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post #1651 of 8451
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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

I see while I was typing my response Aaron replied in a similar way. I'd agree with all he had to say. It does sound like perhaps your measurements are slightly out. If the wall you're measuring from isn't totally straight and/or the screen isn't totally parallel to the projector and/or your measurements aren't totally spot on then you may well see some horizontal keystoning (6 or 7" does seem extreme though). Hope this helps smile.gif

This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.
post #1652 of 8451
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Originally Posted by AaronPSU79 View Post

How do you know you don't have keystone problems now? Have you checked? Rotate the projector until the image is where you want it, then check the image using some of the calibration features. If the image is stretched or skewed and you cannot compensate for it using the built in adjustments then you will have to reposition the projector. Typically yes, the projector will be in the center of the screen and perpendicular to it. How did you make sure you are in the exact center? Maybe your wall isn't straight and it threw your measurements off. Sometimes people just use a tape measure and more or less eyeball things and hope it's good enough.

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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

Mmmm, that's strange. I demo'd a w1070 and the centre of the lens was in line with the centre of the screen - the top and bottom of the projected image were both totally straight i.e. no sign of horizontal keystone. It's a longshot, but maybe your screen isn't totally parallel to the projector??

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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

I see while I was typing my response Aaron replied in a similar way. I'd agree with all he had to say. It does sound like perhaps your measurements are slightly out. If the wall you're measuring from isn't totally straight and/or the screen isn't totally parallel to the projector and/or your measurements aren't totally spot on then you may well see some horizontal keystoning (6 or 7" does seem extreme though). Hope this helps smile.gif

^^^ alrighty then it sounds like a plan. I will rotate the PJ and use the test screen pattern in the menu to see what happens. I basically used a tape measure and a laser to make sure i was in exact centre. Its very possible I got this whole thing wrong somehow...

Thanks for posting Aaron & macster. Will report back later today what happens with your guys suggestions.
post #1653 of 8451
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This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.

You might buy a carpenter's square of some sort, if you don't already have one, and line up a pocket laser pointer (or similar; maybe even a beamy flashlight will do) against the square, from the center position of the screen, against the wall the screen is mounted (assuming it's parallel to that wall; if not, adjust accordingly, maybe try to hold square and pointer against plane of screen), and find the spot on the back wall or ceiling that it points to.
post #1654 of 8451
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Originally Posted by TrickMcKaha View Post

With my different projector - applies to every 1080p projector - if you use PowerDvd 10 or greater, that media player switches your resolution for you. I keep my PC desktop running at 1080p 60 hz which is usually the "native"resolution for PC but whenever I play a movie, even a 3D movie, PowerDvd takes over and at most for a 3D movie I just have to click on that 3D icon and it takes care of the rest. It plays at 1080p 24fps. Once the movie is over, my desktop returns to the 1080p 60fps which is much better for mouse movement etc.

If you want to play a 3D video at 720p 60fps, then you would have to set your desktop to that first and then play the video in, say, stereoscopic player, but that is an advanced technique for 3D videos with fast motion, and would not be relevant to BlyRay playback.

If you use a different media player thanPowerDvd, then, we'll, I'm not sure. but for that one, you can keep your desktop to native mode, 1080p 60 and let it handle the switch to 24 fps for you.

I'm using splayer as my main media player...but I tried switching the desktop resolution to 24hz. Yes the mouse scrolling around looks very choppy....and when watching movies......I don't know...but if feels as though since it's running at 24hz the rainbow effect seems easier to notice....is that possible? Also, I don't see things running any smoother....more choppy/ Not much experience with this....


Oh, I dled that smoothvideo projector player thing....the video thing that does frame interpolation.....What's a really good and common video that I can use for reference to see it's doing more good than with just leaving it as a default......the w1070 already motion pretty good to me. Was I supposed to download the 32mb file or the smaller one?

I dled the bigger one and it asked me if I wanted to install like 5-6 different apps...I also chose to install reclock....then when I played a video off splayer it asked me if I wanted to play it with reclock.
post #1655 of 8451
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.

I am an engineer smile.gif If I were going to do it I would measure out a triangle. Let's say you have a 100" screen and you want to put your projector 12' from the screen. So if you imagine a triangle going from the lens horizontally to the middle of the screen to the side of the screen and back to the pj.

So you would take half the screen width and square it, then take the distance to the screen and square it. Add that together and take the square root. In this case lets say my screen is 87" wide, so it would be [(87/2)^2+144^2]^.5=150.4"

That number should be the horizontal distance from your lens to the edge of the screen. If your screen is below this you would have to project up to where the edge would be.

If it were off a quarter inch or something I wouldnt be too worried, but if it was like an inch out there's something wrong.
post #1656 of 8451
Looks like the W1070 made it to the top of the Projector Central's "Top-10" list for most popular:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-multimedia-projectors.htm

Not bad for a projector recently released.
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

Looks like the W1070 made it to the top of the Projector Central's "Top-10" list for most popular:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-multimedia-projectors.htm

Not bad for a projector recently released.


