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post #1351 of 4908
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

As the owner of a JVC RS45 and the W1070 I can report that the 1070 is great at this price. I have a bat cave and with a little tweaking (calibration) the picture will be better than nearly any movie theatre. The blacks will not rival the JVC but the 1070 has great color, exceptional brightness and good shadow detail. It is also wonderful for 3d use. (3D was the reason I purchased it because of the ghosting on the JVC.) To my surprise it surpasses anything I expected for it and I will probably use it for most casual viewing including sports and other sources. Since I have a dark room I am using the SmartEco mode and I have turned brilliant color off. I am also using the film setting with gamma set at 2.4. I calibrated using Chromapure with my DVDO-ISCAN DUO and the results were amazing. Most of you will not have this option but the great news is that this projector has the best color I have seen right out of the box. With a little tweaking one will be able to achieve excellent results as long as dark blacks are not the most important thing for you. The other nice thing is that because it is so bright one can use it in a room with some ambient light if that is necessary. I have owned many projectors in the past and I have never seen anything at this price point that is as good.

Could you please post your settings after calibration and the screen type you use? Even though this may not be a totally accurate way to customize one's picture my experience is that it puts the receiving new owner in close proximity to the right settings.
Edited by JackB - 1/17/13 at 7:26pm
post #1352 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Namlemez View Post

Without a ton of vertical shift you have to flip it upside down when by the ceiling to hit the right spot on the wall. Since the top of the projector isn't flat, you either need something to hold it to the ceiling (like a mount) or a fantastic asymmetric leveling system. smile.gif

Thanks for that I am still fairly new at all this, I will now have to rethink how I am will mount 2X projectors from the ceiling.

Cheers
post #1353 of 4908
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Originally Posted by sbv20j View Post

Thanks for that I am still fairly new at all this, I will now have to rethink how I am will mount 2X projectors from the ceiling.

Cheers

Because of the lens shift you need to place it upside down. For my GT750 I went to Home Depot and got some rubber corks to use as feet so I could rest te PJ upside down on them. It actually worked out very well for my situation. The focus was a pain to adjust though.
post #1354 of 4908
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

As the owner of a JVC RS45 and the W1070 I can report that the 1070 is great at this price. I have a bat cave and with a little tweaking (calibration) the picture will be better than nearly any movie theatre. The blacks will not rival the JVC but the 1070 has great color, exceptional brightness and good shadow detail. It is also wonderful for 3d use. (3D was the reason I purchased it because of the ghosting on the JVC.) To my surprise it surpasses anything I expected for it and I will probably use it for most casual viewing including sports and other sources. Since I have a dark room I am using the SmartEco mode and I have turned brilliant color off. I am also using the film setting with gamma set at 2.4. I calibrated using Chromapure with my DVDO-ISCAN DUO and the results were amazing. Most of you will not have this option but the great news is that this projector has the best color I have seen right out of the box. With a little tweaking one will be able to achieve excellent results as long as dark blacks are not the most important thing for you. The other nice thing is that because it is so bright one can use it in a room with some ambient light if that is necessary. I have owned many projectors in the past and I have never seen anything at this price point that is as good.
I'm jealous, I'm still waiting on it to drop to $850 or less to pair with my RS48
post #1355 of 4908
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Originally Posted by sbv20j View Post

Are there any Black ops II players that can give me some feed back on this projector,as this will be the main use I have in mind for it.
Is the contrast good enough where you can make out other players in dark areas in the distance with out any problems?
I currenty have an Epson TW9000 (Australian) which is excellent for movies but next to usless for online gaming with lag at around 80ms
I dragged out my old Sanyo Z5 which has zero lag but the contrast is useless for objects in the distanance unable to make out other players in the background in darker areas.
The Z5 also needs a new globe (2000hrs) which may be adding to its problems but its around $180 for a half decent copy lamp which I would rather put towards a another projector if I knowthe new projector is upto the task of FPS games I will then run dual projectors one for games one for movies

Cheers smile.gif

I play Black Ops 2. 3d and gaming was the reason I got this projector. I use a JVC HD250 for other viewing. I have no issues in dark areas spotting enemies. If you calibrate both your projector and your Black Ops 2 video settings I'm sure you will be more than happy with the Benq. One a side note, Black Ops 2 in 3D is very cool too.
post #1356 of 4908
Thanks Scotty thats what I have been waiting to hear, now I just need to decide if I wait a month and see if the price drops
post #1357 of 4908
So if ceiling mounted, upside down, the image offset is only 10% of image height? 5.2" for a 52" tall screen? Thanks.
post #1358 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

So if ceiling mounted, upside down, the image offset is only 10% of image height? 5.2" for a 52" tall screen? Thanks.

