BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$ - Page 7

In the user manual, it says that the W1070 does 1080p @ 60Hz ... anyway hope to get it soon !

Wow, if true that is good news, but it's not what I understood from the youtube clip of the guy reviewing it. Anyway, maybe I misunderstood.

I'm a tinkerer so for sure I'll try to tweak the crap out this mofo. It's so fun thinking about my next horror film festival in here.

Might have to order some more speakers to make a proper 7.1 or 9.1 setup in here, finally.

ps I checked the reviews of other recent BenQ projectors, such as the w7000, and the input lag on that one is 35ms. If it's similar on the w1070, us gamers are in for a real treat! But the w7000 is nearly three times the price, so who knows. (Kaine?)
Edited by RLBURNSIDE - 11/23/12 at 9:09pm

I've got an old NEC LT240K projector with a 2X / 4 segments color wheel. No one has ever complained (granted, I never had many guests watching movies). The Epson 8350 has terrible lag for games and 3D is apparently much better with DLP. I also hate LCD screendoors so for me, it's DLP all the way.

My paypal was charged right away (got a notice from the credit card company notifying me of a transaction of more than X dollars). And yes, it's a deal that's hard to resist. I went for the 30 day free RMA (just another $15) in case it comes busted as well. Paid with a credit card that doubles the manufacturer's warranty as well. I'm sure that it will be miles ahead of my 10 years old NEC LT240K and the price really is hard to beat. I'm not expecting the perfect projector, I'd never pay for that anyways.

1080p @60Hz, 1080p 3D @ 24Hz. So no go for 1080p 3D gaming, you have to step down to 720p 3D @ 60Hz. I would definitely not pay 3-4k for the projectors that do 1080p 3D @ 60Hz so I can't really complain.


The only thing that worries me is the fan noise.

On a related note: any recommendations for 3D glasses and ceiling mount?

I'm already thinking about building an enclosure with extra fans and foam padding inside to mask the projector noise, if it bothers me.

I'm okay with 1080p@24 in 3D, but with NVIDIA 3d thingy from my PC, can I force games to use that? Not sure what I'll prefer, 720p/60hz/3d or 1080p/24hz/3d, but it should be fun to find out. Probably racing games the faster refresh, and strategy games or slow-moving horror games the higher res. For 850, I'm considering this a beater and not worrying too much about it. There's always something better around the horizon. Heck, I enjoyed my borrowed 4:3 crappy LCD projector someone lent me last summer while setting up a horror film festival, so I'm sure this will be quite a bit better.

Might be time to look into more couches for my loft! rubs hands together. mouhaha

Also, the french review mentions some type of anamorphic lens...do they screw directly in? Or are they held up in front of the projector, without actually touching it, like it appears the Panamorph one does. Time to start trolling ebay for deals on these...

Will this projector accept a 1280x720p@120hz signal for 3d?

I need this for something I was working on and I am hoping it will. I would hate to have to buy a 3d ready projector instead of this.

This projector looks interesting, will wait for input lag results and if there is a short throw version announced? Are there any short htrow 1080p projectors out there (not to derail thread).

Thanks,
ELmO

Hi,
I see why not.
I'm not clued up on projectors but i do know about 3d ect.

The acer h5360bd i have does 120hz 720p and i can use 3dvision glasses if i need allthough they need tobe upside down.
Or it can do 120hz 2d have have next to no blur, both pj's i have look completely different in 2d at 120hz compared to 60hz, smooth as butter.
If you look in the w1070 manual you will see 1280x720 120hz

For those that ordered, what screen are you thinking about pairing this with? I know the rooms make quite a bit of difference. Mine is going in the man cave with Dark Green (Green Monster green) walls, and off white ceiling. Dont think I will need high gain, although want to be able to see the appatizers during the Patriots games

Currently I am leaning towards a Jamestown or visual apex, 120" dont want to break the bank....

Any thoughts on if the highcontrast .8 gain screens will go well, or should I stick with matte 1.2s?

thanks in advance.

The w1080st is the short throw version. Here is a new review:

"W1080ST: the world’s first Full HD short throw video projector
As the world’s first Full HD short throw video projector, BenQ’s W1080ST creates a 65.7” image when positioned at a distance of just one meter, preventing image obstruction and shadows on the screen which is ideal in any situation, but particularly important when engaging in gaming."

I've got a cheapo 120" electric mustang from Costco. Matt white, 1.0 gain. Works fine with my current DLP so I'm sure it will be fine with the W1070. Previous screen was a DIY blackout cloth on a wood frame. Worked fine until I accidentally kicked a glass of wine in it and I could never clean it properly

This is the one I have been waiting for. I will wait until I see a few reviews on AVS. Then I'll grab this to pair up with the Darbee Darblet I am getting for Christmas. Can't wait for the BenQ 1080ST to hit the American market. Especially at $1299 or lower.

I plan on using my pristine white wall to start off with, but I'll probably buy a proper 2.35 or 2.4 screen at some point thereafter. Thinking of something acoustically transparent too, so I can stick my front 3 speakers behind it.

Seeing all these insane deals, I ordered about 300 bucks worth of gear from Parts Express, including some super long 3d-capable hdmi cables, 7 more speakers, extra wires and mounting screws...everything I need for a proper 9.1 surround sound / 3D movie setup.

Can't wait!