Note, street price is $899. Do not pay a penny more. wink.gif
post #1658 of 8451
Can any owner please confirm if this BenQ W1070 has access to a "service menu" like you do with BenQ W7000, where you can adjust the brightness all the way down (to almost completely dark/black)?

Or, in the normal user menu, when the brightness is set to 0, can it go really dark/black which you can barely see anything in a dark room?

I'm about to buy this projector for computer use, but most DLPs are just too bright for long period of use, so lots of brightness adjustment freedom is preferred.

Thanks.
Edited by evloier - 1/26/13 at 8:15pm
post #1659 of 8451
You can probrably turn down the brightness to 0 and it can be really dark.......theres an ISF menu.....which allows u access to all these little tweaks so it can be ISF calibrated.....Yah it's bright...but I'd say in a good way.
post #1660 of 8451
Hey, I was just reading back on one of the review of the w1070 posted a while back....and I went back to check the suggested calibration settings......I know that something here has been edited...It's different from before. Some text is missing and the calibration settings they suggest is a bit different too....
http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/calibration.php I have those calibrated settings saved on my user1 but I wouldn't want it to disappear.

I haven't tried this yet. http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq_w1070_3d_home_video_projector_review.htm?page=Performance But I will..
post #1661 of 8451
Thread Starter 
Try those settings :
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Originally Posted by worf 
Voici mes valeurs RVB calibrées

GR : 105
GV : 100
GB : 104
DR : 255
DV : 256
DB : 254

choix de gamma 2.2

luminosité : 48
contraste : 47
Brilliant color : off
Mode lampe bas

Sauvegarde dans le menu USER 2 sur base préset cinéma

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/topic-des-possesseurs-benq-w1070-reglages-calib-t36708-45.html

and the results are here :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/topic-des-possesseurs-benq-w1070-reglages-calib-t36708-60.html
post #1662 of 8451
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Originally Posted by safe bobo View Post

You can probrably turn down the brightness to 0 and it can be really dark.......theres an ISF menu.....which allows u access to all these little tweaks so it can be ISF calibrated.....Yah it's bright...but I'd say in a good way.

This does not work. The w1070 has no IRIS so it cannot do what the w7000 can do and darken the image with an IRIS. You will need an ND filter to do this.
post #1663 of 8451
I wonder why they won't make a setting to fine tune the lamp brightness. Why only high and low? Why not at least have 1-10?
Edited by johnsmith808 - 1/27/13 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

Don't know if this has been mentioned... w1070 now listed for preorder on the Fry's Electronics site... $999... would love to see this for a few hundred less in a weekly ad in time for March Madness biggrin.gif

edit: the w1080st is on there as well for $100 more

Any idea what the return policy is at Fry's? I wouldn't mind saving $50 over amazon if their an authorized reseller and have a decent return policy.
post #1665 of 8451
I was told at Fry's it's a 15% restocking fee. But I would double check with them just to my sure.
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

I was told at Fry's it's a 15% restocking fee. But I would double check with them just to my sure.

15 days, 15% unless defective. Strangely, everything I've returned to Fry's subject to a restocking fee has been defective... What are the odds wink.gif
post #1667 of 8451
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Originally Posted by sketch660 View Post

Any idea what the return policy is at Fry's? I wouldn't mind saving $50 over amazon if their an authorized reseller and have a decent return policy.

Just curious - why not buy at VA for 899?
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Just curious - why not buy at VA for 899?
I'm assuming waiting for one of the in-store specials that would beat va.
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I'm assuming waiting for one of the in-store specials that would beat va.


The poster wanted to buy from Frys for $999, while both ProjectorCentral and VisualApex has it for $899.
post #1670 of 8451
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

The poster wanted to buy from Frys for $999, while both ProjectorCentral and VisualApex has it for $899.
I'm at a loss then, 'cause its only preorder at Fry's now anyway.
post #1671 of 8451
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Originally Posted by AaronPSU79 View Post

I am an engineer smile.gif If I were going to do it I would measure out a triangle. Let's say you have a 100" screen and you want to put your projector 12' from the screen. So if you imagine a triangle going from the lens horizontally to the middle of the screen to the side of the screen and back to the pj.

So you would take half the screen width and square it, then take the distance to the screen and square it. Add that together and take the square root. In this case lets say my screen is 87" wide, so it would be [(87/2)^2+144^2]^.5=150.4"

That number should be the horizontal distance from your lens to the edge of the screen. If your screen is below this you would have to project up to where the edge would be.

If it were off a quarter inch or something I wouldnt be too worried, but if it was like an inch out there's something wrong.

Good idea. Now the problem is to measure the distance from the lens to the screen middle and the screen edge accurately. The distance it too large for a tape to give you an accurate reading. Perhaps one of those laser measurers the appraiser use for measuring rooms. Because it's at an angle will the laser projected to the edge of the screen bounce back to the laser or off into nothingness?
post #1672 of 8451
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

I'm at a loss then, 'cause its only preorder at Fry's now anyway.