Ceiling mounting doesn't really have anything to do with it. If table mounted the lens shift is above the PJ if ceiling mounted te image is below the PJ. The offset will be the same. The max offset is 30% of half the image height. So with a 52" image height you could have an offset of about 7.8" ((52/2)*0.3). This is pretty accurate since I just mounted mine today.
post #1359 of 4908
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Originally Posted by scotty144 View Post

I play Black Ops 2. 3d and gaming was the reason I got this projector. I use a JVC HD250 for other viewing. I have no issues in dark areas spotting enemies. If you calibrate both your projector and your Black Ops 2 video settings I'm sure you will be more than happy with the Benq. One a side note, Black Ops 2 in 3D is very cool too.

Were you playing online? Any issues with lag? Thanks.
post #1360 of 4908
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Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post

Ceiling mounting doesn't really have anything to do with it. If table mounted the lens shift is above the PJ if ceiling mounted te image is below the PJ. The offset will be the same. The max offset is 30% of half the image height. So with a 52" image height you could have an offset of about 7.8" ((52/2)*0.3). This is pretty accurate since I just mounted mine today.

Thanks. Then why does Benq's website say the image offset is 110%?
post #1361 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Thanks. Then why does Benq's website say the image offset is 110%?
That's the default value. That doesn't take into account the lens shift which allows it to go from 110-130% +/- 5% per the manual

I just tried out night-time viewing and 3D in my new setup. The 3D is much smoother than my GT750 RF glasses. I got the Sainsonic 144hz glasses and they work well. Lost sync when I had my legs kicked up and reclined though. That was annoying. I'd recommend them though. I watched somef 3D Avatar, Tron, and 3Net on DirecTV with them. On 3D I would recommend lowering the Gamma to 1.6 or 1.8. Very bright 3D setup. Looks awesome!

LIGHT LEAKAGE. When action is on the screen the light leakage from the fan isn't a problem but on dark scenes, holy moley... Light leakage is pretty bad. Most of it shoots to the left of the screen. There is also minor light leakage from the circular gap around the lens that throws a faint halo on the ceiling in front of the projector.

Would you guys recommend getting some very low density sparse foam to allow ventilation but limit light leakage on this? Its not a deal breaker for me nor should it be for anyone considering this projector. This and the faint smell are my only complaints on this projector.
post #1362 of 4908
I dont know why the offset is the way it is. Is this PJ meant for putting on a coffee table only? Because if someone were to ceiling mount this with an average 8ft ceiling, and have the screen mounted in a good position, the PJ would be hanging like almost 1.5 - 2ft from the ceiling (about 6 ft from the ground). If I were to stand up from the couch, it would be in my face, and will look funny.

I really, really want this PJ, but I have a 106" screen, and want the screen to sit around 1.5 ft from the top of the screen to the ceiling. I would have to drop the w1070 about 1.5ft from the top of the ceiling, where it will stick out like a sore thumb. Am I getting this right? With the vertical offset, the top of the screen will be 2.5" below the lens? My mits hc4000 is 18" from lens to top of screen and that PJ is supposed to have very limited flexibility for placement, but the w1070 seems 10 times worse. What am I missing here? heres my summary

my room is 14ft long. Viewing distance is about 13ft.
- ceiling is 8ft
- screen is 106" and i would prefer to have the top of the screen be about 1.5ft from the ceiling.

can i make this work? Thanks in advance
post #1363 of 4908
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Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post

That's the default value. That doesn't take into account the lens shift which allows it to go from 110-130% +/- 5% per the manual

I just tried out night-time viewing and 3D in my new setup. The 3D is much smoother than my GT750 RF glasses. I got the Sainsonic 144hz glasses and they work well. Lost sync when I had my legs kicked up and reclined though. That was annoying. I'd recommend them though. I watched somef 3D Avatar, Tron, and 3Net on DirecTV with them. On 3D I would recommend lowering the Gamma to 1.6 or 1.8. Very bright 3D setup. Looks awesome!

LIGHT LEAKAGE. When action is on the screen the light leakage from the fan isn't a problem but on dark scenes, holy moley... Light leakage is pretty bad. Most of it shoots to the left of the screen. There is also minor light leakage from the circular gap around the lens that throws a faint halo on the ceiling in front of the projector.

Would you guys recommend getting some very low density sparse foam to allow ventilation but limit light leakage on this? Its not a deal breaker for me nor should it be for anyone considering this projector. This and the faint smell are my only complaints on this projector.

