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post #1681 of 4919
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Originally Posted by AaronPSU79 View Post

If I understand your problem correctly just rotate the body of the projector until the image is in the right place.

wont that make the image then uneven and create keystone problems? I thought the idea was to have the projector as straight on parallel as possible to the screen.

Still looking for a suggestion to my problem below if anyone can help, please...
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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

Im having a problem getting the projector centred to the screen after ceiling mounting it. I mounted it in the distance range recommended by many calculators online including BenQ's and others. But the image just wont match up horizontally regardless of how much I zoom in or out... what gives? This is my first projector so I may have mounted it incorrectly but as I understand it the centre of the lens of needs to be exactly at the centre of the screen horizontally, yes? So for example I have a 92" 16:9 screen which is basically 80" wide. So if I mount the projector where the centre of the lens is at 40" horizontally lined up with the screen I should have a perfectly centred image horizontally, yes?

Issue is Im out by a lot at the moment horizontally (like 6-7") and I dont think I mounted it that incorrectly... Perhaps its a setting in the PJ or something? I have it at auto aspect ratio.

When I move the projector lens about 6" left of the centre of the screen the image then seems to be correctly displaying at-least horizontally.... does that seem right? I thought the idea was to have the centre of the lens exactly centre with the screen to get the image correct horizontally...

Any help is appreciated...
post #1682 of 4919
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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

wont that make the image then uneven and create keystone problems? I thought the idea was to have the projector as straight on parallel as possible to the screen.

Still looking for a suggestion to my problem below if anyone can help, please...

How do you know you don't have keystone problems now? Have you checked? Rotate the projector until the image is where you want it, then check the image using some of the calibration features. If the image is stretched or skewed and you cannot compensate for it using the built in adjustments then you will have to reposition the projector. Typically yes, the projector will be in the center of the screen and perpendicular to it. How did you make sure you are in the exact center? Maybe your wall isn't straight and it threw your measurements off. Sometimes people just use a tape measure and more or less eyeball things and hope it's good enough.
post #1683 of 4919
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Originally Posted by Thunder_God_Thor View Post

wont that make the image then uneven and create keystone problems? I thought the idea was to have the projector as straight on parallel as possible to the screen.

Still looking for a suggestion to my problem below if anyone can help, please...

Mmmm, that's strange. I demo'd a w1070 and the centre of the lens was in line with the centre of the screen - the top and bottom of the projected image were both totally straight i.e. no sign of horizontal keystone. It's a longshot, but maybe your screen isn't totally parallel to the projector??
post #1684 of 4919
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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

Mmmm, that's strange. I demo'd a w1070 and the centre of the lens was in line with the centre of the screen - the top and bottom of the projected image were both totally straight i.e. no sign of horizontal keystone. It's a longshot, but maybe your screen isn't totally parallel to the projector??

I see while I was typing my response Aaron replied in a similar way. I'd agree with all he had to say. It does sound like perhaps your measurements are slightly out. If the wall you're measuring from isn't totally straight and/or the screen isn't totally parallel to the projector and/or your measurements aren't totally spot on then you may well see some horizontal keystoning (6 or 7" does seem extreme though). Hope this helps smile.gif
post #1685 of 4919
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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

I see while I was typing my response Aaron replied in a similar way. I'd agree with all he had to say. It does sound like perhaps your measurements are slightly out. If the wall you're measuring from isn't totally straight and/or the screen isn't totally parallel to the projector and/or your measurements aren't totally spot on then you may well see some horizontal keystoning (6 or 7" does seem extreme though). Hope this helps smile.gif

This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.
post #1686 of 4919
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Originally Posted by AaronPSU79 View Post

How do you know you don't have keystone problems now? Have you checked? Rotate the projector until the image is where you want it, then check the image using some of the calibration features. If the image is stretched or skewed and you cannot compensate for it using the built in adjustments then you will have to reposition the projector. Typically yes, the projector will be in the center of the screen and perpendicular to it. How did you make sure you are in the exact center? Maybe your wall isn't straight and it threw your measurements off. Sometimes people just use a tape measure and more or less eyeball things and hope it's good enough.

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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

Mmmm, that's strange. I demo'd a w1070 and the centre of the lens was in line with the centre of the screen - the top and bottom of the projected image were both totally straight i.e. no sign of horizontal keystone. It's a longshot, but maybe your screen isn't totally parallel to the projector??

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Originally Posted by macster2 View Post

I see while I was typing my response Aaron replied in a similar way. I'd agree with all he had to say. It does sound like perhaps your measurements are slightly out. If the wall you're measuring from isn't totally straight and/or the screen isn't totally parallel to the projector and/or your measurements aren't totally spot on then you may well see some horizontal keystoning (6 or 7" does seem extreme though). Hope this helps smile.gif

^^^ alrighty then it sounds like a plan. I will rotate the PJ and use the test screen pattern in the menu to see what happens. I basically used a tape measure and a laser to make sure i was in exact centre. Its very possible I got this whole thing wrong somehow...

Thanks for posting Aaron & macster. Will report back later today what happens with your guys suggestions.
post #1687 of 4919
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.

