....Looks like I just wrote the review for him in 3 minutes. What's taking so long Art? smile.gif

I am anxiously waiting for the review too. biggrin.gif
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