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post #1621 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Singh007 View Post

To be honest, the colors and the sharpness and the rich image is so good that I didn't even assess the black levels.

Well said. I've only had a demo to play with for a few hrs. My unit (I hope) will arrive tomorrow. But when playing various Blu-ray movies to test the image quality, I was able to forgive "average" black level performance since the image was sooooooooooooo rich, colorful and SHARP. I've come from a couple of Epson's where sharpness isn't their strong-suit. I almost wept when seeing the image from this unit for the first time. One of the on-line reviews I read did suggest that that the black levels for this BenQ are better than my 3020 (which I returned in favor of the BenQ). And although I had a lot of issues with the optics of the projector I returned, I couldn't complain about the contrast ratio of the 3020.

With the street price of the W1070 under $900.00 in many cases, I can't see how the "buzz" about how well this unit performs - especially at its low price point can't have an effect on the competitions' sales. The advantage over the 3020 is that the pic quality is better (according to my taste - it's all subjective) than the 3020 which costs approx. 50% more than this unit . . . the BenQ is so small and convenient compared to larger more expensive entry level units - without giving up on image quality. BenQ has raised the bar on what you can get for approx. $1,000.00. If other makers follow suit, it will be interesting to see what happens next!

Ian
post #1622 of 4968
Mini-update : I'm had this projector almost two months now and not had a single problem with it. 372 hours on-time according to the menu. I've been trying to sell my plasma because it's collecting dust over there. Poor guy.

Gonna order some anamorphic prism lenses to experiment with that in a month or two. Everyone reading this thread should probably be convinced by now this is the sleeper hit of 2012/2013 in the budget arena. When I watch modern shows encoded at 720p with frame interpolation on via my PC, I'm in heaven. I wonder what the w1500 will be like. But I won't be buying another projector until 4k ones come out...I can only see the pixels when I stand very close to the wall, and even then...After reading the issues of the Epsons...I'm SO glad I bought this. Not...a....single....problem.
post #1623 of 4968
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Originally Posted by man4mopar View Post

It is HDMI 1.4a, but 1080p SBS is not supported at any frequency per the manual. It will do 1080 50i SBS and 1080 60i SBS. It will also do 1080P 24hz Top Bottom and Frame Packing. Here is a link to the manual that has all supported input signals, starting page 56. ftp://downloads.benq.net/user_manuals/projectors/english/projector_um_user_manual_20120830_133334w1070_w1080st_en.pdf

Yea, but has anyone actually tried it to confirm it's not simply a manual oversight?
post #1624 of 4968
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Originally Posted by matrix_dot_ca View Post

I just received mine today. I have not opened the box yet. I got the same version as yours "version 00- 101" Nov 2012. Does the unit itself had the old firmware or was it upgraded? I will prolly open mine when all the hardwares arrived.

The version on the box has nothing to do with the firmware on the unit. I am guessing that the Nov version has Firmware 103. The Oct build had 102. The Dec build has 103 or possibly 104. It is really easy to update the firmware with a serial null cable the problem is that Benq will not let the user do it. We should all call Benq and demand that they allow user upgrades.
post #1625 of 4968
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

Mini-update : I'm had this projector almost two months now and not had a single problem with it. 372 hours on-time according to the menu. I've been trying to sell my plasma because it's collecting dust over there. Poor guy.

Gonna order some anamorphic prism lenses to experiment with that in a month or two. Everyone reading this thread should probably be convinced by now this is the sleeper hit of 2012/2013 in the budget arena.

Thanks for posting this. As much as I love the images from this unit, the only thing to me that remains unknown is reliability. With my unit on its way from Best Buy, it's good to know that you've been giving the W1070 a good work out without issue! Aside from making pretty pictures, it sounds like it's a good little work horse too! I've always used my projectors for a movie once or twice a week - not wanting to put too much wear-and-tear on them.

Ian
post #1626 of 4968
Now in-stock from Amazon for $1099.
post #1627 of 4968
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Originally Posted by wildchild22 View Post

My 1070 when the shift is all the way to the top causes the zoom to move while focusing. I really do not care.

I dont get how I can even properly mount my PJ the way its acting. I basically have to mount it at the exact perfect spot, or it will not fill screen/not be sharp. When I focus, the whole picture zooms in and out like 3 inches +. Definitely a quality control issue. Gonna have to exchange it. Does anyone else have this problem?: when you focus, the PJ zooms a little in and out.
post #1628 of 4968
There is some confusion with Art's review of this PJ. Under "calibration" it says to adjust the RGB settings from the default of 50, to 51,50,49..and leave the offsets at 256.