You might buy a carpenter's square of some sort, if you don't already have one, and line up a pocket laser pointer (or similar; maybe even a beamy flashlight will do) against the square, from the center position of the screen, against the wall the screen is mounted (assuming it's parallel to that wall; if not, adjust accordingly, maybe try to hold square and pointer against plane of screen), and find the spot on the back wall or ceiling that it points to.
post #1688 of 4919
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Originally Posted by TrickMcKaha View Post

With my different projector - applies to every 1080p projector - if you use PowerDvd 10 or greater, that media player switches your resolution for you. I keep my PC desktop running at 1080p 60 hz which is usually the "native"resolution for PC but whenever I play a movie, even a 3D movie, PowerDvd takes over and at most for a 3D movie I just have to click on that 3D icon and it takes care of the rest. It plays at 1080p 24fps. Once the movie is over, my desktop returns to the 1080p 60fps which is much better for mouse movement etc.

If you want to play a 3D video at 720p 60fps, then you would have to set your desktop to that first and then play the video in, say, stereoscopic player, but that is an advanced technique for 3D videos with fast motion, and would not be relevant to BlyRay playback.

If you use a different media player thanPowerDvd, then, we'll, I'm not sure. but for that one, you can keep your desktop to native mode, 1080p 60 and let it handle the switch to 24 fps for you.

I'm using splayer as my main media player...but I tried switching the desktop resolution to 24hz. Yes the mouse scrolling around looks very choppy....and when watching movies......I don't know...but if feels as though since it's running at 24hz the rainbow effect seems easier to notice....is that possible? Also, I don't see things running any smoother....more choppy/ Not much experience with this....


Oh, I dled that smoothvideo projector player thing....the video thing that does frame interpolation.....What's a really good and common video that I can use for reference to see it's doing more good than with just leaving it as a default......the w1070 already motion pretty good to me. Was I supposed to download the 32mb file or the smaller one?

I dled the bigger one and it asked me if I wanted to install like 5-6 different apps...I also chose to install reclock....then when I played a video off splayer it asked me if I wanted to play it with reclock.
post #1689 of 4919
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

This brings up an interesting point. For you engineers out there how would you apply geometry principles in a practical manner to determine the exact center. Because of crooked walls you can't always depend on measuring the distance from one of the sidewalls both at the screen location and the projector location.

I am an engineer smile.gif If I were going to do it I would measure out a triangle. Let's say you have a 100" screen and you want to put your projector 12' from the screen. So if you imagine a triangle going from the lens horizontally to the middle of the screen to the side of the screen and back to the pj.

So you would take half the screen width and square it, then take the distance to the screen and square it. Add that together and take the square root. In this case lets say my screen is 87" wide, so it would be [(87/2)^2+144^2]^.5=150.4"

That number should be the horizontal distance from your lens to the edge of the screen. If your screen is below this you would have to project up to where the edge would be.

If it were off a quarter inch or something I wouldnt be too worried, but if it was like an inch out there's something wrong.
post #1690 of 4919
Looks like the W1070 made it to the top of the Projector Central's "Top-10" list for most popular:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-multimedia-projectors.htm

Not bad for a projector recently released.
post #1691 of 4919
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Originally Posted by Nambit View Post

Looks like the W1070 made it to the top of the Projector Central's "Top-10" list for most popular:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-multimedia-projectors.htm

Not bad for a projector recently released.


Note, street price is $899. Do not pay a penny more. wink.gif
post #1692 of 4919
Can any owner please confirm if this BenQ W1070 has access to a "service menu" like you do with BenQ W7000, where you can adjust the brightness all the way down (to almost completely dark/black)?

Or, in the normal user menu, when the brightness is set to 0, can it go really dark/black which you can barely see anything in a dark room?

I'm about to buy this projector for computer use, but most DLPs are just too bright for long period of use, so lots of brightness adjustment freedom is preferred.

Thanks.
Edited by evloier - 1/26/13 at 8:15pm
post #1693 of 4919
You can probrably turn down the brightness to 0 and it can be really dark.......theres an ISF menu.....which allows u access to all these little tweaks so it can be ISF calibrated.....Yah it's bright...but I'd say in a good way.
post #1694 of 4919
Hey, I was just reading back on one of the review of the w1070 posted a while back....and I went back to check the suggested calibration settings......I know that something here has been edited...It's different from before. Some text is missing and the calibration settings they suggest is a bit different too....
http://www.projectorreviews.com/benq/w1070/calibration.php I have those calibrated settings saved on my user1 but I wouldn't want it to disappear.

I haven't tried this yet. http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq_w1070_3d_home_video_projector_review.htm?page=Performance But I will..
post #1695 of 4919
Thread Starter 
Try those settings :
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Originally Posted by worf 
Voici mes valeurs RVB calibrées

GR : 105
GV : 100
GB : 104
DR : 255
DV : 256
DB : 254

choix de gamma 2.2

luminosité : 48
contraste : 47
Brilliant color : off
Mode lampe bas

Sauvegarde dans le menu USER 2 sur base préset cinéma

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/topic-des-possesseurs-benq-w1070-reglages-calib-t36708-45.html

and the results are here :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/projecteurs-f2/topic-des-possesseurs-benq-w1070-reglages-calib-t36708-60.html
post #1696 of 4919
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Originally Posted by safe bobo View Post

You can probrably turn down the brightness to 0 and it can be really dark.......theres an ISF menu.....which allows u access to all these little tweaks so it can be ISF calibrated.....Yah it's bright...but I'd say in a good way.

