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Originally Posted by mekret View Post

A decent pair of glasses will get rid of the red tint. My D3s do.

D3s are BenQ glasses, correct?
post #1832 of 8445
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Originally Posted by cosmickc View Post

Got mine today. Just did a quick 3D test with a sony 3d blu-ray player. I don't have my 3d glasses yet but the projector detected the 3D signal. HOWEVER! When i went to play the movie in 3D, without glasses, the image had a nasty red tint. Is this normal when not using glasses? I tried it again and it did the same thing.

The red tint is how DLP-LINK syncing works. A red (or in some systems, white) frame is flashed on the screen, which is what syncs the glasses. The glasses are timed to block the red if they are working properly.
Edited by elmermccurdy - 1/31/13 at 8:18am
post #1833 of 8445
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Originally Posted by rgtaa View Post

Can you play Batman Dark Knight Rises on this PJ, how does the dark scenes look. Thanks
Sure...I will check this out for you tonight! You are a viewsonic pro8200 owner correct? I have been really able to to tell the difference between the two, just with the settings out of the box. I'm really looking forward to dialing in the user1 mode.
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I'm only projecting on a white wall, but Dark Knight Rises on my htpc looks great.
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Originally Posted by JoeBoy73 View Post

Sure...I will check this out for you tonight! You are a viewsonic pro8200 owner correct? I have been really able to to tell the difference between the two, just with the settings out of the box. I'm really looking forward to dialing in the user1 mode.

Well, it would help if you used the same blu ray movie and player you used with the pro8200. I had no problems with that movie on my pro8200, so I'm just trying to find out if it was your Blu ray player, that was the problem or something else. Use standard out of the box settings on the benq , since that is what you used with the pro8200, right? Thanks for testing.
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Does this pj run at 144hz 2d?
post #1837 of 8445
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Originally Posted by empinball View Post

Mine showed up today, things looked good for a couple of hours running until it shut down showing 2 red lights(temp) and no fan cycling.....

Update : 4 hours on this unit, 3 overheat/shutdowns mad.gif. Vapex game me some trouble shooting options to try tonight, if they don't work I'll be calling Benq first thing in the morning for an advanced replacement...hoping it makes it here by Saturday.
post #1838 of 8445
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

The red tint is how DLP-LINK syncing works. A red (or in some systems, white) frame is flashed on the screen, which is what syncs the glasses. The glasses are timed to block the red if they are working properly.

THANK YOU! That puts my mind at ease till I get my glasses!
post #1839 of 8445
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Originally Posted by empinball View Post

Mine showed up today, things looked good for a couple of hours running until it shut down showing 2 red lights(temp) and no fan cycling.....

What build/firmware version? Manufacturing date? Maybe the troubled units are all part of the same batch...
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Hi everyone!

Well, I just received my Benq W1070 today through Newegg. I got for $899 with a $50 gift card which should be arriving shortly.

I would advise to be careful when ordering from Newegg.

Newegg just shipped the unit in its original shipping box and slapped a shipping label on the outside of it. Such a bad idea since the original shipping box is not sturdy enough for shipping!! To make matters worse, the bottom of the box was wet and slightly mushy, but no holes through the box. This happened once before with Newegg and it's the last time I order from them. If they are too damn cheap to put an item in a box, then I'll just go elsewhere from now on!

I called Newegg right away and told them I was going to refuse it and that they should ship me another one overnight to replace this one.

The customer service agent asked me to open the box and inspect it. I did so. It looked ok, but I couldn't plug it in and try it until I got home.
He asked me to go home and try it. If it works, great! If not, then call tomorrow.

So I plugged it in and hooked it up to my PS3 by HDMI. Now the first thing I noticed is that the HDMI connection on back doesn't exactly have a snug fit.
There is little wiggle to it, enough to loose connection if played with.

The worse part is occasionally loosing the signal! When I load up a blu ray from the PS3 and the screen goes blank to load up the blu ray, the Benq then says that its lost the signal to the HDMI 1. It happens again when I stop it go to back to the PS3 menu. Yet, I get no problems with signal from playing a game on the PS3, only with DVD's or Blu-Ray movies. I then have to unplug and plug the HDMI back in for it to find a signal, which doesn't work sometimes. Can it be that when the PS3 is loading up the blu ray, it stops sending the Benq information temporarily and then it says it's lost connection?

Anyone else having this issue?

I did also notice some slight rainbow effect, but that might be because of my glasses which have a glare, but I am not sure.