I'm looking at preorder for the w1080st which isn't in stock anywhere until first week or so of February. If I was after the W1070, I would certainly go with VA. Fry's has it $50 less than Amazon but I'm not sure it would be worth it in case I have to return it as the fee would be 164.85. Could be an extra 114.85 (fee minus $50 savings) if something were to not work out.
post #1673 of 8451
If its all preorder at this point, I would think ordering straight from BenQ would get it to you the quickest.
post #1674 of 8451
I have a 40"x96" 2.40:1 scope screen and use the zoom method. The 16x9 size is 40"x71". Does anyone know if this projector will work in this setup? I don't know if this projector has enough zoom range. I'm looking to buy for use for 3D only.

Thanks,
Tom
post #1675 of 8451
Hey all,

Im having a ton of issues trying to get the projector to display the image correctly onto the screen. It appears Im having keystone issues of the very frustrating variety. I have stood up there with the PJ on a ladder for hours and hours trying to get it exactly in line with the screen to no avail.... WIth the limited tools and capability I have I just dont know what to do anymore.

I have attached some pictures below of what's going on. Any help whatsoever in getting this lined up would just be awesome. I Appreciate any of you taking the time to read this in advance and helping me out.

Pictures here:





post #1676 of 8451
TGT...I had the exact same issues with my pro8200. It was one of the reasons why I sent it back. My installers did the best they could but ultimately, it was the lack of lens shift that was causing me all of my problems. One thing I did not try was using a pole extension. Have you tried this? My w1070 will be here next week and I'm getting nervous looking at your pics because it's bringing back bad memories:( Also can you take a pic of your projector mount on the ceiling? My previous mount was also part of the problem.
Edited by JoeBoy73 - 1/27/13 at 8:29pm
post #1677 of 8451
Easy way to center your projector lens on ceiling relative to the screen:

1. Determine desired projection distance of your lens from screen using projector calculator.
2. Locate approximate mounting point on ceiling using projection distance measured from top center of your screen. You can use sidewall measurements to get an approximate screen center offset at the projection distance and mark on ceiling as the projection/lens point using pencil or tape. This is an approximate lens location since sidewalls may not be perpendicular to the screen wall.
3. Now use a tape measure and measure from top left corner of screen to marked projection point. Record this distance, while using the extended tape as a string radius to generate a circular arc while holding a pencil to scribe an arc of about 4 inches around the projection point.
4. Now place the tape at top right corner of screen and scribe another arc using the distance recorded in step 3. Where the arcs intersect is a point perpendicular to the screen and at the screen midway point. Just make sure that the arc intersection point is inside the lens focus distance for the projector.
5. If the projector lens is offset from the ceiling mount base, then offset the ceiling mount base by that offset distance to get the projector lens at the intersection of the two arcs.

Good luck!
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It will not play from my popcorn hour media player, but my Himedia player converts sbs to frame packing and works flawlessly with sbs files.
Thanks for this...people saying it won't play them but if they use a 3d media player box it will... Well what is that box doing that the PC can't? Nothing right? Just have to use windvd/total media/ or other software that will convert it to frame packing...
Am I understanding that right?

I tried a 3d SBS bluray rip tonight just to try out of curiosity (I buy all my Blurays, don't worry), and to get 1080p / SBS mkvs to play I had to run TMT 5 + set my videocard to 1080i output. Then the projector's 3D button worked and allowed me to set side-by-side. Jeez, it would be nice if their next one could..you know...auto detect side by side or frame packed or top down 3D content. I'm crossing my fingers that a firmware update might be able to do that. But I didn't like the quality of 1080i SBS rips compared to 24hz frame packed. Just looked choppy and not as good. And I'm a huge fan of smooth video.
post #1679 of 8451
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Mini-update : I'm had this projector almost two months now and not had a single problem with it. 372 hours on-time according to the menu. I've been trying to sell my plasma because it's collecting dust over there. Poor guy.

Gonna order some anamorphic prism lenses to experiment with that in a month or two. Everyone reading this thread should probably be convinced by now this is the sleeper hit of 2012/2013 in the budget arena.

Thanks for posting this. As much as I love the images from this unit, the only thing to me that remains unknown is reliability. With my unit on its way from Best Buy, it's good to know that you've been giving the W1070 a good work out without issue! Aside from making pretty pictures, it sounds like it's a good little work horse too! I've always used my projectors for a movie once or twice a week - not wanting to put too much wear-and-tear on them.

Ian

You're welcome, man this PJ is a real trooper. It only shut down from overheating once on me, and that was my fault for accidentally blocking one of the exhaust vents. But it handled it like a champ and waited till it was properly cool before even trying to turn back on. I figure if I got 400 hours in two months of super heavy + nonstop holiday usage, and 6000 hours is the lamp life of Smart Eco, I can assume that 30 months is a good time to buy another 200 dollar replacement bulb. This is the little projector that could. I'm glad about the performance, but REALLY glad about the reliability. I am using and abusing it daily and nightly. Can't wait to see what it looks like when I set it up with a proper screen and wide angle lens and get it calibrated and all that good stuff.
post #1680 of 8451
A projector that can do all this has been the dream of many in this forum for years since 3D came out (especially the sub 1.5k budget guys).
Truly an amazing projector at a great price...
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