Is the light leakage on the screen or off to the side of it on the wall?When there is no image just a dark screen,is there any portion of the screen brighter than the other?
post #1364 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Singh007 View Post

I dont know why the offset is the way it is. Is this PJ meant for putting on a coffee table only? Because if someone were to ceiling mount this with an average 8ft ceiling, and have the screen mounted in a good position, the PJ would be hanging like almost 1.5 - 2ft from the ceiling (about 6 ft from the ground). If I were to stand up from the couch, it would be in my face, and will look funny.

I really, really want this PJ, but I have a 106" screen, and want the screen to sit around 1.5 ft from the top of the screen to the ceiling. I would have to drop the w1070 about 1.5ft from the top of the ceiling, where it will stick out like a sore thumb. Am I getting this right? With the vertical offset, the top of the screen will be 2.5" below the lens? My mits hc4000 is 18" from lens to top of screen and that PJ is supposed to have very limited flexibility for placement, but the w1070 seems 10 times worse. What am I missing here? heres my summary

my room is 14ft long. Viewing distance is about 13ft.
- ceiling is 8ft
- screen is 106" and i would prefer to have the top of the screen be about 1.5ft from the ceiling.

can i make this work? Thanks in advance

Using the lens shift I think you could place the projector at about 10" from the ceiling and have it project the image 1.5ft from the ceiling. Not sure If Im 100% correct but roughly based on my calculations thats what I came up with. Again Im a rookie at this so I could be very wrong, lol.

I used this calculator here below to see where the BenQ calculator places the projector from the ceiling and then deducted 7.8" for lens shift ability based on your 106" screen and got 10" roughly from the ceiling...

http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/
post #1365 of 4908
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post


If it was manufactured in Nov you probably have firmware 102 or 103. The Oct units have 102 the Dec 103. Firmware 104 was just released.

The flickering and fan issues were only on a few units.... .

??
If that was the case it would have meant random hardware issue (some units affected) rather then firmware glitch needing a global (expensive) fix.
post #1366 of 4908
Question for those with more experience with PJ's... Does using extreme ends of the zoom range result in any negative effects on the picture quality? I was thinking of zooming in all the way at 1.3x when I setup my PJ but I can easily avoid that too and just zoom 1.2x or 1.25x if there are negative effects on picture quality. I only ask because I vaguely remember reading something about this somewhere.
post #1367 of 4908
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

Could you please post your settings after calibration and the screen type you use? Even though this may not be a totally accurate way to customize one's picture my experience is that it puts the receiving new owner in close proximity to the right settings.

My settings would not help anyone since I used the Auto calibration feature of my Chromapure software calibrating it through the CMS of my IScan Duo. That being said the pre results were very good out of the box. I would suggest that you look at Art's Projectorreviews site for tweak suggestions. The settings also depend upon how much light you have in the room. I have calibrated for a totally dark room using Cinema mode with brilliant color off and with the gamma set to 2.4.
post #1368 of 4908
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Originally Posted by DaylightSM View Post

Were you playing online? Any issues with lag? Thanks.

I only play online. Playing on the Benq is way better than playing on the JVC which is +/- 3x the cost. IMO, lag is a non issue on the Benq.
post #1369 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Singh007 View Post

I dont know why the offset is the way it is. Is this PJ meant for putting on a coffee table only? Because if someone were to ceiling mount this with an average 8ft ceiling, and have the screen mounted in a good position, the PJ would be hanging like almost 1.5 - 2ft from the ceiling (about 6 ft from the ground). If I were to stand up from the couch, it would be in my face, and will look funny.

I really, really want this PJ, but I have a 106" screen, and want the screen to sit around 1.5 ft from the top of the screen to the ceiling. I would have to drop the w1070 about 1.5ft from the top of the ceiling, where it will stick out like a sore thumb. Am I getting this right? With the vertical offset, the top of the screen will be 2.5" below the lens? My mits hc4000 is 18" from lens to top of screen and that PJ is supposed to have very limited flexibility for placement, but the w1070 seems 10 times worse. What am I missing here? heres my summary

my room is 14ft long. Viewing distance is about 13ft.
- ceiling is 8ft
- screen is 106" and i would prefer to have the top of the screen be about 1.5ft from the ceiling.

can i make this work? Thanks in advance
Your screen height is 52" which would make your max offset roughly 7.8" with the lens shift in its max position ((52/2)*0.3). You could get your 106" image in the 8.5-9 foot throw range so if you were to stand up at your 13ft viewing distance your head would not get in the way of the image. If you want the screen to sit 18" from the ceiling you would need the center of the lens about 10-11" below the ceiling which isn't bad at all. A 7" drop ceiling mount would serve you well in your situation. You should go for it!