Otherwise, I was playing the Avengers on Blu-ray and was quite impressed.

The outside of my box has a mfg. date of December 2012 and the rev. / Revision says 00-102. Can't find out where the firmware version is yet.

Any help or advise would be great since I am totally new at this.

Thanks!
Edited by nappers - 1/31/13 at 8:33pm
post #1841 of 8445
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I have had similar issues using a standard HTCP/HDMI cable from my Blu-Ray player. It has something with the HDMI handshake I spent about 15 minutes trying to fix it yesterday. I would suggest that you call Benq with the number provided and point this out. If enough people do this Benq can possibly improve this with the firmware. Having said this Benq is not alone. HDMI has been a problem since day one.

Did you ever find a solution to this? I am having this problem with my brand new unit that I just bought from Newegg (which I wouldn't recommend buying from).
post #1842 of 8445
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Originally Posted by nappers View Post

Newegg just shipped the unit in its original shipping box and slapped a shipping label on the outside of it. Such a bad idea since the original shipping box is not sturdy enough for shipping!! To make matters worse, the bottom of the box was wet and slightly mushy, but no holes through the box. This happened once before with Newegg and it's the last time I order from them. If they are too damn cheap to put an item in a box, then I'll just go elsewhere from now on!

That's how they're shipped from BenQ, too. Seems to be standard practice.
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So I plugged it in and hooked it up to my PS3 by HDMI. Now the first thing I noticed is that the HDMI connection on back doesn't exactly have a snug fit.
There is little wiggle to it, enough to loose connection if played with.

I noticed this on the unit I sent back, as well. HDMI 1 was pretty loose, because there was a little too much distance between the case and the board, so the cable wouldn't seat all the way. HDMI 2 seemed snug enough, though.

I didn't get to play with the projector enough before I sent it back to know whether it had the issue of losing the signal entirely, though there was a definite "hiccup" when the signal went from menu to movie. I'll note, though, that a similar thing happens on my old Samsung HD LCD TV. When going between menu and movie, the TV would flake out for a moment until it acquired the source again. I think it has something to do with changing modes. Never fully lost HDMI, but it was annoying. Sounds like a a similar thing.
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The outside of my box has a mfg. date of December 2012 and the rev. / Revision says 00-102. Can't find out where the firmware version is yet.

That's the same as mine. How long does your fan run on shutdown?
post #1843 of 8445
Just a quick question...when i get my 3d glasses, can i just simply stream any 3d content (youtube, 3d visoin etc) , from my laptop, and it will come as 3D? Do i need any special requirements on my laptop?
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So I am thinking about adding a w1070 as a gaming, general sports projector.

This will be the first projector I have that doesn't have a lot of placement flexibility and I am looking for some advice on setup. I have looked at the manual and calculators but they are only really an estimate.

My current setup is

114" Screen 6" from the ceiling.
JVC RS46 about 12'10" from the screen.

I don't want to mount the Benq in front of the JVC for obvious reasons, but I could build a platform right under it and set the Benq on that. From what I could calculate the Benq would need to be right around 12'5" for 114 in screen, but I don't understand the distance from the celing to lens that it needs to be, or what range I should say, because I believe the Benq does have vertical shift....

If I do order, I would need to place an order with a business that would take the projector back if it doesn't work in my setup. I hate to do that, but I feel that's the only way to know for sure.

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post #1845 of 8445
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

That's how they're shipped from BenQ, too. Seems to be standard practice.
I noticed this on the unit I sent back, as well. HDMI 1 was pretty loose, because there was a little too much distance between the case and the board, so the cable wouldn't seat all the way. HDMI 2 seemed snug enough, though.

I didn't get to play with the projector enough before I sent it back to know whether it had the issue of losing the signal entirely, though there was a definite "hiccup" when the signal went from menu to movie. I'll note, though, that a similar thing happens on my old Samsung HD LCD TV. When going between menu and movie, the TV would flake out for a moment until it acquired the source again. I think it has something to do with changing modes. Never fully lost HDMI, but it was annoying. Sounds like a a similar thing.
That's the same as mine. How long does your fan run on shutdown?