This does not work. The w1070 has no IRIS so it cannot do what the w7000 can do and darken the image with an IRIS. You will need an ND filter to do this.
post #1697 of 4919
I wonder why they won't make a setting to fine tune the lamp brightness. Why only high and low? Why not at least have 1-10?
Edited by johnsmith808 - 1/27/13 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

Don't know if this has been mentioned... w1070 now listed for preorder on the Fry's Electronics site... $999... would love to see this for a few hundred less in a weekly ad in time for March Madness biggrin.gif

edit: the w1080st is on there as well for $100 more

Any idea what the return policy is at Fry's? I wouldn't mind saving $50 over amazon if their an authorized reseller and have a decent return policy.
post #1699 of 4919
I was told at Fry's it's a 15% restocking fee. But I would double check with them just to my sure.
post #1700 of 4919
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

I was told at Fry's it's a 15% restocking fee. But I would double check with them just to my sure.

15 days, 15% unless defective. Strangely, everything I've returned to Fry's subject to a restocking fee has been defective... What are the odds wink.gif
post #1701 of 4919
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Originally Posted by sketch660 View Post

Any idea what the return policy is at Fry's? I wouldn't mind saving $50 over amazon if their an authorized reseller and have a decent return policy.

Just curious - why not buy at VA for 899?
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Originally Posted by Solarbeat View Post

Just curious - why not buy at VA for 899?
I'm assuming waiting for one of the in-store specials that would beat va.
post #1703 of 4919
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

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I'm assuming waiting for one of the in-store specials that would beat va.


The poster wanted to buy from Frys for $999, while both ProjectorCentral and VisualApex has it for $899.
post #1704 of 4919
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

The poster wanted to buy from Frys for $999, while both ProjectorCentral and VisualApex has it for $899.
I'm at a loss then, 'cause its only preorder at Fry's now anyway.
post #1705 of 4919
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Originally Posted by AaronPSU79 View Post

I am an engineer smile.gif If I were going to do it I would measure out a triangle. Let's say you have a 100" screen and you want to put your projector 12' from the screen. So if you imagine a triangle going from the lens horizontally to the middle of the screen to the side of the screen and back to the pj.

So you would take half the screen width and square it, then take the distance to the screen and square it. Add that together and take the square root. In this case lets say my screen is 87" wide, so it would be [(87/2)^2+144^2]^.5=150.4"

That number should be the horizontal distance from your lens to the edge of the screen. If your screen is below this you would have to project up to where the edge would be.

If it were off a quarter inch or something I wouldnt be too worried, but if it was like an inch out there's something wrong.

Good idea. Now the problem is to measure the distance from the lens to the screen middle and the screen edge accurately. The distance it too large for a tape to give you an accurate reading. Perhaps one of those laser measurers the appraiser use for measuring rooms. Because it's at an angle will the laser projected to the edge of the screen bounce back to the laser or off into nothingness?
post #1706 of 4919
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Originally Posted by dougri View Post

I'm at a loss then, 'cause its only preorder at Fry's now anyway.

I'm looking at preorder for the w1080st which isn't in stock anywhere until first week or so of February. If I was after the W1070, I would certainly go with VA. Fry's has it $50 less than Amazon but I'm not sure it would be worth it in case I have to return it as the fee would be 164.85. Could be an extra 114.85 (fee minus $50 savings) if something were to not work out.
post #1707 of 4919
If its all preorder at this point, I would think ordering straight from BenQ would get it to you the quickest.
post #1708 of 4919
I have a 40"x96" 2.40:1 scope screen and use the zoom method. The 16x9 size is 40"x71". Does anyone know if this projector will work in this setup? I don't know if this projector has enough zoom range. I'm looking to buy for use for 3D only.

Thanks,
Tom
post #1709 of 4919
Hey all,

Im having a ton of issues trying to get the projector to display the image correctly onto the screen. It appears Im having keystone issues of the very frustrating variety. I have stood up there with the PJ on a ladder for hours and hours trying to get it exactly in line with the screen to no avail.... WIth the limited tools and capability I have I just dont know what to do anymore.

I have attached some pictures below of what's going on. Any help whatsoever in getting this lined up would just be awesome. I Appreciate any of you taking the time to read this in advance and helping me out.

Pictures here:





post #1710 of 4919
TGT...I had the exact same issues with my pro8200. It was one of the reasons why I sent it back. My installers did the best they could but ultimately, it was the lack of lens shift that was causing me all of my problems. One thing I did not try was using a pole extension. Have you tried this? My w1070 will be here next week and I'm getting nervous looking at your pics because it's bringing back bad memories:( Also can you take a pic of your projector mount on the ceiling? My previous mount was also part of the problem.
Edited by JoeBoy73 - 1/27/13 at 8:29pm
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