What kind of environment are you in that you need 2.3-2.4? Or are you using it mainly for 3D. I ask because as I said this is my first projector. I currently have two Sony SZRD projection TVs and this will replace one. I dont want to be totally disappointed with a dark image.....

Me neither, which is why I'm gonna take a look-see on my wall and find out what a cinemascope movie looks like zoomed in, imagining that I was using a fixed-height screen.

But I'm not entirely sure how 1080p 16:9 content is displayed on a constant height setup, is it squeezed electronically in the horizontal axis, so that optically it gets put back to the normal aspect ratio? Or do you really have to remove the lens each time. That would suck, and I imagine, cause a lot of annoyance. I have about 12-feet of width on this wall of my loft, and a very long throw distance. In my other area, I could probably get a screen the size of a small movie theater, but I want to see how bright the Benq really is before deciding how big a screen / how dim I can handle, especially with the 3d glasses on.

Very excited to see a shorter throw home theater projector. Certainly there are more than a handful of enthusiasts such as myself with limited throw distance wanting a giant image.
Unfortunately this isn't the projector for me but I'm hoping it sells so well that BenQ and other manufacturers are motivated to take short throw a bit more upscale.
Motorized zoom, focus and shift control, with a greater shift range to allow shelf mounting ... and while they are at it a lower home theater friendly noise spec.

Unfortunately the new review linked above is just a press release but I see that Projector Reviews has this model listed as "arrived and on deck" for testing. Will be interesting because Art typically crucifies anything with less than stellar black levels, which is likely where this projector will fall down, Darkchip 3 with bulb dimming or not.

RLBURNSIDE: The 2.34 to 16:9 constant height question has been explained multiple times in great detail elsewhere but if you want a quick description here you go. On a 2.34 format screen with 2.34 format material the "black bars" top and bottom are simply projected above and below the screen. If the wall is dark enough and the projector has good enough black levels you won't even see them. When regular 16:9 is projectored on the 2.34 format screen the image is shrunk down so that it fits vertically, leaving black bars on screen left and right. On a projector like the W1070 the zooming, lens shift and refocus would need to be done manually at the projector every time because it has no motorized controls. Some projectors (Panasonic & JVC) will do it for you.
As for anamorphic capability; even though this projector can manipulate the image to use an anamorphic lens the lens itself would be double the projector cost and the benefit over the zoom method has been debated.
Because a 16:9 image looks so small when shrunk to fit on a 2.34 screen I prefer a constant area screen which has a ratio somewhere between the two. Oops. Off track and on another topic that has been debated ad nauseum.
Edited by DavidK442 - 11/24/12 at 2:18pm

It's weird to see that W1080ST is more expensive than W1070 despite the fact that it doesn't have lens shift. Benq better improve the optics and electronics on the W1080ST to justify the higher price.

Maybe the short throw lens is quite expensive?

So what is the problem at 1080p and only 24fps? Blu-ray movies right? I see the manual says 1080i @ 60fps, which means 60 interlaced fields per second.

What happens if you feed it a 1080p 60 frame per second signal like from a camcorder? Oh, look the last line says 1080p 60fps, I didn't notice that earlier!

If we feed it a 3D side by side signal does it switch to interlaced?


Edited by tyee - 11/24/12 at 10:34pm

A French review translated to English....

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiovideohd.fr%2Ftests%2F344-Benq-W1070-0.html

Correct

Anyone have one yet? On paper it looks just as good as w7000 if not better (6x color wheel, better contrast ratio) for half the price. Is it true?

No frame interpolation/less vertical lens/no horizontal lens shift/less zoom/bigger offset/ no dynamic iris to name a few features that the W7000 has that the 1070 doesn't - i think theres a few more.

That said - for bang for buck - the 1070 will take some beating!

anyone see any accurate pricing on the bulbs? Saw one post on Linus's youtube review that said they cost as much as the projector. Doubt its accurate, but couldnt find any sites selling them in US dollars.

Sounds like FUD. The BenQ w7000 replacement lamp costs less than 300.

FYI NCIX just emailed me with confirmation of payment, so it's getting closer to shipping.

/Aside, does anyone know if you can call Fedex before the first delivery attempt and ask them to call your cellphone or give you a specific time of arrival? I work really close by to my home, and I missed a shipment from UPS today (Stargate Atlantis complete Bluray set, yesssss). UPS told me to just update the delivery address to my work address since their guys don't make phone calls. Is Fedex any better in this regard?
Edited by RLBURNSIDE - 11/26/12 at 9:55am

If you're anywhere close to their main hub, just have it "hold for pickup".

Ok, so no official price on the bulb, but I do agree probably BS, or FUD or whatever...

anyway, I didnt get any email about payment confirmation since the payment came out of paypal right away.

However, I am flying up to Toronto on business tomorrow morning for 2 days, am planning on stopping in the local ncix store and seeing whats in stock...

One other questions, doest seem like its worth it to get a multi format screen for this right? It looks like you would have to re-focus when changing formats and since thats done manually would be a PITA...

thoughts?

How does this PJ stack up in terms of its 2D performance against other sub $1k projectors like the HD20, Pro8200, etc? Especially in the black level department?

yes, but it looks like benq took out all the stuff people complain about (frame interpolation soap opera, noisy iris that shuts down so people turn it off anyway, 4x color wheel that produces RBE) and cut the cost way down while possibly improving the actual picture. It'll be frickin awesome if it's true. Art at projector reviews says he has one "on deck" for review, so hopefully some answers soon!

If it's bad don't mention it in this thread!