There was probably nothing wrong with the unit you sent back. HDMI switching does take some time to obtain the correct source especially if one is going through a receiver or a switch. This is because there must be handshakes between all components in the HDMI chain. The fan issue is the real problem with a few of the units.
post #1846 of 8445
Well I was about to get the Optoma HD33 but now after coming across this thread, I am sooo going to get this instead and put the saved money towards a nice screen ^_^
post #1847 of 8445
I had the Optoma hd33 for a little while. The Benq W1070 is better. The darkchip 3 really helps the contrast. The hd33 did have a nice frame creation mode but I think I'll prefer ether 144hz 3d playback more.
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How would you guys compare the black levels too... I had a sharp LCD it was one of the first 1080p tvs and the blacks look very gray. I'm just worried because I have gotten used to the black levels of my vt50 and ut50. I know the projector won't give out those black levels but decint black levels would be nice.
post #1849 of 8445
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

How would you guys compare the black levels too... I had a sharp LCD it was one of the first 1080p tvs and the blacks look very gray. I'm just worried because I have gotten used to the black levels of my vt50 and ut50. I know the projector won't give out those black levels but decint black levels would be nice.

You will not get the inky blacks that one can get from a high end JVC or Sony or even the new Epson LCD's but will get great color, sharpness and a very bright picture. The blacks are not bad and most people would be very happy with this projector and the black levels. I have both this and a JVC RS45 and I am even surprised how good this projector is. If you want to watch Batman or Harry Potter the blacks will be ok but for most other films the picture, sharpness, color, and brightness will probably make you happy.
post #1850 of 8445
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Originally Posted by empinball View Post

Update : 4 hours on this unit, 3 overheat/shutdowns mad.gif. Vapex game me some trouble shooting options to try tonight, if they don't work I'll be calling Benq first thing in the morning for an advanced replacement...hoping it makes it here by Saturday.

Just curious, are you running the projector in "High Altitude" mode when you encounter the overheat problem?
post #1851 of 8445
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

That's how they're shipped from BenQ, too. Seems to be standard practice.
I noticed this on the unit I sent back, as well. HDMI 1 was pretty loose, because there was a little too much distance between the case and the board, so the cable wouldn't seat all the way. HDMI 2 seemed snug enough, though.

I didn't get to play with the projector enough before I sent it back to know whether it had the issue of losing the signal entirely, though there was a definite "hiccup" when the signal went from menu to movie. I'll note, though, that a similar thing happens on my old Samsung HD LCD TV. When going between menu and movie, the TV would flake out for a moment until it acquired the source again. I think it has something to do with changing modes. Never fully lost HDMI, but it was annoying. Sounds like a a similar thing.
That's the same as mine. How long does your fan run on shutdown?

Wow, you sent yours back? How come? I was thinking of doing the same thing. Yes I did notice that HDMI slot 2 was slightly better than HDMI slot 1. Strange how that is and says it's not a good build to me.

Yes, when shutting down, it takes a bit for it to actually go off. I thought it was just a cooling down period of some kind. Is that a problem?

I wondering now if I should return this unit and get the Epson 3020 instead.
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Hey guys,

I've had my W1070 for a couple days and love it. I have 1.03 and have no fan issues. It runs after I shut it off like it's supposed to.

This is my first projector and I have a question for others that have this.

Is the color wheel (I am assuming it;s the color wheel) supposed to be loud when it ramps up? It sounds like a card in bicycle spokes going at high speed. I can hear it at about 12' from the projector with the sound turned relatively low on my sound system. It doesn't stay that loud, but when it does it's very noticeable. Is this normal?

When I have my sound system turned up, I don't hear it but I have to turn it up louder than I thought I would to drown it out.

I've never owned a DLP projector before so just wanted to make sure that I wasn't experiencing a problem with the unit.
post #1853 of 8445
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Originally Posted by tasburath View Post

Hey guys,

I've had my W1070 for a couple days and love it. I have 1.03 and have no fan issues. It runs after I shut it off like it's supposed to.

This is my first projector and I have a question for others that have this.

Is the color wheel (I am assuming it;s the color wheel) supposed to be loud when it ramps up? It sounds like a card in bicycle spokes going at high speed. I can hear it at about 12' from the projector with the sound turned relatively low on my sound system. It doesn't stay that loud, but when it does it's very noticeable. Is this normal?

When I have my sound system turned up, I don't hear it but I have to turn it up louder than I thought I would to drown it out.

I've never owned a DLP projector before so just wanted to make sure that I wasn't experiencing a problem with the unit.[/qu

One can often hear the color wheel but it should not sound like a card in a bicycle spokes going at high speed. I think something might be wrong if you can hear it from 12' from the projector and with the sound on. I would suggest that you call Benq and check with them.
post #1854 of 8445
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

There was probably nothing wrong with the unit you sent back. HDMI switching does take some time to obtain the correct source especially if one is going through a receiver or a switch. This is because there must be handshakes between all components in the HDMI chain. The fan issue is the real problem with a few of the units.