However, on my PJ, the defaults are 95,93,93, and the offsets are all 256. When I turn the gains down to 50, 52, 49, the image gets very very dark. Why are my defaults at 93,95 etc.? What am I doing wrong here?
post #1629 of 4968
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Originally Posted by e8dingo View Post

Can anyone confirm that the w1070 will not play a 1080p SBS mkv file?

It will not play from my popcorn hour media player, but my Himedia player converts sbs to frame packing and works flawlessly with sbs files.
post #1630 of 4968
Any current W1070 owners running it with the Darbee? Sounds like the combo would be killer as far as sharpness is concerned?
post #1631 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Samfield View Post

Any current W1070 owners running it with the Darbee? Sounds like the combo would be killer as far as sharpness is concerned?

Perfect combo !

I've made some videos on my youtube channel with both the Darbee and benq w1070

=> http://www.youtube.com/user/Spartiate1208?feature=watch
post #1632 of 4968
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Originally Posted by e8dingo View Post

Can anyone confirm that the w1070 will not play a 1080p SBS mkv file?
The Benq W7000 doesn't do sbs at 1080p also. But when I had it, I played sbs with my AIOS HD Media Center and it upconverted it to 1080p with mkv files. Looked great also, just like the actual blu ray disc. I'm sure the W1070 will work the same. I'm using the Oppo 103 now and tried it also with my W7000, and it worked the same way.
post #1633 of 4968
You must set the source to 1080i on your pc or Blu-Ray player to 1080i or below to play SBS on the W1070. When it is set on auto or 1080P SBS will be grayed out.
post #1634 of 4968
quote name="e8dingo" url="/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000/1590#post_22875511"]Can anyone confirm that the w1070 will not play a 1080p SBS mkv file?[/quote]
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Originally Posted by accordex View Post

I'm starting to wonder as well... Its here sitting on the table but I have a ton of stuff to do preparing the room...could someone weigh in on this? Is this even a HDMI 1.4 PJ? My optoma 750 would play them no problem ...720p of course.. but it did work...keeping my fingers crossed this will
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Originally Posted by accordex View Post

I'm starting to wonder as well... Its here sitting on the table but I have a ton of stuff to do preparing the room...could someone weigh in on this? Is this even a HDMI 1.4 PJ? My optoma 750 would play them no problem ...720p of course.. but it did work...keeping my fingers crossed this will



I use the KDLinks HD700 mediaplayer via my receiver. It plays 1080p side-by-side mkv and isos without any problems on the w1070. The projector was not the problem for me. My problem was to get the files to play. And the KDLinks HD700 plays everything in all formats and all framerates. And it will convert if needed. Even 2d to 3d.
post #1635 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Spartiatefr View Post

Perfect combo !

I've made some videos on my youtube channel with both the Darbee and benq w1070

=> http://www.youtube.com/user/Spartiate1208?feature=watch

thanks alot

do you almost get the same result if you play with the projector sharpness !!!
is it really worth paying $320 with w1070 ??
Edited by yyy484 - 1/25/13 at 5:58am
post #1636 of 4968
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Originally Posted by yyy484 View Post

thanks alot

do you almost get the same result if you play with the projector sharpness !!!
is it really worth paying $320 with w1070 ??

Darbee works on luminance and contrasts and not directly on sharpness - making it complementary to other video post-processing technologies (here is a test where you can see the results of a darbee by passing your mouse on the screens : http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/353-Darbee-Darblet-DVP5000-2.html)

For me, it totally worths the 230€ i've paid for ^^
post #1637 of 4968
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Originally Posted by albero67 View Post

quote name="e8dingo" url="/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000/1590#post_22875511"]Can anyone confirm that the w1070 will not play a 1080p SBS mkv file?

I use the KDLinks HD700 mediaplayer via my receiver. It plays 1080p side-by-side mkv and isos without any problems on the w1070. The projector was not the problem for me. My problem was to get the files to play. And the KDLinks HD700 plays everything in all formats and all framerates. And it will convert if needed. Even 2d to 3d.

I am confused.
I thought Bluray 3D players sent the signal out as SBS full 1080 (3840x1080) at 24 (25?) fps ?
Am I wrong?
Does this projector support full 1920x1080 images for each left and right eye at 24fps or greater?