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Originally Posted by mommacux View Post



Is the light leakage on the screen or off to the side of it on the wall?When there is no image just a dark screen,is there any portion of the screen brighter than the other?
Light leakage is not on the screen at all. almost all to the left of the image. I'll try to take pics tonight of it.

Can anyone speak to the negative side effects of putting some very light, airy foam in front of the fan? I'm thinking of put something in front of the fan exhaust. I think the foam might melt if its too close though...

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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

Question for those with more experience with PJ's... Does using extreme ends of the zoom range result in any negative effects on the picture quality? I was thinking of zooming in all the way at 1.3x when I setup my PJ but I can easily avoid that too and just zoom 1.2x or 1.25x if there are negative effects on picture quality. I only ask because I vaguely remember reading something about this somewhere.

I use the max zoom on my setup with my W1070 and I do not see any negative effects. If it is a true optical zoom this should be the case with just about every projector with that feature. Digital zoom is a different story, obviously.
post #1370 of 4908
Can anyone else confirm that their W1070 has lots of light leakage? I'm starting to wonder is mine is worse than normal and if I should swap it out with a new one
post #1371 of 4908
There is a lot of light leakage On the w1070. This should not be a problem for most since it is on the side and not from the front. No reason to swap it out.
post #1372 of 4908
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

There is a lot of light leakage On the w1070. This should not be a problem for most since it is on the side and not from the front. No reason to swap it out.
Those are my thoughts as well but on a very dark scene it has been distracting for me. Image is still great though.
post #1373 of 4908
Here is a good image of what I:'m talking about... see the light hitting the side of the hush box? That's a bout 1/3 of the light. the other 2/3 is on the wall to the left. There is also slight leakage around the lens. As Rwestley pointed out, it does not hit the screen but it is something to consider. I've been researching a few options for a DIY fix. Long story short - there is so much going for this projector so you shouldn't let this keep you from getting it.

post #1374 of 4908
The smell is probably just the bulb burning off volatile compounds from manufacturing. It's only temporary. I had the same smell in when I replaced the bulb on my current PJ. I think it took a week to go away and I usually watch movies every couple of days.
post #1375 of 4908
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Originally Posted by Despoiler View Post

The smell is probably just the bulb burning off volatile compounds from manufacturing. It's only temporary. I had the same smell in when I replaced the bulb on my current PJ. I think it took a week to go away and I usually watch movies every couple of days.
Thanks. That is what I was hoping.
post #1376 of 4908
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Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post

Here is a good image of what I:'m talking about... see the light hitting the side of the hush box? That's a bout 1/3 of the light. the other 2/3 is on the wall to the left. There is also slight leakage around the lens. As Rwestley pointed out, it does not hit the screen but it is something to consider. I've been researching a few options for a DIY fix. Long story short - there is so much going for this projector so you shouldn't let this keep you from getting it.

Probably extend a hood to the sides and line the inside of the box with some good quality black velvet.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't have these options as my setup is for the PJ to be mount on a pole in mid-air. My walls are dark though but would need another solution.
post #1377 of 4908
Good news!

Newegg have lowered their prices on the W1070 from $1299 to $1199(Note their MSRP is $1699).). LOL

The price drop had begin


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post #1378 of 4908
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Originally Posted by tradewinds View Post

Probably extend a hood to the sides and line the inside of the box with some good quality black velvet.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't have these options as my setup is for the PJ to be mount on a pole in mid-air. My walls are dark though but would need another solution.
That's a good idea. I'm thinking of simply just moving the projector back in the box a couple of inches. My only concern with that is the bottom of the image hitting the bottom of the box.
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Good news!

Newegg have lowered their prices on the W1070 from $1299 to $1199(Note their MSRP is $1699).). LOL

The price drop had begin
The BenQ Store online has them for $1099 in stock right now with free FedEx ground shipping. I wish I would have taken that route. I doubt this project gets below $1000 for a couple of years due to already being a fantastic value at an $1100 price point. Hope I'm wrong though!
post #1379 of 4908
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Originally Posted by scottyroo View Post

That's a good idea. I'm thinking of simply just moving the projector back in the box a couple of inches. My only concern with that is the bottom of the image hitting the bottom of the box.
The BenQ Store online has them for $1099 in stock right now with free FedEx ground shipping. I wish I would have taken that route. I doubt this project gets below $1000 for a couple of years due to already being a fantastic value at an $1100 price point. Hope I'm wrong though!
it will drop in a couple of months, like all projectors.
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

it will drop in a couple of months, like all projectors.


I am with you.

At the very least, we should see some sales around Memorial and Indepence days. But that's another 5-6 months away.

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