I sent it back because of the fan problem. I never had a problem with the HDMI switching -- I was just responding to Nappers's post.
post #1855 of 8445
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

For those who have used there w1070 for 3d if I was to go with a 84 inch 1.2 gain white screen in a light controlled room,with a cealing mount and the projector will be around 8 to 10 feet way. Will the 3d be bright? I have a panasonic vt50 65 inch and the 3d is ok but it could be brighter.

I'm sure the 3D will be bright as I've read this is one of the brighter projectors around in this price point! I am concerned about your setup though. You say the projector will be 8-10 feet away and you are striving for an 84" image. Benq has an image calculator if you go here: http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/ you can play with the numbers and see what you can get. At 10' away it projects a 120" image not including the zoom. I would play with it and make sure this projector will fit your setup smile.gif
Edited by FifteenElbows - 2/1/13 at 7:55am
post #1856 of 8445
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Originally Posted by nappers View Post

Wow, you sent yours back? How come? I was thinking of doing the same thing. Yes I did notice that HDMI slot 2 was slightly better than HDMI slot 1. Strange how that is and says it's not a good build to me.

Yes, when shutting down, it takes a bit for it to actually go off. I thought it was just a cooling down period of some kind. Is that a problem?

I wondering now if I should return this unit and get the Epson 3020 instead.

Nope, your fan is normal. It's supposed to run for awhile after shutting the lamp down. Mine didn't, which is why I sent it back.
post #1857 of 8445
Guys, what do you think, this PJ might need a few more months of TESTING BY THE GUYS THAT OWN IT, and getting feedback to Benq before this PJ is ready for prime time. You have no idea if you buy TODAY if you will get version 1.02, 1.03. 1.04 ( even the they say it's 1.04, people are saying it's not) , and who knows if more firmware will be coming out. I'm not coming down on Benq at all, this is new PJ, and for lots of models it takes a few months to get firmware that fixes the bugs.
Also, after all the excitement calms down, then , more problems will show up. Some will like it and some hate it, like all the other PJ's. smile.gif
If it was me, I would wait until the dust settles and most of the room says "they fixed all the bugs" and the room quiets down some, and then buy on a good sale, with stable firmware. Now if I could install the firmware by myself, and it was just firmware issue, then I could buy NOW, maybe.
It is an exciting PJ, 3D, lens shift, 2,000 lumens, etc for very attractive price. And thank you for beta testing it for the rest of us. Maybe by summer it will have less bugs crawling inside the firmware. Even hard to tell if you do send it back for firmware upgrade, if in one month, they have NEW firmware, and you have to send it in again. And all the problems with doing that, shipping , and mishandling,etc.
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rwestley

You quoted my post, but I don't see anything below it. Did you have some feedback?

Thanks
post #1859 of 8445
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Originally Posted by elmermccurdy View Post

I sent it back because of the fan problem. I never had a problem with the HDMI switching -- I was just responding to Nappers's post.

Sorry, I misread your post. You were right to send your unit back with the fan issue.
post #1860 of 8445
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Originally Posted by FifteenElbows View Post

I'm sure the 3D will be bright as I've read this is one of the brighter projectors around in this price point! I am concerned about your setup though. You say the projector will be 8-10 feet away and you are striving for an 84" image. Benq has an image calculator if you go here: http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/ you can play with the numbers and see what you can get. At 10' away it projects a 120" image not including the zoom. I would play with it and make sure this projector will fit your setup smile.gif

yes, I'm finding that I cannot get an image SMALL enough without incorporating a ceiling mount to position the PJ closer to the screen. I wasn't expecting these issues at ~10'.

My screen will be about about 10 1/2' from my back wall...where I'd have the shelf mounted. Is my understanding that the PJ to screen distance is calculated from the REAR of the PJ? That makes it more difficult still, if true.

I'm looking for an 82-84" screen and it's telling me I'd have to be 9' away. I REALLY would rather simply place a shelf back there than a mount...for cost, aesthetics and ease of portability when I want to watch a game or movie outside this summer.

And just so I understand: the PJ MUST be placed 2" above or below the screen?

Oh...AND I'll have to place it upside down on the shelve?

Wow, what a placement nightmare.

thanks

James
Edited by mastermaybe - 2/1/13 at 8:55am
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