Thanks
post #1638 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Spartiatefr View Post

Darbee works on luminance and contrasts and not directly on sharpness - making it complementary to other video post-processing technologies (here is a test where you can see the results of a darbee by passing your mouse on the screens : http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/353-Darbee-Darblet-DVP5000-2.html)

For me, it totally worths the 230€ i've paid for ^^

thanks Spartiatefr smile.gif

it sounds a good deal ...
i will give it a shot with w1070 order .. next month
post #1639 of 4968
I have an 130" screen,my ceiling is 8' and throw distance is up to 17'.will this PJ work in my setup?
post #1640 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Nightingale View Post

Now in-stock from Amazon for $1099.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A2T6X0K?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&path=%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB00A2T6X0K&ref_=_pfhmd&useRedirectOnSuccess=1


Scrolls down toward the bottom of the page and click: "tell us about a lower price?"

Sometimes they price match their competitors.
post #1641 of 4968
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Originally Posted by Fripp View Post

Would like to replace my aging Epson with the W1700 but my room situation is unique and I don’t think the lens shift will be enough to work -- but I’m not sure my calculations are correct.

For my current setup, I have an 8ft ceiling with a 120in screen hung 4in from the ceiling (white of the screen starts at 6.5in from ceiling). In order to get that 120’ screen with the W1070 I would have to mount it to the bottom of a duct that runs across the center of the room. The duct is drops 1ft from the ceiling, so the center of the W170 lens would be about 9in LOWER than the top (white) part of the screen (if I can mount the projector flush against the bottom of the duct, without a celling mount. Which shouldn’t be a problem).

My (likely dubious) calculations tell me that, if mounted this way, with the lens shift at it most extreme position, the image will be ~9in from ceiling, just about exactly where I want it to be, but leaving 0 margin error.

Can anyone else confirm that with a 120in screen the W1070 (mounted upside down) can shift the projected image at least 9 inches higher than the center of the lens?

BIG thanks in advance!

Bumping this in the hope someone could answer.

Many thanks in advance...
post #1642 of 4968
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Originally Posted by TLJester View Post

I am confused.
I thought Bluray 3D players sent the signal out as SBS full 1080 (3840x1080) at 24 (25?) fps ?
Am I wrong?
Does this projector support full 1920x1080 images for each left and right eye at 24fps or greater?

Thanks

No 3D BluRay use what they call Page flipping, Frame packing or Sequential deppending what term they wish to use. Here is a good source explaining the different signals http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/3d-tv-formats.html 1080P SBS is not a mandatory signal of HDMI 1.4a .
post #1643 of 4968
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Originally Posted by TLJester View Post

I am confused.
I thought Bluray 3D players sent the signal out as SBS full 1080 (3840x1080) at 24 (25?) fps ?
Am I wrong?
Does this projector support full 1920x1080 images for each left and right eye at 24fps or greater?

Thanks

But the Blu Ray 3D images are full 1080p 24fps to each eye, just not in a side-by-side format.
post #1644 of 4968
Just ordered mine ProjectorPeople! It's amazing...they are sold out now. 20 more coming in (ETA unknown) and I was the 5th person to phone order today. Now, the waiting begins...no projector this weekend, I sent the viewsonic pro8200 back to amazon.
post #1645 of 4968
is this a shorter throw projector?
post #1646 of 4968
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

is this a shorter throw projector?
Yes
post #1647 of 4968
So guys...those of you that use this with a htpc. Do you just set your desktop resolution to 1080p 24 or 60 (which one?) Or do you switch it back and fourth to 24 while watching a movie?
post #1648 of 4968
You only need to switch it back and forth for gaming or 3D modes, otherwise just leave it at 24p.
24p will be better for movies and you might get away with it for casual gaming (like scenery type adventure games), but at 24hz games will have choppy motion, sometimes experience tearing, and other nasties.
I would switch it back and forth if it were me.
post #1649 of 4968
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Originally Posted by scotty144 View Post

It will not play from my popcorn hour media player, but my Himedia player converts sbs to frame packing and works flawlessly with sbs files.
Thanks for this...people saying it won't play them but if they use a 3d media player box it will... Well what is that box doing that the PC can't? Nothing right? Just have to use windvd/total media/ or other software that will convert it to frame packing...
Am I understanding that right?
post #1650 of 4968
Going by BenQ's calculator, for my desired setup and screen placement (100" screen in a 14ft room, 8ft ceilings) both the W1070 and W1080st would have to be either two feet off the ground or two feet down from ceiling (good thing I'm under 6ft tall!). Seems to be awkward to place unobtrusively either way. Have I missed something here, or is there another pj that would better suit my preferences (sub $2k, 1080p, 3d, short or shorter throw). I was ready to snap up one of these until I realized how low it'd hang.

How is everyone else placing this? (bigger room? higher ceiling?)
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